joseph1013:
DON'T TRUST IGNORANCE

Some people say they believe in God because they don't know, without God, how the universe could exist. Or because they don't know how life could arise from non-life or how intelligence could exist without God.

These are people who admit ignorance leads them to God but these people cannot deny that one day we may find out how these things happened without God. These are people who base their lives on what they don't know instead of what they do know.

Some other people say they believe in God because they don't know, without God, how a sperm and an egg could create a human life or how love or morality could exist. Some even say they don't know how it could rain without God. These people also believe in God through ignorance. But, in this case, they base their lives on what they don't know but should know.

Here is my tip for both groups. Base your life on what you know, not on what you don't know. Don't build everything on a foundation of ignorance. You can't trust ignorance.

joseph1013:
ABOUT CHURCH TESTIMONIES
by Nkechi Bianze

So, this particular woman was finding it difficult to get pregnant or carry it to term when she does. After four years of marriage, she confided on my mum who then took her to a very good doctor.

It was observed that her PH level was not conducive enough for a baby (or something like that. Not sure but that was about how the doctor explained it to them in lay man's terms.)

She was placed on medication. Since that was the only medical reason she couldn't carry a pregnancy to term, she got pregnant shortly and had a baby about a year after she started her medication.

Her testimony: She went to Church to testify that after the "revival" of the last year when the pastor layed hands on her head, something told her to have sex with her husband, so she did and she got pregnant and carried it to term.

I also know of a woman who had her baby through IVF, but told everyone that she went to see TB Joshua, and she got pregnant and had her baby.

A family friend who had been denied UK visa more than three times came to me to make enquiries. I told him what he was doing wrong. We tidied up everything and he reapplied and got the visa.
He went to Church to testify that he planted a seed of faith in the life of the man of God asking God to give him a visa. So, after many refusals, he finally got his visa because the seed is now germinating.

Trust me guys, I have seen and heard too many testimonies from people who I know their stories, and some of whom I lived their stories with, but they come up later to give twisted testimonies to the glory of their pastors.

There was this time a church member who was helped by my Dad mentioned his name during a testimony. My pastor then announced that the man was giving glory to human, that all glory has to go to God. So, no matter the role any human must have played in whatever you are testifying about, that members shouldn't mention names to thank them during church testimonies.

False testimonies can also be DANGEROUS.

I remember a woman with a health condition was adviced by her doctor not to eat certain foods. She came to Church to testify that daddy in the Lord prayed for her, so she has been eating anything. But she was actually on medication.

Another person with similar health condition did exactly as she had testified, and it almost turned out fatal.

As a result of these and many more, whenever I hear a testimony, I assume it's half truth.

Some christians will come on this post in their stale line of defense like "miracles still happen. It's still a miracle because it was God that used the doctor and your mum to help the woman to conceive. God used the people in the IVF clinic. God used you to help that guy with his visa...."

But here is the problem.

One of the main purposes of testimonies is to bless people.

How do you bless people?

Mainly by the details of information in your testimony.

Do you know that there might be other people in the congregation with same problem you had who could do with the actual information in order to also help themselves too?

If you testify to taking olive oil instead of talking about the tablet prescribed by your doctor and dispensed by a Pharmacist, another woman with same fertility problem might start taking olive oil thinking she will get a solution.

If you don't tell them that you were missing out something vital in your visa applications hence the refusal, another person who has similar issues will go and sow seed faith thinking that will be the solution.

False testimonies are MISLEADING. They are wrong! Doing it in the Church does not make them any less evil than they are.

Stop it folks, just stop!

Even God will not be happy with you.

adepeter26:

Its been a while bro. Why not create thread so people will follow. Many reader don't fancy thread with too much pages

joseph1013:

Hey, howdy?

I was under the impression that people identify with this more than for me to create multiple threads.

Anyone here agree with adepeter?

hopefulLandlord:


I don't!

the thread is unique, if you were creating new threads you would've been trolled easily

joseph1013:
ABOUT CHURCH TESTIMONIES
by Nkechi Bianze

So, this particular woman was finding it difficult to get pregnant or carry it to term when she does. After four years of marriage, she confided on my mum who then took her to a very good doctor.

It was observed that her PH level was not conducive enough for a baby (or something like that. Not sure but that was about how the doctor explained it to them in lay man's terms.)

She was placed on medication. Since that was the only medical reason she couldn't carry a pregnancy to term, she got pregnant shortly and had a baby about a year after she started her medication.

Her testimony: She went to Church to testify that after the "revival" of the last year when the pastor layed hands on her head, something told her to have sex with her husband, so she did and she got pregnant and carried it to term.

I also know of a woman who had her baby through IVF, but told everyone that she went to see TB Joshua, and she got pregnant and had her baby.

A family friend who had been denied UK visa more than three times came to me to make enquiries. I told him what he was doing wrong. We tidied up everything and he reapplied and got the visa.
He went to Church to testify that he planted a seed of faith in the life of the man of God asking God to give him a visa. So, after many refusals, he finally got his visa because the seed is now germinating.

Trust me guys, I have seen and heard too many testimonies from people who I know their stories, and some of whom I lived their stories with, but they come up later to give twisted testimonies to the glory of their pastors.

There was this time a church member who was helped by my Dad mentioned his name during a testimony. My pastor then announced that the man was giving glory to human, that all glory has to go to God. So, no matter the role any human must have played in whatever you are testifying about, that members shouldn't mention names to thank them during church testimonies.

False testimonies can also be DANGEROUS.

I remember a woman with a health condition was adviced by her doctor not to eat certain foods. She came to Church to testify that daddy in the Lord prayed for her, so she has been eating anything. But she was actually on medication.

Another person with similar health condition did exactly as she had testified, and it almost turned out fatal.

As a result of these and many more, whenever I hear a testimony, I assume it's half truth.

Some christians will come on this post in their stale line of defense like "miracles still happen. It's still a miracle because it was God that used the doctor and your mum to help the woman to conceive. God used the people in the IVF clinic. God used you to help that guy with his visa...."

But here is the problem.

One of the main purposes of testimonies is to bless people.

How do you bless people?

Mainly by the details of information in your testimony.

Do you know that there might be other people in the congregation with same problem you had who could do with the actual information in order to also help themselves too?

If you testify to taking olive oil instead of talking about the tablet prescribed by your doctor and dispensed by a Pharmacist, another woman with same fertility problem might start taking olive oil thinking she will get a solution.

If you don't tell them that you were missing out something vital in your visa applications hence the refusal, another person who has similar issues will go and sow seed faith thinking that will be the solution.

False testimonies are MISLEADING. They are wrong! Doing it in the Church does not make them any less evil than they are.

Stop it folks, just stop!

Even God will not be happy with you.

adepeter26:
I was referring to this post of his

hopefulLandlord:


okay, fair enough

joseph1013:
Anodavinci Ebirim

It is okay to believe in some God. It is okay to have faith in fairies.

What isn't acceptable is to propagate your ignorance as fact.

You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own fact.

If you know nothing about evolution, read up!

If your argument against evolution by Natural selection and random mutation is discredited apologetic nonsense like the teleological argument, etc, I suggest you read up on more sound
arguments that will at least look reasonable!

Keep your faith and leave evolution alone. Evolution isn't why you can't offer a shred of evidence for your God, it isn't why your supposedly all powerful God wrote a book through men, and his book can't be interpreted appropriately, it isn't why he chose to be invisible!

There is probably no God!

Get on with life and spare us the inane bluster.

SimplySEA:


You sound like an educated illiterate. Have you tried to read up on the other side of evolution? Do you even know that their are unexplainable missing links in evolution? Is evolution a perfect explanation to the existence of the universe? Have you ever wondered where or how the universe began? No matter the theories proposed by Charles D., in evolution the changes must begin from an existing animal(something). In other words something must bring about something(the product of evolution per time). Nothing begins unless it is initiated.- Isaac Newton(1st Law). So I ask who initiated evolution? Or from what in particularly did evolution began? Charles D. couldn't explain this. I am sure you can't either.