Tarry:


Yes the explanation will be tenable. When my wife applied for a renewal sometime ago she included a letter of promotion which was back dated to before her previous application, she stated that she did not include the promotion in the previous application because she had not received the promotion letter by then though the promotion had been in effect before then and her renewal was approved.

Two different scenarios, Promotions can be back dated,from the date it was due and all arrears duly paid,things like that could be view as administrative lapses.....But like I said she has choices to choose from,but if I was her,I will include only my leave letter and letter of introduction to safe my self from any unnecessary explanation

BlackRevolution:
Hello everyone. I recently applied for UK visa to attend a conference as a guest speaker organized by the RMT (Rail Maritime and Transport Union, London). I was at the Tls on the 21st of July. The conference will be taking place on the 23rd of August. The organizers have indicated in the invitation letter that they will be taking care of my flight tickets, accomodation, meals etc. I will be staying for two weeks as suggested by the organizers. I submitted my mum's bank statement as am currently on my PhD. And also a copy of my admission letter was submitted. Now the organizers of the conference have asked if they should go on and pay for the flight tickets. Please can anyone share his/her thoughts on what should possibly be my reply to the organizers and also what are the chances I have for the visa to be ready prior 23rd August. Thanks.

My advise is tell the organizer to wait until you secure your visa!

feranmi84:
@Brightingsus :
@Tatpat
@Ekpotek
Thanks to you all. I must confess, I really appreciate!

In my previous application that was refused i chose No (I do not have family). Will you advice I stick to 'NO' in my next application?

My concern is that I had plans of staying in the hotel in my last application, but planning to stay with a cousin in the course of my next visit.

Must i give reasons for chosin to stay in the hotel in my previous application?

If 'Yes',
Please, biko, ejó... help with what to say if you were in this situation.
Thanks.

All you need to do is to address the issues for the refusal in your next application. If you have a family member with a legal status in the UK please go ahead and mention it. You do not need to visit or stay with your cousin.

ekpotek:


Yes. Your payslip shows that you earn a living and that your monthly salary as reflected in the payslip can been seen in your bank statement.

Thanks for your response.

ekpotek:


Every application is treated on its own merit. The OP has been denied a visa when she was unemployed. Trying to explained a backdated employment letter will only make matter worse. If she is now in employment, all she needs is an introduction letter from her employer backed up with payslips to reapply in 6 months time.

One thing you must understand is she is not forging the documents, that is the actual situation, and so she should just explain how it is, furthermore, your application must always be consistent with your previous application, last application she was jobless now she has a job and no letter of employment, it is a red flag and can cause doubt in her application.

The fact that she is truthful about her situation will actually be a plus. she is not stating that she started work earlier but that her employment letter was back dated. she should just explain why it was so. It will help her application to come out straight

Solatium:



Two different scenarios, Promotions can be back dated,from the date it was due and all arrears duly paid,things like that could be view as administrative lapses.....But like I said she has choices to choose from,but if I was her,I will include only my leave letter and letter of introduction to safe my self from any unnecessary explanation

What matters is the document was back dated and its not her making, she should just go ahead and explain, it will do more good than harm

feranmi84:
@Brightingsus :
@Tatpat
@Ekpotek
Thanks to you all. I must confess, I really appreciate!

In my previous application that was refused i chose No (I do not have family). Will you advice I stick to 'NO' in my next application?

My concern is that I had plans of staying in the hotel in my last application, but planning to stay with a cousin in the course of my next visit.

Must i give reasons for chosin to stay in the hotel in my previous application?

If 'Yes',
Please, biko, ejó... help with what to say if you were in this situation.
Thanks.

Circumstances always change, the issue is to have a reasonable explanation. You know why you did not plan to stay with your cousin the first time, may you do not have your cousin contact back then but let your explanation be reasonable. Having family there is a big plus because it gives more valid reason to embark on the trip, to visit family, just tourist visit without family usually requires that you are more financially comfortable, also having a host over there reduce the financial cost of the trip and makes it reasonably within your earning power in the estimation of the ECO

ekpotek:


The concept of family between the UK and Nigeria are different. The key issues is that UKVI want to know if an applicant has the potential to overstay if he/she have any family member in the UK? An overstayer is more likely to be housed by a family member including cousins for free of charge. Having a family member in the UK have its advantages and disadvantages. The advantages are free accommodation and feeding and less financial birden on the applicant. Disadvantages are potential refusal as ECO may be worried about overstaying.

Well, I guess so. Thanks for expounding.

Talking about family in the UK, what do you then have to say about my case? We inviting my mother inlaw to come visit us (wife and I) for 2 months as the application states. This is to provide emotional support to my wife as she gives birth. I have already sent forth my supporting documents to Nigeria. The application has my name as son inlaw and my wife's name as the daughter of the woman we are inviting for which I am the main sponsor; my wife would part sponsor.

Part of the documents I sent was my mortgage statement for the house. I partnered with my sister, also a citizen, to buy the house as my wife is only a year old in the UK and can't ordinarily be included on a mortgage. However the finances to purchase the house was generated between my wife and I only. The mortgage statement states my name and my sister's name. So I asked my sister to do a letter stating that she only teamed up with me for the purpose of the mortgage and she does not live with us which is true. I did not include my sister's name as family my mother inlaw has in the UK. Would you say my sister is family with my mother inlaw? There's no relationship. There wouldn't be inlaw directly attached to my sister here, but with me I am son inlaw. What do you have to say on this? Their TLS appointment is this week.

Brightingsus:


Well, I guess so. Thanks for expounding.

Talking about family in the UK, what do you then have to say about my case? We inviting my mother inlaw to come visit us (wife and I) for 2 months as the application states. This is to provide emotional support to my wife as she gives birth. I have already sent forth my supporting documents to Nigeria. The application has my name as son inlaw and my wife's name as the daughter of the woman we are inviting for which I am the main sponsor; my wife would part sponsor.

Part of the documents I sent was my mortgage statement for the house. I partnered with my sister, also a citizen, to buy the house as my wife is only a year old in the UK and can't ordinarily be included on a mortgage. However the finances to purchase the house was generated between my wife and I only. The mortgage statement states my name and my sister's name. So I asked my sister to do a letter stating that she only teamed up with me for the purpose of the mortgage and she does not live with us which is true. I did not include my sister's name as family my mother inlaw has in the UK. Would you say my sister is family with my mother inlaw? There's no relationship. There wouldn't be inlaw directly attached to my sister here, but with me I am son inlaw. What do you have to say on this? Their TLS appointment is this week.

If your mother in law knows your sister in person as someone living in the UK. Then it is reasonable she mention her as a family friend and provide information on (your sister). Since 2012 I have been using my sister husband parents who are UK citizens as family member that I know and stayed with in the UK and I have never had any problem. In 2015, I added my sister to family member list, when she had UK Permanent Residence. In 2017, I added my wife to the family member list, after she acquired her British passport. Your mother in law would be okay because the reasons for her visit is understandable. Just hope for the best.

ekpotek:


If your mother in law knows your sister in person as someone living in the UK. Then it is reasonable she mention her as a family friend and provide information on (your sister). Since 2012 I have been using my sister husband parents who are UK citizens as family member that I know and stayed with in the UK and I have never had any problem. In 2015, I added my sister to family member list, when she had UK Permanent Residence. In 2017, I added my wife to the family member list, after she acquired her British passport. Your mother in law would be okay because the reasons for her visit is understandable. Just hope for the best.

Ok, are you saying my mother inlaw lists my sister's name as her family in the UK under that section in the application form? Aaah, if I go by that I have a lot of family here ooo. My sister, my brother, myself ALL CITIZENS.. That would definitely be seen as my mother inlaw having plenty ties to the UK.

Mother inlaw does not communicate with my sister or brother. They only met on my wedding day in Nig and never again since then.

how much will be charged for the call. I mean calling UKVI

Brightingsus:


Ok, are you saying my mother inlaw lists my sister's name as her family in the UK under that section in the application form? Aaah, if I go by that I have a lot of family here ooo. My sister, my brother, myself ALL CITIZENS.. That would definitely be seen as my mother inlaw having plenty ties to the UK.

Mother inlaw does not communicate with my sister or brother. They only met on my wedding day in Nig and never again since then.

By virtue of having a daughter in the UK is already a plenty tie. In the past one can appeal a refusal of a family visit visa as UK take family life very seriously. They only refuse a family visitor if the applicant is unable to proof the relationship. In your case, your mother only need to proof the relationship with (daughter and son-in law). Other documentation are secondary. If she is refused, God forbid, it will be hinged on her unsubstantiated proofs of relationship and not necessarily her lack of home ties. My opinion.

ekpotek:


If your mother in law knows your sister in person as someone living in the UK. Then it is reasonable she mention her as a family friend and provide information on (your sister). Since 2012 I have been using my sister husband parents who are UK citizens as family member that I know and stayed with in the UK and I have never had any problem. In 2015, I added my sister to family member list, when she had UK Permanent Residence. In 2017, I added my wife to the family member list, after she acquired her British passport. Your mother in law would be okay because the reasons for her visit is understandable. Just hope for the best.

I am getting a clearer understanding of the family issue from you all.

@ekpotek since you did not add your sister as family earlier, did you give explanation when you added her in 2015 (i.e why you did not add her as family earlier.)

If No...

means i should just add my cousin as family in my next application without explanation for not adding him in my previous application.

ekpotek:


By virtue of having a daughter in the UK is already a plenty tie. In the past one can appeal a refusal of a family visit visa as UK take family life very seriously. They only refuse a family visitor if the applicant is unable to proof the relationship. In your case, your mother only need to proof the relationship with (daughter and son-in law). Other documentation are secondary. If she is refused, God forbid, it will be hinged on her unsubstantiated proofs of relationship and not necessarily her lack of home ties. My opinion.

I give it to you, your opinions have a very strong solid base. I remember a lady once shared on this forum the refusal letter of her mother inlaw's visit visa application. Her case is similar to mine, but according to the refusal letter they failed to include the proof of relationship between herself and her mother inlaw. Also on finances, they quoted the applicant had £278 in savings in her Nig account but the ECO said there was no evidence of the funds. So I reckon the mother inlaw's bank statement was missing.

In my case, for relationship proof; I have my marriage certificate which shows my wife's mother's name. I also have my wife's date of birth which shows my wife's mother's name. I also have money remittance receipt of sending money to my mother inlaw as well as call logs and a few pictures of myself, wife and mother inlaw together. These are on top of the other documents...

I applied for masters in 2010 through an agent in Lagos. Unfortunately, I never knew those agent gave me a fake statement of account after paying them 250k for them to fund my account. Been the first time applying for visa I was not aware of the process. My application was refused and was told will be refused for up to 10years. Along the line I was arrested and through that I was able to know that it was fake statement of account that was given to me. But the person was arrested and the police begged me to let go and forget about the account. The family begged me as well and I left everything to God to take control. Almost 7years now I have not tried to apply again at the UK embassy. My question is that, can I still apply now if I will be given or I should wait for that 10years? Pls I need your advice

kclub83:
I applied for masters in 2010 through an agent in Lagos. Unfortunately, I never knew those agent gave me a fake statement of account after paying them 250k for them to fund my account. Been the first time applying for visa I was not aware of the process. My application was refused and was told will be refused for up to 10years. Along the line I was arrested and through that I was able to know that it was fake statement of account that was given to me. But the person was arrested and the police begged me to let go and forget about the account. The family begged me as well and I left everything to God to take control. Almost 7years now I have not tried to apply again at the UK embassy. My question is that, can I still apply now if I will be given or I should wait for that 10years? Pls I need your advice

Wait till it is 10 years. Don't bother wasting your money

kclub83:
I applied for masters in 2010 through an agent in Lagos. Unfortunately, I never knew those agent gave me a fake statement of account after paying them 250k for them to fund my account. Been the first time applying for visa I was not aware of the process. My application was refused and was told will be refused for up to 10years. Along the line I was arrested and through that I was able to know that it was fake statement of account that was given to me. But the person was arrested and the police begged me to let go and forget about the account. The family begged me as well and I left everything to God to take control. Almost 7years now I have not tried to apply again at the UK embassy. My question is that, can I still apply now if I will be given or I should wait for that 10years? Pls I need your advice

Omo, this one no be God matter o. I mean, it's not to be treated less than it was. That man wouldn't have had only you as victim. Some people need to learn from experience. You for sue that man, as he gave you a bad record. Sue him for 5 Mil... my opinion

Anyway you would need to wait for the ban to be lifted naturally. UK immigration Law states you would refused if you present a falsified document even if it is WITHOUT YOUR KNOWLEDGE. So even if you apply now and try to explain that it's not your fault, it wouldn't make much difference.

McGibson:
how much will be charged for the call. I mean calling UKVI

Calling from naija or within the uk?

feranmi84:


I am getting a clearer understanding of the family issue from you all.

@ekpotek since you did not add your sister as family earlier, did you give explanation when you added her in 2015 (i.e why you did not add her as family earlier.)

If No...

means i should just add my cousin as family in my next application without explanation for not adding him in my previous application.

No I did not need to explain.

Brightingsus:


I give it to you, your opinions have a very strong solid base. I remember a lady once shared on this forum the refusal letter of her mother inlaw's visit visa application. Her case is similar to mine, but according to the refusal letter they failed to include the proof of relationship between herself and her mother inlaw. Also on finances, they quoted the applicant had £278 in savings in her Nig account but the ECO said there was no evidence of the funds. So I reckon the mother inlaw's bank statement was missing.

In my case, for relationship proof; I have my marriage certificate which shows my wife's mother's name. I also have my wife's date of birth which shows my wife's mother's name. I also have money remittance receipt of sending money to my mother inlaw as well as call logs and a few pictures of myself, wife and mother inlaw together. These are on top of the other documents...

Great. At the worst, the ECO may call you or wife to ask some questions.

I was refused a Uk Visa last Year December in the refusal letter to visit my wife
I have noticed you both are married but theres no evidence to prove your conversation either after or before marriage ..
you submitted a bank statement which was rescently loaded with a large sum of money before you applying
Pleasw that statement was my uncle statement to support me because i didnr have a bank statement at then

I want to apply again can i have someone different support me or i still have to you that same uncles statement and explain why it had that large amount the other time i was refused
Is it compulsory to use that same statement and explain ??

I was refused a Uk Visa last Year December in the refusal letter to visit my wife
I have noticed you both are married but theres no evidence to prove your conversation either after or before marriage ..
you submitted a bank statement which was rescently loaded with a large sum of money before you applying
Pleasw that statement was my uncle statement to support me because i didnr have a bank statement at then
They said i have no strong ties in my own country
I want to apply again can i have someone different support me or i still have to you that same uncles statement and explain why it had that large amount the other time i was refused
Is it compulsory to use that same statement and explain
What steps should i take when reapplying please

TatPat:

Calling from naija or within the uk?

both please Ekpotek

tozdi1990:
I was refused a Uk Visa last Year December in the refusal letter to visit my wife
I have noticed you both are married but theres no evidence to prove your conversation either after or before marriage ..
you submitted a bank statement which was rescently loaded with a large sum of money before you applying
Pleasw that statement was my uncle statement to support me because i didnr have a bank statement at then
They said i have no strong ties in my own country
I want to apply again can i have someone different support me or i still have to you that same uncles statement and explain why it had that large amount the other time i was refused
Is it compulsory to use that same statement and explain
What steps should i take when reapplying please

Not having a job in Nigeria and applying for a visit visa is a killer. A good job in Nigeria can be a good tie as it is what you would leave the UK for. Also other loopholes created doubts in the ECO's mind as to whether you were a genuine visitor.

When you applied last year, did your uncle provide a sponsorship letter stating he as supporting you and did he provide his biodata page?

Not providing evidence of communication with your wife was another killer. People could forge marriage certificate. People could even marry only for papers and cos they have no relationship their conversation might be minimal or infinitesimal.

It's not a must to use the same sponsor or bank statements, but you would do well to address the issues in the past refusal.

how much will UK Work Visa and Work Permit cost

Hello, brightingsus, I think I remember you from d uk spouse visa forum. We all went tru d stress in 2015.
Please can you give me a full detail of d supporting documents you sent from uk and the one your mum in law is going to add from her end in nigeria. We are inviting my mother in law also.

Then which type of visa will we pick when we want to do the online. I will be grateful if u can help. Thanks

Brightingsus:


Well, I guess so. Thanks for expounding.

Talking about family in the UK, what do you then have to say about my case? We inviting my mother inlaw to come visit us (wife and I) for 2 months as the application states. This is to provide emotional support to my wife as she gives birth. I have already sent forth my supporting documents to Nigeria. The application has my name as son inlaw and my wife's name as the daughter of the woman we are inviting for which I am the main sponsor; my wife would part sponsor.

Part of the documents I sent was my mortgage statement for the house. I partnered with my sister, also a citizen, to buy the house as my wife is only a year old in the UK and can't ordinarily be included on a mortgage. However the finances to purchase the house was generated between my wife and I only. The mortgage statement states my name and my sister's name. So I asked my sister to do a letter stating that she only teamed up with me for the purpose of the mortgage and she does not live with us which is true. I did not include my sister's name as family my mother inlaw has in the UK. Would you say my sister is family with my mother inlaw? There's no relationship. There wouldn't be inlaw directly attached to my sister here, but with me I am son inlaw. What do you have to say on this? Their TLS appointment is this week.

Any applicants in June still waiting for feedback?

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KemBee86:
Hello, brightingsus, I think I remember you from d uk spouse visa forum. We all went tru d stress in 2015.
Please can you give me a full detail of d supporting documents you sent from uk and the one your mum in law is going to add from her end in nigeria. We are inviting my mother in law also.

Then which type of visa will we pick when we want to do the online. I will be grateful if u can help. Thanks

Uk General tourist visa for 6 months...

Give me a general background to your quest... when are u applying and what would be the reason for the invitation?

jprince2:
Pls I have an issue. I have previously been issued with UK Tier 4 visa. I need to make a new application for a company-sponsored training, however I have forgotten the DoB I used for my parents and all efforts to trace the former application form have failed.
Any suggestions on what i should do pls?

Weren't your supporting documents returned to you? A copy of the original application form ought to have been returned likewise.

snappy411:
how much will UK Work Visa and Work Permit cost

Dependents on Visa Type
£1187 + Tier 2 You need a job already in the UK and will need certificate of sponsorship.
£900+ Tier 5 many categories you can explore
£984 + Tier 1 Exceptional Talent (Stage 1 and 2) (Have you schooled in the UK)

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