esthermichey:
OH! Thanks so much..I really appreciate! Tho, I cant be so daft to copy a letter word for word, i asked openly on this platform as I thought there's a format we are suppose to use, you know Italians and their things nau, so i will do as you already advised, thanks so much

esthermichey:
One more question plssss....Must i use my recent pay slip or and month and how many month copies should i attached?

ghostmist:
yes...6 months

ghostmist:
@ dejiconde... bro how far na? did you re-apply? sad to know they denied you initially.

dejiconde:
I didn't reapply bt have deferred my Rome Business sch admission till next yr march intake bt unisiena said I cant deffer DAT I should reapply next year January

dejiconde:
I didn't reapply bt have deferred my Rome Business sch admission till next yr march intake bt unisiena said I cant deffer DAT I should reapply next year January

Talented4real:

Sorry bro, what reason did they give for refusing you visa, i mean the consulate?

dejiconde:
they said insufficient documentation

Talented4real:


You should give it another try by reapplying, did you submit both original and photocopy of your docx and is your account statement bearing your parent surname?

dejiconde:
they said insufficient documentation

dejiconde:
they said insufficient documentation

Patechezz:


Did u apply for masters or undergraduate? And which school please

Dencotext:

We ate trying to know precisely some of the context insufficient documentation could be used. Because the statement is not revealing at all.

One theory is that either a vital document is missing but more likely the document presented is insufficient not because you didn't submit the right things, but itself is lacking vital proof or a supplementary proof.

For instance if proof of family income statement is OK but they could not ascertain the ID of the sponsor, or whether its a business or salary account.. in the last case payslips could strengthen the case. But as the list is endless so only the person who was denied the visa could proffer some explanations what they suspected led to the insufficient documentation!

dejiconde:
master degree unisiena

dejiconde:
ur second point might actually be d problem, my sponsor is a business man I actually submitted his business CAC. Wat other I.d do dey need?
Maybe wen next I apply around February next yr I will HV to submit his landed property and co.

dejiconde:
ur second point might actually be d problem, my sponsor is a business man I actually submitted his business CAC. Wat other I.d do dey need?
Maybe wen next I apply around February next yr I will HV to submit his landed property and co.

Talented4real:

Maybe it might be because the account statement is not yours or that of your parents

Patechezz:



OK thanks.. Is it required of you to write any entrance exam b4 you are admitted to do the masters I.e wen u get to Siena. And if yes did you submit a medical insurance?

Patechezz:



Insufficient documentation is not used for account statement... For those that didn't use their account or parents account (based on all the refusal I have seen) it was clearly stated that you were unable to provide sufficient proof of economic means...

Dencotext:

We ate trying to know precisely some of the context insufficient documentation could be used. Because the statement is not revealing at all.

One theory is that either a vital document is missing but more likely the document presented is insufficient not because you didn't submit the right things, but itself is lacking vital proof or a supplementary proof.

For instance if proof of family income statement is OK but they could not ascertain the ID of the sponsor, or whether its a business or salary account.. in the last case payslips could strengthen the case. But as the list is endless so only the person who was denied the visa could proffer some explanations what they suspected led to the insufficient documentation!

Dencotext:


Ok if I am acting as Andrea I will first of all want to know the relationship between you and this business man first... father, uncle, brother.... I will first check your birth certificate to see who is your father or mother there. If it does not correlate to this business man, then I will need vital proof of your relationship with the business man and will only accept strong brotherly proof... which is a little more difficult to establish with all certainty even if you have the same surname with them than a fatherly or motherly proof. So If I do not find strong family connection, even when you try, then i state "Insufficient Documentation"!... I am happy we all know the root cause now, and we will try to avoid it... I do not think you need land property or extra asset in this case but more about establishing a family connection matters most. Its even worst when you do not bear the same surname.

Patechezz:



OK thanks.. Is it required of you to write any entrance exam b4 you are admitted to do the masters I.e wen u get to Siena. And if yes did you submit a medical insurance?

Patechezz:




Yes true but I think it's a vital document that has been listed in d requisite document that is missing.. In d refusals I have seen it was clearly stated that "we repeal the obligation of explaining the reason for the denial" they quoted a law.. Also they usually write on grounds of safety and public order concerns that are usually involved in the issue of entry visa (except for visa application that fall into 22,24,26,27,28,e.t.c). I did some research and it's all pointing to that medical insurance except of course ur visa application falls into act 22,24,26,28 blarr blarr... So if they are not giving you a hint as to what document is missing then I believe it's becos it's a requisite document...

Patechezz:




Yes true but I think it's a vital document that has been listed in d requisite document that is missing.. In d refusals I have seen it was clearly stated that "we repeal the obligation of explaining the reason for the denial" they quoted a law.. Also they usually write on grounds of safety and public order concerns that are usually involved in the issue of entry visa (except for visa application that fall into 22,24,26,27,28,e.t.c). I did some research and it's all pointing to that medical insurance except of course ur visa application falls into act 22,24,26,28 blarr blarr... So if they are not giving you a hint as to what document is missing then I believe it's becos it's a requisite document...

Dencotext:


I do not think you understand our rational here... if a none family member person have accepted to sponsor you and their account statement is sufficient for your economic means of sustenance... and then you are denied visa stating "Insufficient Documentation" is different from "unable to provide sufficient proof of economic means". In this case it has been stated clearly that you were unable to provide sufficient proof of economic means... why remind us of something that is so clearly stated?

So please explain to us what is "Insufficient Documentation" in all ramifications of our context "Italian student visa"? I do not want further confusion as we are trying to resolve this...

dejiconde:
hmmm could it be medical insurance? Cuz I HV som1 given visa without medical insurance insurance

Talented4real:

Maybe it might be because the account statement is not yours or that of your parents

dejiconde:
master degree unisiena

Patechezz:



Guy easy!!! Am also interested in finding out what it actually means.. My friend who I followed to vfs used his mums account of over 40million naira.. He provided proof by submitting her bio data and other employment related things.. But yet insufficient documentation was his only reason for a denial... There's another girl who did not use her parents account (11m) she was refused too but for two reasons.. Insufficient documentation and unable to provided sufficient proof of economic means

Patechezz:




Which course did u apply for please?