JackBizzle:


What stops you from lying twice?

Butterflylying!

Unlike you who has been monotonously dumb I never even lied once.

JackBizzle:


What stops you from lying twice?

Butterflylying!

He said he has Hausa people LIVING around his pig farm. Can you imagine! Hausa people that consider sighting pigs as haram. Butterflyliar.

butterflyl1on:


Chai. Dala the Gala I am sure you would like a description of the location of my piggery and also the location of the Fulanis around me to understand that around does not mean right next door and neighbour does not mean right next door.

Did I ever say they come around my piggery?

Ogbeni if you like believe if you like continue ranting liar liar. I have told you the reality. You can believe your own comments for both of us

So your neighbours live far from your pig farm?

So how are they neighbours? Or do you travel to their house just to argue?


Lying liar. Butterflylying

dalaman:


He said he has Hausa people LIVING around his pig farm. Can you imagine! Hausa people that consider sighting pigs as haram. Butterflyliar.

He forgot that he told people he had a pig farm. He didnt spin his lie well. See how he is now scrambling to defend it.

dalaman:


The law that has protected many people that were killed on religious grounds is where?

The law that protects christians who are trying to build their churches in many parts of the north is where? Same goes for the muslims that can't erect their mosques in many parts of the south.

this is what Nigeria constitution says...under the law you are protected....

Section 38 (1) of the 1999 constitution and Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Right, provide:“Every person shall be entitled to freedom of thought, conscience and religion, including freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom (either alone or in community with others, and in public or private






You can defend yourself if issues arises..

butterflyl1on:


Chai. Dala the Gala I am sure you would like a description of the location of my piggery and also the location of the Fulanis around me to understand that around does not mean right next door and neighbour does not mean right next door.

Did I ever say they come around my piggery?

Ogbeni if you like believe if you like continue ranting liar liar. I have told you the reality. You can believe your own comments for both of us

Shut up liar. You said they are your neighbors and live around, only for you to try to change the meaning of neighbors and around to means something else.

Northern muslims do not stay close to pigs at all. One of the strategy adopted by some of the christian minority tribes in the North Central states during their endless crisis with the Fulanis was to release their pigs on their lands. Once the Fulanis see their pigs move away, they do not allow their cows to graze on the lands, in fact they leave the area competely because to them it has been solied and it worked in many cases. They minority tribes pushed the Fulanis further into the bush with that strategy and that made their cows to stop eating their crops which always lead to clashes.

Keep telling your usual lies. We are being entertained by it.

JackBizzle:


He forgot that he told people he had a pig farm. He didnt spin his lie well. See how he is now scrambling to defend it.

He is now scrambling to change the meaning of around and neighbour to mean what his lying brain wants it to mean.

Butterflyliar.

JackBizzle:





So your neighbours live far from your pig farm?

So how are they neighbours? Or do you travel to their house just to argue?


Lying liar. Butterflylying

When I call you jumbo dumbo you start convulsing



neighbour
noun
a person living next door to or very near to the speaker or person referred to

Would you consider a radius of 1000 to 800 meters not very near in a bush setting where my piggery is located? Or do you think my piggery is in the city?

Na Bush my biz dey and these my Fulani bro dem camp around a lot whenever they pass by. It's always the same set who goes and comes. Or you thought when I say live I meant actual residential buildings?

No wonder you are still a dumbo

vaxx:
this is what Nigeria constitution says...under the law you are protected....

Section 38 (1) of the 1999 constitution and Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Right, provide:“Every person shall be entitled to freedom of thought, conscience and religion, including freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom (either alone or in community with others, and in public or private






You can defend yourself if issues arises..

Constitution and reality are very different things my brother.

dalaman:


Constitution and reality are very different things my brother.

I agree with you...but your right is protected under the law that is what am letting you to know.... I know society may not accept you.... Becuse atheism idea is strange in Africa....read this meme

butterflyl1on:



When I call you jumbo dumbo you start convulsing



neighbour
noun
a person living next door to or very near to the speaker or person referred to

Would you consider a radius of 1000 to 800 meters not very near in a bush setting where my piggery is located? Or do you think my piggery is in the city?

Na Bush my biz dey and these my Fulani bro dem camp around a lot whenever they pass by. It's always the same set who goes and comes. Or you thought when I say live I meant actual residential buildings?

No wonder you are still a dumbo

I smell lies

JackBizzle:




I smell lies

Of course when exposed you switch to the liar rant again.

I have also mentioned here with my butterflylion moniker that my farm is in the bush and I remember telling someone that I would now be looking out for evolutionary relics so I can claim a reward based on a certain thread by Felixomor .

If I had not also said this back then, you can then say I lied when I said my piggery is in the bush.

The path that leads to my farm is a heavy grazing zone for their cattle and we have become very familiar with ourselves as I pass and return. I sit and chat a lot with them. They are very friendly if you know how to approach them.

From the road to my farm is too far to walk so I have a bike aka okada I use. I have a farm hand who lives on site (a villager). My farm is fully fenced so nobody comes in and no pig goes out unless when conveyed out or killed and its body parts conveyed to the market.

butterflyl1on:




Of course when exposed you switch to the liar rant again.

I have also mentioned here with my butterflylion moniker that my farm is in the bush and I remember telling someone that I would now be looking out for evolutionary relics so I can claim a reward based on a certain thread by Felixomor .

If I had not also said this back then, you can then say I lied when I said my piggery is in the bush.

The path that leads to my farm is a heavy grazing zone for their cattle and we have become very familiar with ourselves as I pass and return. I sit and chat a lot with them. They are very friendly if you know how to approach them.

From the road to my farm is too far to walk so I have a bike aka okada I use. I have a farm hand who lives on site (a villager). My farm is fully fenced so nobody comes in and no pig goes out unless when conveyed out or killed and its body parts conveyed to the market.

why are you trying to prove yourself. It is okk.... Don't you see they are cashing fun....they know you are right.... Trust me jackblise and dalama are your best friend .....try to observe it.....

vaxx:
why are you trying to prove yourself. It is okk.... Don't you see they are cashing fun....they know you are right.... Trust me jackblise and dalama are your best friend .....try to observe it.....

Don't mind those two knuckleheads they just love arguing over everything including ones personal life and convince themselves that they know your personal life better than you do.

Awon oloriburuku somborri

butterflyl1on:



When I call you jumbo dumbo you start convulsing



neighbour
noun
a person living next door to or very near to the speaker or person referred to

Would you consider a radius of 1000 to 800 meters not very near in a bush setting where my piggery is located? Or do you think my piggery is in the city?

Na Bush my biz dey and these my Fulani bro dem camp around a lot whenever they pass by. It's always the same set who goes and comes. Or you thought when I say live I meant actual residential buildings?

No wonder you are still a dumbo

I have nothing to say....

Just observing with x50000 magnification

adepeter2027:

I have nothing to say....

Just observing with x50000 magnification

If you like observe with mega telescope

butterflyl1on:


I like your last comment. Why then do your fellow atheists not realise this simple thing?

You theists should also stop presenting your beliefs as if they are facts to avoid scrutiny.

There will be no need for arguments if no one claims a God exists... or knows that some God somewhere created the universe without proper evidence.

You should always keep it in mind that this is a public forum and someone with contrary position will challenge you.

Some people believe in the existence of Santa Claus but they don't introduce into public discussion for lack of proofs. Please do well to always state that it is mere belief and not fact... Whatever your version of God-belief is, make sure it is presented as such.

ScepticalPyrrho:
You theists should also stop presenting your beliefs as if they are facts to avoid scrutiny.

There will be no need for arguments if no one claims a God exists... or knows that some God somewhere created the universe without proper evidence.

You should always keep it in mind that this is a public forum and someone with contrary position will challenge you.

Some people believe in the existence of Santa Claus but they don't introduce into public discussion for lack of proofs. Please do well to always state that it is mere belief and not fact... Whatever your version of God-belief is, make sure it is presented as such.

What a biased comment

A theist believes that his belief is fact and when he speaks he does not require a fact oriented atheist to validate or invalidate his belief.

You atheists would do well to respect this. But the know it all attitude of you atheists would not allow you to shut up and look the other way.

You subscribe to a physical evidence based worldview as an atheist while a theist subscribes to a faith based evidence worldview. We do not have to lean in any direction to be accepted or have our views respected.

You do you and we will do us.

We do not owe you anything by stating that our faith is merely a belief. You do not deserve such privileges especially since you have absolutely nothing to do with our faith. Why then do you assume we need your validation?

Whatever your notion of God is you would do well to pocket it and discuss it strictly among fellow atheists like you who subscribe to your worldview.

Thanks

butterflyl1on:


What a biased comment

A theist believes that his belief is fact and when he speaks he does not require a fact oriented atheist to validate or invalidate his belief.

You atheists would do well to respect this. But the know it all attitude of you atheists would not allow you to shut up and look the other way.

You subscribe to a physical evidence based worldview as an atheist while a theist subscribes to a faith based evidence worldview. We do not have to lean in any direction to be accepted or have our views respected.

You do you and we will do us.

We do not owe you anything by stating that our faith is merely a belief. You do not deserve such privileges especially since you have absolutely nothing to do with our faith. Why then do you assume we need your validation?

Whatever your notion of God is you would do well to pocket it and discuss it strictly among fellow atheists like you who subscribe to your worldview.

Thanks

You trying too hard bro...

Atheists aren't the ones making unfounded claims...

ScepticalPyrrho:

You trying too hard bro...

Atheists aren't the ones making unfounded claims...

Theists never asked that you validate their claims. If you are so desperate to validate anything and everything then get into a laboratory and knock yourself out.

butterflyl1on:



Same way you claim his belief should be discouraged he can also claim your disbelief should be discouraged. You call him close-minded when he can also say you are close minded. He believes in the physical and the spiritual and you only believe in the physical yet you call him close-minded?

At this point you really need to stop being pushy and trying to think that he or anyone for that matter must give a hoot about your opinion.

He has a right to say it is fact, it is true, it is reality based on his faith which to him is evidence and does not need you to tell him how to express himself especially WHEN YOU DO NOT SUBSCRIBE TO HIS WORLDVIEW. what part of that do you find hard to understand and accept.

Somebody says he does not want to eat fish and you are trying to force it down his throat when you eat strictly vegetables. Focus on your vegetables and leave the other person to eat what appeals to him.

Like I said, if you so love proving stuff then locate a laboratory and get busy. Nairaland isn't a lab, it's a forum where people ARE FREE to declare their worldview and adhere to them without feeling intimidated and harassed by others who are yet to even understand themselves.

Take this as an example...

This kind of dogmatism should be discouraged as it adds to value to human lives...

Just imagine a society where all grown ups adopts this kind of closed minded line of thought.

All he had to do was say he "believes" and not state wishes/believes like they are proven facts.

ScepticalPyrrho:
Take this as an example...

This kind of dogmatism should be discouraged as it adds to value to human lives...

Just imagine a society where all grown ups adopts this kind of closed minded line of thought.

All he had to do was say he "believes" and not state wishes/believes like they are proven facts.

Same way you claim his belief should be discouraged he can also claim your disbelief should be discouraged. You call him close-minded when he can also say you are close minded. He believes in the physical and the spiritual and you only believe in the physical yet you call him close-minded?

At this point you really need to stop being pushy and trying to think that he or anyone for that matter must give a hoot about your opinion.

He has a right to say it is fact, it is true, it is reality based on his faith which to him is evidence and does not need you to tell him how to express himself especially WHEN YOU DO NOT SUBSCRIBE TO HIS WORLDVIEW. what part of that do you find hard to understand and accept.

Somebody says he does not want to eat fish and you are trying to force it down his throat when you eat strictly vegetables. Focus on your vegetables and leave the other person to eat what appeals to him.

Like I said, if you so love proving stuff then locate a laboratory and get busy. Nairaland isn't a lab, it's a forum where people ARE FREE to declare their worldview and adhere to them without feeling intimidated and harassed by others who are yet to even understand themselves.

butterflyl1on:



Same way you claim his belief should be discouraged he can also claim your disbelief should be discouraged. You call him close-minded when he can also say you are close minded. He believes in the physical and the spiritual and you only believe in the physical yet you call him close-minded?

At this point you really need to stop being pushy and trying to think that he or anyone for that matter must give a hoot about your opinion.

He has a right to say it is fact, it is true, it is reality based on his faith which to him is evidence and does not need you to tell him how to express himself especially WHEN YOU DO NOT SUBSCRIBE TO HIS WORLDVIEW. what part of that do you find hard to understand and accept.

Somebody says he does not want to eat fish and you are trying to force it down his throat when you eat strictly vegetables. Focus on your vegetables and leave the other person to eat what appeals to him.

Like I said, if you so love proving stuff then locate a laboratory and get busy. Nairaland isn't a lab, it's a forum where people ARE FREE to declare their worldview and adhere to them without feeling intimidated and harassed by others who are yet to even understand themselves.

As long the person doesn't go on threatening kids with damnation, calling fellow humans wishes, encourage slavery, call me a sinner, talk like he's just had dinner with a God... Well, he can eat something without condemning others based on belief and not fact... I won't sit back and ałlow un-informed persons mislead others... All he just has to say is, "I believe.... " No one would take it seriously.

Many others who are enlightened know how to rightly present their opinion... These ones were brainwashed...

I don't see you making such claims, do you?

ScepticalPyrrho:
As long the person doesn't go on threatening kids with damnation, calling fellow humans wishes, encourage slavery, call me a sinner, talk like he's just had dinner with a God... Well, he can eat something without condemning others based on belief and not fact... I won't sit back and ałlow un-informed persons mislead others... All he just has to say is, "I believe.... " No one would take it seriously.

Many others who are enlightened know how to rightly present their opinion... These ones were brainwashed...

I don't see you making such claims, do you?

You obviously have a problem with yourself and feel others are responsible. Since you do not accept their belief as fact how then are their belief based threats which you allege, bothering you?

Can a belief which isn't fact be used as a threat? Who even threatens kids with damnation? Presenting an option of heaven or hell to someone has suddenly become a threat? Last time I checked, options are made to be chosen and the choice is for the one the options were given. So how are options chosen by someone now a threat they received?

We are in the 21st century and you still believe anybody encourages slavery? Indeed you have a problem with yourself and that problem is known as stupidity.

You are a fact based person and not a belief based person. You should be scared if facts are used to speak to you and not when belief is used. So if belief is used to call you a sinner why does it bother you? If anyone talks like he just had dinner with God how does that bother you? Does anyone feel bothered when you declare all your nonsensical philosophy which is based on your worldview? Do you see the things you philosophically speak of?

You are the one misleading yourself and by extension misleading others and if you will not sit back for others do not expect others to sit back for you either. If you cannot respect the faith of another do not expect anyone to respect your stupidity.

You feel you are enlightened when you are simply a pawn on a big chess board whose opinion is as useless as a pawn which cannot change position by itself unless something bigger and more knowledgeable changes their position for them.

Bother about your failing life and stupidity Laden worldview and let another worry about their own. You are not anybodys Messiah. Jesus already did that Job. Get used to it!

butterflyl1on:


You obviously have a problem with yourself and feel others are responsible. Since you do not accept their belief as fact how then are their belief based threats which you allege, bothering you?

Can a belief which isn't fact be used as a threat? Who even threatens kids with damnation? Presenting an option of heaven or hell to someone has suddenly become a threat? Last time I checked, options are made to be chosen and the choice is for the one the options were given. So how are options chosen by someone now a threat they received?

We are in the 21st century and you still believe anybody encourages slavery? Indeed you have a problem with yourself and that problem is known as stupidity.

You are a fact based person and not a belief based person. You should be scared if facts are used to speak to you and not when belief is used. So if belief is used to call you a sinner why does it bother you? If anyone talks like he just had dinner with God how does that bother you? Does anyone feel bothered when you declare all your nonsensical philosophy which is based on your worldview? Do you see the things you philosophically speak of?

You are the one misleading yourself and by extension misleading others and if you will not sit back for others do not expect others to sit back for you either. If you cannot respect the faith of another do not expect anyone to respect your stupidity.

You feel you are enlightened when you are simply a pawn on a big chess board whose opinion is as useless as a pawn which cannot change position by itself unless something bigger and more knowledgeable changes their position for them.

Bother about your failing life and stupidity Laden worldview and let another worry about their own. You are not anybodys Messiah. Jesus already did that Job. Get used to it!

You just had to make the same error of presenting your beliefs as if it is factual, didn't you?

If I begin to ask questions, vaxx would start classifying me instead of you.

Just read epistemology, a better understanding of the word "knowledge" and "believe" will help you.

The world has made so much progress since we began to develop our knowledge of things and how things work(science). As I said earlier, this began by dumping myopic views and religious-dogmas in the first place... It is appalling for us to return to what we left for knowledge sake at this age.

Their is a new topic on front page talking about a new possibility of transferring datas faster than Wi-Fi... I bet Jesus didn't see this coming... he would have made a comment about it during his time... Maybe not... Maybe he just likes riding on horses, and drinking fermented grape juice.

ScepticalPyrrho:

You just had to make the same error of presenting your beliefs as if it is factual, didn't you?

If I begin to ask questions, vaxx would start classifying me instead of you.

Just read epistemology, a better understanding of the word "knowledge" and "believe" will help you.

The world has made so much progress since we began to develop our knowledge of things and how things work(science). As I said earlier, this began by dumping myopic views and religious-dogmas in the first place... It is appalling for us to return to what we left for knowledge sake at this age.

Their is a new topic on front page talking about a new possibility of transferring datas faster than Wi-Fi... I bet Jesus didn't see this coming... he would have made a comment about it during his time... Maybe not... Maybe he just likes riding on horses, and drinking fermented grape juice.

Sadly I do not think I have anything to gain by this back and forth and I sense that you actually crave things of this nature. I have made myself abundantly clear and you can read it anyhow you please.

Lifi or wifi or gifi or zifi are all is based on my faith based fact.

Daniel 12

12 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince who standeth for the children of thy people; and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting [a]contempt. 3 And they that are wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. 4 But thou, [b]O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

It had been known long before now that knowledge shall increase and this is why NO TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENT SHOCKS ME. You on the other hand seems to be shocked by this Lifi news.

My faith based fact life has prepared me long before now for the present and future but obviously your fact based life hasn't.

We are done here.

ScepticalPyrrho:



If I begin to ask questions, vaxx would start classifying me instead of you.

you are free to ask question as along as you care....it seems you refuse to understand why I created this thread.....my purpose isn't meant to ridducle your faith...it is meant to established the true meaning of atheism.... Why I conclude that the meaning is problematic....and I gave my reasons... Which no one on this thread has reffutted...

If you wish to ask question, go ahead bro....this is a knowledge sharing forum....who know I may be learning new thing from you.... I will also advice you to visit my topics...they are more interesting discussion I had with atheist there... Cheers bro...

AgentOfAllah:


I'm not a skeptic agonist because I am not skeptically agonising over anything. But since this is a labeling contest, permit me to label you a confused herbalist.

WTF!

LMAO.

JackBizzle:
We should compile the most stupid threads on the relifion section and vote for the worst in december for the end of the year party.

Cc hahn, hopefullandlord, johnydon22......

Should we?

AlmiqhteeAllah:
Should we?

Are you the same person using the same monicker... Tozarawithz

vaxx:
Are you the same person using the same monicker... Tozarawithz

Yep. My signature reveals as much.

AlmiqhteeAllah:
Yep. My signature reveals as much.

ooh good I thought as much....am ready to rub mind with you.if you are not in a position of I know better than you....pls why do you consider this topic illogical? I will tolerate every insult...if it will make you express your veiw perfectly.... Nonetheless it is reasonable we chart like a gentlemen.....