KingEbukasBlog:


That is the not the point of this thread , no goal shifting sir . The point of the thread is the show that atheists are in massive decline . It is fallacious to argue that the greater number supporting a proposition makes it true - you are the one suggesting this not me or butterflyl1on

Don't fan the embers sir. He will look for one word to latch on to from what you just said just to plot another derail attempt. Wait for it and see..

KingEbukasBlog:


He does not deify the creator of the universe who we call God but he acknowledges His existence , he does not deify Christ or anything and that makes him an atheist . There are Christian atheists

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_atheism

Very obvious you know very little about atheism . Be humble and don't pontificate

The following are quoted from the link you provided. Nowhere is existence of God acknowledged. They point to a lack of existence.

Christian atheism is a form of Cultural Christianity and a system of ethics which draws its beliefs and practices from the life and teachings of Jesus Christ, as recorded in the Gospels of the New Testament and other sources, while rejecting the supernatural claims of Christianity at large.

The assertion of the unreality of God

According to Paul van Buren, a Death of God theologian, the word God itself is "either meaningless or misleading".

The inference from these claims to the "either meaningless or misleading" conclusion is implicitly premised on the verificationist theory of meaning. Most Christian atheists believe that God never existed, but there are a few who believe in the death of God literally.

This is part of the reason why they see the existence of God as counter-progressive. Altizer wrote of God as the enemy to man because mankind could never reach its fullest potential while God existed.[4] He went on to state that "to cling to the Christian God in our time is to evade the human situation of our century and to renounce the inevitable suffering which is its lot".[4]

Some follow the tradition of “Christian non-realism,” most famously expounded in the UK by Don Cupitt in the 1980s, which holds that God is a symbol or metaphor and that religious language is not matched by a transcendent reality.

A minister of the PKN, Klaas Hendrikse has described God as "a word for experience, or human experience" and said that Jesus may have never existed.

Hendrikse gained attention with his book published in November 2007, in which he said that it was not necessary to believe in God's existence in order to believe in 'God'. The Dutch title of the book translates as, 'Believing in a God who does not exist: manifesto of an atheist pastor'.

Catholic atheism is a belief in which the culture, traditions, rituals, and norms of Catholicism are accepted, but the existence of God is rejected.

KingEbukasBlog:


That's not true . Atheists in Raelism accept there is a creator of life - aliens .

The Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM) is the deity of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or Pastafarianism.

budaatum:


The following are quoted from the link you provided. Nowhere is existence of God acknowledged. They point to a lack of existence.

Christian atheism is a form of Cultural Christianity and a system of ethics which draws its beliefs and practices from the life and teachings of Jesus Christ, as recorded in the Gospels of the New Testament and other sources, while rejecting the supernatural claims of Christianity at large.

The assertion of the unreality of God

According to Paul van Buren, a Death of God theologian, the word God itself is "either meaningless or misleading".

The inference from these claims to the "either meaningless or misleading" conclusion is implicitly premised on the verificationist theory of meaning. Most Christian atheists believe that God never existed, but there are a few who believe in the death of God literally.

This is part of the reason why they see the existence of God as counter-progressive. Altizer wrote of God as the enemy to man because mankind could never reach its fullest potential while God existed.[4] He went on to state that "to cling to the Christian God in our time is to evade the human situation of our century and to renounce the inevitable suffering which is its lot".[4]

Some follow the tradition of “Christian non-realism,” most famously expounded in the UK by Don Cupitt in the 1980s, which holds that God is a symbol or metaphor and that religious language is not matched by a transcendent reality.

A minister of the PKN, Klaas Hendrikse has described God as "a word for experience, or human experience" and said that Jesus may have never existed.

Hendrikse gained attention with his book published in November 2007, in which he said that it was not necessary to believe in God's existence in order to believe in 'God'. The Dutch title of the book translates as, 'Believing in a God who does not exist: manifesto of an atheist pastor'.

Catholic atheism is a belief in which the culture, traditions, rituals, and norms of Catholicism are accepted, but the existence of God is rejected.

I still don't know what is difficult for you to understand my brother na . As an atheist , you can reject the existence of a creator ; still as an atheist , you can acknowledge the existence of a creator . As a theist , you can reject the existence of a creator ; still as an theist , you can acknowledge the existence of a creator . Whether the creator exists or not has absolutely nothing to do with atheism or theism .

I pointed out atheists who believe in the existence of God and intelligent design(WITH A SNAPSHOT) . I posted links showing that there are atheists who believe in spirits , religion , magic and witchcraft .

Maybe this new information is too much to take in - this is why Im being patient with you . Try to be mentally fluid , have an open-mind , be prepared to reappraise your cherished beliefs so as to free up mental space for new ones with good reasons or evidence to support them . I was once like you , having misconceptions about these things ; expanding my knowledge on philosophy , religion , logic , history etc made me understand these things better . You won't die if you accept the truth .

budaatum:

The Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM) is the deity of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or Pastafarianism.

FSM is a satire of creationism . Please dont make me laugh

KingEbukasBlog:


FSM is a satire of creationism . Please dont make me laugh

I am laughing already by giving it as much weight as Raëlianism.

KingEbukasBlog:


As a theist , you can reject the existence of a creator ; still as an theist , you can acknowledge the existence of a creator . Whether the creator exists or not has absolutely nothing to do with atheism or theism .

I pointed out atheists who believe in the existence of God

Really?

Theism is broadly defined as the belief in the existence of a deity or deities.

Atheism is commonly understood as rejection of theism in the broadest sense of theism, i.e. the rejection of belief in a god or gods.

Wiki

budaatum:

I am laughing already by giving it as much weight as Raëlianism.

This is a red herring anyway . Raelism is an atheistic religion . You can look it up .

budaatum:

Really?

Theism is broadly defined as the belief in the existence of a deity or deities.

Atheism is commonly understood as rejection of theism in the broadest sense of theism, i.e. the rejection of belief in a god or gods.

Wiki

Again , how does this refute my stance

The bolded is bull crap. How can you even think that. Christian atheists ? When the very foundation of Christianity is rooted in the belief that Jesus Christ is the Savior who died and rose and is still coming back?

KingEbukasBlog:


He does not deify the creator of the universe who we call God but he acknowledges His existence , he does not deify Christ or anything and that makes him an atheist . There are Christian atheists

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_atheism

Very obvious you know very little about atheism . Be humble and don't pontificate

Amberon11:
The bolded is bull crap. How can you even think that. Christian atheists ? When the very foundation of Christianity is rooted in the belief that Jesus Christ is the Savior who died and rose and is still coming back?

Well Christian atheism accepts the moral teachings of Christ but rejects his divine nature . Maybe 'Christian atheists' is a misnomer , I get what you mean .

Ebuka and his ridiculous ways. Christian atheism indeed.

KingEbukasBlog:


Well Christian atheism accepts the moral teachings of Christ but rejects his divine nature . Maybe 'Christian atheists' is a misnomer , I get what you mean .

You not entirely wrong. The Word Christian when used as seen by the circular world can stand for Christian atheism but not when scripturally applied.

Christian atheists are cultural Christians who believe the teachings but say God is in the world and not deified or transcendent.

butterflyl1on:


You not entirely wrong. The Word Christian when used as seen by the circular world can stand for Christian atheism but not when scripturally applied.

Christian atheists are cultural Christians who believe the teachings but say God is in the world and not deified or transcendent.

Exactly . Thanks bro . Amberon11, this is a much better explanation

dalaman:
Ebuka and his ridiculous ways. Christian atheism indeed.

Unfortunately its a thing . There are atheists in theistic religions

dalaman:
Ebuka and his ridiculous ways. Christian atheism indeed.

Ignorance isn't a thing to be proud of. There are Christian atheists

butterflyl1on:


Ignorance isn't a thing to be proud of. There are Christian atheists

Sure, there are human extraterrestrial robots.

Amberon11:
The bolded is bull crap. How can you even think that. Christian atheists ? When the very foundation of Christianity is rooted in the belief that Jesus Christ is the Savior who died and rose and is still coming back?

it's surprising how people think. Atheists can not be in Christainity

dalaman:


Sure, there are human extraterrestrial robots.

my boss

Ericsunday619:
my boss

My pesin. Wetin dey happen?

dalaman:


My pesin. Wetin dey happen?

nothing much sir

You're the one basking in your euphoria of ignorance. This is very laughable indeed. Christian atheist in what world? Most definitely in Pluto, not on mother earth.

butterflyl1on:


Ignorance isn't a thing to be proud of. There are Christian atheists

I can't comprehend how anyone could come up with that. What's worse is the fact that a Christian is boldly accepting that such exists.

Ericsunday619:
it's surprising how people think. Atheists can not be in Christainity

Amberon11:
I can't comprehend how anyone could come up with that. What's worse is the fact that a Christian is boldly accepting that such exists.

My dear you get me wrong. You are viewing a Christian atheist from the perspective of the true meaning of the word "christian". Those who define a Christian atheist used the word "christian" to denote the religion and not the lifestyle of a follower of Christ.

Based on this they were able to categorise a Christian atheist successfully.

Read

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/8866378


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_atheism

www.gotquestions.org/amp/Christian-atheism.html

butterflyl1on:


Mega jumbo dumbo the thread is solely about atheists and you are bringing in a goal post shift.

So you brought your monotonous stupidity to this thread as well?

Oya, Zuckerman estimates atheists- thank God he didnt mention agnostics. Oya, do you now accept your thread as fake news?


Phil zuckerman estimates there to be 500 to 750 million atheists in the world. 7 to 10% as at 2007
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism#cite_note-CambridgeZuckerman-1

So why should i believe a dubious set of statistics from a christian site that claims that atheists are only 140 million in the world?

JackBizzle:



Oya, Zuckerman estimates atheists- thank God he didnt mention agnostics. Oya, do you now accept your thread as fake news?


Phil zuckerman estimates there to be 500 to 750 million atheists in the world. 7 to 10% as at 2007
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism#cite_note-CambridgeZuckerman-1

So why should i believe a dubious set of statistics from a christian site that claims that atheists are only 140 million in the world?

Ode among the links given was pewresearch and you are bringing Wikipedia.

Extra mumu fall on you dia

As Ebuka said,

Here is 2017 research by PewResearch , stay updated.


http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/07/why-people-with-no-religion-are-projected-to-decline-as-a-share-of-the-worlds-population/

butterflyl1on:


Ignorance isn't a thing to be proud of. There are Christian atheists

There is no such thing as a christian atheist. Atheism by definition voids the whole old testament as the old testament is made up of God talking to and directing man. No God, no rules, no commandment, no convenant, no adam and eve....nothing.

Then also, atheism will also make Jesus a liar whenever he talks about his father in heaven.

JackBizzle:


There is no such thing as a christian atheist. Atheism by definition voids the whole old testament as the old testament is made up of God talking to and directing man. No God, no rules, no commandment, no convenant, no adam and eve....nothing.

Then also, atheism will also make Jesus a liar whenever he talks about his father in heaven.

Your mumu is very fertile this morning.

Here is my quote to Amberon11 you can have a feel

My dear you get me wrong. You are viewing a Christian atheist from the perspective of the true meaning of the word "christian". Those who define a Christian atheist used the word "christian" to denote the religion and not the lifestyle of a follower of Christ.

Based on this they were able to categorise a Christian atheist successfully.

Read

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/8866378


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_atheism

www.gotquestions.org/amp/Christian-atheism.html

butterflyl1on:


Ode among the links given was pewresearch and you are bringing Wikipedia.

Extra mumu fall on you dia

As Ebuka said,

Here is 2017 research by PewResearch , stay updated.


http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/07/why-people-with-no-religion-are-projected-to-decline-as-a-share-of-the-worlds-population/

The pew research negates the OP. Dullard. Pew research put the population of atheists at 16% of the world population while the op is at 2%-1.8%

Wikipedia also quotes and references Zuckerman's book (Zuckerman is a renowned sociologist) which puts atheists at 7-10%


So, in short, Ebuka's op is fake news.


Thannks for listening

NairalandSARS:

Your friend is not an atheist.
He is a misotheist.

Yet he claimed to be an atheist, showing some people who claim to be atheists really misotheists. Or at least implicitly believe in God as those studies I cited seems to suggest.

JackBizzle:





The pew research negates the OP. Dullard. Pew research put the population of atheists at 16% of the world population while the op is at 2%-1.8%

Wikipedia also quotes and references Zuckerman's book (Zuckerman is a renowned sociologist) which puts atheists at 7-10%


So, in short, Ebuka's op is fake news.


Thannks for listening

Do you even understand what they mean by the "nones" ? Why are you this dense?

The research is written in English and not in Creole so why is assimilation extremely difficult for you?

butterflyl1on:



Your mumu is very fertile this morning.

Here is my quote to Amberon11 you can have a feel

I would rather see a link from an atheist website. Your reply is nonsense supported by unreliable links.

There is no such thing as a christian atheist. Nonsense