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Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by Kokaine(m): 8:14pm On Nov 10, 2017
uboma:
Apostle Suleiman should shut his mouth.


Where are the books written by him whose proceeds he uses to maintain his luxurious lifestyle?


Apostle Suleiman, the Clergyman, who likes to end his love sessions behind.....
now someone is talking.
theraja and gupta that wrote big electrical books purchased world wide by both Christians, muslims, jews, and all, they have not bought private jets

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Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by tunize(m): 8:19pm On Nov 10, 2017
uboma:
Apostle Suleiman should shut his mouth.


Where are the books written by him whose proceeds he uses to maintain his luxurious lifestyle?


Apostle Suleiman, the Clergyman, who likes to end his love sessions behind.....
U should shut up ur mouth cos i can see u are senseless cant you jst tall without insulting d man of God and who made u God to judge.
Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by delors(m): 8:20pm On Nov 10, 2017
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Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by andycom(m): 8:20pm On Nov 10, 2017
Feyol55:
God blez u sir,i continue tithing till Kingdom comes, come and arrest me





Paul was a tent maker, Peter was a fisherman, Jesus was a carpenter. What is your pastor's daily job?

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Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by smugmanuel(m): 8:20pm On Nov 10, 2017
Talking about tithing, you as a Christian should obey Gods commandment. Jesus spoke about tithing in Matthew 23vs23. Play your part and leave God to do the rest. Paying of tithe and giving of offerings isn’t by force but it’s a commandment.
Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by BabaAduras: 8:23pm On Nov 10, 2017
Sapiosexuality:
He couldn't even say if tithing is a Christian doctrine or a stretch of the old testament. He made some sense but I think his defense was more emotional than scriptural or even logical.

The doctor analogy doesn't hold water in this case. You don't need be a good footballer or tailor to know a good tailor or footballer. Their work will tell you about them. That line was off.

I think his statement was laced some of the properties of mischief. Tacitly attacking the guy and telling what tithe is used for. But the point should be, is tithing Christian? Is it something a Christian ought do?

Instead of focusing on the subject we are here deflecting the shots and telling tales to defend or seen to be at peace with our mentor! I've not seen a good argument against that troublesome guy's position.


http://www.mortalpoet.com/brothers-beggars-street-tithe-church/


The truth is they have no defense against Deu 14: 22-29. You will never hear it preached in any church. That is where God laid the foundation for tithe. In that section of the bible God gave the reason why you tithe and what you should do with your tithe. In fact the directives in that portion of the Bible is so emphatical, it is "thou shall". No questioning the directives.

The "Pastorprenuers" who rather pretend this portion of Gods commandment does not exist so they can continue to "shopulate" what is meant for you, the widows, the strangers, orphans and the Levites (the pastors). It is a question of greed, the Pastorprenuers wants total control of the tithe instead of the portion that your are supposed to give them (as a portion to the Levites) at your discretion.

I put it forward to all that believe in tithing that you are committing sin by going against the commandment of God as given in Deut 14: 22-29 if you give your tithe to the church or to the Pastor. That means you fear the Pastor or Church more than God.

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Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by koolaid87: 8:23pm On Nov 10, 2017
You can tell that this ha nothing to do with truth.

How can you say someone has no right to interfere with church's issue.

So since we're not called, we should just remain silent while you shield your corrupt practices in the name of God?

Man, that's brain washing and indoctrination of the highest order.

Mr FreeZe, keep spreading the real truth.

Truth will win at last

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Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by Keneeby(m): 8:25pm On Nov 10, 2017
OBIGS:
Chaii religion. The man they claim field now With God's work. So being a pastor is nowa field not a calling. when most members they read their bible pass the pastors. Sha I no blame pastors na the gullible members I dey pity

You are too carnal to reason
Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by Keneeby(m): 8:27pm On Nov 10, 2017
koolaid87:
You can tell that this ha nothing to do with truth.

How can you say someone has no right to interfere with church's issue.

So since we're not called, we should just remain silent while you shield your corrupt practices in the name of God?

Man, that's brain washing and indoctrination of the highest order.

Mr FreeZe, keep spreading the real truth.

Truth will win at last

Fake truth. Who is daddy freez in the kingdom issue?
Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by Keneeby(m): 8:28pm On Nov 10, 2017
Daddy Freez should give his life to Jesus. He needs Jesus.
Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by Peejoeee(m): 8:32pm On Nov 10, 2017
The apostle didn't give no Bible reference

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Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by bloodofthelamb(m): 8:33pm On Nov 10, 2017
THERE IS EVERYTHING WRONG WITH TITHE... TITHING WILL LEAD YOU AWAY FROM JESUS{GRACE}...

IT WILL MAKE YOU BELIEVE THAT GOD OWES YOU...

IT WILL MAKE YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE DESERVING OF THE BLESSINGS OF GOD, BECAUSE YOU ARE GIVING OR PAYING YOUR TITHE.

TITHE PAYERS IN THE HOUSE IS THIS NOT YOUR BELIEVES AFTER YOU MUST HAVE DROPPED YOUR TITHE? IF I AM WRONG, PLS CORRECT ME.

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Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by Leonbonapart(m): 8:33pm On Nov 10, 2017
YoungRichRuler:
Now they are attending to this guy

Honestly he didn't really attend to the matter. He was just going back and forth
go and attend to him na

Oya were ni
Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by cstr1000: 8:34pm On Nov 10, 2017
I am paying my first fruits offering next week along with tithes.
Come and beat me.
Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by lucarella: 8:34pm On Nov 10, 2017
Just when I thought our politicians were sent straight from hell. These pastors ehn...
Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by sharpwriter(m): 8:35pm On Nov 10, 2017
FaniDan:
, Are you also doubting the Bible, touch not my anointed

My dear, away from the main topic let me teach you the scripture you quoted rightly. The scripture wasn't directed to men of God specifically. Please, do well to see Psalm 105:9-22. But later, read from the beginning to the end which is verse 45. Touch not mine anointed and do my prophet no harm as seen in verse 15 talks about the journey of the children of Israel(Jacob), that is, the twelve sons of Jacob. The Covenant made to Abraham in verse 9, which Jacob inherited was also with his sons, and they are the anointed of God, and prophets unto him, see verse 16, it talked of the famine in the land, but remember that Joseph had already been sold to Egypt as revealed in verse 17. And it was Joseph that saved them from that famine. What am I saying; I am saying that that verse (touch not mine anointed) is not for men of God in our generation alone, IT IS FOR EVERY ADOPTED CHILDREN OF GOD, because 1 John 2:27 tells us that we have received anointing from God (NKJV). You yourself, you are anointed and also a Prophetess because you are God's maid servant (Acts 2:17-18) and the Spirit of God resides in you.

So, let us gain more knowledge in God's things and read full scriptures, not just quotations. If you see the whole of Psalm 105, you will see that it is a brief summary of the journey of children of Israel and the covenant God gave them since Abraham's time till they acquired the land of the gentiles which is Canaan. Therefore touch not mine anointed points primarily to those twelve sons of Israel originally in the context of biblical teaching. Expand this knowledge to others too. Thanks. cool cool

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Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by delpee(f): 8:40pm On Nov 10, 2017
There's no need for this back and forth arguments. Anyone who feels spiritually inclined to pay should do so. Those who don't are also free to do as they wish.
Some would rather give to charity, widows, orphans etc.

No pastor/priest forces anyone to pay even if they emphasize the need to do so.

I think it's more important to know what is being done with the tithe. In most orthodox Churches, the annual reports show details of income and expenses. In fact what is collected weekly is reflected in the Sunday bulletin. It's easy to know if there's misappropriation of funds.

The excessive display of wealth by some Pentecostal pastors seems to be at the root of this media war. With the level of poverty today, people may feel aggrieved but God is the ultimate judge. He never fails.
Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by lucarella: 8:44pm On Nov 10, 2017
Plasmbob1:
Calm response but with all due respect sir, the fact that freeze isn't a pastor doesn't mean he can't have a say if he smells a rat in the way most churches are being run today. Paul rebuked Peter even though the latter was with Jesus throughout.

The Gospel has been hijacked by thieves in suit and if not checked, Christianity is sitting on a time bomb.

On the tithe issue, I think it's what you believe in that eventually works for you. I don't pay and when I'm broke I simply accept the situation, same when I earn a few bucks. I don't attribute it to a certain seed sowed. If you notice a correlation between your finances and tithe paying, better don't stop.

The bolded explains everything bruh! Look, what sets God above everyone else is the ability to create a world in which every living being creates his own reality. Whatever you hold a genuine believe in, will work for you. No matter what it is. That's why Jesus always asked before he healed people if they believed.
Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by totorimi: 8:44pm On Nov 10, 2017
I align with Daddy Yo 100%, this one is just blabbing no scriptural facts to back up what he is saying just because his Papa has said it and so is he God's word in the Bible. They cannot face Daddy Freeze in any debate they are just milking the sheeples.

Like I said the other time one of them pastors was calling me to ask if I am no longer working because he has not seen my tithe. I said what the heck and i ran for my dear life. They are all like that asking for money everywhere from poor hapless masses, some even collect gate fee before the same people that are contributing to their well being are allowed to enter into the church they used their money to build.

It is only one biblical verse that daddy Yo will quote and this one will go back to where he emerged from.

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Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by royalty18: 8:47pm On Nov 10, 2017
I cannot but wonder why an OAP somewhere will be telling you as a believer what to do or what not to do. Those claiming he'd read the Bible, how many times have you read your own Bible?? Everybody is free to air his opinion but when all you do is pastor this, pastor that, tithe today, firstfruits tomorrow, then I have serious issues with such!
I was opportune this morning to read Open Heavens Devotional and what I read therein encouraged me. Baba Adeboye sold his first car for the first Holy Ghost Congress. Where was Freeze or whatever his name is then? When he sold his first house, where were all the badmouthers So now God is blessing His servants, you're complaining? You were not there when they were labouring. Now it is their season of harvests you're writing epistles upon epistles why they should not do this or that! I pity your generation!
Moreso, who told you the pastors riding private jets are using the members tithes for such?? I smile in Spanish! What you know nothing about, you sit in your room and condemn? What makes you think every good thing a pastor is using is from members tithes??
I bet with you, some of those running their mouths up and down don't work near a quarter of what those men of God are doing!
Maybe you should open your Bible and read Galatians 6:6 for yourself!



Note: The above was written in response to criticisms surrounding Pastor Adeboye 's video response to Freeze. ..

I laugh at the way some people here call him daddy Freeze up and down, and yet such people would write epistles on why your pastor should not be called Daddy. Smiles!
Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by bionixs: 8:48pm On Nov 10, 2017
Plasmbob1:
Calm response but with all due respect sir, the fact that freeze isn't a pastor doesn't mean he can't have a say if he smells a rat in the way most churches are being run today. Paul rebuked Peter even though the latter was with Jesus throughout.

The Gospel has been hijacked by thieves in suit and if not checked, Christianity is sitting on a time bomb.

On the tithe issue, I think it's what you believe in that eventually works for you. I don't pay and when I'm broke I simply accept the situation, same when I earn a few bucks. I don't attribute it to a certain seed sowed. If you notice a correlation between your finances and tithe paying, better don't stop.
if your tithe is not involved., kindly let people decide who get their money, we are not kids. How many times have you thought people how to make money? All you do is teach us how to or not to use our hard earned money. Oga, if I like, I throw it into the gutter., it is my money and not your please. I will continue to pay huge tithe and that is my money not yours. You haven't told us why most of you hate not just the pastors but the church. Why you shouldnt waste your money in stip clubs is one topics you and your co travelers do not address but when it is about pastors and tithe
you don't even pay, you start reacting like acid
Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by bloodofthelamb(m): 8:49pm On Nov 10, 2017
Keneeby:


Fake truth. Who is daddy freez in the kingdom issue?

FREEZE IS A NOBODY, LIKEWISE ADEBOYE, OYEDEPO, OYAKHILOMEW, TB JOSHUA, POPE ARE ALL NOBODY WITHOUT CHRIST.

CHRIST DIED TO MAKE A NOBODY, SOMEBODY.

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Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by bionixs: 8:49pm On Nov 10, 2017
Samusu:
E de pain them wallahi.

Freeze abi freezer wan spoil market for them.

#freethesheeplemovement
if your tithe is not involved., kindly let people decide who get their money, we are not kids. How many times have you thought people how to make money ? All you do is teach us how to or not to use our hard earned money. Oga, if I like, I throw it into the gutter., it is my money and not your please. I will continue to pay huge tithe and that is my money not yours. You haven't told us why most of you hate not just the pastors but the church. Why you shouldnt waste your money in stip clubs is one topics you and your co travelers do not address but when it is about pastors and tithe
you don't even pay, you start reacting like acid
Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by bionixs: 8:49pm On Nov 10, 2017
Slaveman343:
He said rubbish.

Beating around the bush without tackling the salient points. That's how you know someone is not saying the truth.

if your tithe is not involved., kindly let people decide who get their money, we are not kids. How many times have you thought people how to make money ? All you do is teach us how to or not to use our hard earned money. Oga, if I like, I throw it into the gutter., it is my money and not your please. I will continue to pay huge tithe and that is my money not yours. You haven't told us why most of you hate not just the pastors but the church. Why you shouldnt waste your money in stip clubs is one topics you and your co travelers do not address but when it is about pastors and tithe
you don't even pay, you start reacting like acid
Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by Shesweetdie(f): 8:50pm On Nov 10, 2017
sleemoon:
Naija girls with small boobs, please don't bath with Dettol or any other Medicated Soap. It may wipe your boobs away thinking its pimples������

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Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by aalangel(f): 8:54pm On Nov 10, 2017
Well said.
Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by Nobody: 8:54pm On Nov 10, 2017
Samusu:
E de pain them wallahi.

Freeze abi freezer wan spoil market for them.

#freethesheeplemovement

like seriously !!! can any human spoil/stop God's work,, lol !!! jus because sum1 speaks grammar pass queen doesnt mean he is influencial ... freeze is jus a lonely dude,,how relevant is he today in entertainment world ,,coupled with failed marriage and a drowning career ,,wu stil respect him.
guys that masturbate on tithe issues are the ones who donnt even pay,, and think a justification from one london used clone is what clears their guilty..... oga no one go forcely collect tithe frm ur pocket ...stop ranting
Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by royalty18: 8:54pm On Nov 10, 2017
bionixs:
if your tithe is not involved., kindly let people decide who get their money, we are not kids. How many times have you thought people how to make money ? All you do is teach us how to or not to use our hard earned money. Oga, if I like, I throw it into the gutter., it is my money and not your please. I will continue to pay huge tithe and that is my money not yours. You haven't told us why most of you hate not just the pastors but the church. Why you shouldnt waste your money in stip clubs is one topics you and your co travelers do not address but when it is about pastors and tithe
you don't even pay, you start reacting like acid

Do you think those complaining on this faceless forum pay tithes? I smile. They are just blabbers! Running their mouths up and down.
Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by koolaid87: 8:57pm On Nov 10, 2017
Keneeby:


Fake truth. Who is daddy freez in the kingdom issue?

Who endorsed all your daddies on supposed kingdom issues?

African type of religion is nothing but a charade of deceits and Chicanery, only to placate the minds of the masses.

Religion is part of the reason we're here today. While most developed countries put in place good measure to bring heaven on earth, Africans on the other hand, only believe that despite your meagre living condition, believe that there's a place up there. Keep suffering and smiling because there's a reward for your humility and perseverance.

Any accusation on any supposed man of God will be taken with a pinch of salt because they are angels and can do no wrong. Anyone that airs different views to their ideology is immediately termed agent of darkness.

Africa still have a long way to go but I can only hope people see the light before it's ruined.

Bless Mr FreeZe

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Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by royalty18: 8:58pm On Nov 10, 2017
ericsmith:


like seriously !!! can any human spoil/stop God's work,, lol !!! jus because sum1 speaks grammar pass queen doesnt mean he is influencial ... freeze is jus a lonely dude,,how relevant is he today in entertainment world ,,coupled with failed marriage and a drowning career ,,wu stil respect him.
guys that masturbate on tithe issues are the ones who donnt even pay,, and think a justification from one london used clone is what clears their guilty..... oga no one go forcely collect tithe frm ur pocket ...stop ranting
.Tell them o. To me, that's his assignment from hell, to just badmouth God's servants up and down. Some people"s mouths are anuses, you know! Just pouring out shits!
Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by entparrot(f): 9:01pm On Nov 10, 2017
saint047:




What ever u believe works, any month I refused to pay my tithe I will end up spending it fixing my car, paying for drugs and others things. People believed psalm 91,psalm 23 but refuses to believe Malachi 3v10. We should believe all parts of the Bible not some parts

Even if you pay ur tithe those listed problems of yours will still pop up, as far as you are living, there must always be a problem.

The way you are saying it, is like God is threatening every body, pay me or you get sick or more problems on u.

Chinese don't know what tithe is, but in every 37 Chinese persons 1 is worth a million dollars.

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Re: Apostle Suleman Replies Daddy Freeze on Tithing Controversy by AyamConfidence(m): 9:04pm On Nov 10, 2017
coluka:
Food don set for daddy freeze. Between now and tomorrow morning, we go hear another sermon from pastor freezy
just and I just can't wait

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