ephraimlongkat:
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“Let it be clear that if anyone is not a pastor, he has no right to attack a pastor on church issue. He should leave everything to God. I only laugh. Somebody who is not a doctor cannot teach a certified doctor how to go about doing his job; he will just be laughed at. Someone who is not a journalist can’t teach a true journalist how he should do his work; they will just be laughing at him.


And that is where Freeze always wins.... He has Bible portions to back his points all these men go dey shout Malachi
rubbish, I tot he was going to give a Bible verse.

somehow:
Maybe you don't know the meaning of forcing.

When members are given tithe cards, it's to segregate those not paying.
When those paying are made to stand up every Sunday just to make them feel good and make those not paying look like thieves.
When those paying are given more relevance than those not paying.
When curses are used to threaten those not paying.
When promises of blessings are used to entice those paying.

These are called systematic threats/enticement which can be tagged as direct or indirect force.

uboma:
Apostle Suleiman should shut his mouth.


Where are the books written by him whose proceeds he uses to maintain his luxurious lifestyle?


Apostle Suleiman, the Clergyman, who likes to end his love sessions behind.....

uboma:
Apostle Suleiman should shut his mouth.


Where are the books written by him whose proceeds he uses to maintain his luxurious lifestyle?


Apostle Suleiman, the Clergyman, who likes to end his love sessions behind.....

FaniDan:
, and,this is the reason why sometimes some stuff happens to you and you will be like why me, Ask Mariam in the Bible she will tell you

royalty18:


Do you think those complaining on this faceless forum pay tithes? I smile. They are just blabbers! Running their mouths up and down.

Owiii:

Mr. Man or woman, shut up, I say shut up. Put your hand on your head and pray to God so that He will give you commonsense. Did he Apostle Suleman request that you bring your money or buy his books? No. So keep quiet and make meaningful contributions where necessary not to spew rubbish

saint047:




What ever u believe works, any month I refused to pay my tithe I will end up spending it fixing my car, paying for drugs and others things. People believed psalm 91,psalm 23 but refuses to believe Malachi 3v10. We should believe all parts of the Bible not some parts

butterflyl1on:


Here are a few

BY FIRE BY THUNDER

----BACK FIRE BY FIRE

---- PROSPERITY THOU ART LOOSED

----CREATED FOR THE PALACE

----WALKING IN POWER

----MAXIMIZING SINGLEHOOD

----LET GOD ARISE

----COVENANT STEPS TO GREATNESS

----FREEDOM FROM CURSES

----GOLIATH MUST DIE

----MY FATHER MY FATHER[THAT WITCH MUST DIE

----LICENSED TO KILL

-----MY FATHER MY FATHER[RELEASE MY MONEY

----OMEGA FIRE MINISTRIES PASTORAL ETHICS

----7 DIMENSIONS OF THE SPIRIT

----SUCCESS SECRET FOR OUTSTANDING MINISTRY[MINISTERS ENCYCLOPEDIA]

---MY FATHER MY FATHER THAT WITCH DIES NOW!

---HOLY MADNESS.

---MY FATHER MY FATHER THAT WITCH MUST DIE.

amunkita:

u should be the one shutting urs. Who made u a judge

uboma:



Lol


So these are the kind of books whose proceeds he spends to maintain his luxurious lifestyle?

don10ky:

You people don't have Respect for men of God.. You just insult them the way you like.. I wish Christ has not pay the price

DeRay98:


Have you gone to Christian bookstores and didn't find his books? If you haven't then hold your peace.

sinceraconcept:
all his 50+ books can't even a buy a Venza not to talk of the extravagant lifestyle. who spends book money lavishly?
he said you shouldn't pocket all the tithe,but you can pocket 99% and spend 1% on the community abi?

tunize:

U should shut up ur mouth cos i can see u are senseless cant you jst tall without insulting d man of God and who made u God to judge.

InsideOut247:
@InsideOutBlog

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That young man does not deserve a response; in fact, I’m not talking because of him but because my Papa, Pastor Adeboye had spoken, I’m speaking on the issue. Now, if it requires that we go into a debate, let’s have it. Yes, your tithe is not a license to make heaven but it is an acknowledgment of God’s mercy in your life. But because Papa Adeboye corrected the wrong notion and the young man dared to respond to him, I felt it was insulting. This is not about sentiment or emotion, it is about commonsense. You don’t respond to an elder in certain manner, especially a man of Pastor Adeboye’s standing.


There are things people shouldn’t just dabble into especially when it is not their field. Even if you mobilize the whole world against tithing, you will only end up being counterproductive because this is not your field. Men of God do not need to react to such issues because like I said earlier, once somebody has made up his mind on a position, nobody should argue with such a man. My reaction to such a man is, if that is your position, keep it, continue with what you believe but don’t confuse people to believe what you believe.”

http://insideout247..com.ng/2017/11/apostle-suleman-replies-daddy-freeze-on.html

SayITnw:

This is quite instructive, please read and thank me later....

What Does the Bible Say About the Tithe or Tithing?Frequently Asked QuestionsDoes the Bible require me to give 10% of my income to my church?Should I tithe based on gross or net income?Am I obligated to give to my church even if I am having trouble paying my bills?What does the Bible say about church offerings?Will I receive blessings if I give "seed money" to a ministry?Old Testament"Tithe" means a tenth or 10 percent. The tithing system described in the Bible was designed specifically to meet the needs of the religious, economic and political system of ancient Israel. Each of the twelve tribes of Israel, except the tribe of Levi, initially received an allotment of land in the promised land of Canaan. The Levites were assistants to Israel's priests and were supported by a tithe offering from other eleven tribes. All families of those eleven tribes were to give a tenth of all produce, flocks, and cattle to the Levites. In turn, the Levites were to give a tenth of that to support the priests (Leviticus 27:30-33, Numbers 18:21-28). Tithes were also used to meet the needs of foreigners, orphans and widows. (Deuteronomy 26:12-13)

In addition, everyone was to be generous with those in need:

If there is a poor man among your brothers in any of the towns of the land that the LORD your God is giving you, do not be hardhearted or tightfisted toward your poor brother. Rather be openhanded and freely lend him whatever he needs. (NIV, Deuteronomy 15:7-

New TestamentThere are several mentions of tithing in the New Testament (Matthew 23:23, Luke 11:42, 18:12; Hebrews 7:5-9), but all refer to the Old Testament system. The New Testament does not give any specific rules about tithing, and most aspects of the Old Testament Law do not apply to Christians. (See What Does the Bible Say About the Old Testament Law?)

Jesus seems to support the tithe in Matthew 23:23-24, but these verses are primarily intended as a criticism of the Pharisees as hypocrites who obeyed the letter of the law but not the spirit of the law. They were so meticulous about the law that they tithed even the small amounts of spices they grew in household gardens, but they ignored the more important matters of justice, mercy and faith!

However, Jesus made it clear that we are obligated to be generous to those in need (Matthew 25:31-46).

Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you. (NIV, Matthew 5:42)

Giving is to be done cheerfully, rather than as an obligation (2 Corinthians 9:6-7), and not for the purpose of public recognition (Matthew 6:1-4). The right amount to give may be more or less than ten percent, depending on one's circumstances (Matthew 19:21, Luke 18:22, 21:1-4, Hebrews 13:16, 1 John 3:17). Generous giving is an acknowledgment that everything we have is a gift from God, and is to be used in His service (Luke 12:33, Acts 20:35, 1 Timothy 6:17-19, James 1:17, 1:27, 1 Peter 4:10).

Rather than give a certain amount as an obligation, we are urged to share generously of whatever talents, abilities and wealth God has entrusted to us:

We have different gifts, according to the grace given us. If a man's gift is prophesying, let him use it in proportion to his faith. If it is serving, let him serve; if it is teaching, let him teach; if it is encouraging, let him encourage; if it is contributing to the needs of others, let him give generously; if it is leadership, let him govern diligently; if it is showing mercy, let him do it cheerfully. (NIV, Romans 12:6-

QuestionsDoes the Bible require me to give 10 percent of my income to my church? Should my offering be computed on gross or net income?The Bible does not require Christians to give any certain percentage. Modern day questions about what percentage we should give and whether it should be computed on gross income, net income or wealth are not answered in the Bible. Nor does the Bible tell us how much of our giving should go to a church and how much to help the needy. (See What Does the Bible Say About Generosity and Duty to the Poor?)

In Biblical times Christians typically held their meetings in private homes or public spaces (Acts 2:46, 12:12) and did not have significant operating expenses. However, modern churches do need money to pay for salaries, rent or mortgage payments, utilities, maintenance, supplies and other expenses. Churches also need volunteers for many ministries and tasks. The apostle Paul urged Christians to diligently use their God-given gifts to support the work of the Church (Romans 12:4-.

Am I obligated to give to my church even if I am having trouble paying my bills?No. We must pray and listen to our consciences and consider the needs of ourselves and our families (1 Timothy 5: when deciding how much to give. No one should feel pressured to give a certain amount of money or a certain percentage of income to a church or other ministry.Will I receive blessings if I give a donation or "seed money" to a church or ministry?No. There is no requirement in the Bible to give "seed money" to a church, preacher or ministry, and no promise that any wealth or other blessings of any kind will come as a result. Verses like Matthew 13:1-9 and 2 Corinthians 9:6-11 are sometimes cited to support requests for seed money or other donations, but the blessings promised here are spiritual blessings, not material blessings.

The Bible does urge us to be generous with our wealth and time. However, any claim that wealth, health, good fortune or other blessings will come as a result of a donation should be looked at with suspicion.

http://www.christianbiblereference.org/faq_tithe.htm

uboma:



Please list the books here.



What books has he written that fetches him so much monies to buy exotic cars for his concubines?


Please list the books here.


I am keen to see them.

If you do not listen them here, then you should hold your peace, man!

butterflyl1on:


If harry potter can sell then I see no reason why his own cannot especially when its readers believe that it holds answers to their REAL PROBLEMS unlike harry potter that is pure fiction.

smugmanuel:
Talking about tithing, you as a Christian should obey Gods commandment. Jesus spoke about tithing in Matthew 23vs23. Play your part and leave God to do the rest. Paying of tithe and giving of offerings isn’t by force but it’s a commandment.

uboma:




The comparison in your comment is faulty.

Sapiosexuality:
He couldn't even say if tithing is a Christian doctrine or a stretch of the old testament. He made some sense but I think his defense was more emotional than scriptural or even logical.

The doctor analogy doesn't hold water in this case. You don't need be a good footballer or tailor to know a good tailor or footballer. Their work will tell you about them. That line was off.

I think his statement was laced some of the properties of mischief. Tacitly attacking the guy and telling what tithe is used for. But the point should be, is tithing Christian? Is it something a Christian ought do?

Instead of focusing on the subject we are here deflecting the shots and telling tales to defend or seen to be at peace with our mentor! I've not seen a good argument against that troublesome guy's position.


http://www.mortalpoet.com/brothers-beggars-street-tithe-church/

DeRay98:


You are the one who disputed his claims to have written books, you tell us whether you searched but didn't find one.I

bloodofthelamb:


FREEZE IS A NOBODY, LIKEWISE ADEBOYE, OYEDEPO, OYAKHILOMEW, TB JOSHUA, POPE ARE ALL NOBODY WITHOUT CHRIST.

CHRIST DIED TO MAKE A NOBODY, SOMEBODY.

uboma:





You do need to up your comprehension skills.


I meant, what quality of books did he write that will fetch him so much money to maintain his luxurious lifestyle?


Are his books in the category of books classified as bestsellers?