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Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by laura8: 3:13pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
Okkk...elrufai should swerve pls���� Wehdone OBj Wehdone Yar Adaua Wehdone Gej Wehdone GMB Four presidents to complete a project� It is well with Nigeria The good thing is ..the project has been completed.. |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by seguno2: 3:13pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
erunz: Factual conclusion. 1 Like |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by seguno2: 3:16pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
FbiSegun: The hope is with Buhari and APC. It is called CHAIN-ge. 1 Like |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by Fidha254(m): 3:16pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
Bring more pictures of the stations |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by obailala(m): 3:18pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
Facts of the matter: 1. OBJ conceived the idea and signed the loan contracts. 2. GEJ paid the counterpart funds and the Chinese came in and executed the project. So in summary, going by Nigeria's political logic, GEJ is simply the one who built the Abuja to Kaduna rail. 3. PMB paid off the final compensation sums and other miscellaneous sums and commisioned the project. It is worthy of note however that with Nigeria only providing only about 47% of the total project cost at the time, PMB and other successive administrations are still the ones paying off the 53% loan chunk for the project. However, if PMB wants any of the praise (according to Nigerian political logic), then his government should try and expedite the Lagos - Ibadan track which he started. 4 Likes |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by babadee1(m): 3:21pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
Nigerians must stop praising political leaders for doing the barest minimum, as though they are doing us a favour when they fulfil their constitutional and statutory obligations. Rehabilitating old railway lines is not an achievement in my humble opinion. 3 Likes |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by seguno2: 3:22pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
deji17: Oil prices started falling in 2013. You should go back to school for lessons on how corruption includes stealing but is more than stealing. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by hefelove(m): 3:22pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
Marcelo, Modric, Sergio Ramos,Kroos, Casemiro even Benzema will do all d playing, dribbling, marking and assist and Ronaldo will just tap in and score. At the end Ronaldo will win the world best. So therefore The handwork goes to Buhari! 1 Like |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by paragon40(m): 3:24pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
Who paid for the project ?? 1 Like |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by seguno2: 3:24pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
famuchie: Why are you not applying the same logic to Jonathan, which you applied to Obasanjo? Are you a two-faced hypocrite? |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by seguno2: 3:25pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
paragon40: Jonathan paid the most money for the project as stated in the OP. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by Xtopher123(m): 3:28pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
Whoever Started and completed the Project aint our business.. We Nigerians PAID for the Project.. Is the Rail Line Working? YEs Can it be improved? ... Sure IF we have a visioned Leader |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by Nobody: 3:30pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
Okay. |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by LordAdam16: 3:33pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
famuchie: Why is that? He did not initiate the contract that was eventually used. OBJ conceived a lot of things, and Yar'Adua deserves credit for renegotiating a lot of the ill-planned disasters that OBJ hastily tried to start. That's how he started NIPP and immediately sank over $6b directly into it. Yar'Adua came and complained about the poorly-developed plan, but because of how much had been invested in it and talks from other quarters, in the end he had to add his own $5b too. GEJ came and added $8b. Do you know that same project is yet to be complete? If Yar'Adua hadn't canceled the trash OBJ signed (imaging signing a contract for a project that has no design) and then did due diligence to design a workable project from the ground up, I'm sure like the NIPP, we'd not be commissioning anything at this point. OBJ had nice ideas, but the plans were just disasters. GEJ deserves much credit for starting the project, but I'd put Yar'Adua above OBJ for setting the foundation. -Lord |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by deji17: 3:33pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
seguno2: If only you can get your basic elementary school education right, you will begin to think right. As a crumb catcher, if you can get your head around the billions stolen by GEJ and his cronies like Dieziani, you will understand that you have been seriously short changed in the amount they shared with you from their loot.. 2005 -Present Year Nominal Price 2005 $50.04 2006 $58.30 2007 $64.20 2008 $91.48 2009 $53.48 2010 $71.21 2011 $87.04 2012 $86.46 2013 $91.17 2014 $85.60 2015 $41.85 2016 $36.34 2017 (Partial)$42.74 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by LordAdam16: 3:36pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
obailala: The contracts OBJ signed was not the contract used for the actual project. OBJ's contract was trashed by Yar'Adua. Yar'Adua worked out another contract from the ground up. Read the article again. -Lord |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by aremuforlife(m): 3:36pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
I don't really think we should start asking who should be honour or who not to be honour all that really matters is that the project is fully completed. And that should be the spirit of a country. What will really need in a government is continuity irrespective of the party in government. |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by seguno2: 3:39pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
deji17: The nominal price is meaningless for this discussion. Why did the governors clamour for sharing the ECA in 2013? |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by asawanathegreat(m): 3:40pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
I don't care who started or completed d rail project, d most important thing is, we have rail that is working. 1 Like |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by Proudlyngwa(m): 3:58pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
FbiSegun: and what are you doing about it ,other than lamenting 1 Like |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by baralatie(m): 4:02pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
aremuforlife:thank you |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by obailala(m): 4:16pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
LordAdam16:OBJ originated the project, brought in the chinese and negotiated the loan deal with the Chinese EXIM bank for the Lagos to Kano standard gauge rail line of which the Abuja to Kaduna stretch is just a part if it. Whether the contract was reversed or revamped or revived or redrawn, that's inconsequential and doesnt in any way change the story. 1 Like |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by LordAdam16: 4:25pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
obailala: How is it inconsequential? If Buhari had done it, would you term it inconsequential? Give Yar'Adua his dues. He nipped a disaster in the bud. Unfortunately, his hands were tied when it came to the NIPP. I'm certain he would have axed OBJ's flawed plan, and we wouldn't have had to spend $20+b to generate 2500MW. What you termed inconsequential could have been abhorrently costly if Yar'Adua wasn't diligent. It's like saying if Buhari did due diligence on GEJ's ATA and found it to be shambolic, trashes it, then setup a workable plan. Then what Buhari did would be inconsequential. I don't know why you like to sound ret*rded. -Lord 2 Likes |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by FrancisIgya: 4:26pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
Jona started it but looting stalled its completion. Buhari is completing minus looting. Buhari therefore carries the day. 1 Like |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by Angelb4: 4:35pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
emmasege: You already have a corrupted mindset to insult someone from your speech. You didn't mention OBJ again at all. Ok, since your hero wasn't invited again, what will you do now heh? And he will be defeated in 2019 again. Salt upon injury be that 1 Like |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by sanpipita(m): 4:49pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
lies everywhere Jonathan started and completed the Abuja kd rail https://www.railway-technology.com/projects/abuja-kaduna-rail-line/#1 Can you liars show which budget Buhari used in completing it, didnt APC mock Jonathan's rail projects back then now they want to steal it as their achievement, frauds. 2 Likes |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by opribo(m): 5:02pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
This goes on to show that our so called leaders do not have deep thinking ability. When the colonial masters where here we had a working railway system which perished like other institution handed over us after we took over ownership and management. All that this politicians want is to take credit for who built and commissioned the railway just as bubu is doing now but the reality is finding out how to manage an efficient and sustainable railway system. Our problem is not to build but how to manage and maintain. Just look at a monument like the stadium in Abuja built at very huge cost without proper management plan on ground is now a ghost town. Therefore, all the dgital bla bla bla cannot be maintained by the way we are. We need an established maintenance unit nation wide for such a project. An efficient security wooven around the project. Highly trained personnel and and ticketing system in place. Not all this who built railway line argument. The same mistakes of the past still been repeated over again. The entire project should just be outsourced to a foreign expert to manage if we want to make anything of this. Not putting one bereft northern to go and warm the MD position as usual in the Nigerian style. 1 Like |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by Nobody: 5:20pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
Controversy like this are the soul reason why many projects are been abandoned in this country. I see no reason why topic like this should be raised by a reputable person like Sen: Ben Bruce. What of if President Buhari chooses to abandon the rail-way project ? 1 Like |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by lebete3000: 5:52pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
erunz: Like if you believe it's GEJ, Share if you believe it's OBJ.... 1 Like |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by princejenks(m): 6:11pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
The problem I've with this administration is that they are always quick to quote that government is a continuum when it suits their narrative but easily distance themselves when it doesn't,take the case of the confab report as an example. They are always quick to claim projects predating this administration but quick to distance themselves from the challenges and liabilities that predate this administration rather choosing blame game instead of accepting responsibility.Imagine the president who claims not to understand why oil subsidy was being paid before he got to power is now itching towards returning back to paying it in 2018,same way he's jam talking about restructuring right now,don't be surprised if him and apc give in to it before 2019 and claim it as an achievement. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Whose ‘Handiwork’ Is Kaduna-Abuja Rail? Obasanjo Or Jonathan? by obailala(m): 6:24pm On Jan 08, 2018 |
LordAdam16:Look mister, I promised myself not to ever bother engaging you on this forum anymore cos I realised you are nothing but a troll. So kindly carry on; you win, I lose, OBJ didnt initiate the railway modernisation masterplan, and he never negotiated any deal with the Exim Bank, Yaradua initiated it all... Bye! 1 Like |
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