But is our argument about him paying them same or higher salaries?

I started by saying he should work towards bringing some of the players from Feirense to Remo stars if they make it back to the NPFL, but you resorted by saying it can't be done in Nigeria cos no Nigerian club can pay them and went ahead talking about other negative stuff.

The point is that he can sign any player he wants and will pay them well too because he can. Will the players come? I don't know, but can he pay them more than $500 or whatever he's currently paying them in Feirense? YES!

tbaba1234:


You are missing the point. A player earning 500 dollars a week in portugal will not come to Nigeria and earn the same amount. He will only do so if his pay is increased significantly. That is the only incentive that you can offer them to come.

This means the club owner will have to increase his wage bill if he wants to bring players here. Players that will not be worth that much in portugal.

He can pay them if it makes business sense to him!

tbaba1234:


It was not Ramon Azeez, It was Reuben Gabriel... We lost the midfield after Onazi's injury and it was just a matter of time

Okay, if it was Reuben Gabriel then I think he should be invited; If his current form is good enough. Eyaema is to be blamed for that lose

tbaba1234:
Uduokhai actual quotes

"I have not been to Nigeria often yet, but I talk a lot about it with my dad, and have kinship there. That's where my roots lie, it's important to me to stay on the wire. "The Nigerian federation has already pretended to Uduokhai, the player himself holds the decision open. "Of course, the German national team is the non plus ultra in world football, but also Nigeria is well staffed. Currently, I'm really open to both sides, "

so we can still get the lad afterall....
God bless the day nff appoint rohr for the super eagles job...

should this team pose a great surprise come next world cup and a good CAN outing afterwards....
Rohr should be given national honours and reward wit a Nigeria citizenship

Teekim:

Okay, if it was Reuben Gabriel then I think he should be invited; If his current form is good enough. Eyaema is to be blamed for that lose

you are talking of way back 4 years ago....
if you must know...how he makes the world cup team that year still a mystery only God knows....

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has explained why he played Alex Iwobi in the goalless draw at Chelsea on Wednesday, January 10.
Iwobi played the whole 90 minutes as Arsenal held Chelsea to a goalless draw in the first leg of the League Cup semi-final.

The Nigeria international was a surprise addition to the starting XI following revelations that he partied a night before the FA Cup defeat to Nottingham Forest on Sunday, January 7.

Wenger, however, insists that he started the player because he could help the team.
“ It is one thing to punish someone individually and the second thing to punish everybody,” Wenger said after the game.
“ If I think he can help the team to win it has nothing to do with the fact that he can be punished separately and individually. ”

See Also: Arsene Wenger urges Arsenal to avenge 4-0 Anfield humiliation
Recall that Iwobi was caught partying into the early morning of Saturday, January 6 before the game against Forest.

The 21-year-old played the entire 90 minutes of the game and struggled all through.
Wenger branded his behaviour ‘unacceptable’ and revealed that the player will be fined.
“ It was not the night before the game. It was 48 hours. But it’s not acceptable, I will speak to him about it. If that is true he will be fined ,” Wenger said.


https://www.davinadiaries.com/arsenal-manager-explains-why-alex-iwobi-played-against-chelsea/

somehow:
But is our argument about him paying them same or higher salaries?

I started by saying he should work towards bringing some of the players from Feirense to Remo stars if they make it back to the NPFL, but you resorted by saying it can't be done in Nigeria cos no Nigerian club can pay them and went ahead talking about other negative stuff.

The point is that he can sign any player he wants and will pay them well too because he can. Will the players come? I don't know, but can he pay them more than $500 or whatever he's currently paying them in Feirense? YES!

He can pay them if it makes business sense to him!

And my point was that there is no incentive for the players to come..

Humility017:

you are talking of way back 4 years ago....
if you must know...how he makes the world cup team that year still a mystery only God knows....

Okay, but another good midfielder in the like of Mikel will be great.

Teekim:
Okay, but another good midfielder in the like of Mikel will be great.

we have none of his kind for now...except Joel obi who came close...but always prune to injuries...sokari is still good though...

Omo this one wey Leicester wan keep faith with Nacho, how the guy go come take get playing time now The coach might not want to utilize Nacho, but the management will never sell or loan him out this season except they get a super offer and the way things are ain't nobody going to offer a sweet deal to incite them.

Tragic story, Wilson Oruma was defrauded of 1.2 billion and has suffered a relapse of an emotional breakdown.

Teekim:
Am not good with knowing the Nigerian players, but in our game against France, a certain Ramom Azeez came on for Onazi when he got the ankel knock. We lost the the game some minutes later and most Nigerian fans attributed the lose to onazi not being on the pitch but if the truth be told; Enyaema gifted France the win on that day and it had nothing much to do with Onazi's absence. Well, I loved the holding of the ball and the passes in center of the pitch when Ramon Azeez came in, but I don't know if his current form is good enough for SE.

John Ogu and Ramon Azeez will be a good add up to Mikel and Onazi in the center of the pitch. That's if Ramon's current form is good enough.

Is like you are not getting this.No matter how good a goal-keeper or defence is , a poor mid-field will expose them and make them look average or even poor.

The game is won and lost in the middle.

France identified Onazi's input to super Eagles mid-field and sought to eliminate him.Even after the match their coach even said"I watched the Eagles previous matches and observed that Onazi contributes more than Mikel, I told my players, if we are to win this match you must pay special attention to Onazi"He also said he never told them to maim Onazi.

I believe that the nff and ex team-mates can assist Oruma by getting him a psychologist to deal with his issues and get him on his feet again.

ykalhaji:
Omo this one wey Leicester wan keep faith with Nacho, how the guy go come take get playing time now The coach might not want to utilize Nacho, but the management will never sell or loan him out this season except they get a super offer and the way things are ain't nobody going to offer a sweet deal to incite them.

the Leicester management does not have sense. How will anybody buy a player they don't see in action?

If you want to sell a player badly, give him games and advertise him to the world. Nobody will buy a player from you for a good amount if you aren't even using the player

Teekim:

Okay, if it was Reuben Gabriel then I think he should be invited; If his current form is good enough. Eyaema is to be blamed for that lose

good Lord!

tbaba1234:
Tragic story, Wilson Oruma was defrauded of 1.2 billion and has suffered a relapse of an emotional breakdown.

Read this news some where earlier.

So pathetic how a Full blooded Warri man go fall mugu for a so called man of God.

N1.2 Billion now is a huge sum talk more of way back 2012 when this happened.

I feel for this man. See how he has even aged. A 41/42 years old man looking 70.

The once great Wilson Oruma. Chai!

safarigirl:
the Leicester management does not have sense. How will anybody buy a player they don't see in action?

If you want to sell a player badly, give him games and advertise him to the world. Nobody will buy a player from you for a good amount if you aren't even using the player

they Will later lick their sores...should nancho leave leicester to get regular play elsewhere....
I believe in his abilities anyday..anytime.
a regular playtime will bring out the best in him...
Leicester are walking on a tight rope...

EEGA:
Is like you are not getting this.No matter how good a goal-keeper or defence is , a poor mid-field will expose them and make them look average or even poor.

The game is won and lost in the middle.

France identified Onazi input to super Eagles mid-field and sought to eliminate him.Even after the match their coach even said"I watched the Eagles previous matches and observed that Onazi contributes more than Mikel, I told my players, if we are to win this match you must pay special attention to Onazi"He also said he never told them to maim Onazi.

I slightly agree with you, but the goal didn't come from a build up in the midfield. I was from a cross when Enyaema was out of position.

Anyways, we should look at getting a replacement for Mikel just incase something goes wrong.

If Sokari is good enough then let's invite for our next friendly game

Icon4s:


Read this news some where earlier.

So pathetic how a Full blooded Warri man go fall mugu for a so called man of God.

N1.2 Billion now is a huge sum talk more of way back 2002 when this happened.

I feel for this man. See how he has even aged. A 41/42 years old man looking 70.

The once great Wilson Oruma. Chai!

Some of these 419 guys can be very convincing with their narrative.

His life savings gone in an instant.. All of the hard-work.

I was wondering where Oruma was, not knowing that he is in this kind of state.

Seriously, a lot can be done to help him. I remember Aaron Lennon had a break-down but is back on his feet now.

I hope he gets some help.

goldfish80:


Being grade A doesn't mean defensively solid. They were totally out of shape in the 2nd half. I would think they went gongho and played to our hands.

Arsenal for instance is a grade A team but against Nottingham, they couldn't maintain any defensive shape and they got tanked 4:2. Being grade A means little in this context.


African teams are mostly physical. They are not famous for playing organised football. Egypt and Morocco are the 2 teams that is a total departure from African football in terms of organisation and structure on the pitch.

This is double standard down there.

It is becoming clearer by the minute where your allegiance lies.

In one minute you were caught saying we haven't played any Grade A team with a solid defense,,but when called out about Argentina, you quickly downplayed their loss to us. I bet, if we had lost that particular friendly match, your statement would have read...

"we were scoring with ease against weak opponents but when we met Grade A team with a solid defense like Argentina, we lost or we couldn't score"

Many members here have been on your case all week concerning the way you berate both our players and the SE as a whole. You have never said anything good about them, it has been from one complain to the other about them without profering a single solution to the problems you highlighted.

You see, when I make accusations against you and people like you on this thread that you guys have hidden agendas against the SE, you all feel slighted.

I mean, isn't it obvious from the way you all talk from both sides of your mouth?.... Whenever we lose or play badly, you all spring forth from wherever you are hiding at to insult our players and find fault at will. Regardless of the opposition.

But whenever we win even against a big team, you all will rather downplay our win rather than congratulate the boys. If that isn't double standards then I wonder what it is

Your type, even if we qualified for the quarter finals of the world Cup this year.., it will be either a fluke or that tournament itself is poor, or that all the teams we met gave us a leeway!

You guys are a lost cause

Your motive for being here is getting clearer by the day but God pass una

Wetin. Una day find, Una no go see

safarigirl:
the Leicester management does not have sense. How will anybody buy a player they don't see in action?

If you want to sell a player badly, give him games and advertise him to the world. Nobody will buy a player from you for a good amount if you aren't even using the player

The management might soon tell the coach to try his best to include Nacho, because they are about to offload Slimani and ullao, so Nacho might have more opportunities and that 110k per week money they are paying Nacho is not a joke. Slimani is worth more than Nacho because at least Slimani has proven himself at club level before coming to Leciester while Nacho is still "potential" when it comes to club level performance and with his recent form and luck most clubs that will bid will be bidding with ridiculous low ball offers.

Teekim:
I slightly agree with you, but the goal didn't come from a build up in the midfield. I was from a cross when Enyaema was out of position.

Anyways, we should look at getting a replacement for Mikel just incase something goes wrong.

If Sokari is good enough then let's invite for our next friendly game

Sokari wetin abeg please that guy should not come and put his selfishness to affect the present good rapport in the team. That guy bleeped up our U21 world cup chances back in 2015 with his selfish plays. This reminds me again, EPL coaches have been messing Nacho up ever since, I remember Pelligrini did not release Nacho early for that tournament or for the African tourney too and Pep denying him the chance to represent Nigeria at the Olympics.

tbaba1234:
Tragic story, Wilson Oruma was defrauded of 1.2 billion and has suffered a relapse of an emotional breakdown.

I'm just trying to check if nobody posted it... It is very disheartening to see this kind of news... Before it was Eboue now Wilson oruma...

Even heard about chidi Odia to doing cab driver in US...

I'm just very sad since I saw the news

Just pray well meaning Nigeria will come to his aid especially NFF to help him out...
God will heal him and heal his broken heart...

tbaba1234:
I believe that the nff and ex team-mates can assist Oruma by getting him a psychologist to deal with his issues and get him on his feet again.

Even some ex internationals are suffering in corner cos we have heard their news our current players need good orientation and financial education cos their career is so short like speed of light...

Icon4s:


Read this news some where earlier.

So pathetic how a Full blooded Warri man go fall mugu for a so called man of God.

N1.2 Billion now is a huge sum talk more of way back 2002 when this happened.

I feel for this man. See how he has even aged. A 41/42 years old man looking 70.

The once great Wilson Oruma. Chai!

Lost to two set of people.. Pastor and some fake Oil contractors...

Most of this althetes need alot of education and give time to reading on financial education.. It will help them alot...

Just that we don't have good platform here in Nigeria...

Mickael2:



good Lord!

Holy moses!!!!

So LMC and NTA just used scope to whine our heart by telling us they will air 10 matches weekly...

It is very funny they will be showing only one match I mean just one out of 10 matches this weekend... This is not cool at all..

What's the difference between the deal of supersport and NTA...

If you have startimes...

Teekim:

Okay, if it was Reuben Gabriel then I think he should be invited; If his current form is good enough. Eyaema is to be blamed for that lose

In honor of "Good lord!" And "Holy Moses!!!" Chaaaiiiiii.....

Young african players should be educated on how to manage money. It could help prevent what has happened to Eboue and Oruma.

komekn:


I am now at total loss as to what you are trying to convey, it is muddled and you are saying everything but saying nothing specifically.

Dud you read my contribution I do not think so.

Players assessment and selection will always reflect club requirements.

You will start of with your base data which are physical attributes, speed, jump rate, strength, stamina, etc

However, for established players those stats are already reflected and established on the field of play. For instance we already know Sane, Dembele, Mbappe have blistering pace.

The other things like decision making, passing range, ball control, goal ratios, skill sets, etc, etc. will be made from game observation. either live and or video footage.

For instance I send only footage clips of individual games not a mix of games into one video because it's easily contrived otherwise.

The next thing which you call subjective but us objective in my opinion. Is CONTEXT. Playing in a lower less competitive and intense league like the Eredivisie means scoring 20 goals can not be on par with scoring 20 goals in the EPL. That's not subjective bot objective.

The Bundesliga is almost a one league team for near two decades has been dominated by one team Bayern Munich. That leaves a big gulf between Bayern and every other team in the Bundesliga.

In the EPL you do not have that gap over the past two decades there have been about 5/6 teams jostling for superiority. That's the competitive outstanding quality of the EPL.

Then consider the Championship we have teams regularly beating EPL teams in the Cup games. In this regard it's informed projection to say that once you take out Bayern Munich the and consider the lower half of the Bundesliga they are not on par with the EPL.

My opinion is that the championship is on par with the lower half if not better than the lower half of the Bundesliga.

I take interest in English football and a perfunctory interest in European football. I did go to Germany, Spain, Belguim, Holland and Portugal to watch matches last year. But it's just now and again.

I don't have to watch every league and if I wanted too I simply do not have the time. To make myself balanced. I watched UEFA Champions league and cup competitions even the youth ones. So I am not singular and parochial in my view.

To give credence to my view I substantiated it with external authoritative reference points. So I am.not like you Self made up and self based analysis.

You have been making this statement for so long now it is almost turning into a song. Someone have to call you to order before it becomes a clique.

Your constant ego show boating of Epl & Championship over the Bundesliga is spurious.

The results of both Leagues from the Europa League is there for everyone to compare. When was the last time an Epl team outside the big 6 beat a German club in the Europa?... How well have English clubs performed in the Europa barring Man U who won it last season?

Now compare also how many times Bayern Munich won against the Epl big 6 each time they met in the Champions League.

I bet you don't know

Because if you knew, you wouldn't be here lieing to our face about how apart from Bayern Munich, all other clubs in the Bundesliga are below to both the second half of the Epl and even to the championship teams as well.

You might want to type your next argument with stats while I bring mine.

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Unveiling of new jersey

tbaba1234:
Young african players should be educated on how to manage money. It could help prevent what has happened to Eboue and Oruma.

And chidi Odia!