Plolly:

I can if only he would agree to let me keep practicing my faith and beliefs and also not to enforce his faith and beliefs on the kids we good to go

who is the man of the house? Am an atheist and i don't wish to marry crazy religious people

Chikita66:
No I can't, why should I date an atheist, am I mad?

low level theist. Do you think an atheist will marry low thinking lady like you? Just pray you see an husband on time or you might end up not getting married

segunojo866:
low level theist. Do you think an atheist will marry low thinking lady like you? Just pray you see an husband on time or you might end up not getting married

I will see husband, I ain't gat no worries, but e pain you sha.

hopefulLandlord:


The key part of my question is how do you draw the line between advice and force?

if my husband agrees me taking them to church when underage I will but when they have come of age I will advice them then they are left to make a choice themselves

segunojo866:
who is the man of the house? Am an atheist and i don't wish to marry crazy religious people

Ok

segunojo866:
lolz Delusion

Proudgorgeousga:


or maybe they won't flee. the bar is low for men. If my weird ass uncle can find someone to marry then..... and it's not as if he is rich.

it's a different ballgame for ladies tho

I'd definitely agree ladies have it worse, but men don't have it as easy as you think. Most Nigerians react with shock anytime you tell them you're atheist. When I was in school, I particularly enjoyed making the reveal to would-be preachers invading my privacy and it was usually effective in shutting them down.

Chikita66:
I will see husband, I ain't gat no worries, but e pain you sha.

lolx
At least i don't have the fear of hell fire like you

I have no issue with that, just as long as he doesn't have other alternative beliefs like Satanism etc.

I believe in free thinking & living a life not influenced by outside forces. So if that's how he chooses to live his life, fine. But he must not try to impose his thoughts & lifestyle on me or try to humiliate me for my own. Finish.That's the only instance it wouldn't work for me.

segunojo866:
lolx
At least i don't have the fear of hell fire like you

Its a free world, I choose to be religious and you choose to be a free thinker, don't try to impose your ideology on me, it can't work.

Obi1kenobi:
My last 2 relationships broke down because of my beliefs (or rather, my unbelief). Most painful was during my service year. I really did like that lady. Smart and funny and totally adorable.
She still couldn't deal with someone who was a skeptic. I once went out with her and her friends and they spent most of the time quizzing me on my unbelief. It sounded no different to them than telling them I was a Satanic cult devotee. I could just imagine when I wasn't in their presence, what they'd all be saying about me to her.

I meet a lot of skeptics and atheists online, but I've rarely ever met one in the real world in Nigeria. In my whole lifetime, only twice have I encountered people who identified as irreligious and they were both men. This means it's pretty much certain I'd have to get married to a religious person: and probably a devout one. What mortifies me is I might have to live a lie (which I already do with my parents) just so that all those ladies who desire "god-fearing men" won't flee immediately they encounter me.

Dont mind the hypocrites.

They all desire men who re rich and god fearing, yet want to be fucccked hard contrary to gods law.

Plolly:

if my husband agrees me taking them to church when underage I will but when they have come of age I will advice them then they are left to make a choice themselves

If he does, would you also agree with him taking them to Freethinker's meetings?

XhosaNostra:
I have no issue with that, just as long as he doesn't have other alternative beliefs like Satanism etc.

I believe in free thinking & living a life not influenced by outside forces. So if that's how he chooses to live his life, fine. But he must not try to impose his thoughts & lifestyle on me or try to humiliate me for my own. Finish.That's the only instance it wouldn't work for me.

Nice! how do you handle your children though? in the event you marry him

hopefulLandlord:

Nice! how do you handle your children though? in the event you marry him

I'd give them the same freedom I give myself & everyone else- freedom of choice.

When I was younger, in my childhood, there were certain things that were forced on me, like going to church daily. OK, it wasn't a bad idea, but at times I wished it wasn't so "all up in my face". As a result of that, now as an adult, I have a rebellious streak towards religion & anything that attempts to tell me how I should live my life. In my mind I believe there's a connection between force & rebellion. Hence I'd give my children as much room to breathe as possible.

XhosaNostra:


I'd give them the same freedom I give myself & everyone else- freedom of choice.

When I was younger, in my childhood, there were certain things that were forced on me, like going to church daily. OK, it wasn't a bad idea, but at times I wished it wasn't so "all up in my face". As a result of that, now as an adult, I have a rebellious streak towards religion & anything that attempts to tell me how I should live my life. In my mind I believe there's a connection between force & rebellion. Hence I'd give my children as much room to breathe as possible.

okay, that's fair enough and intelligent but you know that actually goes against biblical teachings of "train up a child in the way he should go?" do you agree with me that if everyone is allowed to grow to a reasonable age of maturity before telling them about how they're sinners and some Jew died for them, there would be a lot less religious people?

how do you handle this dilemma?

hopefulLandlord:


okay, that's fair enough and intelligent but you know that actually goes against biblical teachings of "train up a child in the way he should go?" do you agree with me that if everyone is allowed to grow to a reasonable age of maturity before telling them about how they're sinners and some Jew died for them, there would be a lot less religious people?

how do you handle this dilemma?

I'd just teach them good values, humanity etc, but nothing to do with religion, because I truly believe that religion & one's relationship with God should be a personal choice. I don't wanna raise sheep.

XhosaNostra:


I'd just teach them good values, humanity etc, but nothing to do with religion, because I truly believe that religion & one's relationship with God should be a personal choice. I don't wanna raise sheep.

Interesting

But like I said, this goes against what the Bible says....... the story of Eli for instance shows this and Psalms also made it clear that that one should start "sheeping" them at a very young age. Jesus also said the little children should come unto him

If the psalms for instance were true and you raise a child without religion, then there's a good chance he/she may just chose to be without religion as you've trained him up without it. also, would you be comfortable with your children being agnostic knowing they would end up in hell?

I know the last part is an emotional question but its still on topic and reasonable

hopefulLandlord:


Interesting

But like I said, this goes against what the Bible says....... the story of Eli for instance shows this and Psalms also made it clear that that one should start "sheeping" them at a very young age. Jesus also said the little children should come unto him

If the psalms for instance were true and you raise a child without religion, then there's a good chance he/she may just chose to be without religion. also, would you be comfortable with your children being agnostic knowing they would end up in hell?

LOL! The difference between you & I is, you look for guidance in the scriptures, whereas, I choose to follow my intuition/moral compass. IMO, not being religious doesn't automatically make a person amoral. You can still have a clear conscious & a good heart if you treat the world around you with the same respect you'd like given to you. I believe we're all born with the ability to know the difference between right & wrong. Just stay on the right path & be good to others, that should be the motto of life. If you still go to hell after that, then oh well.

[i][/i][color=#550000][/color]Yes na whats the big deal there..just as long as there i love and trust ;DYes na whats the big deal there..just as long as there i love and trust

hopefulLandlord:


If he does, would you also agree with him taking them to Freethinker's meetings?

yes I can it would help the kids decide what they want

Plolly:
yes I can it would help the kids decide what they want

Fair enough

XhosaNostra:


LOL! The difference between you & I is, you look for guidance in the scriptures, whereas, I choose to follow my intuition/moral compass. IMO, not being religious doesn't automatically make a person amoral. You can still have a clear conscious & a good heart if you treat the world around you with the same respect you'd like given to you. I believe we're all born with the ability to know the difference between right & wrong. Just stay on the right path & be good to others, that should be the motto of life. If you still go to hell after that, then oh well.

I'm an atheist

hopefulLandlord:


Fair enough

I don't really like typing much words would have given u a long epistle. This is one of the reasons I wish nairaland has a way we could send VN

hopefulLandlord:


I'm an atheist

OK

So what was the pulpit moment all about?

XhosaNostra:

OK
So what was the pulpit moment all about?

I used it to scrutinise your stand

hopefulLandlord:


I used it to scrutinise your stand

What have you concluded?

Plolly:

I don't really like typing much words would have given u a long epistle. This is one of the reasons I wish nairaland has a way we could send VN

You mean voice note?

I thought you can attach an audio file to your posts? though I haven't tried it

XhosaNostra:

What have you concluded?

That you're a liberal Christian

hopefulLandlord:


That you're a liberal Christian

LOL! OK.

I don't like to limit my spiritual beliefs on any particular religion or "movement" though, because I believe in many things. So yes, I'm liberal in that sense. But unlike you, I believe in a higher power I have reasons to, so I'm not basing my beliefs on fairytales & hearsay.

hopefulLandlord:


You mean voice note?

I thought you can attach an audio file to your posts? though I haven't tried it

I'm not sure bout that

Plolly:

I'm not sure bout that

Give it a shot, you've got nothing to lose and I'll learn of it works or not, all you need do is record your voice, attach the file as a post here

greiboy:
So it proves my point that they are Antichrist, simply because atheism is not only directed towards Christianity, but any form of religion

A true atheist should speak against all religion.

Hope you now see why countering my initial post makes no sense because you just agreed with my observations

they're deceiving themselves.

they don't believe in divine beings and the supernatural yet they can't muster up courage to condemn islam the same way they condemn christians.

even seun himself favours muslims against christians. before you chat in a muslim thread you must swear an oath of servitude to allah and mohammed; but you get a free pass to chat in any christian threads.