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Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by stev10(m): 9:15pm On Feb 16, 2018
Op you are so very much on point.I wanted to write something similar to this and post on my Facebook wall,but I guess I will just copy and paste *smiles*.
Back to the topic on ground:
When you go to Libya,their highest currency is 50 Dinars and they use coins.Though their economy is a mess right now but I think it's due to the fact that the country has been without a president for the past 6-7 years now.During the time of Gaddafi 1 dollar was equal 1 dinar.
Go to Niger they have 10,000 cefar note,with that I believe you know how the country is.
Nigeria government should just discontinue using the 1000,500 and 200 naira notes and just stick to the 100,50,20 and 10 naira,and the use of coins should be reestablished.
To even think that the former government wanted to print a 5000 naira note,God!
Nigeria would have been in a deeper shithole than this current one had the past government succeeded.
BTW: I was wondering how much the snake would have successfully swallowed...








Billions!!!
Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by buffalowings4: 9:19pm On Feb 16, 2018
nelklyn:


Japan economy is export dependent and they have to make their products affordable hence they take it upon themselves to devalue their currency against other currencies especially the USD through the BoJ's constant intervention in the foreign exchange market plus their interest rate is negative -0.10% to further encourage borrowing.

In fact one of the core aims of the BoJ is to achieve price stability keeping the Yen at a Limit Low and High, thus a currency's exchange rate cannot be used to measure the performance of an economy.

As you pointed out 1NGN is not equal to 1JPY they won't allow that, I mean Nigeria is not even among their trade partners
Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by Intrepid01(m): 9:20pm On Feb 16, 2018
Samleen:


Japanish Yen JPY  (  1 JPY = 3.4020 NGN  )
Banknotes ¥1000, ¥2000, ¥5000, ¥10,000
Coins ¥1, ¥5, ¥10, ¥50, ¥100, ¥500



 1 USD = 105.8455 JPY

Sir, alway check your facts before you make your comments.



When did the poor performing NGN become a stardard of measure of performance for other currency?

If 1JPY = 1 NGN, like you wrote, then the both currencies are poor performing and you should retract your statement of classifying Japanish Yen as part of top performing currencies in the world.

The only point you have is the import/export ratio which has helped the Japanish Yen to perform better than the NGN. It in a way nullify the effect of presence of the high face value e.g. 10,000 JYP currency Notes.

Bros, you really tried with your write up and I was relaxed when I saw that Caveat emptor...that guy you quoted and some other guys up there have said it all...if you read their write up carefully , you'll realise they were speaking from the position of undertanding rather than the position of 'mere observation'....you need to understand the difference between the 'face value'and 'purchasing value' of a currency.......

In as much as what you wrote as solution will improve the naira it won't have any significant impovement as you thought, until this fundamental factors mentioned by some writers up there are done.

You should also note thatthe biggest monetary corruption happening in Nigeria is largely "electronic" ...the days of "Ghana must go" is gradually phasing out. so no matter the size of the money to be shared, your denominations will be of no effect.

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Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by obstead200(m): 9:21pm On Feb 16, 2018
Ken4Christ:


I do not agree. It will only limit looting but it will have no effect on the exchange rate. The countries you made references to didn't have a terrible economy like Nigeria does.

The major reason why out currency is low in values is because Nigeria is not a producing country. We import virtually everything.

If we want our currency value to appreciate, what we should do is;

1. Ensure all our refineries are working. It will save us lots of foreign exchange.

2. We need an industrial revolution.

3. We need to invest more in Agriculture.

4. Every local government chairman should be productive rather than administrative.

5. Corruption should be punished.

6. Our tax system should be made more effective.

7. Out railway should be developed to reduce cost of transportation of food items.

8. Our borders should be closed. If possible, fence the country round.

Export should exceed import if our currency must appreciate. After all these is done, then we can take away the high currency notes.
I wanted to ignore the op because of his stark ignorance of basic macro economics. Thank God u came to the rescue and made sense.

Case closed. U said it all

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Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by obstead200(m): 9:24pm On Feb 16, 2018
Intrepid01:


Bros, you really tried with your write up and I was relaxed when I saw that Caveat emptor...that guy you quoted and some other guys up there have said it all...if you read their write up carefully , you'll realise they were speaking from the position of undertanding rather than the position of 'mere observation'....you need to understand the difference between the 'face value'and 'purchasing value' of a currency.......

In as much as what you wrote as solution will improve the naira it won't have any significant impovement as you thought, until this fundamental factors mentioned by some writers up there are done.

You should also note thatthe biggest monetary corruption happening in Nigeria is largely "electronic" ...the days of "Ghana must go" is gradually phasing out. so no matter the size of the money to be shared, your denominations will be of no effect.
Bros u go school. Kudos to u. Me no even get strength to educate the op
Don't mind him. His economics teacher probably studied Hausa language

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Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by humilitynike: 9:28pm On Feb 16, 2018
I love this, personally I have thought of this and if our government can take this advice.. is a way forward
Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by buffalowings4: 9:29pm On Feb 16, 2018
nextstep:
Nice one and a decent argument, except of course that there are also strong economies with high denominations:
Japan: 10,000 Yen
Europe: 500 Euros
India: 1,000 Rupees
Russia: 5,000 Rubles
Korea: 50,000 Won
Mexico: 1,000 Pesos

As Ken4Christ said: "The major reason why out currency is low in values is because Nigeria is not a producing country. We import virtually everything."

All our troubles - even corruption stems from this. The only way for most people to get stupendously wealthy in Nigeria is control/contact with virtually the only source of foreign exchange - oil. And since it's so easy to control oil money when you're in government...

By the time we buy anything, so much value has been added by the manufacturing countries, with zero-multiplier effect in Nigeria the consumer. Everybody in the value chain in China (for instance) adds their profit and circulates the money within the country several times. In Nigeria's case, oil is exchanged for consumer goods and there's no circulation of that money once it leaves.

Nobody in Nigeria benefited from owning a lithium mine, or a smelting plant, or slurry making, or machine tooling, or anode production, or casing, or assembly or even the packaging industry that benefited from that battery being made and sold. So a Nigerian consumer comes in and with oil money (at the very low end of the value chain), buys a battery (at the very high end of the value chain). There's NO WAY your currency would get strong, no matter the denominations.

The other oil countries on the list that appear prosperous are artificially so because they have much more oil per capita than we do. If Nigeria had as much oil as Saudi Arabia (it has about 1/4 the production), it would still need to use that for is much larger population (6 times as many people), which means no matter what, based solely on money earned from oil, individual Nigerian buying power can only be 1/24 that of a Saudi. It's even more skewed if you consider Qatar (less than 3 million people).
Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by stev10(m): 9:32pm On Feb 16, 2018
Intrepid01:


Bros, you really tried with your write up and I was relaxed when I saw that Caveat emptor...that guy you quoted and some other guys up there have said it all...if you read their write up carefully , you'll realise they were speaking from the position of undertanding rather than the position of 'mere observation'....you need to understand the difference between the 'face value'and 'purchasing value' of a currency.......

In as much as what you wrote as solution will improve the naira it won't have any significant impovement as you thought, until this fundamental factors mentioned by some writers up there are done.

You should also note thatthe biggest monetary corruption happening in Nigeria is largely "electronic" ...the days of "Ghana must go" is gradually phasing out. so no matter the size of the money to be shared, your denominations will be of no effect.

You get point o!

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Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by ohosi4real(m): 9:32pm On Feb 16, 2018
Thanks i hard you
Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by Junior66(m): 9:34pm On Feb 16, 2018
Samleen:


You raised some points too but

What I wrote up there is just a basic truth!

Ok, why do other african countries with poorer socio-political and business development have better performing currency than what we have here in Nigeria?

You are making one very basic mistake. You have gotten the direction of causality wrong. When our currency gets damaged like it is right now govt will print large value currency. Government prints large current notes because the purchasing power of the currency has fallen, it is not the printing of large value money that brings the value of the currency down. once you understand this point you will have realised that you have no point. The point you raised is not even a factor that affects the value of money. Some posters above knowledge of economics have come up with good points, you should consider them.
Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by buffalowings4: 9:35pm On Feb 16, 2018
Cromagnon:
God has helped you
the land is green
rain is falling
sun is shining
enter farm
Fulani on rampage shocked
Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by Junior66(m): 9:37pm On Feb 16, 2018
Bevista:
@OP, you are erroneously comparing currency strength based based on their numerical value. Nothing could be further from the truth. Currency value is determined by their purchasing power, which is a reflection of the overall health of the economy.
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Are you suggesting that the Ghanaian Cedi is more valuable than the Japanese Yen, simply because it has a lower comparative numerical value?
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Higher denominations do not cause a currency to weaken, but rather weak currencies (with low purchasing power) causes the need for higher denominations. Solve the weak currency and the need for higher denominations disappears. You solve the problem of weak currency by increasing productivity, having a positive trade balance (export more than imports), etc.
Exactly what I told him.
Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by buffalowings4: 9:38pm On Feb 16, 2018
Intrepid01:


Bros, you really tried with your write up and I was relaxed when I saw that Caveat emptor...that guy you quoted and some other guys up there have said it all...if you read their write up carefully , you'll realise they were speaking from the position of undertanding rather than the position of 'mere observation'....you need to understand the difference between the 'face value'and 'purchasing value' of a currency.......

In as much as what you wrote as solution will improve the naira it won't have any significant impovement as you thought, until this fundamental factors mentioned by some writers up there are done.
"
You should also note thatthe biggest monetary corruption happening in Nigeria is largely "electronic
...the days of "Ghana must go" is gradually phasing out. so no matter the size of the money to be shared, your denominations will be of no effect.

Can you explain this?
Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by Cuteamigo1(m): 9:39pm On Feb 16, 2018
Mhyketh:
we can copy the asian tigers, they had worse economy, like ours but adopted a system that has been able to rank them among worlds stable economy now, but i seriously think we lack will power, i mean power to do. Nigerian are naturally psychologically lazy. We don't want to think to solve our own problems.
i love your last paragraph. the only thing we know how to do is to pray against our problems. imagine if young vibrant Nigerians have a platform to carryout a convention occasionally to discuss problems like this, am sure alot of solutions would have been generated but again the dinosaurs in power wouldn't have known how to implement it. i drop my pen here.

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Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by buffalowings4: 9:40pm On Feb 16, 2018
Finally, a cerebral topic on front page?
Mynd, lala
Una weldone
Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by Didi2d(m): 9:41pm On Feb 16, 2018
bloodmoneyspita:
there's no 100 naira right now and things hasn't changed, the CBN has silently withdrawn 100 naira in case you guys don't Kno.

I have noticed!!!
The 100 naira note I have with me now are like shit!!
Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by karlboss: 9:50pm On Feb 16, 2018
I can't even buy anything at the market again
Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by Ucbiu(m): 9:51pm On Feb 16, 2018
If this naira dollar of a thin will not work,
Let's kukuma change to cryptocurrency
Bitcoin litecoin ethrium ripple etc grin
Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by Enigma1000: 9:51pm On Feb 16, 2018
Samabu07:

You deserve a space in the Nigerian Economy team. Thank you for this analysis.
Who deserves the place? Such economy ll rapidly crash. Someone who doesn't even understand the problem not to talk of solution. With those things written that can not correlate.

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Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by Junior66(m): 9:57pm On Feb 16, 2018
Tggabby:
This is simple truth but the Honourable members may not agree as it will result to bad market for them but God will bury alive as many that refused to let Nigeria be lifted in Jesus Name.
You and the OP should stop disgracing us. Both of you should go pick a textbook on Monetary economics and stop embarrassing us.
Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by Notatribalist(m): 9:58pm On Feb 16, 2018
Samleen:


Ghana currency GHS ( 1 GHS = 80.4096 NGN )
Banknotes GH₵1, 2, 5, 10, 20, 50
Coins 1, 5, 10, 20, 50Gp, GH₵1

what's the excuse? Ghana currency is still performing better than wht we have here in Nigeria


compare this:

1 USD = 4.4770 GHS vs

1 USD = 360.500 NGN

its not by paper value, but the purchasing power purity.. Are you aware what 80naira can buy in Nigeria 1ghana CEDI's can't buy it here?I am in Ghana so I know what I am talking about
Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by OneKinGuy(m): 10:02pm On Feb 16, 2018
pcicero:



A very good head you have on your body. Ori e wa'nbe.

Our problem is that most of our elected leaders do not really have what it takes in terms of knowledge of micro and macro economic theories to take the country higher.

Even when they are surrounded by the best brains in the world as Special assistants/advisers who are often mirred in needless bureaucratic arrangements with the largely incompetent civil service, the result is the backward growth we are experiencing as a nation.

Oftentimes, I wonder if our leaders are truly patriotic.

By the way, I learnt somewhere that in most cases, the directors of finance always end up as Permanent secretaries because they usually have access to more than enough funds to grease their ways to the top.

It is also without gainsaying that our worst always find their ways into the civil service.



Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by profstar(m): 10:02pm On Feb 16, 2018
omokoladejames:
Like what Ken4Christ said, even if the government stops printing higher denominations, that would not make the naira strong.

What can make the naira strong is if its purchasing power increases. There are more than one factor that increases the purchasing power of a currency but one of the major factors is increase in the productivity level of the country. In simple terms if the productivity level of a country increases, the demand for money will increase thereby causing prices within the country to fall and the purchasing power of the money to increase but this is only valid if the supply of money does not increase.

So even if the government removes 1000 naira from the system but they continue printing 100 naira like say na water, that would not stop the person in the market from charging 15,000 naira from me, it would only mean i would have to carry a lot of 100 naira with me.

But imagine if it becomes alot easier and more profitable to grow rice in Nigeria(by government initiative,technology etc), more people will start growing rice, also if the price of the nylon that they use to package the rice reduces because of increase in nylon manufacturing and also if the cost of transportation of the rice from the farm to the city is reduced because of reduction in fuel cost etc, eventually all this cost reduction will reduce the cost of a bag of rice in the market to lets say 4000 naira. Now if all other production of goods and services increase like this and the government stops printing money like say tomorrow no dey and no one person is given monopoly over any particular industry,then generally the overall price of things will fall, which means you will need less money to buy things. If you dey use 500 naira to buy plate of rice before, because of the general fall in price that 50 naira wey no fit buy you better pomo before go fit buy you full plate now. Its value(Purchasing power) has increased, so you won't even need to carry around 1000 naira in your pocket because it will be too much thereby making the need for 1000 note obsolete.

In terms of the exchange rate of the currency , there are a lot of factors to consider like economic growth,political stability, debt level, interest rate etc. But i believe it all starts with economic growth as i tried to explain earlier because remember our modern currency has no value on its own, its value comes from how people much people trust it's government and its economy. Ghana's currency is better because investors believe ghana's economy is better and alot stabler than ours. If not for the oil and other potentials wey we get, with all the rubbish wey our government dey do since, our currency suppose don worse pass Zimbabwe own by now. But we thank God.

So bros I believe first things first, we need to increase our productivity level to cater for our needs(which will reduce unnecessary excessive importation) and also boost our exports.

Just my opinion but I stand to be corrected
Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by sparko1(m): 10:02pm On Feb 16, 2018
Blood of Zachariah,

Did i see this correctly:

*.Jordanian Dinar JDD: ( 1 JDD = 507,65070 NGN )
Bank notes: 1, 5, 10, 20, 50, Dinars
Coins: 1/2, 1, quirsh, 21/2, 5, 10 Piastras

Is that 507, thousand?

Let me begin to pack my load, just imagine, if someone dash you like 100 Jordanian Dinar oboy you are a millionaire!
Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by Junior66(m): 10:04pm On Feb 16, 2018
Enigma1000:
As a financial analyst that I am, this is not true. Stoppage in the printing of high denomination has its advantages though. One major problem it ll solve is inflation
As a financial analyst you are wrong, sorry.
Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by Nobody: 10:05pm On Feb 16, 2018
Op. I know you have good intentions but economy doesn't work that way bro. Just removing higher denominations from the market would not solve Nigeria;s economic problem.

If that is done the broad gains would be political, not economical. Moreover, the N500 and N1000 note is not high value. It's worth just $1.39 $2.77 respectively, it's used by just about everyone. Removing it from circulation will devastate millions of workers paid in cash. It will imperiled countless small Nigerian businesses that conduct transactions in hard currency.
Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by Enigma1000: 10:06pm On Feb 16, 2018
IamaNigerianGuy:


This is the correct answer. The OP is anti-intellectual and his analysis and recommendations are amateurish.
Economics is a field of study - he should hit the books and not spout theories from thin air.
You are right. Maybe he is a secondary economist
Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by Enigma1000: 10:13pm On Feb 16, 2018
Samleen:


sir, then profer a solution. Don't just condem an opinion.

like I earlier wrote, this is not a scholarly work. They are my opinion base on personal abservations
The person you quoted is right o. Those cheering you has no adequate knowledge about the economy. The main problem in the value of naira is balance of trade.
Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by toprealman: 10:16pm On Feb 16, 2018
Why will any serious government listen to you when you shy away for research.
Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by OyinO: 10:20pm On Feb 16, 2018
Truest post.
Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by ifex370(m): 10:21pm On Feb 16, 2018
bloodmoneyspita:
there's no 100 naira right now and things hasn't changed, the CBN has silently withdrawn 100 naira in case you guys don't Kno.

Ayu serious
Re: The Secret Revealed: 1 NGN Can Equate 1 USD If Nigerian Government Can Do This. by shugamummy: 10:25pm On Feb 16, 2018
You missed that line that says 'shithole' country.

Anyway,I am looking for the snake with 36million Naira in its gut. Did it pass your house or your neighbour house. Please if you see am DM me.

I went to Zenith bank today to drop some bitter kola around. I dont want to hear kpakam for my 3k there.

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