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Re: Some God Questions by johnw74: 10:59pm On Mar 07, 2018
PastorAIO:


It is actually to be expected. Where they feel they have answers they never fail to present them with bible quotes etc.

But when they are out of their depth they resort to insults and toxicity. In fact that is how you know them. When you say something and their response is a personal insult then everybody can take it for granted that they have nothing with which to answer your argument. That is where the discussion should end for everybody to see their vacuousness.

talking about yourself again aio, you do that a lot

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Re: Some God Questions by johnw74: 11:10pm On Mar 07, 2018
PastorAIO:


It is actually to be expected. Where they feel they have answers they never fail to present them with bible quotes etc.

intereisting, an atheist siding with a rc

PastorAIO: But when they are out of their depth they resort to insults and toxicity. In fact that is how you know them. When you say something and their response is a personal insult then everybody can take it for granted that they have nothing with which to answer your argument. That is where the discussion should end for everybody to see their vacuousness.

do you mean like this:

PastorAIO: Knack that straw man correct. Don't worry I dey your back. We go give an combination chop. Two left jabs followed by a right uppercut and finish off with a Glasgow kiss to to nose. Next time the straw man comes looking for trouble he'll think twice.


PastorAIO:

Yeah garbage like quoting bible verses that you cannot address.

Interestingly I'm here to show you up for being a hypocritical bigoted unbiblical deluded pathetic human being.

Even though it is obvious that you lack the intelligence to even follow a debate on a thread I'll continue to interact with you because it gives me the opportunity to continue my exposition of this demonic movement that you are a part of.

^^^ insults, toxicity, personal response, vacuosness

ha ha, you are so duh aio, laugh

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Re: Some God Questions by PastorAIO: 11:13pm On Mar 07, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
You asked me for the meaning of Holiness, qadosh.
that if I have any idea, to please contribute.
This afterthought cum Oliver Twist addition wasnt part of your original request to me

I suppose "fits into your descriptions" means what promise10 outlined out as his own definition and understanding of what God is

Can you now demonstrate Whether or not Brahma (of hindu's religion) fits into your descriptions?
If so, why so? If not so, why not so?
>>>
Brahma (of hindu's religion) doesnt fit into the descriptions
because God, whose personal name is unrevealed and unknown but nonetheless, takes to Yahweh,
is everything Brahma is and everything that Brahma is not, that, Yahweh is
Even the name Yahweh, its meaning is a dead giveaway
Brahma (of hindu's religion) doesnt fit into the descriptions
because God, whose personal name is unrevealed and unknown but nonetheless, takes to Yahweh,
is everything Brahma is and everything that Brahma is not, that, Yahweh is
Even the name Yahweh, its meaning is a dead giveaway


And can you tell us Whether or not Yahweh (of hebrew religion) fits into your descriptions?
If so, why so? If not so, why not so?
>>>
Yahweh, inarguably, is a living embodiment of all those descriptions
Just above previous response, says why

Nairaland's Gods in their infinite wisdom decided that I was deserving of a spontaneous ban for no reason. I saw it as an opportunity. An opportunity to take a break from this place. Now I feel a lot more refreshed.

So what were we even talking about?

Yahweh, you say, is self eternal. I still haven't heard the meaning of what self eternal is.

Is there anything that Brahman is not?

note: I got brahman conflated with Brahma.
Re: Some God Questions by MuttleyLaff: 1:05am On Mar 08, 2018
PastorAIO:
Nairaland's Gods in their infinite wisdom decided that I was deserving of a spontaneous ban for no reason.
I saw it as an opportunity. An opportunity to take a break from this place.
Now I feel a lot more refreshed
The god of Nairaland works in mysterious ways

PastorAIO:
So what were we even talking about?
I dont know, you tell me

PastorAIO:
Yahweh, you say, is self eternal
That stint in the Nairaland slammer seemed to have affected your recollection
I know, I havent said: Yahweh, is self eternal
but just to be 110% sure, I did a search with my moniker, but it came back negative

I think whoever told you: Yahweh, is self eternal
is saying, Yahweh, is eternal and self-existent

PastorAIO:
I still haven't heard the meaning of what self eternal is
Probably a misspeak, done by whoever you quoted

PastorAIO:
Is there anything that Brahman is not?
Is there anything...? Like what?

PastorAIO:
note: I got brahman conflated with Brahma.
Tut tut tut. That's sloppy
Re: Some God Questions by Ubenedictus(m): 11:48pm On Mar 08, 2018
johnw74:


it's a fact you are a statue worshipper, that's truth,
so where is the name calling, and innacurate and immature rant Here oh lying false accuser:




but you are correct in me being a iconoclast
i certinally do criticize your cherished false worship of statues

God is a iconoclast also:
Lev_26:1 Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.

we have all seen rc's bow down and kneel down praying before statues of mary
God hates idol worship, and you dictus obviously don't care at all about that

I guess you just happen to read your Bible selectively and interpret it horribly
Re: Some God Questions by Ubenedictus(m): 12:00am On Mar 09, 2018
PastorAIO:


It is actually to be expected. Where they feel they have answers they never fail to present them with bible quotes etc.

But when they are out of their depth they resort to insults and toxicity. In fact that is how you know them. When you say something and their response is a personal insult then everybody can take it for granted that they have nothing with which to answer your argument. That is where the discussion should end for everybody to see their vacuousness.
it is just weird, that's all I'm saying
Re: Some God Questions by johnw74: 2:18am On Mar 09, 2018
Ubenedictus:
I guess you just happen to read your Bible selectively and interpret it horribly

the lies just keep flowing

so you dictus consider selective scripture to be false, of course you do

and show me my horrible interpretation of the verse i posted:

Lev_26:1 Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.

johnw74:

it's a fact you are a statue worshipper, that's truth,
so where is the name calling, and innacurate and immature rant Here oh lying false accuser:




but you are correct in me being a iconoclast
i certinally do criticize your cherished false worship of statues

God is a iconoclast also:
Lev_26:1 Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.

we have all seen rc's bow down and kneel down praying before statues of mary
God hates idol worship, and you dictus obviously don't care at all about that

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Re: Some God Questions by PastorAIO: 10:08am On Mar 09, 2018
Ubenedictus:
it is just weird, that's all I'm saying

And I'm adding that I've come to expect it.
Re: Some God Questions by johnw74: 10:59pm On Mar 09, 2018
PastorAIO:


And I'm adding that I've come to expect it.

dictus was also talking about you until you started siding with him, laugh


so you have come to expect the insults and toxicity:

PastorAIO: Knack that straw man correct. Don't worry I dey your back. We go give an combination chop. Two left jabs followed by a right uppercut and finish off with a Glasgow kiss to to nose. Next time the straw man comes looking for trouble he'll think twice.




PastorAIO:
Yeah garbage like quoting bible verses that you cannot address.

Interestingly I'm here to show you up for being a hypocritical bigoted unbiblical deluded pathetic human being.

Even though it is obvious that you lack the intelligence to even follow a debate on a thread I'll continue to interact with you because it gives me the opportunity to continue my exposition of this demonic movement that you are a part of.

ha ha

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Re: Some God Questions by PastorAIO: 1:06pm On Mar 10, 2018
johnw74:




do you mean like this:






^^^ insults, toxicity, personal response, vacuosness

ha ha, you are so duh aio, laugh

I believe that you would save yourself a whole lot of trouble if you found out what a Straw Man really is, and what it means to attack a Straw man.

Until then you'll suffer the misfortune of feeling insulted by innocuous statements.
Re: Some God Questions by johnw74: 11:51pm On Mar 10, 2018
PastorAIO:


I believe that you would save yourself a whole lot of trouble if you found out what a Straw Man really is, and what it means to attack a Straw man.

Until then you'll suffer the misfortune of feeling insulted by innocuous statements.

your false replies are because you don't have any truthful replies

you say your statments are innocuous

such as:
aio:
"Yeah garbage"

"I'm here to show you up for being a hypocritical bigoted unbiblical deluded pathetic human being"

"you lack the intelligence to even follow a debate on a thread"

"this demonic movement that you are a part of"



ha ha, aio you are so duh that you contradict yourself from things you have just recently said, which i reminded you of, and which you are replying to, much laughter

it is very hard for some to tell the truth:

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

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Re: Some God Questions by PastorAIO: 10:58am On Mar 11, 2018
johnw74:


your false replies are because you don't have any truthful replies

you say your statments are innocuous

such as:




ha ha, aio you are so duh that you contradict yourself from things you have just recently said, which i reminded you of, and which you are replying to, much laughter

it is very hard for some to tell the truth:

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

You've won. Well done.
Re: Some God Questions by johnw74: 10:55pm On Mar 11, 2018
Num_23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

Tit 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

Heb 6:18 That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:

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Re: Some God Questions by johnw74: 1:24am On Mar 12, 2018
God is good:

Luk 18:19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.


1. Jesus was speaking from His human perspective
2. He was testing philip

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

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Re: Some God Questions by PastorAIO: 1:24pm On Mar 12, 2018
The curious thing about liars is that they are the first to make a claim that they can never lie. So vociferous in the defense of their integrity, yet the facts speak otherwise.

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Re: Some God Questions by PastorAIO: 1:36pm On Mar 12, 2018
28“Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the children of man, and whatever blasphemies they utter, 29but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”— 30for they were saying, “He has an unclean spirit.”

Mark Chapter 3




When evil has so confounded a man's mind that he can no longer tell good from bad then he is ready to commit the unforgivable sin.

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Re: Some God Questions by johnw74: 11:39pm On Mar 12, 2018
johnw74:
Num_23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

Tit 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

Heb 6:18 That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:


PastorAIO: The curious thing about liars is that they are the first to make a claim that they can never lie. So vociferous in the defense of their integrity, yet the facts speak otherwise.

you are calling God a liar in other threads also
of course only a son of satan can talk that way about God
truly you will have your reward

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Re: Some God Questions by johnw74: 11:47pm On Mar 12, 2018
PastorAIO:
28“Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the children of man, and whatever blasphemies they utter, 29but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”— 30for they were saying, “He has an unclean spirit.”

Mark Chapter 3




When evil has so confounded a man's mind that he can no longer tell good from bad then he is ready to commit the unforgivable sin.

yes indeed, and a man's mind can no longer tell good from bad when he calls God a liar,
and your calling God a liar is the same as saying He has an unclean spirit

Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Re: Some God Questions by PastorAIO: 8:07pm On Apr 02, 2018
The Euthyphro dilemma is found in Plato's dialogue Euthyphro, in which Socrates asks Euthyphro, "Is the pious (τὸ ὅσιον) loved by the gods because it is pious, or is it pious because it is loved by the gods?" (10a)

The dilemma has had a major effect on the philosophical theism of the monotheistic religions, but in a modified form: "Is what is morally good commanded by God because it is morally good, or is it morally good because it is commanded by God?"[1] -
Wikipedia


Is a lie a lie simply because it contradicts the actual facts of a matter?

Or can a statement that contradicts facts still be called true simply because it was god that made that statement.

The first position is that which allows that every one can ascertain truth from lies by examining whether it accords with facts.

While the second position deprives man from being able to tell truth from falsehood. It is a particularly heinous form of gaslighting which results leaving its victims bereft of any sort of moral sense. In effect it creates the opposite of religion, its leaves people benighted and shrouded in the darkest ignorance.
Re: Some God Questions by PastorAIO: 8:09pm On Apr 02, 2018
Divine command theory (also known as theological voluntarism)[1][2] is a meta-ethical theory which proposes that an action's status as morally good is equivalent to whether it is commanded by God. The theory asserts that what is moral is determined by what God commands, and that for a person to be moral is to follow his commands.
-Wikipedia

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Re: Some God Questions by PastorAIO: 12:04am On Feb 04, 2023
PastorAIO:
The Euthyphro dilemma is found in Plato's dialogue Euthyphro, in which Socrates asks Euthyphro, "Is the pious (τὸ ὅσιον) loved by the gods because it is pious, or is it pious because it is loved by the gods?" (10a)

The dilemma has had a major effect on the philosophical theism of the monotheistic religions, but in a modified form: "Is what is morally good commanded by God because it is morally good, or is it morally good because it is commanded by God?"[1] -
Wikipedia


Is a lie a lie simply because it contradicts the actual facts of a matter?

Or can a statement that contradicts facts still be called true simply because it was god that made that statement.

The first position is that which allows that every one can ascertain truth from lies by examining whether it accords with facts.

While the second position deprives man from being able to tell truth from falsehood. It is a particularly heinous form of gaslighting which results leaving its victims bereft of any sort of moral sense. In effect it creates the opposite of religion, its leaves people benighted and shrouded in the darkest ignorance.
Re: Some God Questions by Kobojunkie: 12:57am On Feb 04, 2023
PastorAIO:
■The Euthyphro dilemma is found in Plato's dialogue Euthyphro, in which Socrates asks Euthyphro, "Is the pious (τὸ ὅσιον) loved by the gods because it is pious, or is it pious because it is loved by the gods?" (10a)
■ The dilemma has had a major effect on the philosophical theism of the monotheistic religions, but in a modified form: "Is what is morally good commanded by God because it is morally good, or is it morally good because it is commanded by God?"[1] -
Wikipedia
Is a lie a lie simply because it contradicts the actual facts of a matter? Or can a statement that contradicts facts still be called true simply because it was god that made that statement. The first position is that which allows that every one can ascertain truth from lies by examining whether it accords with facts. While the second position deprives man from being able to tell truth from falsehood. It is a particularly heinous form of gaslighting which results leaving its victims bereft of any sort of moral sense. In effect it creates the opposite of religion, its leaves people benighted and shrouded in the darkest ignorance.
Note that my response is based on that presented in scripture. undecided

1. The righteous — the pious of scripture —, those who obey God's teachings and commandments, are loved by God because they are those who obey God's teachings and commandments — God's love is for those who obey His teachings and commandments. undecided

2. This isn't a dilemma as far as scripture is concerned. undecided

3. In the context of scripture, all that is proclaimed by God is by default True, hence all that contradicts that stated by God is of lies. undecided
Re: Some God Questions by Kobojunkie: 1:09am On Feb 04, 2023
PastorAIO:
■ First off: 'Self-Eternal'. I know what eternal means but I didn't know that it could be sub-divided. What is the difference between a Self=eternal being and a being that isn't Self-eternal.
2) What do you understand by 'HOLY"? you wrote 'without any moral or character defect', is that what you mean by Holy? I ask because in the bible the word Holy is also applied to places and people. For example, exodus 19:6. I have often seen qadosh translated as Set Apart.
3) And can you tell us Whether or not Yahweh ( of hebrew religion) fits into your descriptions? If so, why so? If not so, why not so?
1. That may have been an attempt by the other at indicating that God Himself is eternity — the one from whom all life springs forth. undecided

2. Morality has nothing to do with holiness as instead morality is of the laws of men. Holiness, as far as scripture is concerned, refers to a state of being in complete, or what we would consider perfect even, compliance with God's Law and specification — His teachings and commandment --- as given to a particular people. God's Law refers to a contract/agreement that clearly defines the terms and conditions of the relationship between God and Man, as put forward by God Himself. Exodus 19 vs 6, for instance, is a reference to the Kingdom of God, a Nation of Priests set apart from the rest of humanity as a result of their obedience to His Law and Constitution, The Gospels of the Kingdom of God i.e. Jesus Christ. undecided

3. YHWH is God's Law of Moses —the National Constitution of the State of Israel in the Land of Canaan —given by God to the children of Israel. YHWH is an everlasting covenant God made with the people in the land of Canaan. undecided

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