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Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by naptu2: 4:27am On Apr 19, 2018
Who really benefits from Nigeria's 'prosperity gospel'?


Pastor Adeboye's Redemption Camp church is one of the fastest growing in Nigeria

Many Nigerian Christians believe it is compulsory to give 10% of their income to the church. But, Yemisi Adegoke writes, others say this practice, known as tithing, means poor people are funding the extravagant lifestyles of some of Nigeria's richest people - charismatic preachers.

"Anyone who is not paying his tithe is not going to heaven, full stop," Pastor Enoch Adeboye said to a hall full of pastors in Lagos earlier this month.

"Go back, immediately after this convention to restitute your ways with your congregation," he ordered the pastors at the Redemption Camp.


Passing a collection plate - or basket - is a longstanding part of Christianity but should it be obligatory?

He has spoken about this many times before. "Paying your tithe is not a minor thing," he warned in a previous sermon. "Go back to Malachi, chapter three, verse 8-11," he urged.

In the Contemporary English translation, that part of the Old Testament says: "I am the Lord All-Powerful, and I challenge you to put me to the test. Bring the entire 10% into the storehouse, so there will be food in my house. Then I will open the windows of heaven and flood you with blessing after blessing."




Other translations, including the King James Bible, just use the word tithe, which is an old English word meaning tenth.

And Nigerians have been continuing the debate on social media.


FEYISAYO @_Feyola_
A lot of us pay tax, So what's the big deal in tithes Jesus Said, Give what it is to Ceasar to Ceasar and Give what is to God, to God...So, i am actually lost while tithing is a big deal

SUNDAY IWALAIYE @SUNDAY73
The biblical truth about tithing is ravaging the so called Prosperity Gospel Pastors of Nigeria. Somebody shout Hallelujah.

Paula Swift @Klasic_Blue
If you want to tithe then do that, if u don't want to then don't. What u believe will work for u. Stop trying to convince others to stop tithing. How about u talk about solution on how to move Nigeria forward than disturbing us with why people,tithing should stop. Is it ur money?

Former @Hisroyaldopenez @Hisroyaldopenex
Monthly Tithe is a scam Most Pastors are using to enrich themselves. Tithing isn't a monthly thing, not even an annual thing. You're supposed to pay once in 3yrs.
Your Pastor won't tell you this cos it'll affect him financially.

Some critics have linked preachers' insistence that followers must give a tithe with the immense wealth of many Nigerian pastors.

With about half of Nigeria's 180 million people saying they are Christians, the potential income to the country's many churches is enormous.

Pastor Adeboye himself has been listed by Forbes as one of the richest clerics in the world with a net worth of $130m (£91m).

'Manipulative doctrine'

What particularly irks radio personality Daddy Freeze is that preachers tell very poor people that if they give to the church, God will make them wealthy - an idea known as the "prosperity gospel".

"The only people that seem to be getting richer are these people who are preaching this gospel of prosperity," he told the BBC.


Ifedayo Olarinde, known as "Daddy Freeze", is one of the most outspoken critics of tithing in Nigeria

"You have a pastor who builds a school with the funds generated from tithing and offerings from poor congregation members and they can't [afford to] attend those schools."

The presenter, whose real name is Ifedayo Olarinde, used to pay tithes himself and still describes himself as a follower of Christ.

But he believes that tithes are an irrelevant part of the Old Testament.

"It's a non-progressive doctrine, it's a manipulative doctrine and it's an enslaving doctrine."

Daddy Freeze's comments have cost him.

Preachers have spoken out against him in their sermons and people have started avoiding him.

"Nobody wants to work with me, nobody," he said. "But I believe what I'm doing, I'm doing for humanity, people need to be set free."

He is not the only Christian who disputes whether the Bible advises to pay 10% of your income to the church - some well known preachers have come forward to say it is not compulsory.

Doing God's work

For Idris Belo-Osagie, a pastor at the Lifepointe Church in Lagos, the 10% figure is a "useful reference" for Christians due to its "historical context," but he stipulates that "we are not forced to give to God".


"It's not about a percentage, it's not about a requirement, it's about a lifestyle," says Pastor Belo-Osagie


However, he adds that "it's hard to see how you can follow in Jesus' steps and not give".

In a country where state-run health and education services are often lacking, he argues that the church often uses the money it gets for the welfare "of those who can't take care of themselves".

"There are hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, who are fed in Nigeria by the church because they've been empowered by the giving of the people of God," he said.

He also points out that the money is used to spread the church's teachings.

And the church-goers I met in Lagos are happy to carry on paying the 10%.

"It's something I've practised over time and it's worked for me, so I'll just keep doing it," the smartly dressed assistant to pastor Caleb Ekpenyong told me.

For him the doctrine is clear and there is no grey area.

The conspicuous consumption of some preachers doesn't deter Christians from giving either.

One church-goer, Temitope Olagbgegi, told me the preachers' lavish lifestyles were a matter for God, not her.

"So many people are concerned about how the funds are being used, forgetting that, because it's a spiritual thing, if the pastor chooses to misuse funds he's going to bear the brunt of it."
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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by naptu2: 4:47am On Apr 19, 2018

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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by Nobody: 4:57am On Apr 19, 2018
Adeboye & Sons enterprise.

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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by naptu2: 5:38am On Apr 19, 2018

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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by mmsen: 5:57am On Apr 19, 2018
It doesn't matter how many times you tell them, the sheep would rather be led to slaughter than be free.

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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by TheHotspur(m): 6:07am On Apr 19, 2018
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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by ITbomb(m): 6:22am On Apr 19, 2018
I started doubting tithe when it was made compulsory and a supposedly curse on those who don't do it

That's not the gospel I was taught


70% offerings to headquarters and 30% remains for local parish, these guys are operating a fvrking franchise
No wonder they insist on spreading like mushrooms everywhere

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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by AdaIhiala(f): 6:41am On Apr 19, 2018
The direct beneficiaries are the Pastors and their families. This tithing ish has taken over the Church thereby relegating the rest of the gospel to the back. Christians seek the truth and the truth shall set you free.

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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by Ayoswit(f): 6:41am On Apr 19, 2018
K, if it works for you, then pay, but nobody should make u give out ten percent of your hard earned money with threat of not making heaven, it isn't biblical anyway. D Bible says that except a man is born again, he cannot enter the kingdom of heaven, God is only interested in your salvation and not your tithe.

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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by directonpc(m): 6:42am On Apr 19, 2018
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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by Bossontop(m): 6:43am On Apr 19, 2018
undecided
Anoda tithe thread again??.....mtchew!!!

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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by bamite(m): 6:45am On Apr 19, 2018
Abeg na who I go come ask

This na fulani question undecided

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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by SamuelAnyawu(m): 6:46am On Apr 19, 2018
You have a pastor who builds a school with the funds generated from tithing and offerings from poor congregation members and they can't [afford to] attend those schools.



grin grin You cannot compare the European Missionaries in the early 90's to our current Religious Leaders.

Ask about Reverend Father Fraser in Mount Saint Gabriel Secondary School Makurdi Benue State
cool

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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by Nobody: 6:46am On Apr 19, 2018
Nigeria is finding it's way out of the shackles of diluted religion

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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by ogakizito(m): 6:46am On Apr 19, 2018
rubbish
Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by priiince(m): 6:47am On Apr 19, 2018
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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by trapQ: 6:47am On Apr 19, 2018
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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by Nobody: 6:48am On Apr 19, 2018
How did we get to this point? we've become a subject of discussion and ridicule to the outside world. it hurts to see this.
Go get your PVC ready people..help save the generations yet to come.

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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by kulboy(m): 6:49am On Apr 19, 2018
This table you are shaking has lots of pastors and G.O’s on it oh!

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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by zombieTRACKER: 6:49am On Apr 19, 2018
Only the pastors and their families

They live the life of kings and queens
Here on earth....


It's quite painful and tragic that the masses who are the victims are the same people protecting and praising their oppressors on the pulpit ...

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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by Nobody: 6:50am On Apr 19, 2018
angry The reasons criminals like Adeboye and Oyedepo continues to thrive is that the ignorance of the populace benefits the politicians and fraudulent pastors. Every Sunday all churches are filled with empty headed worshipers repeating the same prayer points every day without realizing that their destiny is in their hands. Africans will rather go to church and mosques to pray for manners to fall from heaven. The most selfish continent in the world adding no productive output and value to humanity. We have been praying for decades yet our level of development cannot match countries with less religiosity and natural resources. We import everything and yet get angry when the west tells us to marry same gender. China is the largest economy right now and the factory of the world. The reason why their government is clamping down on religion and encouraging research in science and technology. No western nations dare dictate or enforce their beliefs on china because they liberated themselves economically. Instead of the brain dead leaders in Abuja to sponsor and encourage research in science and technology, they will rather spend billions of naira on pilgrimages to Saudi Arabia and Israel while the gullible masses continue to lavish in poverty and under-development. Africa is a cursed continent filled with greedy and mentally lazy idiots parading as political and religious leaders

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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by Taiwx(m): 6:50am On Apr 19, 2018
Pastors undecided
Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by Meti99(m): 6:51am On Apr 19, 2018
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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by Paperwhite(m): 6:51am On Apr 19, 2018
The conmen MOG,their families & ass licker aides. Simple! angry
Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by Nobody: 6:52am On Apr 19, 2018
SamuelAnyawu:
You have a pastor who builds a school with the funds generated from tithing and offerings from poor congregation members and they can't [afford to] attend those schools.



grin grin You cannot compare the European Missionaries in the early 90's to our current Religious Leaders.

Ask about Reverend Father Fraser in Mount Saint Gabriel Secondary School Makurdi Benue State
cool

If fees were not high in church schools like covenant u, Redeemer's, Babcock, etc it would be very difficult to pay salaries, build new facilities, expand, etc.

Also, all those old mission schools were subsidised by Tithes of foreign church members and voluntary donations.and they were not free.

And yes, I am no fan of prosperity gospel. Funding education however is a whole new discussion

If you set up a school, someone has to pay for it.and since most church schools are not sponsored by government, it has to be fees.

Modified...The fact that i support high fees in public and private schools does not mean that I think that Pastor and Father in the Lord is good to drive big car and big plane.High fees is basically how staff get money to be paid their salaries, and so on. It is the sad fact that education is expensive.

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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by kolawoleibukun: 6:52am On Apr 19, 2018
the thieves. the pastors and Imam. celebrity pastors and imam, the sheeples are fools and you do not blame them because they are desperate for a visible answer that is not there. instead of worshipping God in spirit and truth they are looking for signs.

these pastors and imam capitalize on their weaknesses to prey on them.

they lie to muslims that they would be given 7 virgins if they commit murder.

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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by shortgun(m): 6:53am On Apr 19, 2018
If want to pay tithes pay.. If you don't want to pay tithes don't pay and don't disturb people that do.

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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by hysteriabox(m): 6:53am On Apr 19, 2018
Linking tithes with salvation is a clear show of ignorance. New creation realities 101 that an average believer should know is now a big miss even to Bishops

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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by Obierika(m): 6:53am On Apr 19, 2018
It's the manipulative pastors that benefit from this scam

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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by Megatrix: 6:54am On Apr 19, 2018
I don't understand the hairsplitting about people paying tithes. People should learn to mind their business, their is no compulsion in Religion. Those who believe in paying tithes should be allowed to do so and those who don't believe in paying tithes are also free not to
Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by ajbabs(m): 6:56am On Apr 19, 2018
Study the below for more understanding on tithe

Deut 14: 22- 27, This is how God Almighty wants us to spend the tithe, if the new millennium ( modern day) pastors would be bent on us to pay tithe or go to hell.
After you, might have read the above bible passages, then read the popular Malachi 3:10
If you are to bring tithe to house of the Lord, you are the one to determine how to spend the tithe according to words of God Almighty by using it to buy things to eat in the house of the Lord and in his presence. God Almighty then advised his people to remember sons of Levite when they are eating their tithe.

God didn't demand for money!
Even if you bring your tithe from a far place, you can change it to money but by the time to get to presence of God Almighty, your must use the money (tithe) to buy food and wine and you and your family members should eat it in the presence of Lord but remember to share out of your tithe to priests (who are sons of Levite), orphans and those who don't have. This is God's command.

My brother, then read Hebrew 7: 1- 28 for better understanding for the eradication of tithe by Apostle of Christ. Read Hebrew 7: 12 very well



Jesus Christ death ended the requirement of the law. Rom 10:4

Don't allow yourself to be deluded. Heb 7:8-12

8 And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth. 9 And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham.
10 For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him. 11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law

The law has been set aside (Heb 7:18), included in the law is its requirement that you pay tithe. It was a sin not to do so, but the law has been changed after Christ paid with his blood and set the law aside. No true christian is under the law. When Christ was alive and the law was then effective. Christ's death ended it.

Slight modifications : In accordance with the advice from the scripture that I should not forsake the fellowship of the believers, I am fellowshipping with the believers in a local parish of RCCG, in Ibadan.
Cc ITbomb

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Re: Who Really Benefits From Nigeria's 'prosperity Gospel'? (BBC News) by ril19(m): 6:56am On Apr 19, 2018
your guess is as good as mine.....the GOs themselves and their immediate families.

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