Alhajijesus:
there is Bidiah Mufassiqoh and Bidiah Mukafiiroh.

AlBaqir:


Then, kindly explain the hadith of Nabi (salallahu alayhi wa ahli) when he uses the word " Kullu bid'ah... - All Bid'ah..."?!

# When Qur'an says, " Kullu Nafsin dhã'iqatul mawt - All souls will taste death" absolutely, there's no exception.

AbdelKabir:


If the prophet said all bidah leads to hell, does it mean everyone that goes to hell died a kaafir?

AlBaqir:


# My question is very simple and trying to use questioning back tactics does not help erase the question. If you have no idea to it, please let a sensible person whom the question is directed to answer it.

AbdelKabir:


You asked a ridiculous question to prove that all bidah is kufr to support the op – who doesn't know his elbow from his knees –because the prophet said all bidah leads to hell, then I'm telling you by a way of questioning that, it is not everyone that goes to hell, that enters there because of kufr and this is well established.

So it puts your question where it rightly belong, the trash can...

AlBaqir:


@ underline, that's how you accuse ignorantly. Where in my question did I state that? Or how do you know my own line of submission (which I am yet to expose) is towards Jabata's student? Answer Mr olùmoràn okàn.

# Always try to learn how to treat issues as they come, stop bè-ing like bebeto. Again, kindly let a reasonable person answer the question then we will know exactly where we are going.

AbdelKabir:


Ogbeni, the thread contains a yes or no position, either yes it's all kufr or no not all is kufr.....your question don't show you are asking to proof that no its not all kufr. Well it is established that not all that goes to hell will enter because of kufr, making your question as useless as the p in psychology....

AlBaqir:


Then, kindly explain the hadith of Nabi (salallahu alayhi wa ahli) when he uses the word " Kullu bid'ah... - All Bid'ah..."?!

# When Qur'an says, " Kullu Nafsin dhã'iqatul mawt - All souls will taste death" absolutely, there's no exception.

Alhajijesus:





2.

Two and someone who snapped photo Ahmada tijani and Ibrahim iniyaas and he does sujjud for them anytime he wakes up before doing anything.

Alhajijesus:



LOL!

You believed Kufr and Sin has level but when it comes to Bidiah they are all the same.


Let's take this as an example.


We all know animate pictures are not permissible in Islaam.

So someone who lost his parents at tender age decide to keep his parents pictures so that his children would be able to recognize there grandparents.


2.

Two and someone who snapped photo Ahmada tijani and Ibrahim iniyaas and he does sujjud for them anytime he wakes up before doing anything.


Can you please do the taarif of this?

Remember they both practice Bidiah.

Fundamentalist:
Since saheedbinaliyu ran away, we have another jabata's stooge .

I had to trace shaheedbinaliyu to Facebook , let's see how long you will last

Fundamentalist:
You call yourself saeedibnEesa

You also say you are shaheedbinaliyu

You mean you have two fathers , I hope everyone understands my message ?

What do you call a person that has two fathers ?

SaeedIbnEesa:



You don't know the difference between bin and ibn...
Mr izala.. See your life

Fundamentalist:


My life ..... I'm happy with it, Mr Boko haram

Go and look for you mate.

I still haven't forgot the question you owe me before you changed username.

You still haven't told us , who your real father is ? From my knowledge the place you come from , a child has many fathers and you are not excluded

Jabata stooge

10% English

5% Arabic

How to abuse and make takfir 100%





No wonder you come from different fathers

SaeedIbnEesa:




Aqeedah... Zero
Akham... Zero
Arabic.. Zero..



See your life.. Wasting...
Don't die a kafir Mr man

Fundamentalist:


Nairaland boko haram

SaeedIbnEesa:



Tell us the original name and creed of Boko Haram..

And explain how I am a Boko Haram

Fundamentalist:


When you give me proof to me question which you ran away from , we will atrt discussing your migration into the ideology of boko haram

SaeedIbnEesa:
*NO DOUBT THAT BID'AH IS KUFUR*

Question: Who will have a worse
punishment (in the Hereafter): The
sinners or the innovators?

Answer

The innovators will have a worse
punishment, since innovations are worse than sins.
Innovations are more beloved
to the Devil than sins because (it is likely that) the sinner may repent

Sufyaan Ath-Thawree, may Allaah have mercy on him, said:
“Innovation is more beloved to Iblees (the Devil) than sins. This is because sins are repented from whereas innovations are not repented from.”
(Majmoo’-ul-Fataawaa (11/472))

The Prophet said:
“Verily Allaah has prevented repentance from every person of
innovation.”
(Silsilat-ul-Ahaadeeth as-Saheehah
(1620))

- but as for the innovator, then very rarely does he repent because he thinks that he is upon the truth. This is contrary to the
sinner for he knows that he is disobeying Allaah and that he is committing a sinful deed.

As for the innovator, he considers
himself to be obeying Allaah and to be upon obedience. This is why innovation – 'and Allaah’s refuge is sought' – is worse than sin.

And this is why the Salaf warned
the people from sitting and gathering with the innovators –

Al-Hasan Al-Basree, may Allaah have mercy upon him, said:
“Do not sit with a person of
innovation, for indeed he will put a disease in your heart.”
(Al-I’tisaam of Ash-Shaatibee (1/72)

verified by Saleem Al-Hilaalee and Al- Bid’a wan-Nahee ‘anhaa of Ibn
Waddaah (pg. 54))

SaeedIbnEesa:



When will you leave your dolal. Do not die except you are a Muslim

SaeedIbnEesa:



When will you leave your dolal. Do not die except you are a Muslim

Fundamentalist:




May this NYSC dey shak your brain .

My next question is since jabata is against Democratic government, why are you collecting allawee , is that not haram also ?

adejaresalami1:

Jabata only spoke against Democratic rule, he was not in oppose of working under the government.......I use to listen to his lectures, I pick what's relevant and trash what's not.

Fundamentalist:


What is this one saying ........



If you understand my point of argument , please restrain your fingers

When you listen to trash , you type trash

Fundamentalist:




May this NYSC dey shak your brain .

My next question is since jabata is against Democratic government, why are you collecting allawee , is that not haram also ?

Rashduct4luv:


All innovations are misguidance and the innovator is given a warning of Hell; small innovations may lead to greater innovations. This is in general terms.

The one who has knowledge of Islamic teachings and an awareness of different sects will have no doubt that the innovation of the extreme Raafidis or extreme Jahamis, and their ilk, is worse than the sins committed by the sinners, such as drinking alcohol and the like.

By the same token, anyone who is possessed of reason and religious commitment will know that major sins, such as adultery, theft and the like, are worse than many innovations that are connected to practices, such as celebrating the Mawlid, communal dhikr, and the like. It is extremely foolish and unintelligent for anyone to believe that minor innovations such as these are worse before Allah and are more serious by Islamic standards than the sins and shameful deeds that we have mentioned above.