yassinattah:

Blame it on corruption in the government not Johesu:Drs saga.
U c why i said u Johesu guys are narrow minded is because ur ability to make logical reasoning to butress a valid point is hampered thats y u cant make an assertion that doesnt fit in as to the cause.
And this same Johesu person ll want to head me in a hospital with this his/her narrow minded ideas that i can stand,
That can never happen.
ALLAH YA KIYAYE.
Rada Rada kawai

MrBigiman:


Doctors shortage in Sweden, in UK and US. Show me any article on lab scientist or pharmacist shortage.

https://www.darkdaily.com/pathologists-and-physicians-in-united-kingdom-comment-on-how-shortage-of-medical-laboratory-professionals-could-soon-delay-essential-diagnostic-therapeutic-testing-206/

https://cahsonline.uc.edu/resources/mls/infographics/the-medical-laboratory-scientist-personnel-shortage-and-the-future-of-lab-medicine/

https://globalnews.ca/news/1409676/saskatchewan-facing-shortage-of-medical-lab-professionals/

https://windsor.ctvnews.ca/mobile/ontario-group-warns-of-shortage-of-medical-lab-professionals-1.3901695/

bpalace:

Lol... Funny question? DM, if u wanna learn

bpalace:

Chief, u are in Nigeria pls, compounding ke? Which hospital...? Pls apply in emzor and make ur money, produce drugs, do research works and be happy... I would do so if I were u.

Freddonance:



The last time I checked, arrhythmia is not a disease. A doctor can not make a diagnosis of arrhythmia. Doctors make diagnosis of disease not symptoms or sign.... arrhythmia is a sign not a diagnosis
pls check it up

nelszx:


Just one article: shortage of Medical laboratory scientists in the UK, US and Canada.

The UK


The US


Canada

MrBigiman:


Longest time man. Hope u are good?

nelszx:

I'm good Trust you're too. Just watching/reading your exploits on here

MrBigiman:


I tire for my self too after I read wetin I write up.

MrEgghead:
I can sense hatred and vile contempt from your comments. I feel so bad when so called "educated peope" display their foolery and gross ignorance on social platforms. Just to exonerate your egocentric opinions you went ahead to disgracing yourself by alluding physicians are not fit to hold the title 'Doctors". I know your type; You were not intelligent enough to get medicine, hence, your blatant loathe for the profession.
You even went as far in a bid to vindicate your assertions by making a rather myopic and deluded statement that the decadence in the health is as a result as Doctors being the heads of health care institutions as if there's any sector that is working properly in the country.
Medical Doctors will always be the leaders in the health sectors, albeit the art of healing is multifaceted.
Doctors should never sabotage the efforts of others toward career progression but I'm vehemently against parity in remunerations and other benefits; it's ridiculous, preposterous and grossly unacceptable anywhere in the world.

Ordinarily I won't av dignify ppl like u with response but for ur brazen frivolity and crass ignorance ,am compelled to do so.
Firstly in ur crass ignorance,u emphatically claimed the leadership of d health sector belongs to ur egotistical colleagues which is at variance with the so called international practices NMA always cite for their own selfish benefits.You can google to know ease ur ignorance for u to know that countries with best medical system have good administrator who are not doctors handling d helm of affairs of their medical sector efficiently which makes our leaders to rush there for medical cares anytym they are ill.For instance d minister of health in Germany is a banker,d minister of health in India studied law,head of the national health service in Scotland studied social science,the secretaries of state for health in US and UK respectively are not physicians.You can see from d stated countries with good health system than ours do not have ducks (physicians) at the helm of affairs.
On ur egomaniac bravado of medicine as a course ,I never for once applied to study it ,am a proud and licensed Medical Laboratory Scientist that plays pivotal and behind d screen roles in d prevention,diagnosis,management and treatment of disease.You can bamboozled the public wit ur so called 'almighty' course but not other health professionals in d system,ur medicine is one of d cheap and easy course to study if u are not too lazy as a student.I wud advise u to check out other courses not even in d medical terrain like Architecture, Civil engineering etc for u to realize ur pseudo-egomaniac claims on ur course of study.

Topshow2010:
A NON JOHESU PERSON WROTE THIS!!!!

As a seasoned public servant, my heart bleeds whenever I read what you young ones with no experience come to social media to post. I am not a member of JOHESU but look at this objectively, a fresh medical officer enters the public service at grade level (GL)12 while pharmacist and lab sci enter on GL 10, nurse on GL 8....how can these salaries be the same? doctor's call duty allowance is 4% of his basic salary while pharmacist's call duty is 2% of his basic salary...now how can 4% of GL 12 be same with 2% of GL 10?

Nurses collect shift duty allowance, how can a meagre shift duty allowance of GL 8 be the same with 4% of GL 12?

A medical officer who enters on GL 12 as resident and becomes a fellow after 4 or 6yrs is upgraded to GL 15 ..it takes a pharmacist minimum of 12 yrs to get to GL 15 and nurse minimum of 18 yrs to get to GL 15. NMA is really not helping the Nigerian health sector.

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frankpro27:


Thr is nothing dat a medical doctor knw dat I don't know as a Pharm.D holder, aside surgery. U guys are pushing us into a better future. Very soon we will become prescribing pharmacist Nd u will only get to perform surgery.

frankpro27:


Thr is nothing dat a medical doctor knw dat I don't know as a Pharm.D holder, aside surgery. U guys are pushing us into a better future. Very soon we will become prescribing pharmacist Nd u will only get to perform surgery.

TempoJames:
JOHESU is already a failure!

Yes, I agree they make up 95% population of health sector but one inteligent head is better than 9 dumb heads. Imagine their chairman was very proud to say "we want to show the FG that we make up 95% of health sector".

JOHESU war will just end up as Biafra agitations and will lead to choas among its members when they come back with unmet demands.

If these demands are obtainable in the top 20 countries with best standards of medical practise I wouldn't be arguing here. Check the CMD and HODs in Hodgkin hospital.

We are short of doctors . Else JOHESU could know that the health care can operate functionally without them. The only people that could survive the revolution are pharmacists as doctors are not licensed to operate a pharmacy. Physiotherapy is a heck in Nigeria. Even Registered nurses indulge in physiotherapy.Doctors can chart TPR,dress wounds, prepare patients for surgery,autoclave instruments and all those stuffs. Recruit as many residents in pathology as possible then medlab sci. could know they are not indispensable. Recruit as many residents in radiology as possible. Only then could JOHESU know that doctors are all round. Doctors don't just want to take their work.


Doctors are just worried about nothing. Increase of salary will even be to doctors' favour. Only then could the relativity makes much sense. Imagine if a medlab sci. earns 200k and a doc earns 300k then FG decides to increase it by 20%. Automatically med lab sci. could earn 240K while a doc earns 360k. you see the relativity shifts from 100k to 120k. So doctors should even support Johesu but on grounds that any increment will be to both parties.

The aspect that is totally unobtainable is the issue of consultancy. It will only amount to heirachical rivalry in superiority of decision to patients' management.

If the public health sector breaks down. Doctors and Pharmacists will survive in the private sector but it will be harsh for other allied field.
A pharmacist will survive in his/her pharceutical shop/company but the bitterness in the sector will result in bizzare laison between docs and other allied fields.
Ofcourse doctors will boom in their private clinics. If they want to use only pathologists in their medical laboratories the medlab sci. will only go jobless. Ofcourse Docs can replace nurses if only they are willing to stoop low and work. Radiologists can fill up the Radiology dept. Physiotherapists may still be needed but can still be replaced afterall physiotherapy is a heck in Nigeria. If docs chose not refer their patients to private laboratory and then make that of private clinics cheap. The health scientist will suffer abjectly in Nigeria.

JOHESU is not an issue. They will come back divided especially when their demands are unmet.


I have never seen a policeman as chief of defence staff. The position automatically belongs to the Army.
I wonder why paramedics chew more than they can bite.

Hairyrapunzel:


Prescribing for a disease you know nothing about. I drlliterate. You will not face your work. Be killing people up and down because you claim to know what medical doctor knows. Diagnosis you can't even make. Olodo. In developed countries you won't make noise. You will even be arrested before you finish your statement. No be only Prescribing pharmacist. Your mates are thinking of how dey will manufacture drugs to cure cancer and you are here dreaming of prescribing drugs to diseases you know nothing about and management plan. Murderer.

Ang88:
U are not making sense... I'm a graduate nurse. I work in a teaching hospital... My Friend had two miscarriages in my ward because of work stress... Two nurses to thirty patients..if ur relation has been admitted to a govt hospital, u will understand the role nurses play... U give medication, insulin, dress dirty wounds that most doctors run away from, u check vitals, bathe and change pampers of grown adults,take patients for various investigations, ensure u collect results, make beds, feed patients and the list continues...u even get to teach some of the house officers who are polite enough to tell u they don't know certain procedures....As a graduate nurse my salary is not up to no ninety thousand and sometimes they pay u seventy something thousand.... I choose nursing because of my aunty who is a nurse in America... I graduated as one of the best in my department with a second class upper division and my jamb score was 294 My widowed mother spent money to train me but I can't even take very good care of her, the way I want, husband, children..... God help me o, I have started doing business

yassinattah:

This thing happened in UCH Ibadan yrs ago oo,
A consultant surgeon made a treatment outline,a honorary consultant nurse was then the wife of then CMD in UCH ibadan and discontinued the consultant treatment plan and made her own treatment plan,she even said the consultant surgeon should have contacted her before making his plans.
guess what- d consultant nurse was stripped of her rank immediately because d then CMD was under soo much threat.

yassinattah:

U two guys are just using ur singularised experience to trivialise this Drs to Johesu saga,
Please we are talking as a group nt bringing ur individual encounter to make a non valid point,
Besides u guys are nt Drs neither are u Johesu,but they are Johesu supporters,maybe u pple are just wannabes,so what is ur own now in this beef or are u two just exercising ur fundamental civic right of freedom of expression,
See u two should shift let us see road abeg.
Rada rada.

dokiOloye:

Your inferiority complex is palpable.
Its not too late to go back to med sch.
After all,the 2 of my classmates who were close to my father's agemate were nurses.
They knew d difference and went back to med sch.

chuksbogus:




Are u listening to the so called educated fellow!! Dr doing other professions job is quackery!! Do u think Nurse or pharmacist even lab scientists not treat patients? in most private hospitals who do Dr call for surgery if not theater nurses ? so you think others can do Drs job?

chuksbogus:




Are u listening to the so called educated fellow!! Dr doing other professions job is quackery!! Do u think Nurse or pharmacist even lab scientists not treat patients? in most private hospitals who do Dr call for surgery if not theater nurses ? so you think others can do Drs job?

Jman06:
Kid, have you ever been to pharmacy school Do you know that pharmacy students study the pathology of diseases from 400 level till graduation The Pharm.D graduates then spend extra year studying pathology of diseases.
Stop exposing your ignorance on public forum nau! Have you no shame

Freddonance:


oh, interesting. tell me the pathology of non proliferative retinopathy (NPRP)

optm:
altho this is nt a classroom, there is no disease lyk 'non proliferative retinopathy ' rather it is 'non proliferative diabetic retinopathy'