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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by currentprice: 1:39pm On May 25, 2018
Chai! fbnh seen at 9.70 fully offer

grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by aremso(m): 1:40pm On May 25, 2018
Godisfaithful:


Which theory be this?



Not theory but facts and that is why they wanted us to devalue our naira by all means

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mcy56(f): 1:41pm On May 25, 2018
Mpeace:
Lol. No dey expose my man na. He is fully in the market. I know what he is doing. Denial is what they call it in psychology, one very effective way of dealing with loss.
grin grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by onegentleguy: 1:47pm On May 25, 2018
owoblow77:
Guy, it leaves a bad taste in the mouth. I work @ a multi-national. Colleagues who are friends, were downsized. Folks BPs were at an all-time high. Niggas cried. Senior managers who handed out letters, also got letters. It was a blood-bath. ''Eni ori yo, o di 'le''.Sourcing for raw materials using expensive dollars was crazy, we couldn't manufacture, consumers can't afford the higher prices. Those who ask for war, or other evils, have never experienced one. Seeing friends suffer with their families was not nice. These are guys who got payoffs, & also own their own homes. Imagine those who don't even have those.Sometimes, when you are relatively well-paid for so long, you find it hard to survive after the job loss, even if you think you're well-prepared. Now, I don't ever pray for anyone to suffer a job loss, not even my enemy. I pray 9ja doesn't break-up, the economic implications on the average folks will be crazy.

Yes its much more humane to strive towards bettering our networth without being unduly pessimistic.
...it would at least show that one is patriotic with a human face and empathetic of the possible plight of others.
However, its normal that in the stock mkt most folks who are out on the sideline with their funds will like to talk down on 'things' to infest fear on those in, so they can key in. ...oftentimes those inputs are exaggerated.
Those not in (the pessimist camp) would deploy several pranks and 'pray' that the mkt drops, so they'll get in at a cheap, while those in (the optimist camp) will tour the path of believing in the opposite.
It's a normal trend that can be seeing in the market globally.
So if as a mkt player, u can not live with this 'normal' trend, then the stock mkt is definitely not for u. ...put differently, the global stock mkt knows not what it means to have a human face !!
Remember that the pessimist camp are also a part of the mkt circle. ...so u can not exclude them.

The solution?
It calls for disciplinary measures and emotional management.
That's why I always advise folks to have a WORKABLE STRATEGY that's just good enough to suit their investment style, goals/target and personality.
...and once u have it, just do well to stick religiously to it.
For though u won't be perfect (no one is), but u will to a very large extent know when and how to manage FEAR (with a mkt downturn) and GREED (with a mkt up rise). ...because then, u always have a clear path/guideline to follow.
That way, u wouldn't be bothered about any 'noise' from the pessimist camp !!
That's the simple solution.

There are some select clear opportunities right now in the mkt.

Regards.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Godisfaithful: 1:54pm On May 25, 2018
aremso:




Not theory but facts and that is why they wanted us to devalue our naira by all means

...And we think Naira will go back to 200 per $1 with these type of leadership we have in Nigeria? Anyway, let’s wait and see...
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by aremso(m): 2:00pm On May 25, 2018
onegentleguy:


Yes its much more humane to strive towards bettering our networth without being unduly pessimistic.
...it would at least show that one is patriotic with a human face and empathy.
However, its normal that in the stock mkt most folks who are out on the sideline with their funds will like to talk down on 'things' to infest fear on those in, so they can key in.
Those not in (the pessimist camp) would deploy several pranks and 'pray' that the mkt drops, so they'll get in at a cheap, while those in (the optimist camp) will tour the path of believing in the opposite.
It's a normal trend that can be seeing in the market globally.
So if as a mkt player, u can not live with this 'normal' trend, then the stock mkt is definitely not for u. ...put differently, the stock mkt globally knows not what it means to have a human face !!
Remember that the pessimist camp are also a part of the mkt circle. ...so u cant exclude them.




That is how stock market works, everyone wants to maximize gain. Human whatever does not apply in stock market game and that is why before one jumps into it, u must understand the nitty gritty of how it works. Immediately I qualified for dividends on all my stocks, i pulled out because 2008 memory of massive loss is still fresh in my memory and am also certain that asian tigers will pull their capital/and profits out of the market as they have made enough and this they will be doing gradually so that those that does not know out it works will be hitting their heads into it. Let the bear continue f

The solution?
It calls for some disciplinary measures and emotional management.
That's why I always advise folks to have a WORKABLE STRATEGY that's just good enough to suit ur investment style, goals/target and ur personality.
...and once u have it, just do well to stick religiously to it.
For though u won't be perfect (no one is), but u will to a very large extent know when and how to manage FEAR (with a mkt downturn) and GREED (with a mkt up rise). ...because then, u always have a clear path/guideline to follow.
That way, u wouldn't be bothered about any 'noise' from the pessimist camp !!
That's the simple solution.

There are some select clear opportunities right now in the mkt.

Regards.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by swilo: 2:08pm On May 25, 2018
With the new market trend, I observe diamond bank faithfuls are no longer complaining... grin

Even coys with far better fundamentals have been hit worse than DiamondB.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mpeace(m): 2:11pm On May 25, 2018
swilo:
With the new market trend, I observe diamond bank faithfuls are no longer complaining... grin

Even coys with far better fundamentals have been hit worse than DiamondB.


lol We are nit complaining because diamond is now longest term for us.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by maishai: 2:12pm On May 25, 2018
I will start mopping till election crises over, the way my broker called me with smiles, I know the bear that awaits no be small o! See Dangote sugar going back to bus's top, d 1 unit of it on my portfolio has been reading 200%+ since November last year
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by maishai: 2:14pm On May 25, 2018
By d time this bear finish with diamond bank nobody will fantasize about it on this forum again......Its @ this junction I fear the 1k rule
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mendes911: 2:19pm On May 25, 2018
maishai:
By d time this bear finish with diamond bank nobody will fantasize about it on this forum again...... Its @ this junction I fear the 1k rule

Not at all. Diamond Bank will still sell for N2 by next year. We are only not certain what will happen between now and then.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by swilo: 2:20pm On May 25, 2018
Mpeace:
lol We are nit complaining because diamond is now longest term for us.

As it stands, I would have lost more money from Fidelity & DF than Diamond going by the current race down south.


Maybaker, Fidson and Zenith has been holding me for sometime now. I pray next week is better or else...
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mendes911: 2:20pm On May 25, 2018
GTB and Zenith finally taking some heat. The end is not far anymore.

My opinion though. Could be wrong.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by maishai: 2:22pm On May 25, 2018
mendes911:


Not at all. Diamond Bank will still sell for N2 by next year. We are only not certain what will happen between now and then.
I imagine diamond @ 18k......... I will borrow to mop diamond then I am ready to wait for 6 years for it to rise to #2
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by lafencer: 2:25pm On May 25, 2018
maishai:
By d time this bear finish with diamond bank nobody will fantasize about it on this forum again......Its @ this junction I fear the 1k rule

It is now 20 kobo.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mendes911: 2:25pm On May 25, 2018
maishai:

I imagine diamond @ 18k......... I will borrow to mop diamond then I am ready to wait for 6 years for it to rise to #2

Some of us bought BankPHB at 59k.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by aremso(m): 2:28pm On May 25, 2018
Chibuking81:

Foreign investors in action, they don't want to be taking unaware, politician that needed money for both primary and general election are also pulling out to avoid lack of cash due to portfolio reduction, election Bear in action.

This is how MMM took their people unaware, many was planning to leave them by December while they close down by November.
Likewise in stock they know that very soon many will sell to hold on for election, so Foreign investors and politician decided to started early.

LOCODEMY and IHEDIORAMMA are ready and willing to welcome members who wishes to sell and face their business till after election.



I knew this would happen and so bad many were caught unawares. Asian tigers are still pulling out their capital and profits and this they will do till the last cent is pulled out. mind you, the strategy my change next week to cause artificial bulls so that some can still hit their heads then after, they resume back and pull more out so let the bear continue while it last

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by swilo: 2:28pm On May 25, 2018
maishai:

I imagine diamond @ 18k......... I will borrow to mop diamond then I am ready to wait for 6 years for it to rise to #2

Lol,

You are wicked. grin

You even broke the 20k threshold and decided to drag it to 18k. If Diamond Bank sells for 18k, NSEMPA will bail the bank out.

It will be called NSEMPA BANK..
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by maishai: 2:34pm On May 25, 2018
mendes911:


Some of us bought BankPHB at 59k.
Hmmm but it folded up........not only diamond, even Skye bank waiting for them @ 18k abi 20k, for Skye, I will sell at 90k......I am ready for this gamble
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by owoblow77: 2:34pm On May 25, 2018
Why should they cry sir? Niggas lost means of livelihood men, fear & uncertainties.
Mr. Rabbi, have you been able to pull this off personally? Among the factors that you need to pull this off is time & stable income source. You need time to build other stable sources of income that will sufficiently meet your needs . Add being a family man to the equation, the financials go up. You need money & time to build a sustainable, profitable business. If your business fails, you need funds from you salary to jump-start it again, & correct your mistakes. The returns on real estate versus what you invested is small. ''Save up, reduce expenses, invest wisely'', realistically it is difficult. Are your expenses the same when you were a bachelor versus being a new dad? Folks here are trying to invests wisely, yet some are losing good sums. You need a good source of income, to enable build up other sources over time. Did Pa Emma, or Oga Wanaj0 build-up their net-worth in a short while? I believe to do it legitimately, it must be done over time, with a good income flow.
RabbiDoracle:


Why should they cry sir?

Before you joined the company, you lived. Now that they have been laid off, they will still live.

I always advise people never to rely on the firm they work for. Save up, reduce expenses, invest wisely because a day will come when they will tell you to go.

Those who got pay off and also have their own houses, yet they feel the pinch shows that are not prepared.

From day 1, your target should not elude you. Save and spend less.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Chibuking81(m): 2:44pm On May 25, 2018
Godisfaithful:


Which theory be this?
Ask Loco or Peter grin grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by awesomeJ(m): 2:47pm On May 25, 2018
onegentleguy:


Yes its much more humane to strive towards bettering our networth without being unduly pessimistic.
...it would at least show that one is patriotic with a human face and empathetic of the possible plight of others.
However, its normal that in the stock mkt most folks who are out on the sideline with their funds will like to talk down on 'things' to infest fear on those in, so they can key in. ...oftentimes those inputs are exaggerated.
Those not in (the pessimist camp) would deploy several pranks and 'pray' that the mkt drops, so they'll get in at a cheap, while those in (the optimist camp) will tour the path of believing in the opposite.
It's a normal trend that can be seeing in the market globally.
So if as a mkt player, u can not live with this 'normal' trend, then the stock mkt is definitely not for u. ...put differently, the stock mkt globally knows not what it means to have a human face !!
Remember that the pessimist camp are also a part of the mkt circle. ...so u cant exclude them.

The solution?
It calls for some disciplinary measures and emotional management.
That's why I always advise folks to have a WORKABLE STRATEGY that's just good enough to suit their investment style, goals/target and personality.
...and once u have it, just do well to stick religiously to it.
For though u won't be perfect (no one is), but u will to a very large extent know when and how to manage FEAR (with a mkt downturn) and GREED (with a mkt up rise). ...because then, u always have a clear path/guideline to follow.
That way, u wouldn't be bothered about any 'noise' from the pessimist camp !!
That's the simple solution.

There are some select clear opportunities right now in the mkt.

Regards.


From Fidelity at 4.17 to FMN at 37.40. How can merely ignoring post help? You said FMN would reach 70, isn't it the bears that have made projections such as 5th Avenue and 49th boulevard rare these days? Even the frequency of back room revelations too.

The fact is losses aren't fun especially when market is taking from you what it didn't earlier give.

Fxuser was spot on when he talked about reducing position to reduce aches. From about 9%, I'm less than 4% in currently. That's what eases it for me.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mcy56(f): 2:48pm On May 25, 2018
mendes911:
Some of us bought BankPHB at 59k.
....... but has gone with the wind undecided
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by awesomeJ(m): 2:49pm On May 25, 2018
Godisfaithful:


...And we think Naira will go back to 200 per $1 with these type of leadership we have in Nigeria? Anyway, let’s wait and see...
sub 300 is more like it, and I see it happening before next year ends.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by awesomeJ(m): 2:51pm On May 25, 2018
maishai:
By d time this bear finish with diamond bank nobody will fantasize about it on this forum again......Its @ this junction I fear the 1k rule
You mean the 20k rule.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Chibuking81(m): 2:56pm On May 25, 2018
maishai:

Hmmm but it folded up........not only diamond, even Skye bank waiting for them @ 18k abi 20k, for Skye, I will sell at 90k......I am ready for this gamble
When you see such, how much units will you go for?
Will you make them 80% of you portfolio? I doubt, because when they get to that, you will know that folding is nocking at their door.
cool

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by owoblow77: 2:57pm On May 25, 2018
I sold diamond with about 30% loss. In fact, I have sold the 2 companies(dang sugar & diamond) I hold yesterday, at losses. embarassed
maishai:
By d time this bear finish with diamond bank nobody will fantasize about it on this forum again......Its @ this junction I fear the 1k rule
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by onegentleguy: 3:05pm On May 25, 2018
yom2:
thank u my brother, tell them make them hear. even how many jobs could have been created with that milost fund they chased away.

I have read thru ur many post on the defence of certain FPIs particularly Milost inv.
...and believe me Sir, I would've loved to allign with ur reasoning except for the fact that certain guidelines ought to be laid down and followed when pursuing an investment. ...this, both on the part of the FPI and their target companies.
Those core guideline and procedures are a non-negotiable requisite. ...especially if the absence of it would be detrimental to stakeholders.
With JAPAUL and UNITY BANK, it was clear that those were not followed.
I do not think anyone said its bad to have these coys re-awakened via the injection of fresh capital or otherwise.
The crux of the matter was that any such re-awakening should be done the RIGHT WAY.
...that way, stakeholders like u and I would be better off for it, and the companies involved would also be in a better stead in the long run.
Again, u have to understand that the agitation and call for caution stemmed from the fact that most of the said coys were already extensively badly mismanaged. ...they've had very bad managers. (I wish u know about Jegedes antecedents).
...see also how Oando has eroded so much value for investors in years, and many other cases.

Yes there's no doubt that these companies are in need of some form of 'help' but if only u can steer off sentiment and give a recourse to critical thinking, u will observe that some of these so called deals has the bold pegs of SCAM written all over them !! ...U do not need a soothsayer to tell u that the Milost 'folks' were of a very questionable inclination. ...just look deeper.
In all, I do not think the companies or the stakeholders in them would've been better off with the likes of Milost.
"Better to reside in a small kiosk with peace of mind than to be involved in a feast with ill-disposed kings that would later amount to futility !!

When the right FPI with a clear objective, prospect and forward-looking positive intention come up for the companies, investors will give all their support to it.

Cheers.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by awesomeJ(m): 3:08pm On May 25, 2018
Good thing for the index is DANGCEM was still relatively spared by this week's bear. otherwise YTD would have been sub 1%.

Even if someone sees this as a good entry time, I think next week may even be better, and the one after perhaps much better.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Chibuking81(m): 3:08pm On May 25, 2018
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/foreign/africa/269760-south-africans-defrauded-of-80-million-in-cryptocurrency-scam.html

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May 25, 2018Oladeinde Olawoyin
South African Police on Friday said that the authorities are investigating an alleged cryptocurrency scam that defrauded investors of 1 billion rand ($80 million).


The fraud, involving a company named BTC Global, was orchestrated with promises of huge returns that never materialised.

BTC Global allegedly told clients they would earn two per cent per day, 14 per cent a week and 50 per cent in a month.

Reuters reports Friday that a search for the company on the internet showed its services had been suspended. Although, the website lists Steven Twain as the “primary trader”, request for comment sent to an email address listed on the website as belonging to Twain received no response.


“Members of the public are believed to have been targeted as part of the scam and encouraged by agents of BTC Global,” the police said in a statement Friday.

“Some of the investors got paid in terms of the agreement. However, the payments suddenly stopped.”

“This may prove to be the tip of the iceberg with potentially thousands more yet to discover they’ve lost money,” police investigator Yolisa Matakata said.

On Thursday South Africa’s central bank said it was in the process of determining whether cryptocurrencies complied with its financial surveillance and exchange control regulations.


Cryptocurrency is a digital asset designed to work as a medium of exchange that uses cryptography (the art of writing and solving codes) to secure its transactions, control the creation of additional units, and to verify the transfer of assets.

In March, the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) cautioned Nigerians to be wary of investments in the digital currency, stressing that virtual currencies are not legal tender in Nigeria.

The bank said cryptocurrencies such as bitcoin, ripples, monero, litecoin, dogecoin, onecoin and exchanges such as NairaEx were not licensed or regulated by the CBN.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Godisfaithful: 3:09pm On May 25, 2018
awesomeJ:

sub 300 is more like it, and I see it happening before next year ends.

I wish so sir but this is a fantasy...and with this current leadership I doubt it. Sir, don’t let anyone tell you salt is the same as sugar because they look similar grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mendes911: 3:11pm On May 25, 2018
Mcy56:

....... but has gone with the wind undecided

Exactly my point. Buying Diamond at 18k might be same as buying a bank about to be nationalised.

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