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Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by andrew444(m): 1:35pm On May 27, 2018
tesppidd:
why do you think the same thing that happened in 2010 or 2014 will happen again?

Is 2010 and 2018 the same thing?

Read my post again and you will find the answers you seek.

I hope what you said will happen because what you said is my wish.

You suppose know how this balon d or thing dey be.

I am a Barca fan and I want Messi to win it,but Ronaldo won the past 2 just because of the champions league,I hope what you said about the World Cup is true and I will be happy.
Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by obonujoker(m): 1:37pm On May 27, 2018
tesppidd:
I said club world cup.

And I said super cup Is against athletico.


You don't know how to read?

Lol... and you think Athleti will beat Real? grin... you barka fans don't learn.....

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Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by tesppidd: 1:48pm On May 27, 2018
obonujoker:


Lol... and you think Athleti will beat Real? grin... you barka fans don't learn.....
and you think that once real beat athletico they will just hand over ballon dor to ronaldo abi?

clap for yourself.

even if madrid wins athletic and ronaldo flops like last night, nothing for him.

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Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by obonujoker(m): 1:52pm On May 27, 2018
tesppidd:
and you think that once real beat athletico they will just hand over ballon dor to ronaldo abi?

clap for yourself.

even if madrid wins athletic and ronaldo flops like last night, nothing for him.

When Messi lost the final at the world cup, wasn't he awarded the golden ball??

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Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by BlackManta(m): 3:47pm On May 27, 2018
tesppidd:
Now listen carefully

Stop concluding that ronaldo will win ballon dor because he won the champions league

Football is like a biscuit, you never know where it's going to break

The ballon dor race is still very very open

Bookies have declared the world cup favourites to be

Germany
Brazil
Spain
France
Argentina
Belgium

What it means is that any of the above 6 can win it.

If you sit there and declare that Belgium cannot win the world cup then you know nothing about football.

Any one of the above 6 can win it.

When ronaldo win the ballon dor in 2014 he only had one ballon dor and messi had 4.
Ronaldo got a lot of sympathy votes as well at that time.
Today he has got 5 ballon dors.

I bet if Brazil wins the world cup and neymar stars he wins it

If Spain wins the world cup and iniesta shines he wins it

If Belgium wins the world cup and de bryune shines he wins it

If France wins the world cup and Griezman shines he wins it

This isn't 2014.

The ballon dor race remains very open.

I support you bro.

It's so sad that Balon d'or has been reduced to a mere Messi/Ronaldo duopoly.

Balon dor has always been about Messi and Ronaldo.

You be suprised if Neymar wins world cup and Balon dor will still go to Ronaldo or Messi.

Players have been robbed in balon dor so that Messi/Ronaldo duopoly can continue.

Did you know that Iniesta fire spain to world cup glory in 2010 and yet FIFA robbed him and gave Balon dor to Messi.

Did you know that Ribery won a treble with Bayern in 2013....(league title, league cup and UCL) and yet FIFA robbed him and gave Balon dor to Ronaldo.

Did you know that Wesley Sneijder fired Inter Milan to a treble and fired Netherland to world cup final in 2010 and yet FIFA robbed him and gave Balon dor to Messi.

If life was fair.
Messi and Ronaldo wouldn't have won Balon dor 5 times each.

But that is how it is.
There is no justice nowadays.
It's all about favouritism and marketing.

Neymar or Greizmann might win world cup and yet Ronaldo/Messi would still win Balon dor.

The balon dor has been reduced to Messi/Ronaldo personal property.

It's really shameful but you have to get used to it.
Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by tesppidd: 4:00pm On May 27, 2018
obonujoker:


When Messi lost the final at the world cup, wasn't he awarded the golden ball??
wtf wtf are you yapping about?

he won the golden ball because he had played 6 other games before that final.

so how does that apply to a one off super cup?
Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by senatordave1(m): 4:01pm On May 27, 2018
Am a die hard messi fan.to be fair and objective,salah should be awarded the ballon d or.hes been the best player this year.if he doesnt win it,messi may take it because argentina will do better than portugal and egypt
Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by BlackManta(m): 4:02pm On May 27, 2018
obonujoker:


Ronaldo...

5th UCL
UCL golden boot 7th time
44 goals and 11 assists in 43 games
Spanish super copa

still to come...

UEFA super cup ( where he would still win UEFA best player)
World club cup ( where he will likely win the golden ball like last year)

So, Messi chances are slim unless he wins world cup...

You using records from other years.
This year balon dor is about 2018 only.
Ronaldo won 1 UCL in 2018.
His other 4 UCL from other years does not count in 2018 balon dor race so why are bringing it up

7 UCL golden boots does not matter.
He won 1 this year and that is what matters.
His other 6 from other years does not count.
They dont care how many times you won golden boot and UCL.
They only care about the one he won this year.

So to put it better.

2018 balon dor race.

RONALDO

1 UCL
1 golden boot
44 goals 7 assist
Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by BlackManta(m): 4:11pm On May 27, 2018
senatordave1:
Am a die hard messi fan.to be fair and objective,salah should be awarded the ballon d or.hes been the best player this year.if he doesnt win it,messi may take it because argentina will do better than portugal and egypt

Apart from club achievements.

Based on personal perfomance and personal trophies.

Messi no 1
Salah no 2 (a close second)
CR7 no 3

This is what balon dor race should look like until they play world cup.

But sadly no one cares about a players perfomance.
Just win UCL and balon dor is yours.

Messi and Salah played better than CR7 this year.
UCL is the only saving grace that CR7 has.

For me the best player in EPL (a 38 game competition)
The best player in la liga (38 games)

should be ranked higher that the best in UCL ( a 12 game knockout competition)

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Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by obonujoker(m): 4:43pm On May 27, 2018
tesppidd:
wtf wtf are you yapping about?

he won the golden ball because he had played 6 other games before that final.

so how does that apply to a one off super cup?

What qualifies you to play the supercup one off game??

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Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by obonujoker(m): 4:44pm On May 27, 2018
BlackManta:


Apart from club achievements.

Based on personal perfomance and personal trophies.

Messi no 1
Salah no 2 (a close second)
CR7 no 3

This is what balon dor race should look like until they play world cup.

But sadly no one cares about a players perfomance.
Just win UCL and balon dor is yours.

Messi and Salah played better than CR7 this year.
UCL is the only saving grace that CR7 has.

For me the best player in EPL (a 38 game competition)
The best player in la liga (38 games)

should be ranked higher that the best in UCL ( a 12 game knockout competition)

Bros... UCL has been a determining factor of long..until Messi through Blatter changed it in 2010...

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Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by BlackManta(m): 4:54pm On May 27, 2018
obonujoker:


Bros... UCL has been a determining factor of long..until Messi through Blatter changed it in 2010...

Was it also Blatter's fault when Ronaldo won it in 2013 while Ribery was robbed even tho he won a treble incuding UCL

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Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by obonujoker(m): 4:57pm On May 27, 2018
BlackManta:


Was it also Blatter's fault when Ronaldo won it in 2013 while Ribery was robbed even tho he won a treble incuding UCL

Messi started it bro....
Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by fergie001: 4:58pm On May 27, 2018
It's ronaldo's trophy to steal and the world knows it...

We were in the world when in 2010,Messi didn't score a goal in the world cup and Barca didn't win the UCL yet Sneijder was overlooked...his team won the treble,got to the finals and yet no nomination sef...

We were alive when ribery won the treble yet was overlooked....

Unless the world cup goes in Argentina's favour...it's Ronaldo..

These things are decided by votes and is now a popularity contest...

Champions league is the biggest club trophy in the world

To even make it simple,Argentina lost in the finals of the world cup in 2014,yet Ronaldo who won the champions league was preferred for ballon d or.....

Except Argentina and Messi perform a miracle at the world cup,it's going to be ronaldo's...
Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by tesppidd: 4:59pm On May 27, 2018
obonujoker:


What qualifies you to play the supercup one off game??
See wahala Oh!

You said ronaldo still has the super cup to win ballon dor.

Is the super cup a string of 6 or more games that you are comparing to the world cup?

Are you okay at all?

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Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by tesppidd: 5:02pm On May 27, 2018
fergie001:
It's ronaldo's trophy to steal and the world knows it...

We were in the world when in 2010,Messi didn't score a goal in the world cup and Barca didn't win the UCL yet Sneijder was overlooked...his team won the treble,got to the finals and yet no nomination sef...

We were alive when ribery won the treble yet was overlooked....

Unless the world cup goes in Argentina's favour...it's Ronaldo..

These things are decided by votes and is now a popularity contest...

Champions league is the biggest club trophy in the world

To even make it simple,Argentina lost in the finals of the world cup in 2014,yet Ronaldo who won the champions league was preferred for ballon d or.....

Except Argentina and Messi perform a miracle at the world cup,it's going to be ronaldo's...
you have conveniently explained to us how messi robbed sneider but refused to mention ronaldo's name in your post.
you refused to spell it out clearly so lemme help you

'ronaldo robbed ribery in 2014'

say it clearly too.

sense man!
Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by tesppidd: 5:05pm On May 27, 2018
fergie001:
It's ronaldo's trophy to steal and the world knows it...

We were in the world when in 2010,Messi didn't score a goal in the world cup and Barca didn't win the UCL yet Sneijder was overlooked...his team won the treble,got to the finals and yet no nomination sef...

We were alive when ribery won the treble yet was overlooked....

Unless the world cup goes in Argentina's favour...it's Ronaldo..

These things are decided by votes and is now a popularity contest...

Champions league is the biggest club trophy in the world

To even make it simple,Argentina lost in the finals of the world cup in 2014,yet Ronaldo who won the champions league was preferred for ballon d or.....

Except Argentina and Messi perform a miracle at the world cup,it's going to be ronaldo's...
rubbish!

ronaldo needed to excel in the final but he flopped in the semi finals and the final.

If ronaldo and portugal flop at the world cup he is getting nothing.
Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by fergie001: 5:06pm On May 27, 2018
tesppidd:
you have conveniently explained to us how messi robbed sneider but refused to mention ronaldo's name in your post.
you refused to spell it out clearly so lemme help you

'ronaldo robbed ribery in 2014'

say it clearly too.

sense man!
Does it change what I have written?
Let me help you...


We were alive when ribery won the treble and was overlooked on behalf of a Ronaldo......feel better?

So,it's still Ronaldo until the world cup...
That he was the highest goal scorer in this season's champions league makes it even more difficult........that's the fact....

Any other correction?
Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by fergie001: 5:09pm On May 27, 2018
tesppidd:
rubbish!

ronaldo needed to excel in the final but he flopped in the semi finals and the final.

If ronaldo and portugal flop at the world cup he is getting nothing.
So because he flopped at a finals?
Stop this argument...we all watch football...
Don't mislead those who watch sparingly...

In 2010,Barcelona didn't win la-liga
In 2010,Messi didn't score a goal in the world cup
In 2010,Messi didn't score in the semi-finals they eventually lost to winners,Inter..

Yet he won the ballon d or....

Stop this 'yeye' argument,abeg
Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by tesppidd: 5:09pm On May 27, 2018
fergie001:

Does it change what I have written?
Let me help you...


We were alive when ribery won the treble and was overlooked on behalf of a Ronaldo......feel better?

So,it's still Ronaldo until the world cup...
That he was the highest goal scorer in this season's champions league makes it even more difficult........that's the fact....

Any other correction?
ronaldo flipped in the most important stages the semi finals and the final.

he is only the favourite in your mind.

the final was less than 24 hours ago,

7 days from today you will realize that both messi and ronaldo are favourites until the world cup.

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Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by tesppidd: 5:11pm On May 27, 2018
fergie001:

So because he flopped at a finals?
Stop this argument...we all watch football...
Don't mislead those who watch sparingly...

In 2010,Barcelona didn't win la-liga
In 2010,Messi didn't score a goal in the world cup
In 2010,Messi didn't score in the semi-finals they eventually lost to winners,Inter..

Yet he won the ballon d or....

Stop this 'yeye' argument,abeg
Lai Mohammed.

2010

*Messi won la liga
*Messi won the pichichi with 34 goals
*Messi won the european golden shoe with 34 goals
*Messi was champions league top scorer with 8 goals
*Messi was top scorer in all competitions with 47 goals
*Messi scored 4 goals against arsenal

Ignorance is a disease!

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Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by obonujoker(m): 5:14pm On May 27, 2018
tesppidd:
See wahala Oh!

You said ronaldo still has the super cup to win ballon dor.

Is the super cup a string of 6 or more games that you are comparing to the world cup?

Are you okay at all?

The super cup is a match between the UCL winner and Europa winner... Clearly Ronaldo was the best player in the UCL this season, so not scoring in the super cup, doesn't diminish his chances at the ballondor.... Just pray Messi wins the world cup, that is the only hope for him to win the ballondor...

We know its who wins the UCL that wins the ballondor....

Messi this season..
Laliga and copa del rey
Pichichi golden boot
55 games 45 goals 11 assist
European golden boot

Ronaldo this season

UCL
UCL golden boot
44 games 44 goals 7 assists
Spanish super copa

Still to come.... UEFA super cup and UEFA best player and forward....
Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by obonujoker(m): 5:16pm On May 27, 2018
tesppidd:
Lai Mohammed.

2010

*Messi won la liga
*Messi won the pichichi with 34 goals
*Messi won the european golden shoe with 34 goals
*Messi was champions league top scorer with 8 goals
*Messi scored 4 goals against arsenal

Ignorance is a disease!

Lol... buh he didn't perform at the UCL and world cup, yet he won the ballondor...buh you don't want Ronaldo to win it this year... you be ika o....
Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by fergie001: 5:17pm On May 27, 2018
[quote author=tesppidd post=67932176]Lai Mohammed.

2010

*Messi won la liga
*Messi won the pichichi with 34 goals
*Messi won the european golden shoe with 34 goals
*Messi was champions league top scorer with 8 goals
*Messi scored 4 goals against arsenal

Ignorance is a disease![/quot
2014,I meant.....
Now you have called your mentor...
Some of us know you from politics section,but I thought your violence will end there....
And it's your likes who will blame Ramos ooooo
See how you are attacking everyone as if you decide the voting,sorry oooo
I won't engage you anymore.....

Bye-bye,you can give it to Messi nah..
Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by fergie001: 5:19pm On May 27, 2018
obonujoker:


The super cup is a match between the UCL winner and Europa winner... Clearly Ronaldo was the best player in the UCL this season, so not scoring in the super cup, doesn't diminish his chances at the ballondor.... Just pray Messi wins the world cup, that is the only hope for him to win the ballondor...

We know its who wins the UCL that wins the ballondor....

Messi this season..
Laliga and copa del rey
Pichichi golden boot
55 games 45 goals 11 assist
European golden boot

Ronaldo this season

UCL
UCL golden boot
44 games 44 goals 7 assists
Spanish super copa

Still to come.... UEFA super cup and UEFA best player and forward....

You know him from politics section...
Please do not engage him anymore...
Football is a game of sports...
You can see how he is attacking everybody like he decides the voting.......no bother yourself unless you get time
Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by Misterdhee1(m): 5:30pm On May 27, 2018
fergie001:
It's ronaldo's trophy to steal and the world knows it...

We were in the world when in 2010,Messi didn't score a goal in the world cup and Barca didn't win the UCL yet Sneijder was overlooked...his team won the treble,got to the finals and yet no nomination sef...

We were alive when ribery won the treble yet was overlooked....

Unless the world cup goes in Argentina's favour...it's Ronaldo..

These things are decided by votes and is now a popularity contest...

Champions league is the biggest club trophy in the world

To even make it simple,Argentina lost in the finals of the world cup in 2014,yet Ronaldo who won the champions league was preferred for ballon d or.....

Except Argentina and Messi perform a miracle at the world cup,it's going to be ronaldo's...
Lol. You already countered yourself in yiur second points. Ribery won the treble nd wasnt given. So ronaldo wouldnt also be given this year cos he wasnt the best player. World cup will determine who wins Balon d'or this year. Except fifa want to celebrate mediocrity
Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by fergie001: 5:31pm On May 27, 2018
Misterdhee1:

Lol. You already countered yourself in yiur second points. Ribery won the treble nd wasnt given. So ronaldo wouldnt also be given this year cos he wasnt the best player. World cup will determine who wins Balon d'or this year. Except fifa want to celebrate mediocrity
Did FIFA celebrate mediocrity in 2010 and 2014?it's just a yes or no?
Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by Misterdhee1(m): 5:33pm On May 27, 2018
obonujoker:


The super cup is a match between the UCL winner and Europa winner... Clearly Ronaldo was the best player in the UCL this season, so not scoring in the super cup, doesn't diminish his chances at the ballondor.... Just pray Messi wins the world cup, that is the only hope for him to win the ballondor...

We know its who wins the UCL that wins the ballondor....

Messi this season..
Laliga and copa del rey
Pichichi golden boot
55 games 45 goals 11 assist
European golden boot

Ronaldo this season

UCL
UCL golden boot
44 games 44 goals 7 assists
Spanish super copa

Still to come.... UEFA super cup and UEFA best player and forward....

How is ronaldo the best player in ucl this season? He was off in both legs in the semi final and had no input atall in the final. So is he automatically the best player cos he scored against Juve?
Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by Misterdhee1(m): 5:36pm On May 27, 2018
fergie001:

Did FIFA celebrate mediocrity in 2010 and 2014?it's just a yes or no?
How? Ribery wasnt given in 2014 when he won ucl becuase the win was more of a team effort than an individual performance. Ronaldo was clearly more spectacular then. Sneijder wasnt also given in 2010 when he won ucl cos of prolly the same reason. Messi led all the stats chart that same season. So why should ronaldo be given in 2018 when he wasnt any spectacular?

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Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by tesppidd: 5:44pm On May 27, 2018
obonujoker:


Lol... buh he didn't perform at the UCL and world cup, yet he won the ballondor...buh you don't want Ronaldo to win it this year... you be ika o....
there is no rule that says that only the champions league determines the ballon dor.
league titles and individual records do as well, just like ronaldo in 2013.

but in a world cup year, the world cup is a major determinant.

if ronaldo had an excellent game last night I would call him the favourite.

but because he flopped in the semi finals and the final,

the ballon dor is wide open.
Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by fergie001: 5:50pm On May 27, 2018
Misterdhee1:

How? Ribery wasnt given in 2014 when he won ucl becuase the win was more of a team effort than an individual performance. Ronaldo was clearly more spectacular then. Sneijder wasnt also given in 2010 when he won ucl cos of prolly the same reason. Messi led all the stats chart that same season. So why should ronaldo be given in 2018 when he wasnt any spectacular?
So there was no mediocrity,it was justified,right?
So the same thing that applied to Messi in 2010 applied to Ronaldo in 2014?
Messi won the la-liga that season,but you and I know the UCL is the biggest platform in club football...
He lost to a Sneijder-inspired Inter...
Do you also know he won the treble?
Do you also know he won the Super cup?
Do you also know he was the joint top-scorer at that world cup?
I mean Sneijder...

You and I know it was Sneijder and Ribery's years....
But Ronaldo and Messi complicates football.....
On another night,with another club.....nobody will care..

But with Ronaldo,top scorer at the UCL
44goals in 43 games

Forget it,he will win it this year....unless Argentina makes a big statement cos I do not think Portugal would...

This is a popularity contest...and it's ronaldo v Messi.....

These days,it's trophies at the big stage
Goals at the big stage...
These are the things that matter and the politics that attach.....

Pre-2010,the world cup decides the ballon d or,but it's now an era where popularity and trophies at the big stage counts...
Re: Between Ronaldo And Messi, Who Do You Think Deserves This Year's Balon D'or by IamNegan: 6:01pm On May 27, 2018
Please forget all this ororo messi argument...
Let's see what will happen in Russia... That's the deciding factor...







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