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Re: Can Somebody Explain To Me How We Arrived At The Name "Jesus"? by Maamin(m): 10:10am On Jun 06, 2018 |
nwabekeyi: You couldn't even admit you were wrong about the origin of the name 'Moses'. Saying the meaning of the name is different is ridiculous...translitrlerations could change the letters from one language to another but meaning might remain the same. Which you have been provided answers to already. |
Re: Can Somebody Explain To Me How We Arrived At The Name "Jesus"? by Maamin(m): 10:13am On Jun 06, 2018 |
nwabekeyi: The meaning has been given to you already but you choose to prolong and make argument out of nothing. May you find what you are looking for Shalom! 1 Like |
Re: Can Somebody Explain To Me How We Arrived At The Name "Jesus"? by tintingz(m): 10:28am On Jun 06, 2018 |
In Islam and Arabic Jesus is referred to Isa or Yisa. I think that's closely related to Hebrew and Aramaic (Semitic). |
Re: Can Somebody Explain To Me How We Arrived At The Name "Jesus"? by vaxx: 11:01am On Jun 06, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff:Yes but am still a student willing to learn, but i think the angle apologetic use in claiming bible is written both in Hebrew and Greek respectively and hence if a reader must appreciate it, he will need to further his understanding in these language is a little tricky and a way to cover the truth, this was also the claim of the catholic in the middle ages when the entire bible was available in Latin apart from the two main primary source, the church do claim people needs Latin understanding to get what really the bible is portraying . but in this days of internet, it is easier to search for the meaning of a language now. a little google search will do justice. i respect your theological intelligence and that is why i mentioned u. |
Re: Can Somebody Explain To Me How We Arrived At The Name "Jesus"? by lilliesboy(m): 11:06am On Jun 06, 2018 |
MuttleyLaff:No, we are getting mouthy like a six-year-old imbec*le waiting for a saviour named jesus. |
Re: Can Somebody Explain To Me How We Arrived At The Name "Jesus"? by Nobody: 11:15am On Jun 06, 2018 |
Maamin:the meaning of Yeshua was given not Jesus, I don't like arguments too, I just want to be clarified about it as this is a religious issue and people don't just give transliteration that doesn't correlate with the version of the name. If Christians ask questions, they would have asked why most of the Latin words doesn't correlate with their original Jewish origin, but no, you accept everything by Faith |
Re: Can Somebody Explain To Me How We Arrived At The Name "Jesus"? by Nobody: 11:18am On Jun 06, 2018 |
Maamin:I will accept I'm wrong if you can prove it, it doesn't take anything away from me, I'm also learning. Moses in Hebrew and Egypt has different meanings irrespective of the transliteration |
Re: Can Somebody Explain To Me How We Arrived At The Name "Jesus"? by Maamin(m): 4:16pm On Jun 06, 2018 |
nwabekeyi: You on the other hand, have you shown or prove that the transliteration of Yeshua to Jesus does not correlate? Where is your evidence? |
Re: Can Somebody Explain To Me How We Arrived At The Name "Jesus"? by Nobody: 4:31pm On Jun 06, 2018 |
Maamin:its simple, yeshua means salvation What does Jesus mean? |
Re: Can Somebody Explain To Me How We Arrived At The Name "Jesus"? by Maamin(m): 7:08pm On Jun 06, 2018 |
nwabekeyi: I'm now using your logic against you... How did you come about that Yeshua means salvation? You need to explain further please |
Re: Can Somebody Explain To Me How We Arrived At The Name "Jesus"? by Nobody: 7:24pm On Jun 06, 2018 |
Maamin:because that is the pronunciation of salvation in Semitic Hebrew, so what language is Jesus? |
Re: Can Somebody Explain To Me How We Arrived At The Name "Jesus"? by Nobody: 9:02pm On Jun 06, 2018 |
Maamin:my friend, stop the game, its not a joking matter. What dies jesus means and in what language? |
Re: Can Somebody Explain To Me How We Arrived At The Name "Jesus"? by Maamin(m): 9:52pm On Jun 06, 2018 |
nwabekeyi: Basically, what this means is that Joshua and Jesus are the same name. One is translated from Hebrew into English(Joshua), the other from Greek into English(Jesus). It is also interesting to note, the names "Joshua" and "Isaiah" are essentially the same names as Yeshua in Hebrew. They mean "Savior" and "the salvation of the Lord." In German, our English word for book is "buch." In Spanish, it becomes a "libro;" in French, a "livre." The language changes, but the object itself does not and that is the most important thing. In the same way, we can refer to Jesus as “Jesus,” “Yeshua,” or “YehSou” (Cantonese), without changing His nature. In any language, His name means “the Lord is Salvation.” Those who argue and insist we call Jesus by his correct name, Yeshua, such as yourself are only concerning themselves with trivial, non-essential matters. I was once at this very stage you are right now. The Bible doesn't give preeminence to one language (or translation) over another. Man does this not God. Beside was it not God who separated the word from speaking in one tongue? Whatever language you seek him in truth he will surely hear you. |
Re: Can Somebody Explain To Me How We Arrived At The Name "Jesus"? by Nobody: 10:06pm On Jun 06, 2018 |
Maamin:why must we pray in that one translitered from Greek instead of the one from the original Hebrew? It really does sound awkward having two different names do one person, now I ask do we stick to that of the original Jew or that translitered from Greek? |
Re: Can Somebody Explain To Me How We Arrived At The Name "Jesus"? by Maamin(m): 10:57pm On Jun 06, 2018 |
nwabekeyi: Like I said, whichever language is convenient for you to use does not matter in God's sight |
Re: Can Somebody Explain To Me How We Arrived At The Name "Jesus"? by Sheridale(f): 2:00am On Jun 07, 2018 |
Anatomy of Experiment No. 49 - Psychic Diagnosis First Method Summary (Defending AMORC against Pierre S. Freeman Critics) This diagnosis through this procedure works because the aura of an ailing person exerts a special type of influence on our own aura. This influence stimulates our hypothalamus and its surrounding area. In response to this stimulus the hypothalamus gives rise to the impression of heat or coolness that manifests in the right or left hand, having followed the pathway of the radial nerve in the corresponding areas in the brain. If you would like to see results for yourself, then I recommend that you study the monograph and practice meticulously with great focus and perform a successful diagnosis. ___________________________________________________________ First Method Anatomy This is the anatomy of the first experiment which can be found in the Section Initiate Degree 7, Monograph 1. This exercise is one of two experiments that are taught by the class master to help healers diagnose patient’s psychic body. This first experiment will help us find where the illness is and how it should be treated. Again, this is something that takes practice and patience like most things in life. For anyone who has never read, tried or even heard of this before, it is actually a procedure that is used by a lot of spiritualistic healers. It can be considered a “placing on of hands” in a really broad sense but I’m not talking about priest in a tent here. It is more of an aura cleansing ritual. The exercise works because when a person is ill their aura will interact with ours. What’s special about this exercise is that it works through the sensation of warmth or coolness. The interaction of the ill person’s aura works by stimulating our hypothalamus and in return our hypothalamus gives a response by the feeling of warmth or coolness in the right or left hand. These types of exercises (and we call them that because you should be doing them always or as much as possible, because we will never stop learning new things about others or ourselves), do take practice and meditation to achieve successful results. So don’t let anyone tell you it doesn’t work until you’ve achieved it because those people may not have had the drive or patience. These people like Pierre S. Freeman who claim to have spent two decades as a member of the AMORC order, are proof that without patience and diligent practice you won’t get results. To find out the details regarding the experiment and how it is exactly done, refer to the monograph. You will find a comprehensive instructional explanation of the steps, invocations and other requirements involved. This diagnosis through this procedure works because the aura of an ailing person exerts a special type of influence on our own aura. This influence stimulates our hypothalamus and its surrounding area. In response to this stimulus the hypothalamus gives rise to the impression of heat or coolness that manifests in the right or left hand, having followed the pathway of the radial nerve in the corresponding areas in the brain. If you would like to see results for yourself, then I recommend that you study the monograph and practice meticulously with great focus and perform a successful diagnosis. Support AMORC at : www.watchingout4AMORC.org Please like us on facebook at https://www.facebook.com/watchingout4AMORC/
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Re: Can Somebody Explain To Me How We Arrived At The Name "Jesus"? by Nobody: 6:45pm On Jun 10, 2018 |
nwabekeyi:Jesus is a European term for Iyasus. Here in Ethiopia ppl refer him Iyasus Krestos (Jesus Christ for Europeans). |
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