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Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by kingston277(m): 5:27pm On Apr 07, 2015
wildikeman:
None of the link u provided has opened o.
Uh are you on a flip phone or something? It opened just fine on both my computer and tablet(can anybody else test it?).

wildikeman:
Now its impossible to use wood or canoe to convert it into a submarine. Do you know what it is? An underwater technology o.
Do you even know what a submarine is, or its history, or even how the material a submarines is made out of connects with the fact that its "underwater technology o."? the oldest submarines were made out of wood. Africans were experts in boat and canoe making. Its been all but confirmed they made submarines by colonial officials themselves. Get on another machine and read the link.

wildikeman:
Now as for the voting thing I stand to be corrected. Yes perhaps some tribes did have election amongst its people. But the sacrifice own is so true. People were being sacrificed even up to today. Here is a link www.executedtoday.com/2011/06/28/1899-ologbosere-benin-empire/...we can't gloat over such. This are facts its even going on till today!
Maybe you have missed the part about colonialism and cultural corruption. The info in the capital punishment link I provided is not only common knowledge across the internet, but the book featured is written by an anthropologist and reviewed by people who studied the culture. Even the people themselves state that pre-colonial "sacrifice" was only limited to outcasts/criminals, not innocent citizens.
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by igbo2011(m): 10:27pm On Apr 25, 2015
nedu2000:
Biblically,some say Ham,son of Noah who was cursed to always be beneath his brothers Shem and Japhet is the father of the negro race.

That is wrong...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yK3EdnC9Vs

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Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by igbo2011(m): 10:29pm On Apr 25, 2015

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Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by leederrty1997: 6:32am On Apr 28, 2015
We should not be in a hurry, we should believe that Africa will one day develop too, although, it might not be our generation any more, but have it at d back of ur mind dat Africa will develop.

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Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by urahara(m): 9:38am On Oct 29, 2018
psucc:
Don't misrepresent facts.

Africa developed spiritually and oyingbo developed physically.

How many Whitman can fly from Naija to America and back the same night?

Development na development.

Lmao grin grin
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by urahara(m): 4:44am On Nov 01, 2018
bebe2:


Long story

Why we con backward like this?


LmFao cheesy grin
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by urahara(m): 6:29am On Nov 01, 2018
nora544:


please when you write something than lok what you write

since when is Beethoven who was described as a 'blackamor' a black man such a stupid writing.

The oldest Universities are in fes is from 800 and kairo and bagdad, the university in mali is since 988

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sankore_Madrasah
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universit%C3%A4t_al-Qaraw%C4%ABy%C4%ABn
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Mustansiriyya-Universit%C3%A4t

and the oldest university of europa is not in spain it is in italiy in salerno
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schola_Medica_Salernitana
and the other old university is in Bologna in italy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Bologna

the moors are not black africans this are the people from nord africa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moors

since when is jesus black when you see the people from israel than you know the color of the skin

The moors are not black the moors are arab and it comes from a country

The Romans interacted with (and later conquered) parts of Mauretania, a state that covered modern Morocco, western Algeria, and the Spanish cities Ceuta and Melilla during the classical period. The people of the region were noted in Classical literature as Mauri, which was subsequently rendered as "Moors" in English.[9] It is often common in modern times to apply the appellation of "Moor" or "Moors" to North Africans, especially Moroccans, although some find this derogatory.

Isidore of Seville, writing in the seventh century, claimed that the Latin word Maurus was derived from the Greek mauron, μαύρον, which is the Greek word for black.[10]
Modern meanings

In the Medieval Romance languages (such as Spanish, French, Italian, Portuguese, Romanian), the Latin word took such forms as moro, moir, mor, mouro and maur. From denoting a specific Berber people in western Libya, the name acquired more general meaning in the Romance languages during the medieval period, partly developing a general meaning of "Muslim", partly (much like "Saracens"wink taking a religious meaning of "infidels" in the context of the Crusades and the Reconquista.

Beside its usage in historical context, Moor and Moorish (Italian and Spanish: moro, French: maure, Portuguese: mouro, Romanian: maur) are used to designate an ethnic group speaking the Hassaniya Arabic dialect. They inhabit Mauritania and parts of Algeria, Moroccan Sahara, Tunisia, Morocco, Niger and Mali. In Niger and Mali, these peoples are also known as the Azawagh Arabs, after the Azawagh region of the Sahara.[11]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moors read this than you will see that moors are arab people and not black africans


Is it that sub Saharan African kingdoms are so underwhelming that a lot of blacks are forced to claim that Moors and egyptains and Greeks were black.

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Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by Nobody: 8:45am On Nov 01, 2018
Interesting video infography about african kingdoms from -5000 BC until 2018


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzKejJIwieE
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by morpheus24: 3:05pm On Nov 01, 2018
urahara:



Is it that sub Saharan African kingdoms are so underwhelming that a lot of blacks are forced to claim that Moors and egyptains and Greeks were black.

Well technically speaking Moors and Egyptians had stocks of sub Saharan peoples so it is not incorrect to conclude that there were black people from these ethnic groups.

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Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by urahara(m): 5:53pm On Nov 01, 2018
morpheus24:


Well technically speaking Moors and Egyptians had stocks of sub Saharan peoples so it is not incorrect to conclude that there were black people from these ethnic groups.


Abeggggiiii


These lies have been thoroughly debunked time and time again
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by morpheus24: 6:30pm On Nov 01, 2018
urahara:



Abeggggiiii


These lies have been thoroughly debunked time and time again


What part of the statement are lies, pray enlighten my ignorance?

SMH

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Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by bluke(m): 3:15pm On Nov 05, 2018
thisisayus:
We were busy selling our brains and hefty men into slavery to built the then expensive mud houses, to purchase schnapps and marry the then beautiful girls, to purchase horses, domestic servants...

Up till date, the process is still on! A friend told me ts our culture.

Even if the whites/europeans decide to sleep for 100yrs (which is not possible) we'll never overtake them.


Africa and Africans do not care about the future but are interested in present gain.


by walter rodney.


yes,
who were the first to accept them?
they are the ones ruling us now.



Europe never underdeveloped Africa, Africans underdeveloped African!

Ts only in Africa that some1 will steal billions and you'll still see some blockbrained fellas shouting "Till 2019" and some other unimaginable things. Did europe cause those?
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by Ndipe(m): 10:21pm On Nov 05, 2018
I think this development between various continents is just cyclical. Every continent has its peaks and valleys. At one point Africa held centerstage in the world when you look at the pyramids, the exploits of Mansa Musa, the Benin Empire with its man made structure that was longer than the Great Wall of China. Europe also had its peaks with the Roman Empire, and I am sure others did. Nothing is ever permanent or no country can be dominant forever.
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by Sladem05: 9:20pm On Apr 23
seankafor:
what africa is perfect is what we call black magic aka juju. Thats their own science

Stupidity you mean 🤣
Re: Where Was Africa When The World Was Developing ? by Sladem05: 9:23pm On Apr 23
bigfrancis21:


Oh ye black man. Brainwashed into believing he is inferior. Echoing racial subjugation cliches purposefully orchestrated to mentally subjugate him as inferior.

Listen, Civilization started from Africa. The earliest human civilization started in Egypt at about 3000BC when the ancient black egyptians gathered together to form a civilization, out of which came the egyptian pyramids (an architectural wonder of sort with to such a wonderful precision which still dazzles modern science of today), mathematics, philosophy, astrology, philosophy etc. Egypt was at its might during ancient times and can be likened to the position of America in the world today. Nationals from Rome, Greece, Persia, paid visits to Egypt to learn from her civilization. The earliest 'white' civilization is traced to the Romans and Greeks who were to surface in world history in 800BC i.e. about 2200 years after the Egyptian civilization. The Romans and Greeks learned from Egyptian temple priests and took their knowledge with them back to Rome and Greece where they wrote their books and equally admitted in their books that they learned from the egyptian priests first hand. Ancient Egyptians were already practising mathematics (the pythagoras theorem with which they used to build the pyramids. The pythagoras theory in mathematics which is wrongly attributed to Pythagoras actually came from the Egyptians for they knew that the longest side of a right angled triangle can be taken from the square root of the sum of the squares of the lengths of the other 2 sides. They had formulas for finding the area of shapes etc). 2000 years later, Egypt was invaded by the romans, their temples destroyed and their books and knowledge carted away. Egypt fell under Roman occupation and became a colony of Rome from about 300BC to 4AD/5AD when the Roman empire fell and Europe was plunged into intellectual darkness.

Thus the Romans lost the knowledge which they had learned from the Egyptians, marking the beginning of the dark ages (also known as the middle ages - a period characterized by stuntness in growth of useful world learning and advancement) until year 711 when the black moors of North Africa who were Muslims invaded Spain through the Strait of Gibraltar and conquered Spain, Portugal and the Southern Part of France, establishing the Islam religion in Iberia (Portugal, Spain, France). The moors took knowledge with them to Europe and brought again learning and civilization to Europe.

The Spanish occupation by the Moors began in 711 AD when an African army, under their leader Tariq ibn-Ziyad, crossed the Strait of Gibraltar from northern Africa and invaded the Iberian peninsula ‘Andalus' (Spain under the Visigoths).

2. A European scholar sympathetic to the Spaniards remembered the conquest in this way:

a. [T]he reins of their (Moors) horses were as fire, their faces black as pitch, their eyes shone like burning candles, their horses were swift as leopards and the riders fiercer than a wolf in a sheepfold at night . . . The noble Goths [the German rulers of Spain to whom Roderick belonged] were broken in an hour, quicker than tongue can tell. Oh luckless Spain! [i]

[i] Quoted in Edward Scobie, The Moors and Portugal's Global Expansion, in Golden Age of the Moor, ed Ivan Van Sertima, US, Transaction Publishers, 1992, p.336

3. The Moors, who ruled Spain for 800 years, introduced new scientific techniques to Europe, such as an astrolabe, a device for measuring the position of the stars and planets. Scientific progress in Astronomy, Chemistry, Physics, Mathematics, Geography and Philosophy flourished in Moorish Spain

4. Basil Davidson, one of the most noted historians recognized and declared that there were no lands at that time (the eighth century) "more admired by its neighbours, or more comfortable to live in, than a rich African civilization which took shape in Spain"

5. At its height, Córdova, the heart of Moorish territory in Spain, was the most modern city in Europe. The streets were well-paved, with raised sidewalks for pedestrians. During the night, ten miles of streets were well illuminated by lamps. (This was hundreds of years before there was a paved street in Paris or a street lamp in London.) Cordova had 900 public baths - we are told that a poor Moor would go without bread rather than soap!

6. The Great Mosque of Córdoba (La Mezquita) is still one of the architectural wonders of the world in spite of later Spanish disfigurements. Its low scarlet and gold roof, supported by 1,000 columns of marble, jasper and and porphyry, was lit by thousands of brass and silver lamps which burned perfumed oil.

7. Education was universal in Moorish Spain, available to all, while in Christian Europe ninety-nine percent of the population were illiterate, and even kings could neither read nor write. At that time, Europe had only two universities, the Moors had seventeen great universities! These were located in Almeria, Cordova, Granada, Juen, Malaga, Seville, and Toledo.

8. In the tenth and eleventh centuries, public libraries in Europe were non-existent, while Moorish Spain could boast of more than seventy, of which the one in Cordova housed six hundred thousand manuscripts.

9. Over 4,000 Arabic words and Arabic-derived phrases have been absorbed into the Spanish language. Words beginning with "al," for example, are derived from Arabic. Arabic words such as algebra, alcohol, chemistry, nadir, alkaline, and cipher entered the language. Even words such as checkmate, influenza, typhoon, orange, and cable can be traced back to Arabic origins.

10. The most significant Moorish musician was known as Ziryab (the Blackbird) who arrived in Spain in 822. The Moors introduced earliest versions of several instruments, including the Lute or el oud, the guitar or kithara and the Lyre. Ziryab changed the style of eating by breaking meals into separate courses beginning with soup and ending with desserts.

11. The #Moors introduced paper to Europe and Arabic numerals, which replaced the clumsy Roman system.

12. The Moors introduced many new crops including the orange, lemon, peach, apricot, fig, sugar cane, dates, ginger and pomegranate as well as saffron, sugar cane, cotton, silk and rice which remain some of Spain's main products today.

13. The Moorish rulers lived in sumptuous palaces, while the monarchs of Germany, France, and England dwelt in big barns, with no windows and no chimneys, and with only a hole in the roof for the exit of smoke. One such Moorish palace ‘Alhambra' (literally "the red one"wink in Granada is one of Spain's architectural masterpieces. Alhambra was the seat of Muslim rulers from the 13th century to the end of the 15th century. The Alhambra is a UNESCO World Heritage Site

14. It was through Africa that the new knowledge of China, India, and Arabia reached Europe The #Moors brought the Compass from China into Europe.

15. The Moors ruled and occupied Lisbon (named "Lashbuna" by the Moors) and the rest of the country until well into the twelfth century. They were finally defeated and driven out by the forces of King Alfonso Henriques. The scene of this battle was the Castelo de Sao Jorge or the 'Castle of St. George.'


Moorish Chief


Spain (Europe) and Morocco (Africa) are so close together that you can see both countries from each side of each continent:
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http://i.imgur.com/9NTwF.jpg?1[/img]


You could literally cross over from Morocco into Spain by speed boat in less than 10 minutes.

The Moors brought enormous learning to Spain that over centuries would percolate through the rest of Europe.

The intellectual achievements of the Moors in Spain had a lasting effect; education was universal in Moorish Spain, while in Christian Europe, 99 percent of the population was illiterate, and even kings could neither read nor write. At a time when Europe had only two universities, the Moors had seventeen, located in Almeria, Cordova, Granada, Juen, Malaga, Seville, and Toledo.

In the 10th and 11th centuries, public libraries in Europe were non-existent, while Moorish Spain could boast of more than 70, including one in Cordova that housed hundreds of thousands of manuscripts. Universities in Paris and Oxford were established after visits by scholars to Moorish Spain.

It was this system of education, taken to Europe by the Moors, that seeded the European Renaissance and brought the continent out of the 1,000 years of intellectual and physical gloom of the Middle Ages.

After the end of the Moorish period in Iberia (Europe) came the Renaissance period, marked by the revival of interest and learning in arts and science. Europe grew and expanded ever since.

The Moors ruled for over 800 years in Europe until 1492 when they were finally expelled from Spain by Isabella back to Morocco. By 1800 America (the new world) was coming into world power. The expellation of the moors (blacks) was a great victory for the whites in the history of whites. The period of Moorish presence in Spain began the signification of 'black' as evil (the domination of islam over christianity in spain and consequently 'black', being the colour of the moors, being synonymous with the islam religion), thus giving birth to the earliest racial sentiments against the black people. It is said that before the Moors left they handed over a map of how to get to the Americas. 8 months later in 1492 using the map handed over to him, Columbus set out for his voyage to America (the new world) where he met the Red Indians. Transatlantic slavery of black africans was soon to start immediately, in early 1500s and reaching its peak between 1600 and 1700s and ending in the 1800s.

The dominion of the blacks in spain was something europe was never to have again. Thus began the subjugation of the black african people as 'lower' beings, blotting of the african history and rewriting of history, attribution of earliest human inventions to people of caucasian origin (philosophy attributed to aristotle who mentioned that he learned from the egyptians, pythagoras theorem which the ancient egyptians used in building the pyramids attributed pythagoras a greek man etc), the attempts to 'white-wash' ancient egypt and claim its civilization to be 'white' civilization or non-african or 'aryan' despite overwhelming evidence seen from the mummies of dead pharoahs, egyptian depictions of themselves as a black people, egyptian reference to themselves as 'kemet' (black, khawm, ham), DNA and skin test evidence performed on some of these mummies that revealed sub-saharan ancestry and high melanin pigmentation (blacks have high melanin content in their skin, whites lack melanin. Melanin is responsible for the colouration of the human body) etc that prove the ancient egyptians were a black people.

One of the earliest universities in the world is the University of Timbuktu in Mali but you will never hear of this part of history. It has been totally ignored and sidelined and European universities glorified instead.

The Renaissance period of Europe saw the representation of several African figures as whites. In Christianity, Jesus Christ and His Mother, Mary, who were black were represented as white people. The Pope in Rome, obviously knowing the truth, prays in front of a black mother mary and baby jesus. Beethoven who was described as a 'blackamor' is said to have been represented as 'white'. The 18th century saw the rise and spread of white superiority and black inferiority theories all over Europe and America. Several tactics have been used to ingrain mentally into the black people of some 'inferiority' complex, which unfortunately till today, majority of blacks are still suffering from it. They have been told several times without number that they are 'inferior' and incapable of performing great things that they have come to believe it as true. Infact, some blacks would not even want to attempt greatness or invention because they believe their brains are incapable of doing such.

Till today, blacks are still suffering from this mentality and there has been several calls for blacks to emancipate themselves from mental slavery. You are no longer physically bound by chains but mentally you still think you are. However, some blacks are beginning to awaken to their original self. With knowledge, self-realization is restored, and there comes with it power of the mind and self.

http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/10/07/when-black-men-ruled-the-world-moors/

You aware that North Africa was actually Black till the Romans, Greeks and Arabs came along. Africa was always behind the rest of the world. There is no sub-Saharan African civilisation that was a rival to the ones in Europe like the Romans and Greeks or Mesoamerica like Aztecs and Incas or the Middle East.

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