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And He Disappoints Us? by FatherCHRISTMAS(f): 12:44pm On Dec 21, 2018
expectations in life.

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Re: And He Disappoints Us? by solutionmi: 12:48pm On Dec 21, 2018
God can never disappoint may be your time never come.

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Re: And He Disappoints Us? by pressplay411(m): 12:50pm On Dec 21, 2018
FatherCHRISTMAS:
During this week I was hoping and praying for a turn around in certain circumstances I have found myslef. I fasted and prayed but at the end I was disappointed.
I think it's fair to say everything we have being told while growing up is a lie. I put so much trust in God for a long time and I have never benefited from such saith and trust.

I thought so too.
Truly, from my new understanding, the things we usually think we want are usually not in our best interest. James 4:3
The best prayer is to know what God wants for you.
When you pray with understanding of God's will for you and trust His will is best and perfect for you.
You will realise all your prayers get answered.
God is not man, that He should lie. Numbers 23:19
His ears are not dull, that he cannot hear us.
Nor is His hand short to deliver us. Isaiah 59:1

The best thing that can happen to a believer is to pray to always know the Will of God. 1John 5:14-15
This will not only open your eyes to happenings and people around you, but will also teach you patience.

God remains ever Faithful.
God bless us all.

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Re: And He Disappoints Us? by Originakalokalo(m): 12:54pm On Dec 21, 2018
pressplay411:


I thought so too.
Truly, from my new understanding, the things we usually think we want are usually not in our best interest.
The best prayer is to know what God wants for you.
When you pray with understanding of God's will for you and trust His will is best and perfect for you.
You will realise all your prayers get answered.
God is not man, that He should lie.
His ears are not dull, that he cannot hear us.
Nor is His hand short to deliver us.

The best thing that can happen to a believer is to pray to always know the Will of God.
This will not only open your eyes to happenings and people around you, but will also teach you patience.

God remains ever Faithful.
God bless us all.

You have said what I wanted to say.

Nothing more.

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Re: And He Disappoints Us? by Originakalokalo(m): 12:57pm On Dec 21, 2018
FatherCHRISTMAS:
During this week I was hoping and praying for a turn around in certain circumstances I have found myslef. I fasted and prayed but at the end I was disappointed.
I think it's fair to say everything we have being told while growing up is a lie. I put so much trust in God for a long time and I have never benefited from such faith and trust. Even people that don't go to church : that don't trust God seems to excel, succeed and exceed their expectations in life.
I have never felt so used, I have never felt so let down.


Oh.

...and because you didn't get what you want, you are concluding that whatever you have been told is a lie?

What happens to those with more difficult situations and are still with God?

....you read a lot from the atheists on this site I guess.


Read your Bible and consider other comments here.

Read your bible more than you read posts on nairaland.

Ask God for his grace....

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Re: And He Disappoints Us? by FatherCHRISTMAS(f): 1:01pm On Dec 21, 2018
Originakalokalo:

What happens to those with more difficult situations and are still with God?
....grace...
Why must God rejoice in our discomfort? Why must God be happy about people being stucked in difficult situations ? What happened to grace? Why should anyone who believes in him suffer difficult situations when the people that don't even recon God bask in wealth, comfort and affluence?

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Re: And He Disappoints Us? by malvisguy212: 1:02pm On Dec 21, 2018
God’s path to pure joy is spelled out in James 1:2-4. “Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance. Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything.” (NIV)

It’s hard to be compared to the seemingly
perfect Christians in the world. Who appear to
face every trial with smiles on their faces. Who
never seem to get discouraged.

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Re: And He Disappoints Us? by FatherCHRISTMAS(f): 1:05pm On Dec 21, 2018
pressplay411:

I thought so too.
Truly, from my new understanding, the things we usually think we want are usually not in our best interest.
while growing up as a catholic Christian, our parish priest gave a sermon about "comfort and luxury he said "what believers in christ need is just comfort and not luxury " . I noticed most unbelievers and people who would be termed sinners enjoy both comfort and luxury while we bask in utter discomfort
Re: And He Disappoints Us? by Originakalokalo(m): 1:21pm On Dec 21, 2018
Many people are going through a lot regardless of their religious affiliations.

I am going through a lot too....If I share my experiences with you,.....

The three Hebrew guys were ready to die in the flames....had God not responded to their plight.

Some have lost loved ones....and it is very painful.

Yet, they stick to God.

Check your belief system.
Re: And He Disappoints Us? by Nobody: 1:28pm On Dec 21, 2018
FatherCHRISTMAS:
During this week I was hoping and praying for a turn around in certain circumstances I have found myslef. I fasted and prayed but at the end I was disappointed.
I think it's fair to say everything we have being told while growing up is a lie. I put so much trust in God for a long time and I have never benefited from such faith and trust. Even people that don't go to church : that don't trust God seems to excel, succeed and exceed their expectations in life.
I have never felt so used, I have never felt so let down.
. The truth is , you are not connected to God spiritually at all,, a lot of Christian thinks they are , it beyond fasting and praying
Re: And He Disappoints Us? by pressplay411(m): 2:16pm On Dec 21, 2018
FatherCHRISTMAS:
while growing up as a catholic Christian, our parish priest gave a sermon about "comfort and luxury he said "what believers in christ need is just comfort and not luxury " . I noticed most unbelievers and people who would be termed sinners enjoy both comfort and luxury while we bask in utter discomfort

Godliness is not against comfort and luxury.
You must first go through affliction (corrections) first the length of which ia depending on how willingly you submit and learn.
But your soul but be proportionally prosperous. 3John 1:2
The problem is we always want prosperity first while our soul is not yet prospering. Our souls prosper as we grow

This is the issue I have with some prosperity preachers. The gospel is first for salvation before prosperity. 1 Timothy 6:5
Our heroes of faith were very prosperous. Abraham, Isaac, Joseph, David, Esther, etc to mention few. In fact there's no one that has been as prosperous as Job and Solomon according to the scriptures.
Looking at the disciples it seems they were not prosperous. Until you realise most of their wealth was later in the gospel and it was mostly used for kingdom purposes, to further the gospel and for charity.

God is not anti-prosperity. He has given is the power to make wealth. Deuteronomy 8:18
But primarily he wants your soul to be saved and prosperous first. He wants you to bear the Fruit of the Spirit and live in perpetual Love and Peace. Cos if this is not first taken care of the luxury and wealth would destroy the person.
Re: And He Disappoints Us? by theoriginalgood: 2:48pm On Dec 21, 2018
Who even proved that God is a friend of humanity? God is against this pathetic evil that is humanity. How do I know? Mark 10:18 says only God is truly good. I can believe this because all humans die and God does not. Humans are beings. God is a being. One dies, the other doesn’t. If you’re honest with yourself, you’ll know you’re not really a good being. Otherwise, you’ll never die. Why did bad ever exist? Bad birthed itself and couldn’t be deleted at the beginning because bad actually has some power. Bad prevented Good from deleting it, but Good will win the battle in due time. Then all humanity would be sent to hell for ever bringing bad into existence. Heaven is a place for perfect beings ONLY. If you were a perfect being, you would have been perfect from the beginning and therefore would be heavenly already. Perfect beings have ultimate power. Perfect beings can never be in hell. No human is a perfect being, that’s why hell for all. It’s just a matter of when. Keep looking at your clock.
Re: And He Disappoints Us? by budaatum: 2:50pm On Dec 21, 2018
FatherCHRISTMAS:
I fasted and prayed but at the end I was disappointed.
So, you fasted and prayed? Did you not lose weight? That, after all, is all you'd get from the fasting. And the prayer is just to concentrate your mind.

Please op, what did you weigh before the fasting, and what do you weigh now? Are you sure you weren't fasting and filling yourself with junk afterwards? If you did, you are bound to be disappointed!

I think you just heard the message wrong.
Re: And He Disappoints Us? by adontcare(f): 3:09pm On Dec 21, 2018
FatherCHRISTMAS:
During this week I was hoping and praying for a turn around in certain circumstances I have found myslef. I fasted and prayed but at the end I was disappointed.
I think it's fair to say everything we have being told while growing up is a lie. I put so much trust in God for a long time and I have never benefited from such faith and trust. Even people that don't go to church : that don't trust God seems to excel, succeed and exceed their expectations in life.
I have never felt so used, I have never felt so let down.
To my own understanding, God had his reasons for doing things. If I hope and ask for something but did not get it, I just feel it is not yet time for God to do it for me. I believe in His timing..so if I don't get what I ask for, no hard feelings
Re: And He Disappoints Us? by FatherCHRISTMAS(f): 3:04am On Jan 26, 2019
adontcare:
To my own understanding, God had his reasons for doing things. If I hope and ask for something but did not get it, I just feel it is not yet time for God to do it for me. I believe in His timing..so if I don't get what I ask for, no hard feelings
God has his reasons? What happened to making people convinient in their dire time of need. No man wants a bed of rock for long nor a man wants a pillow of stones to lay his head. cry

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Re: And He Disappoints Us? by FatherCHRISTMAS(f): 3:12am On Jan 26, 2019
pressplay411:


Godliness is not against comfort and luxury.
You must first go through affliction (corrections) first the length of which ia depending on how willingly you submit and learn.
But your soul but be proportionally prosperous. 3John 1:2
The problem is we always want prosperity first while our soul is not yet prospering. Our souls prosper as we grow

This is the issue I have with some prosperity preachers. The gospel is first for salvation before prosperity. 1 Timothy 6:5
Our heroes of faith were very prosperous. Abraham, Isaac, Joseph, David, Esther, etc to mention few. In fact there's no one that has been as prosperous as Job and Solomon according to the scriptures.
Looking at the disciples it seems they were not prosperous. Until you realise most of their wealth was later in the gospel and it was mostly used for kingdom purposes, to further the gospel and for charity.

God is not anti-prosperity. He has given is the power to make wealth. Deuteronomy 8:18
But primarily he wants your soul to be saved and prosperous first. He wants you to bear the Fruit of the Spirit and live in perpetual Love and Peace. Cos if this is not first taken care of the luxury and wealth would destroy the person.
there is no salvation in discomfort bro. I wasn't asking for luxury, I just wanted comfort which is meant to keep my soul afloat rather the rope has been tightened more below the oceans of want. Christians say Christ has suffered on the cross for me so that I may suffer no more. If this statement was true, which I now find questionable, I see no reason why a life of dedication should be rewarded with "denial and deprivation"
Re: And He Disappoints Us? by pressplay411(m): 6:25pm On Jan 26, 2019
FatherCHRISTMAS:
there is no salvation in discomfort bro. I wasn't asking for luxury, I just wanted comfort which is meant to keep my soul afloat rather the rope has been tightened more below the oceans of want. Christians say Christ has suffered on the cross for me so that I may suffer no more. If this statement was true, which I now find questionable, I see no reason why a life of dedication should be rewarded with "denial and deprivation"

Regarding "just wanting comfort", I believe it is very important.
Permit me to be a little blunt.
Perhaps you need some more Humility.
There's always jobs, but we only want certain kinds of jobs.
Just start somewhere.
Hunger will make the gospel fall on deaf ears.
So please get something doing.
Start small, and as you grow in Christ, God will exalt you.

Trust me when I say, God resists the proud.
I suffered unnecessarily when I kept hunting for certain kinds of jobs and it never came especially because I had just lost one.
Until I humbly started small. Today I'm not yet where I want to be but I'm far from where I used to be.
People see me now and think I'm so blessed. Na me know my account balance.lol
Because God's blessings starts with the soul.

Guess the most important question is, are you born again? Is your soul saved?
Serve God not because of money or any needs but because of the salvation power of Christ.
Serve Him for His Kingdom and Righteousness. The rest, they say is history.
Matthew 6:33

All the best Mr Claus.
Re: And He Disappoints Us? by Ranchhoddas: 6:59pm On Jan 26, 2019
This is a really nice thread. Why did it not fly? Cc: Father Christmas
Lalasticlala
Re: And He Disappoints Us? by Ranchhoddas: 7:00pm On Jan 26, 2019
budaatum:

So, you fasted and prayed? Did you not lose weight? That, after all, is all you'd get from the fasting. And the prayer is just to concentrate your mind.

Please op, what did you weigh before the fasting, and what do you weigh now? Are you sure you weren't fasting and filling yourself with junk afterwards? If you did, you are bound to be disappointed!

I think you just heard the message wrong.
Are you mocking him or telling him what to do?
Re: And He Disappoints Us? by Aphroditee(f): 10:50pm On Jan 26, 2019
Re: And He Disappoints Us? by savagefinder1: 10:56pm On Jan 26, 2019
FatherCHRISTMAS:
During this week I was hoping and praying for a turn around in certain circumstances I have found myslef. I fasted and prayed but at the end I was disappointed.
I think it's fair to say everything we have being told while growing up is a lie. I put so much trust in God for a long time and I have never benefited from such faith and trust. Even people that don't go to church : that don't trust God seems to excel, succeed and exceed their expectations in life.
I have never felt so used, I have never felt so let down.


"blessed is he that is not offended on account of me."


that is what Jesus said when John the Baptist was dissapointed cos he thought Jesus would save him from the prison.


I pray u find the much needed comfort at this time.

about the unsaved who live the best lives; I will refer u to psalm 73:1-18.

peace...
Re: And He Disappoints Us? by oaroloye(m): 8:20am On Jan 27, 2019
MISHIGAS!

FatherCHRISTMAS:
During this week I was hoping and praying for a turn around in certain circumstances I have found myslef. I fasted and prayed but at the end I was disappointed.

NO ONE WHO TALKS LIKE THAT ABOUT OUR CREATOR HAS THE RIGHT TO HAVE ANY PRAYER ANSWERED!

Actually, such a person has no right to even live.

Blasphemy is a capital Sin.

.     LEVITICUS 24:10-16.

10. And the son
of an Israelitish woman,
whose father was
an Egyptian,
went out among
the Children of Israel:
and this son of
the Israelitish woman
and a Man of Israel
strove together in the camp;
11. And the Israelitish
woman's son blasphemed
The Name of The LORD,
and cursed.
And they brought him
unto Moses:
[and his mother's name
was Shelomith,
the daughter of Dibri,
of the tribe of Dan:]
12. And they put him in ward,
that the Mind of The LORD
might be shewed them.
13. And The LORD Spake
unto Moses,
Saying,

14. 'Bring forth him
that hath cursed
without the camp;
and let all that heard him
lay their hands upon his head,
and let all the Congregation stone him.
15. "And thou shalt speak
unto the Children of Israel,
saying,


'WHOSOEVER CURSETH
HIS GOD
SHALL BEAR HIS SIN.'


16. "And he that blasphemeth
The Name of The LORD,
he shall surely be
put to Death,
and all the Congregation
shall certainly stone him:
as well the Stranger,.
as he that is born in the land,
when he blasphemeth
The Name of The LORD,
shall be put to Death."


FatherCHRISTMAS:
I think it's fair to say everything we have being told while growing up is a lie. I put so much trust in God for a long time and I have never benefited from such faith and trust.

YOU ARE A FOOL TO NEVER BENEFIT FROM FAITH AND TRUST IN GOD YOUR WHOLE LIFE, AND STILL FAST AND PRAY FOR SOMETHING- AND THEN BE DISAPPOINTED WHEN YOU FAILED TO GET THE SOMETHING.

The classic definition of "INSANITY" is: DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS EACH TIME!"

Your Post has to be a LIE: no one can possibly be THAT stupid!

. MARK 11:12-14, 20-26.

12 And on the morrow,
when they had come from Bethany,
he was hungry:

13 and seeing a fig tree
afar off having leaves,
he went to see if perhaps
he might find any thing thereon:
But when he came to it
he found nothing but leaves;
for the time for figs was not (yet).

14. And Jesus answered
and Said unto it,

“Let no man
eat fruit of thee hereafter
for ever.”

And His Disciples heard (it).
20 And in the morning,
as they passed by,
they saw the fig tree
dried up from the roots.
21. And Peter,
calling to remembrance
saith unto him,

“Master, behold,
the fig tree
which thou cursedst
is withered away.”
22. And Jesus answering,
Said unto them,

“Have Faith in God.
23. "For verily I Say unto you,


'THAT WHOSOEVER SHALL SAY
UNTO THIS MOUNTAIN,


"BE THOU REMOVED,
AND BE THOU CAST INTO THE SEA;'


AND SHALL NOT
DOUBT IN HIS HEART,
BUT SHALL BELIEVE
THAT THOSE THINGS
WHICH HE SAITH
SHALL COME TO PASS;
HE SHALL HAVE
WHATSOEVER HE SAITH.'[/i
]


24. "Therefore I Say unto you,

[i]'WHAT THINGS SOEVER YE DESIRE,
WHEN YE PRAY,
BELIEVE THAT YE RECEIVE (THEM),
AND YE SHALL HAVE (THEM).'


25. "And when ye stand praying,
forgive, if ye have aught against any,
that your Father also
which is in Heaven
may forgive you your trespasses.
26. "But if ye do not forgive,
neither will your Father
Which is in Heaven
forgive your trespasses.”


YOU DO NOT HAVE "FAITH-IN-GOD:" STOP LYING!

The Secret of Fasting and Prayer is that you don't for it to be seen by men.


. MATTHEW 6:1-18.

"Take heed
that ye do not your alms
before men,
to be seen of them:
otherwise ye have
no Reward of your Father
Which is in Heaven.
2. "Therefore when thou
doest thine alms,
do not sound a trumpet
before thee,
as the Hypocrites do
in the Synagogues
and in the streets,
that they may have
glory of men.
Verily I Say unto you,


'THEY HAVE THEIR REWARD.'

3. "But when thou doest alms,
let not thy left hand know
what thy right hand doeth:
4. "That thine alms
may be in secret:
and thy Father
Which Seeth
in Secret Himself
shall Reward thee openly."
5. "And when thou prayest,
thou shalt not be
as the Hypocrites are:
for they love to pray
standing in the Synagogues
and in the corners of the streets,
that they may be
seen of men.
Verily I Say unto you,


'THEY HAVE THEIR REWARD.'

6. "But thou,
when thou prayest,
enter into thy closet,
and when thou hast
shut thy door,
pray to thy Father
Which is in Secret;
and thy Father
Which Seeth in Secret
shall Reward thee openly.
7. "But when ye pray,
use not vain repetitions,
as the Heathen do:
for they think that they
shall be heard for their
much speaking.
8. "Be not ye therefore
like unto them:
for your Father knoweth
what things ye have need of,
before ye ask Him.
9. "After this manner therefore
pray ye:


'OUR FATHER
WHICH ART IN HEAVEN,
HALLOWED BE THY NAME.
10. 'THY KINGDOM COME.
THY WILL BE DONE IN EARTH,
AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.
11. 'GIVE US THIS DAY
OUR DAILY BREAD.
12. 'AND FORGIVE US OUR DEBTS,
AS WE FORGIVE OUR DEBTORS.
13. 'AND LEAD US NOT
INTO TEMPTATION,
BUT DELIVER US FROM EVIL:
FOR THINE IS THE KINGDOM,
AND THE POWER,
AND THE GLORY,
FOR EVER.
AMEN.'


14. "For if ye forgive men
their trespasses,
your Heavenly Father will also Forgive you:
15. "But if ye forgive not men
their trespasses,
neither will your Father
Forgive your Trespasses.
16. "Moreover when ye Fast,
be not,
as the Hypocrites,
of a sad countenance:
for they disfigure their faces,
that they may
appear unto men to Fast.
Verily I Say unto you,


'THEY HAVE THEIR REWARD.'

17. "But thou,
when thou Fastest,
anoint thine head,
and wash thy face;
18. "That thou appear not
unto men to Fast,
but unto thy Father
Which is in Secret:
and thy Father,
Which seeth in Secret,
shall Reward thee openly."[/color]

WHATEVER SORT OF PRAYERS YOU PRAYED, THEY WERE ALL BULL(*Bleep!*).

That is why they have never yielded ANY results.

If you were not a FOOL, you would have LEARNED how to PRAY PRAYERS THAT YIELD RESULTS. But you ARE: therefore, you prayed the same way that YOU HAVE PROVEN did not work, for something important to you, and then DESPISED GOD, because you did not get it.

. JOB 1:6-12.

6. Now there came a day
when The Sons of God
came to present themselves
before The LORD,
and Satan came also
among them.
7. And The LORD Said
unto Satan,

"Whence comest thou?"

Then Satan answered The LORD,
and said,

"From going to and fro
in the Earth,
and from walking
up and down in It."

8. And The LORD Said
unto Satan,

"Hast thou considered
My Servant Job,
that (there is) none like him
in the Earth,
a perfect and an upright man,
one that Feareth God,
and Escheweth Evil?"

9. Then Satan answered The LORD,
and said,

"Doth Job Fear God for naught?
10. "Hath not Thou made
an Hedge about him,
and about his House,
and about all that he hath
on every side?
Thou hast Blessed
the Work of his hands,
and his substance
is increased in the land.
11. "But put forth Thine Hand now,
and touch all that he hath,
and he will curse Thee
to Thy Face."

12. And The LORD Said unto Satan,

"Behold, all that he hath
(is) in thine Power,
only upon himself
put not thine hand."

So Satan went forth
from The Presence of The LORD.


YOUR ONLY INTEREST IN RELIGION IS TO GET THINGS FOR YOURSELF ONLY.

If you do not get them, you blaspheme against GOD, and curse Him.

FatherCHRISTMAS:
Even people that don't go to church : that don't trust God seems to excel, succeed and exceed their expectations in life.

. MATTHEW 16:20-28.

20. Then charged he his Disciples
that they should tell no man
that he was Jesus The Christ.

21. From that time forth
began Jesus to shew unto his Disciples,
how that he must go unto Jerusalem,
and suffer many things of the Elders
and Chief Priests and Scribes,
and be killed,
and be raised again the third day.
22. Then Peter took him,
and began to rebuke him,
saying,

"Be it far from thee, Lord:
his shall not be unto thee."

23. But he turned,
and said unto Peter,

"Get thee behind me, Satan:
thou art an Offence unto me:
for thou savourest not
The Things that be of God,
but those that be of men."

24. Then Said Jesus
unto his Disciples,

"If any man will come after me,
let him deny himself,
and take up his cross,
and follow me.
25. "For whosoever will save his life
shall lose it:
and whosoever will lose his life
or my sake
shall find it.
26. "For what is a man profited,
if he shall gain the whole World,
and lose his own Soul?
Or what shall a man give
in exchange for his Soul?
27. "For The Son of Man shall come
in The Glory of his Father
with his Angels;
and then he shall Reward every man
according to his Works.
28. "Verily I Say unto you,


'THERE BE SOME STANDING HERE,
WHICH SHALL NOT TASTE OF DEATH,
TILL THEY SEE THE SON OF MAN
COMING IN HIS KINGDOM.' "


The fools who traded their ETERNAL DESTINY for temporary riches will regret it later. They are supposed to regret it latef,- not now.

How they seem to prosper here and now is unimportant.

How they will suffer the loss of their SOULS is very important.

That should be obvious, even to intelligence as low as yours.

If it is not, your intelligence must be lower than I think it is,

FatherCHRISTMAS:
I have never felt so used, I have never felt so let down.

YOU HAVE NEVER HAD FAITH IN GOD IN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE!

Stop lying against God!

. MARK 11:12-14, 20-26.

12 And on the morrow,
when they had come from Bethany,
he was hungry:

13 and seeing a fig tree
afar off having leaves,
he went to see if perhaps
he might find any thing thereon:
But when he came to it
he found nothing but leaves;
for the time for figs was not (yet).

14. And Jesus answered
and Said unto it,

“Let no man
eat fruit of thee hereafter
for ever.”

And His Disciples heard (it).
20 And in the morning,
as they passed by,
they saw the fig tree
dried up from the roots.
21. And Peter,
calling to remembrance
saith unto him,

“Master, behold,
the fig tree which thou cursedst
is withered away.”
22. And Jesus answering,
said unto them,
“Have Faith in God.
23. "For verily I Say unto you,


'THAT WHOSOEVER SHALL SAY
UNTO THIS MOUNTAIN,


"BE THOU REMOVED,
AND BE THOU CAST INTO THE SEA;'


AND SHALL NOT
DOUBT IN HIS HEART,
BUT SHALL BELIEVE
THAT THOSE THINGS
WHICH HE SAITH
SHALL COME TO PASS;
HE SHALL HAVE
WHATSOEVER HE SAITH.'[/i
]


24. "Therefore I Say unto you,

[i]'WHAT THINGS SOEVER YE DESIRE,
WHEN YE PRAY,
BELIEVE THAT YE RECEIVE (THEM),
AND YE SHALL HAVE (THEM).'


25. "And when ye stand praying,
forgive, if ye have aught against any,
that your Father also
which is in Heaven
may forgive you your trespasses.
26. "But if ye do not forgive,
neither will your Father
Which is in Heaven
forgive your trespasses.”


SINCE YOU HAVE NEVER ACHIEVED ANY RESULTS FROM WHAT YOU ARE CALLING "FAITH AND TRUST IN GOD," THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU HAD.

Can you prove otherwise?

You have never experienced getting out of your warm, soft bed, and going to your PRAYER CLOSET to pray for PEOPLE WHOM YOU DO NOT EVEN KNOW, until you can FEEL THEIR PAINS, and AGONIES- until the FEELINGS LIFT, so that YOU KNOW that YOUR PRAYER succeeded.

. MATTHEW 18:15-20.

15. "Moreover if thy Brother
shall trespass against thee,
go and tell him his fault
between thee and him alone:
if he shall hear thee,
thou hast gained thy Brother.
16. "But if he will not hear thee,
then take with thee one or two more,


'THAT IN THE MOUTH
OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES
EVERY WORD
MAY BE ESTABLISHED.'


17. "And if he shall neglect to hear them,
tell it unto the Church:
but if he neglect to hear the Church,
let him be unto thee
as an Heathen man and a Publican.
18. "Verily I Say unto you,


'WHATSOEVER YE SHALL
BIND ON EARTH
SHALL BE BOUND IN HEAVEN:
AND WHATSOEVER YE SHALL
LOOSE ON EARTH
SHALL BE LOOSED IN HEAVEN.'


19. "Again I Say unto you,

'THAT IF TWO OF YOU
SHALL AGREE ON EARTH
AS TOUCHING ANY THING
THAT THEY SHALL ASK,
IT SHALL BE DONE FOR THEM
OF MY FATHER
WHICH IS IN HEAVEN.'


20. "For where two or three
are gathered together in my Name,
there am I in the midst of them."


PRAYING SUCH PRAYERS IS THE SECRET OF GREAT AND EFFECTIVE FAITH.

THAT is where THE POWER OF THE GOSPEL comes from.

Those who only care about THEMSELVES ALONE never learn this.

Re: And He Disappoints Us? by luvmijeje(f): 9:12am On Jan 27, 2019
oaroloye:
MISHIGAS!



NO ONE WHO TALKS LIKE THAT ABOUT OUR CREATOR HAS THE RIGHT TO HAVE ANY PRAYER ANSWERED!

Actually, such a person has no right to even live.

Blasphemy is a capital Sin.

.     LEVITICUS 24:10-16.

10. And the son
of an Israelitish woman,
whose father was
an Egyptian,
went out among
the Children of Israel:
and this son of
the Israelitish woman
and a Man of Israel
strove together in the camp;
11. And the Israelitish
woman's son blasphemed
The Name of The LORD,
and cursed.
And they brought him
unto Moses:
[and his mother's name
was Shelomith,
the daughter of Dibri,
of the tribe of Dan:]
12. And they put him in ward,
that the Mind of The LORD
might be shewed them.
13. And The LORD Spake
unto Moses,
Saying,

14. 'Bring forth him
that hath cursed
without the camp;
and let all that heard him
lay their hands upon his head,
and let all the Congregation stone him.
15. "And thou shalt speak
unto the Children of Israel,
saying,


'WHOSOEVER CURSETH
HIS GOD
SHALL BEAR HIS SIN.'


16. "And he that blasphemeth
The Name of The LORD,
he shall surely be
put to Death,
and all the Congregation
shall certainly stone him:
as well the Stranger,.
as he that is born in the land,
when he blasphemeth
The Name of The LORD,
shall be put to Death."




YOU ARE A FOOL TO NEVER BENEFIT FROM FAITH AND TRUST IN GOD YOUR WHOLE LIFE, AND STILL FAST AND PRAY FOR SOMETHING- AND THEN BE DISAPPOINTED WHEN YOU FAILED TO GET THE SOMETHING.

The classic definition of "INSANITY" is: DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS EACH TIME!"

Your Post has to be a LIE: no one can possibly be THAT stupid!

. MARK 11:12-14, 20-26.

12 And on the morrow,
when they had come from Bethany,
he was hungry:

13 and seeing a fig tree
afar off having leaves,
he went to see if perhaps
he might find any thing thereon:
But when he came to it
he found nothing but leaves;
for the time for figs was not (yet).

14. And Jesus answered
and Said unto it,

“Let no man
eat fruit of thee hereafter
for ever.”

And His Disciples heard (it).
20 And in the morning,
as they passed by,
they saw the fig tree
dried up from the roots.
21. And Peter,
calling to remembrance
saith unto him,

“Master, behold,
the fig tree
which thou cursedst
is withered away.”
22. And Jesus answering,
Said unto them,

“Have Faith in God.
23. "For verily I Say unto you,


'THAT WHOSOEVER SHALL SAY
UNTO THIS MOUNTAIN,


"BE THOU REMOVED,
AND BE THOU CAST INTO THE SEA;'


AND SHALL NOT
DOUBT IN HIS HEART,
BUT SHALL BELIEVE
THAT THOSE THINGS
WHICH HE SAITH
SHALL COME TO PASS;
HE SHALL HAVE
WHATSOEVER HE SAITH.'[/i
]


24. "Therefore I Say unto you,

[i]'WHAT THINGS SOEVER YE DESIRE,
WHEN YE PRAY,
BELIEVE THAT YE RECEIVE (THEM),
AND YE SHALL HAVE (THEM).'


25. "And when ye stand praying,
forgive, if ye have aught against any,
that your Father also
which is in Heaven
may forgive you your trespasses.
26. "But if ye do not forgive,
neither will your Father
Which is in Heaven
forgive your trespasses.”


YOU DO NOT HAVE "FAITH-IN-GOD:" STOP LYING!

The Secret of Fasting and Prayer is that you don't for it to be seen by men.


. MATTHEW 6:1-18.

"Take heed
that ye do not your alms
before men,
to be seen of them:
otherwise ye have
no Reward of your Father
Which is in Heaven.
2. "Therefore when thou
doest thine alms,
do not sound a trumpet
before thee,
as the Hypocrites do
in the Synagogues
and in the streets,
that they may have
glory of men.
Verily I Say unto you,


'THEY HAVE THEIR REWARD.'

3. "But when thou doest alms,
let not thy left hand know
what thy right hand doeth:
4. "That thine alms
may be in secret:
and thy Father
Which Seeth
in Secret Himself
shall Reward thee openly."
5. "And when thou prayest,
thou shalt not be
as the Hypocrites are:
for they love to pray
standing in the Synagogues
and in the corners of the streets,
that they may be
seen of men.
Verily I Say unto you,


'THEY HAVE THEIR REWARD.'

6. "But thou,
when thou prayest,
enter into thy closet,
and when thou hast
shut thy door,
pray to thy Father
Which is in Secret;
and thy Father
Which Seeth in Secret
shall Reward thee openly.
7. "But when ye pray,
use not vain repetitions,
as the Heathen do:
for they think that they
shall be heard for their
much speaking.
8. "Be not ye therefore
like unto them:
for your Father knoweth
what things ye have need of,
before ye ask Him.
9. "After this manner therefore
pray ye:


'OUR FATHER
WHICH ART IN HEAVEN,
HALLOWED BE THY NAME.
10. 'THY KINGDOM COME.
THY WILL BE DONE IN EARTH,
AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.
11. 'GIVE US THIS DAY
OUR DAILY BREAD.
12. 'AND FORGIVE US OUR DEBTS,
AS WE FORGIVE OUR DEBTORS.
13. 'AND LEAD US NOT
INTO TEMPTATION,
BUT DELIVER US FROM EVIL:
FOR THINE IS THE KINGDOM,
AND THE POWER,
AND THE GLORY,
FOR EVER.
AMEN.'


14. "For if ye forgive men
their trespasses,
your Heavenly Father will also Forgive you:
15. "But if ye forgive not men
their trespasses,
neither will your Father
Forgive your Trespasses.
16. "Moreover when ye Fast,
be not,
as the Hypocrites,
of a sad countenance:
for they disfigure their faces,
that they may
appear unto men to Fast.
Verily I Say unto you,


'THEY HAVE THEIR REWARD.'

17. "But thou,
when thou Fastest,
anoint thine head,
and wash thy face;
18. "That thou appear not
unto men to Fast,
but unto thy Father
Which is in Secret:
and thy Father,
Which seeth in Secret,
shall Reward thee openly."[/color]

WHATEVER SORT OF PRAYERS YOU PRAYED, THEY WERE ALL BULL(*Bleep!*).

That is why they have never yielded ANY results.

If you were not a FOOL, you would have LEARNED how to PRAY PRAYERS THAT YIELD RESULTS. But you ARE: therefore, you prayed the same way that YOU HAVE PROVEN did not work, for something important to you, and then DESPISED GOD, because you did not get it.

. JOB 1:6-12.

6. Now there came a day
when The Sons of God
came to present themselves
before The LORD,
and Satan came also
among them.
7. And The LORD Said
unto Satan,

"Whence comest thou?"

Then Satan answered The LORD,
and said,

"From going to and fro
in the Earth,
and from walking
up and down in It."

8. And The LORD Said
unto Satan,

"Hast thou considered
My Servant Job,
that (there is) none like him
in the Earth,
a perfect and an upright man,
one that Feareth God,
and Escheweth Evil?"

9. Then Satan answered The LORD,
and said,

"Doth Job Fear God for naught?
10. "Hath not Thou made
an Hedge about him,
and about his House,
and about all that he hath
on every side?
Thou hast Blessed
the Work of his hands,
and his substance
is increased in the land.
11. "But put forth Thine Hand now,
and touch all that he hath,
and he will curse Thee
to Thy Face."

12. And The LORD Said unto Satan,

"Behold, all that he hath
(is) in thine Power,
only upon himself
put not thine hand."

So Satan went forth
from The Presence of The LORD.


YOUR ONLY INTEREST IN RELIGION IS TO GET THINGS FOR YOURSELF ONLY.

If you do not get them, you blaspheme against GOD, and curse Him.



. MATTHEW 16:20-28.

20. Then charged he his Disciples
that they should tell no man
that he was Jesus The Christ.

21. From that time forth
began Jesus to shew unto his Disciples,
how that he must go unto Jerusalem,
and suffer many things of the Elders
and Chief Priests and Scribes,
and be killed,
and be raised again the third day.
22. Then Peter took him,
and began to rebuke him,
saying,

"Be it far from thee, Lord:
his shall not be unto thee."

23. But he turned,
and said unto Peter,

"Get thee behind me, Satan:
thou art an Offence unto me:
for thou savourest not
The Things that be of God,
but those that be of men."

24. Then Said Jesus
unto his Disciples,

"If any man will come after me,
let him deny himself,
and take up his cross,
and follow me.
25. "For whosoever will save his life
shall lose it:
and whosoever will lose his life
or my sake
shall find it.
26. "For what is a man profited,
if he shall gain the whole World,
and lose his own Soul?
Or what shall a man give
in exchange for his Soul?
27. "For The Son of Man shall come
in The Glory of his Father
with his Angels;
and then he shall Reward every man
according to his Works.
28. "Verily I Say unto you,


'THERE BE SOME STANDING HERE,
WHICH SHALL NOT TASTE OF DEATH,
TILL THEY SEE THE SON OF MAN
COMING IN HIS KINGDOM.' "[/i
]


The fools who traded their ETERNAL DESTINY for temporary riches will regret it later. They are supposed to regret it latef,- not now.

How they seem to prosper here and now is unimportant.

How they will suffer the loss of their SOULS is very important.

That should be obvious, even to intelligence as low as yours.

If it is not, your intelligence must be lower than I think it is,



YOU HAVE NEVER HAD FAITH IN GOD IN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE!

Stop lying against God!

. MARK 11:12-14, 20-26.

12 And on the morrow,
when they had come from Bethany,
he was hungry:

13 and seeing a fig tree
afar off having leaves,
he went to see if perhaps
he might find any thing thereon:
But when he came to it
he found nothing but leaves;
for the time for figs was not (yet).

14. And Jesus answered
and Said unto it,

“Let no man
eat fruit of thee hereafter
for ever.”

And His Disciples heard (it).
20 And in the morning,
as they passed by,
they saw the fig tree
dried up from the roots.
21. And Peter,
calling to remembrance
saith unto him,

“Master, behold,
the fig tree which thou cursedst
is withered away.”
22. And Jesus answering,
said unto them,
“Have Faith in God.
23. "For verily I Say unto you,


[i]'THAT WHOSOEVER SHALL SAY
UNTO THIS MOUNTAIN,


"BE THOU REMOVED,
AND BE THOU CAST INTO THE SEA;'


AND SHALL NOT
DOUBT IN HIS HEART,
BUT SHALL BELIEVE
THAT THOSE THINGS
WHICH HE SAITH
SHALL COME TO PASS;
HE SHALL HAVE
WHATSOEVER HE SAITH.'[/i
]


24. "Therefore I Say unto you,

[i]'WHAT THINGS SOEVER YE DESIRE,
WHEN YE PRAY,
BELIEVE THAT YE RECEIVE (THEM),
AND YE SHALL HAVE (THEM).'


25. "And when ye stand praying,
forgive, if ye have aught against any,
that your Father also
which is in Heaven
may forgive you your trespasses.
26. "But if ye do not forgive,
neither will your Father
Which is in Heaven
forgive your trespasses.”


SINCE YOU HAVE NEVER ACHIEVED ANY RESULTS FROM WHAT YOU ARE CALLING "FAITH AND TRUST IN GOD," THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU HAD.

Can you prove otherwise?

You have never experienced getting out of your warm, soft bed, and going to your PRAYER CLOSET to pray for PEOPLE WHOM YOU DO NOT EVEN KNOW, until you can FEEL THEIR PAINS, and AGONIES- until the FEELINGS LIFT, so that YOU KNOW that YOUR PRAYER succeeded.

. MATTHEW 18:15-20.

15. "Moreover if thy Brother
shall trespass against thee,
go and tell him his fault
between thee and him alone:
if he shall hear thee,
thou hast gained thy Brother.
16. "But if he will not hear thee,
then take with thee one or two more,


'THAT IN THE MOUTH
OF TWO OR THREE WITNESSES
EVERY WORD
MAY BE ESTABLISHED.'


17. "And if he shall neglect to hear them,
tell it unto the Church:
but if he neglect to hear the Church,
let him be unto thee
as an Heathen man and a Publican.
18. "Verily I Say unto you,


'WHATSOEVER YE SHALL
BIND ON EARTH
SHALL BE BOUND IN HEAVEN:
AND WHATSOEVER YE SHALL
LOOSE ON EARTH
SHALL BE LOOSED IN HEAVEN.'


19. "Again I Say unto you,

'THAT IF TWO OF YOU
SHALL AGREE ON EARTH
AS TOUCHING ANY THING
THAT THEY SHALL ASK,
IT SHALL BE DONE FOR THEM
OF MY FATHER
WHICH IS IN HEAVEN.'


20. "For where two or three
are gathered together in my Name,
there am I in the midst of them."


PRAYING SUCH PRAYERS IS THE SECRET OF GREAT AND EFFECTIVE FAITH.

THAT is where THE POWER OF THE GOSPEL comes from.

Those who only care about THEMSELVES ONLY never learn this.

Oga, have you noticed people rarely quote you? And I'll tell you why. How dare you quote a whole Bible passage in defense. If they want to read Bible, they won't come online. Who have the time to read crap. The one I'm quoting now, I didn't read it.

I love you and I know you think you are passing a message but you are not. Make your message short and precise.

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Re: And He Disappoints Us? by Nobody: 9:21am On Jan 27, 2019
FatherCHRISTMAS:
During this week I was hoping and praying for a turn around in certain circumstances I have found myslef. I fasted and prayed but at the end I was disappointed.
I think it's fair to say everything we have being told while growing up is a lie. I put so much trust in God for a long time and I have never benefited from such faith and trust. Even people that don't go to church : that don't trust God seems to excel, succeed and exceed their expectations in life.
I have never felt so used, I have never felt so let down.

God himself said, "my people (not strangers) are destroyed for lack of knowledge."

You don't need fasting for God to turn your circumstances around. Just act on the word of God. I didn't say pray either but act on what God had said concerning you.
Re: And He Disappoints Us? by FatherCHRISTMAS(f): 6:26am On Jan 28, 2019
oaroloye:
[b] MISHIGAS! o only care about THEMSELVES ONLY never learn this.
kindly modify your post
Re: And He Disappoints Us? by oaroloye(m): 4:43pm On Jan 28, 2019
MISHIGAS!

luvmijeje:


Oga, have you noticed people rarely quote you? And I'll tell you why. How dare you quote a whole Bible passage in defense. If they want to read Bible, they won't come online. Who have the time to read crap. The one I'm quoting now, I didn't read it.

I love you and I know you think you are passing a message but you are not. Make your message short and precise.

THE ANCIENT GREEKS RECOGNIZED TWELVE TYPES OF LOVE: THE OYINBOS WHO TRANSLATED THE NEW TESTAMENT ONLY RECOGNIZED ONE.

Therefore, I am never impressed when someone tells me that they "love" me.

oaroloye:
SHALOM!

My name is Olatunde Aroloye, and I am a Born Again, Full-Gospel Pentecostal Christian, not affiliated with any Organized Church, at this time.

I am FED UP of JESUIT AGENTS and ASSETS continually obfuscating the term "LOVE," so that they can introduce HOMOSEXUALITY down the road. So I prepared THIS exposition.

THE NEW TESTAMENT OF THE KING JAMES VERSION BIBLE is based on the Greek manuscripts used by the original Christians out of Antioch.

. ACTS 11:26.

26. And when he had found him,
he brought him unto Antioch.
And it came to pass that a whole year
they assembled themselves with the Church,
and taught much people.
AND THE DISCIPLES WERE CALLED CHRISTIANS
FIRST IN ANTIOCH.


CONFUSION-SPREADING HYPOCRITES and Sinners say that GOD IS INSANE and IRRATIONAL, because He claims to come in and advocate "love," while threatening and allowing pain and punishment- even DEATH and HELL.

At the Senior Levels of Religion and Atheism are very able Bible Scholars, who know full well, that The King James Version New Testament translated ELEVEN DIFFERENT WORDS as "love."

[b]1. MATTHEW 43-44,46. Αγαπαω, agapao. "LOVE" in a social, moral sense.

2. MATTHEW 6:5. . MATTHEW 23:6. Αγαπη, agape. "LOVE" in the sense of affection, benevolence.

3. MATTHEW 24:12. Φιλεω, phileo. "LOVE" in the sense of "being a friend to-" "to be fond of a person or object."

4. MARK 12:38. Θελω, thelo. To determine (as an act), to delight in, desire, to be disposed toward.

5. 1st THESSALONIANS 4:9; HEBREWS 13:1. Φιλαδελφια, philadelphia. Fond of brethren; fraternal love.

6. 1st TIMOTHY 6:10. Φιλαργυρια; philaguria. "LOVE" in the sense of "the love of money."

7. TITUS 2:4. (Love Husband.) Φιλανδρος; philandros. "LOVE" in the sense of "fond of man;" "affectionate love as a wife."

8. TITUS 2:4. (Love Children.) Φιλοτεκνος; phileteknos. "LOVE" in the sense of "fond of children;" "maternal love."

9. TITUS 3:4. Φιλανθρωπια; philantropia. "LOVE" in the sense of "fondness of Mankind;" benevolence.

10. 1st PETER 3:8. Φιλαφελφος; philadelphos. "LOVE" in the sense of "fond of brethren;" fraternal love.

11. REVELATION 3:19. Φιλεω; phileo. "LOVE" in the sense of "to be a friend to;" "to have affection for;" "personal feeling;" sentiment, duty, propriety, "kiss love."[/b]


None of these words is the one which Unbelievers and Christian Novices will associate with the term "love," namely: "EROS," meaning "ROMANTIC LOVE," which is not used in the New Testament.

. JOHN 3:14-21.

14. "And as Moses lifted up
the Serpent in the Wilderness,
even so must The Son of Man
be lifted up:
15. "That whosoever believeth in him
should not perish,
but have Eternal Life.
16. "For God so loved the World,
that He gave His only Begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him
should not Perish,
but have Everlasting Life.
17. "For God sent not His Son
into the World to Condemn the World;
but that the World through him
might be Saved.
18. "He that believeth in him
is not Condemned:
but he that believeth not
is Condemned Already,
because he hath not believed in
The Name of The Only
Begotten Son of God.
19. "And this is The Condemnation,


'THAT LIGHT IS COME
INTO THE WORLD,
AND MEN LOVED DARKNESS
RATHER THAN LIGHT,
BECAUSE THEIR DEEDS
WERE EVIL.'


20. "For every one that doeth Evil
hateth The Light,
neither cometh to The Light,
lest his deeds should be reproved.
21. "But he that doeth Truth
cometh to The Light,
that his deeds may be manifest,
that they are wrought in God."


CHRISTIANS LITERALLY GO INSANE, TRYING TO RECONCILE THE CONCEPT OF A GOD WHO LOVES THEM LIKE THEY LOVE THEIR SEX PARTNERS, THEIR BEST FRIENDS, AND THEIR CHILDREN, WITH THE CONCEPT OF ONE WHO RUTHLESSLY EXTERMINATES SENTIENT BEINGS WITH NATURAL DISASTERS AND PAINFUL PLAGUES- AND AFTER THEY ARE DEAD, STILL CASTS THEIR SOULS INTO HELL.

. LUKE 12:1-48.
IN the mean time,
when there were gathered together
an innumerable multitude of people,
insomuch that they trode
one upon another,
he began to Say
unto his Disciples
first of all,
"Beware ye of the Leaven
of the Pharisees,
which is Hypocrisy.
2. "For there is nothing covered,
that shall not be revealed;
neither hid,
that shall not be known.
3. "Therefore whatsoever
ye have spoken in Darkness
shall be heard in the Light;
and that which ye have
spoken in the ear in closets
shall be proclaimed
upon the housetops.
4. "And I say unto you
my Friends,


'BE NOT AFRAID OF THEM
THAT KILL THE BODY,
AND AFTER THAT
HAVE NO MORE
THAT THEY CAN DO.'


5. "But I will forewarn you Whom ye shall fear:

'FEAR HIM,
WHICH AFTER HE HATH KILLED
HATH POWER
TO CAST INTO HELL;'


yea, I say unto you,

'FEAR HIM.' "

THE LOVE OF GOD IS NOT THE SORT OF LOVE SINNERS KNOW.

These wicked people KNOW THIS, and allow this Confusion to continue TO SERVE SATAN'S PURPOSES- basically to STEAL, to KILL, and to DESTROY the EARTH in general, and HUMAN LIVES in particular.

Let us END this Deception RIGHT HERE!

Communicate this message to all whom YOU love, and want to SAVE FROM ERROR!

THE SOURCE of these definitions is STRONG'S EXHAUSTIVE CONCORDANCE, by James Strong, which will be recognized as authoritative in any Institute of Higher Learning,

. MATTHEW 10:16-20.

16. “Behold, I send you forth
as sheep in the midst of wolves:
be ye therefore wise as serpents,
and harmless as doves.
17. "But beware of men:
for they will deliver you up to the Councils,
and they will scourge you in their Synagogues;
18. "And ye shall be brought before governors
and kings for my sake,
for a Testimony against them and the Gentiles.
19. But when they deliver you up,
take no thought how or what ye shall speak:
for it shall be given you in that same hour
what ye shall speak.
20. "For it is not ye that speak,
but The Spirit of your Father
Which speaketh in you."


. JOHN 3:34-36.

34. "For he whom God hath sent
speaketh The Words of God:
for God giveth not The Spirit
by measure unto him.
35. "The Father loveth the Son,
and hath given all things into his hand.
36. "He that believeth on The Son
hath Everlasting Life:
and he that believeth not The Son
shall not see Life;
but The Wrath of God
abideth on him."


. JOHN 12:44-50.

44. Jesus cried and Said,

“He that believeth on me,
believeth not on me,
but on Him that sent me.
45. “And he that seeth me
seeth Him that sent me.
46. “I am come a Light into the World,
that whosoever believeth on me
should not abide in Darkness.
47. “And if any man hear my Words,
and believe not,
I judge him not:
for I came not to judge the World,
but to save the World.
48. “He that rejecteth me,
and receiveth not my Words,
hath One that judgeth him:
The Word that I have Spoken,
the Same shall judge him in The Last Day.
49. “For I have not Spoken of myself;
but the Father which sent me,
He gave me a Commandment,
what I should Say,
and what I should Speak.
50. “And I know that
His Commandment is Life Everlasting:
whatsoever I speak therefore,
even as the Father Said unto me,
so I Speak."


THE SERVANT OF GOD CAN ONLY PREACH AND TEACH WHAT THE SPIRIT OF GOD GUIDES THEM AND COMMANDS THEM TO PREACH AND TEACH.

Never tell a Servant of God his job again.

As I said: THE DEFINITION OF "INSANITY IS:" REPEATING THE SAME THING THAT HAS NEVER WORKED IN THE PAST, EXPECTING IT TO WORK IN THE PRESENT.

When has telling your Teachers how to correct you worked out for you in the Past?

It has kept you weak and ignorant.

luvmijeje:


Oga, have you noticed people rarely quote you? And I'll tell you why. How dare you quote a whole Bible passage in defense. If they want to read Bible, they won't come online. Who have the time to read crap. The one I'm quoting now, I didn't read it.

What could be more stupid?

What could be more rude?

What could be more arrogant?

If you don't know The Bible, of course you will be ignorant of how to have God respond positively to your prayers!

How can you love me, but HATE MY GOD?

Why should anyone care about you, and what you want?

If you want to go to HELL, you will not even succeed at that, because you lack the mental strength to survive the death of your body.

How dare you call THE WORD OF GOD "CRAP?"

How dare you call THE ADVICE OF AN ELDER "CRAP?"

Just who do you think you are, and how do you expect GOD to JUDGE you?

If I wanted God's Judgment to fall upon you, all I should have to do is say nothing.

But then, I would not be doing my job.

Do you fools think that you are the only people here?

Others will benefit from my Message, even if you never will.

Re: And He Disappoints Us? by budaatum: 5:04pm On Jan 28, 2019
FatherCHRISTMAS:
God has his reasons? What happened to making people convinient in their dire time of need.
It's a pity when people turn what is written in the Bible on it's head! Where does it say God will do things for you? Could God not have saved the Israelites from the Egyptians? Yet, God gave the job to Moses instead!

Stop with the praying and fasting and get off your ass instead of blaming gods for your own predicament!
Re: And He Disappoints Us? by ultraGM: 5:19pm On Jan 28, 2019
All my Life I have never fasted up to 100 days cumulatively but God had never disappointed me.
When delays come, I usually found a trace back to myself.
You cannot dictate to God what to do, rather you made your request humbly
Re: And He Disappoints Us? by ultraGM: 5:22pm On Jan 28, 2019
oaroloye:
MISHIGAS!
.

You appear from now-here

e don tey way i see last in Nairaland
Re: And He Disappoints Us? by luvmijeje(f): 6:55pm On Jan 28, 2019
oaroloye:
MISHIGAS!



THE ANCIENT GREEKS RECOGNIZED TWELVE TYPES OF LOVE: THE OYINBOS WHO TRANSLATED THE NEW TESTAMENT ONLY RECOGNIZED ONE.

Therefore, I am never impressed when someone tells me that they "love" me.



. MATTHEW 10:16-20.

16. “Behold, I send you forth
as sheep in the midst of wolves:
be ye therefore wise as serpents,
and harmless as doves.
17. "But beware of men:
for they will deliver you up to the Councils,
and they will scourge you in their Synagogues;
18. "And ye shall be brought before governors
and kings for my sake,
for a Testimony against them and the Gentiles.
19. But when they deliver you up,
take no thought how or what ye shall speak:
for it shall be given you in that same hour
what ye shall speak.
20. "For it is not ye that speak,
but The Spirit of your Father
Which speaketh in you."


. JOHN 3:34-36.

34. "For he whom God hath sent
speaketh The Words of God:
for God giveth not The Spirit
by measure unto him.
35. "The Father loveth the Son,
and hath given all things into his hand.
36. "He that believeth on The Son
hath Everlasting Life:
and he that believeth not The Son
shall not see Life;
but The Wrath of God
abideth on him."


. JOHN 12:44-50.

44. Jesus cried and Said,

“He that believeth on me,
believeth not on me,
but on Him that sent me.
45. “And he that seeth me
seeth Him that sent me.
46. “I am come a Light into the World,
that whosoever believeth on me
should not abide in Darkness.
47. “And if any man hear my Words,
and believe not,
I judge him not:
for I came not to judge the World,
but to save the World.
48. “He that rejecteth me,
and receiveth not my Words,
hath One that judgeth him:
The Word that I have Spoken,
the Same shall judge him in The Last Day.
49. “For I have not Spoken of myself;
but the Father which sent me,
He gave me a Commandment,
what I should Say,
and what I should Speak.
50. “And I know that
His Commandment is Life Everlasting:
whatsoever I speak therefore,
even as the Father Said unto me,
so I Speak."


THE SERVANT OF GOD CAN ONLY PREACH AND TEACH WHAT THE SPIRIT OF GOD GUIDES THEM AND COMMANDS THEM TO PREACH AND TEACH.

Never tell a Servant of God his job again.

As I said: THE DEFINITION OF "INSANITY IS:" REPEATING THE SAME THING THAT HAS NEVER WORKED IN THE PAST, EXPECTING IT TO WORK IN THE PRESENT.

When has telling your Teachers how to correct you worked out for you in the Past?

It has kept you weak and ignorant.



What could be more stupid?

What could be more rude?

What could be more arrogant?

If you don't know The Bible, of course you will be ignorant of how to have God respond positively to your prayers!

How can you love me, but HATE MY GOD?

Why should anyone care about you, and what you want?

If you want to go to HELL, you will not even succeed at that, because you lack the mental strength to survive the death of your body.

How dare you call THE WORD OF GOD "CRAP?"

How dare you call THE ADVICE OF AN ELDER "CRAP?"

Just who do you think you are, and how do you expect GOD to JUDGE you?

If I wanted God's Judgment to fall upon you, all I should have to do is say nothing.

But then, I would not be doing my job.

Do you fools think that you are the only people here?

Others will benefit from my Message, even if you never will.


Finally. I don't know you can communicate. I'm beginning to feel like you are a robot who have programmed Scriptures to be spitting out senselessly.

Sir, please do accept my apologies for being rude to you. I thought you were a robot. With this your emotional rant, I'm now sure you are human.
Re: And He Disappoints Us? by FatherCHRISTMAS(f): 6:06pm On Oct 27, 2020
Big bro Born2winnx hello good afternoon. how's work and family. how's everything hope you are fine and no troubles.
I wanted to message you through your mail but you may not like that. sorry I am quoting you here instead of the beer palor thread.

I have been on the thread since 2015 and I know you are a good man regardless of how some folks who are new to the thread behave.


big bro life's really been rough and tough lately and I am tired of begginning on Nairaland. I have been looking for job inorder to over come hunger and being broke unable to afford basic things. please help me if you find it in your heart to help me.

stay blessed..

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Re: And He Disappoints Us? by OtemAtum: 7:18pm On Oct 27, 2020
The problem of humanity is that they think any of these gods aka Jehovah, Allah, Moloch etc have any help they could render. We are here on earth to actually help ourselves. All these small small gods can't do anything to help anyone.

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