anonymous1759:
... Religion is bastardize hmmmmm, there's a big difference between condemning and telling someone to repent. No man has the right to condemn anyone. But it's your responsibility to correct them. As a religious leader. Being Gay is out rightly wrong no justification. Thank God i don't look up to the Pope. If the Pope can say being Gay is wrong many people will change because he's the most influential man on earth . Pope barely speak of Repentance he's indirectly encouraging Sin. I'm not Holy but it's better to know you're on a wrong path, than justifying your sin that's the height.

do you think your religion is a constitution for the whole world.. he spoke like a man with brain.. you don’t hate People cos they think and act different..

While I agree hate homosexuality and not homosexuals I want to say how will they serve a God that considers what they do as sin. For those who say that how can God hate what he created, the male and female sex organs compliment themselves perfectly from lubrication to orgasm (can't explain it here but read about the sex organs) and it's natural, how can you tell me that using a Love Machine for example or having sex in an area that has no pleasure zone is natural, people should say the truth the way it is everyone has a life to live, do as you please, but if you want to be a Christian, play by the rules.
I always take what this pope says with a pinch of salt cuz he always wants to be the good guy when Christians need a tough hand now

anonymous1759:


Black is black, white is white... Some people are born with stealing nature no matter how rich they're. Eg queen Elizabeth. But you can't justify it because she was born with it. If our parents were Homo I don't think you would be quoting this moment. We should look for a way to correct their orientation rather criticizing them. Religion is a tool one can use to correct it by preaching the right message, but the Pope is not doing any of that.

very baseless and senseless assertions..

Christianity : The Story.

1. About 1700 years ago, Christianity was adopted as a state religion in Vatican, Rome. All artefacts traceable to early Christianity were kept in archives there.

2. About 1500 years ago, the State Religion spreaded to Europe and the Pope became recognized as the head of Christianity.

3. About 1400 years ago the Church staged crusades where women were burnt on stakes alive because they were witches and men were executed because of heresy. Scientists and inventors went into hiding, so, there was little development.

4. About 1200 years ago the Holy War between Christianity and Islam was fought and so many men lost their lives. Surprisingly, none of the Gods could fight for his army. Both armies suffered severe casualties though the Christian army won.

5. About 1000 years ago, Believers clamoured for a translated pamphlet into English language and other European languages and such requests fell on deaf ears and those responsible for such requests were executed

6. About 900 years ago the Bible is finally translated to European languages but only bishops of the Vatican can access it.

7. About 700 years ago groups emerge and order that the Pope makes the Bible accessible to all Christians. Many books were taken off the original Bible because of "unreconcilable inconsistencies and errors".

8. About 500 years ago these new Christian groups led missions to the "dark continent" and used the words of Apostle Paul and others in the Bible to justify slavery and cheap labour. Many Africans were enslaved and taken away from their families.

9. About 200 years , these Europeans questioned the authenticity of what they have practiced and believed in for so long. They apologized for those who were wrongfully killed and tortured in the "dark ages". The industrial revolution began. The Church became a thread that holds the fabrics of the society together , a mere socio-political organisation for conducting marriage and burial ceremonies. Science and technology thrives, the society became secular and liberal.

10. About 100 years ago, some men in Africa exploited the abandoned religion, mixed it with superstition and sold it to their people.

11. Today, everyone in Nairaland understands Christianity more than the Pope.


Well, the truth is that the Pope and the Vatican understand the conspiracy behind Christianity. Intelligent people understand as well. It evolves, so somehow the killings of millions in the Old Testament and slavery in the New Testament are no longer justified in our contemporary society. The head of the Church cannot wake up one day and say this whole thing is a scam. To balance the world, he has to stand on a middle ground and make those who control the Earth we live in have their way and at the same time not tell the truth about everything he knows.

Yesterday he said there is no hell, today he doesn't condemn homosexuality. But, deep inside him he knows that 500 years from now almost every family on earth will have an openly gay couple just like no one would openly sleep with a woman he was not formally married to 500 years ago. Today, in our families and neighbourhoods , colleges and universities, young men and women cohabit ( something that would cost their lives 500 years ago, women wear trousers and actually have a say). No one can stop change. I wish this is saved for posterity.

Rickyuzzy:
Yall missing the Pope's point. After all the labels and whatever way people identify. The basic thing we all share is our Humanity. And every one should be treated in that regard. Human rights for EVERYONE should be respected. You have no right to physically, emotionally, assault or abuse anyone. When all this labels are removed, Humanity is all we share. In terms of the validity of gay being accepted or not. I will like to look at things from an objective view because I am not bound by ancient views neither am I bound by myopic views, the beauty of education is to have an open mind in "Hard-nut matters". Right now... Religion (Christianity & Islam) condemns it but religion is free will. And so not everyone is bound by it. Some countries have legalised it, others decriminalised it. It is still very subjective depending on the perspective being looked at. Right now scientific research is still inconclusive on if it is genetic. So there is no Validation or Invalidation. So here is my advice. Respect the laws that guide the country you are in. If you feel the law is suppressive. Then we have the judiciary. Challenge the law. If not, respect the law or go to a country that accepts your way of identification. In a matured civil society, the law is what guides and finally protects or condemns you not the Bible or Quran.

I won't be the one to judge anyone cus unless I am in your shoes, I won't know how it hurts. There are so many arguments on Sexuality.... But no agreement yet. For now, All Humans should be respected and treated equally. Human rights is all I stand for. Don't dehumanise anyone because you are not the giver of life. Cus you don't also wanna be dehumanised for your own choices in life. Finally respect people's decisions as far as its 'CONCENSUAL'. If someone says he is gay... Do not feel you have the monopoly of knowledge of it being right or wrong, make your thorough research... Try to understand where the person is coming from, before you make conclusions. If we are rigid, we will lead people to sham marraiges where there is no love just betrayal, kids to suicide and we will end up creating more problems without solving anything. UNDERSTANDING, RESPECT and HUMAN DIGNITY should be the core of our relations with everyone.

PS: I know someone classless will call me gay. I am a married woman with three kids. But when I was a teen(UNILAG). My friend took his life cus of his sexuality. So to an extent. I can relate with the pain of being an outlier. Reason why i take time to.understand people's choices.

There is no Human right in Religion. Pope is a religious leader and should be talking about the dos and don'ts not human rights

Same way I know no one was born an Armed robbery or Murderer..... it's a choice. I'm sure u're aware of John Locke's "Tabularasa" concept.
No one was born with a personality, as u grow up pick up habits and behaviors that form the foundation of who u later become between 3-14 years. Afterwards,everything u learn is understood from the mind that has already been set in between those years. Whoever was presented to u by ur mind as a role model is who u'll strive to be. Humans become what they see.
Note: judging by the way u abuse quickly, I guess still not matured. Research what u don't understand. Stop supporting ignorance because it appeals to u.

Emilokoiyawon:
The pope is very correct.

Btw if God does not like gays then why did he create them?



How do you know they were not born gay? Do you have any evidence to back up your claim? Are you are just talking through your yansh-hole?

unclesuruoffi:
Pope Francis who addressed celebrities who visited him, stated that anyone who discards Gay people doesn’t have a human heart. The Catholic leader whose speech moved British comedian Stephen K. Amos to tears, also urged him and other visiting celebrities to pray for him so he can do his job better.

In today's episode of the BBC2 series Pilgrimage: The Road To Rome, Pope Francis who met with celebrities said that giving more importance to the adjective [gay] rather than the noun [man] is not good, and anyone who discards gay people doesn't have a human heart. 

Stephen told the Pope: “I lost my mother, three months ago I buried my twin sister, who were both very religious. So me coming on this pilgrimage, being non-religious, I was looking for answers and faith. But as a gay man, I don’t feel accepted.”

Francis replied carefully: “Giving more importance to the adjective [gay] rather than the noun [man], this is not good. We are all human beings and have dignity. It does not matter who you are, or how you live your life – you do not lose your dignity.There are people that prefer to select or discard people because of the adjective. These people don’t have a human heart. For those of you who are believers, pray for me. For those of you who do not believe, could you wish me a good journey, so I do not let anyone down.”


https://unclesuru.com/2019/04/19/anyone-who-discards-gay-people-doesnt-have-a-human-heart-pope-francis/

gay pope

Rickyuzzy:


I quite agree with you on what the bible upholds... I didn't debate that neither did I try to change whatever is written on this. As someone who is well read. It will be foolish to base arguments on an ancient book that was used to perpetuate all vices known to man... Or a book used as an oppression in Europe during the medeival era and now as a business tool in Africa this 21st century. No, I won't stoop so low. I have mental faculty to think and see issues from all sides. So by all means. Let the bible uphold its standards... And let its followers continue their followeship. I make my argument from current scientific validation and invalidations. Not some book.

U ve now shown ur true colour as a hater and scorner of the bible.I wanted to draw U out very well and I ve done that. I now know why U re supporting de pope. Mind U my dear, de attrocities U talked about were perpetrated by de pope's predecessors in office in their institution that is known for standing the bible on its head and arrogating to themselves powers the bible never gave them, to achieve wicked ends. They themselves are destroyers of the bible from time immemorial and he is just living up to his job. Ur supporting him is not a surprise. The bible is clear and true, no matter how scorners like de pope and U try to scorn it or satan-raised fakes try to misuse it in order to give peeps like U cause to discredit it.

Galapagous:

imam dey for mecca, pope dey for London, dem go dey follow imamu, dey follow popu, dey start to dey yab themselves.... oga he is a fvking xtian and u bloody know it.

senseless less individual

femi4:
There is no Human right in Religion. Pope is a religious leader and should be talking about the dos and don'ts not human rights

in catholic Christianity and orthodox Christianity there is Human Rights based upon the divinely established human dignity, I don't know about Protestantism and Islam... But over 70percent Christians believe God gave men certain rights.

Pat4321: Lucifer

God bless you my dear..

Ubenedictus:
in catholic Christianity and orthodox Christianity there is Human Rights based upon the divinely established human dignity, I don't know about Protestantism and Islam... But over 70percent Christians believe God gave men certain rights.

God gave men right not "secular human right"

Of course, they have a godly heart. The human heart is wicked and deceitful.

femi4:
God gave men right not "secular human right"

if God gave men rights. Then there is Human Rights In religion, chikena

Jalinspy:
Is he telling us something we don't know? Am not understanding o. And I didn't see where he even tried preaching to d g*y to repent . Let me have little patience more b4 my catholic faith dwindles complete.

everytime you meet a friend who fornicated do you always repeat "Repent! God is angry with you" or do you wait for an opportuned time to tell him we all are imperfect but we should make effort to drop our bad habits and then hear him out and his struggles?


Prudence is a virtue.


Someone said his relatives died because they were gay and you think the right thing to say is "they should have repented, God oh s angry with them"?


Abeg, use your faith well

Ubenedictus:
if God gave men rights. Then there is Human Rights In religion, chikena

Olodo

femi4:
Olodo

wise man, God bless your great knowledge

femi4:
There is no Human right in Religion. Pope is a religious leader and should be talking about the dos and don'ts not human rights

Oh, there is Human Rights. Christianity is all about emulating Christ. And the Basic rule of Life before any is "LOVE OF NEIGHBOUR" ... This rule is the foundation of Human Rights. If you don't know that then you need to ask yourself what kind of Christian are you..... In all Christ did, he treated everyone equally... Especially the societal rejects...... So Yes. Human rights is what Jesus Christ stood for

Image123:
Of course, the have as godly heart. The human heart is wicked and deceitful.

The first half part sentence of your comment literally isnt even remotely understandable

Rickyuzzy:


Oh, there is Human Rights. Christianity is all about emulating Christ. And the Basic rule of Life before any is "LOVE OF NEIGHBOUR" ... This rule is the foundation of Human Rights. If you don't know that then you need to ask yourself what kind of Christian are you..... In all Christ did, he treated everyone equally... Especially the societal rejects...... So Yes. Human rights is what Jesus Christ stood for

Human right is bigger than "Loving your neigbour" . Human right says you have the RIGHT to live ANYHOW if you find happiness there in.

That's not what Christianity teaches, we already have GOD's RIGHT way to LIVE to pursue

MuttleyLaff:
The first half part sentence of your comment literally isnt even remotely understandable

Lol, corrected.

Image123:
Lol, corrected.

Ah bliss. Almost did my head in trying to get what you meant. It's better now. Thanks.

MuttleyLaff:
Ah bliss. Almost did my head in trying to get what you meant. It's better now. Thanks.

Eeyah, so sorry about that. And thanks too, for pointing it out.

Discard is not in the Bible and not a Spiritual Word.
It doesn't mean being unequally yoked with a Gay.
I believe that you can always bleep yourself but don't bleep others without their consent. The Scripture is against that.

MuttleyLaff:
Nahin oo

knew I'd spot you here

Baddiezz:
knew I'd spot you here

I know you that, if you ever let your head down, it will be just to admire your shoes but as for me, if and when I look down, it's to see how I am to help up

MuttleyLaff:
I know you that, if you ever let your head down, it will be just to admire your shoes but as for me, if and when I look down, it's to see how I am to help up

Well i am down, you can help me up �

Baddiezz:
Well i am down, you can help me up �

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Literally? How? What's the matter? What happened?

MuttleyLaff:
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Literally? How? What's the matter? What happened?

financially down

Baddiezz:
financially down

Really? Are you now?
How did it happen that you are financially down?
Do you still have the neck chain, top and bottom from your NL profile DP?

MuttleyLaff:
Really? Are you now?
How did it happen that you are financially down?
Do you still have the neck chain, top and bottom from your NL profile DP?

Lol na so we see am ,
that's an American actress on dp

Baddiezz:
Lol na so we see am ,
that's an American actress on dp

Tut tut tut.