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Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by endmoll(m): 5:01am On May 01, 2011
It marvels my thought how we Nigerians can continue to dent the image of our dear country,i was at a community garden where i rent a piece of land to plant some vegetable for my personal consumption and part of my hobby too. I got into a conversation with one off my neighbours at the community garden.
The first question he asked me was,are you a Nigerian? i said yes,he asked again if i have a huge sense of humour? i said yes. He said, i hope that you are not one of those who send me thousands of emails and we all laughed about it till he brought out his news paper to show me this article.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/international-theft-rings-steal-hundreds-of-vehicles-in-dc-area-every-year/2011/04/28/AFmruaHF_story.html
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by Nobody: 5:10am On May 01, 2011
You better wake up,They have stolen so much from Africa as well.

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Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by endmoll(m): 5:25am On May 01, 2011
olas2u:

You better wake up,They have stolen so much from Africa as well.
I know what is good and bad for me and that does not make me to be dubious because i was colonized. I hope you don't enjoy part of an illicit business.

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Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by Nobody: 10:32am On May 01, 2011
@OP

Before cars are shipped out of the US,they are held at the port by US Customs for up to 5 days and rigorously checked, The era when stolen cars are shipped out are gone

I ship cars weekly to Nigeria so i should be in a position to know
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by Nobody: 10:55am On May 01, 2011
olas2u:

You better wake up,They have stolen so much from Africa as well.

A lame excuse to justify theft. Theft is never good.

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Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by DMerciful(m): 11:45am On May 01, 2011
What is bad is bad, d fact that they stole from us during colonization doesn't make it right, But i wonder how this is possibly, unless they have a loose border system,lol
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by endmoll(m): 1:20pm On May 01, 2011
MrPrsdent:

@OP

Before cars are shipped out of the US,they are held at the port by US Customs for up to 5 days and rigorously checked, The era when stolen cars are shipped out are gone

I ship cars weekly to Nigeria so i should be in a position to know
Mr are you saying that the story was made up? your shiping cars does not make any sense to me at this point,i guess you go back and read the article to understand what i am trying to say, I hope that you are holding Nigeria to the highest esteem by doing what is right period.
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by endmoll(m): 1:30pm On May 01, 2011
D Merciful:

What is bad is bad, d fact that they stole from us during colonization doesn't make it right, But i wonder how this is possibly, unless they have a loose border system,lol
I work for one of the bigest used car companies in America and my job is buying used cars for the company,i am sad to say this but that is the Truth there has been occasion were cars that were stolen have been brought to me to give it a clean bill of heath with dude papers but my company has a process/policy that i have to strictly ad her to. There are loop holes in the system and few people tend to utilize those loop hole for there selfish reason and smear Nigeria's name.
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by Fhemmmy: 2:35pm On May 01, 2011
olas2u:

You better wake up,They have stolen so much from Africa as well.

So this made it right?
MrPrsdent:

@OP

Before cars are shipped out of the US,they are held at the port by US Customs for up to 5 days and rigorously checked, The era when stolen cars are shipped out are gone

I ship cars weekly to Nigeria so i should be in a position to know

If you truly ship cars to Nigeria on a weekly basis, you would know there are lots of loopholes by which "our" boys are doing thins, and that is why it is difficult for us sometimes to fight to revive the image of Nigeria, cos the image has been so damaged and yet still being damaged.
Yes, they have been able to minimize the theft ride shipped to africa, but it is still going on a daily basis.
This explains why you see some prices for rides and you open you mouth to ask how it is possible.
Explain to me, how someone could buy a ride, ship and clear it and still sell it at price of just the purchase price?
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by endmoll(m): 2:50pm On May 01, 2011
@fhemmmy, Thank you for saying exactly what i have on my mind all these while. My job over here makes me understand the prices of Used American Cars and some times when i see or hear prices of cars been advertised or sold in Nigeria it baffles me,when i calculate the exchange rate,shipping and clearing you will ask your self was this car ever bought or stolen.@ My company(CARMAX) in a good day i buy at least twenty to to thirty cars from private seller for my company and the ones that i can't recommend for retail we take them to our auction where dealers come to buy from us.
It is very hard to work in Nigeria now due to this theft and shipping because they affect the prices of legitimate car dealers who want to do real business. I am more concerned about Nigeria's image than car business because i meet people every day and as a Nigerian i am subjected to scrutiny before i can transact any business.
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by Fhemmmy: 2:59pm On May 01, 2011
endmoll:

@fhemmmy, Thank you for saying exactly what i have on my mind all these while. My job over here makes me understand the prices of Used American Cars and some times when i see or hear prices of cars been advertised or sold in Nigeria it baffles me,when i calculate the exchange rate,shipping and clearing you will ask your self was this car ever bought or stolen.@ My company(CARMAX) in a good day i buy at least twenty to to thirty cars from private seller for my company and the ones that i can't recommend for retail we take them to our auction where dealers come to buy from us.
It is very hard to work in Nigeria now due to this theft and shipping because they affect the prices of legitimate car dealers who want to do real business. I am more concerned about Nigeria's image than car business because i meet people every day and as a Nigerian i am subjected to scrutiny before i can transact any business.

In al honesty, i think the stolen will never stop till Nigerians in Nigeria want it to stop. . . .What do i mean?
When Nigerians are educated about the pricing of the rides outside of Niegria . . . .and by the way, i think they know the right price, they just playing blind eyes to the fact, cos give a Nigerian a price that they deem high, they will scream . . . so if people stop buying the stolen vehicles, or ask questions how come the prices are so low, the people will stop doing it.
But "Business" is a matter of demand and supply, so as long as demand is there, the thieves will continue.

Also, some family are the ones that encourages all these nonsense, it is time the parents ask questions too, a man that left Nigeria 2 years ago and left with no money, all of a sudden is sending 6 cars home at a time, tell me, how it happened.


Leave me your mail, Pal and we will talk in the chambers or mail me, we could talk more
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by endmoll(m): 3:08pm On May 01, 2011
My Email is end_moll@yahoo.com
The fact remains that there are some of our shiping agents here in the USA that help those stolen cars to sail to Nigeria. Because if they do not aid those thieves i don't think Nigeria will have such problem,but there are few families who can stand up to the truth.
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by erico2k2(m): 6:38pm On May 01, 2011
@OP,
In the US when you car get stollen, what do you do?
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by Fhemmmy: 8:03pm On May 01, 2011
endmoll:

My Email is end_moll@yahoo.com
The fact remains that there are some of our shiping agents here in the USA that help those stolen cars to sail to Nigeria. Because if they do not aid those thieves i don't think Nigeria will have such problem,but there are few families who can stand up to the truth.

Will hit you up.
It is so sad that people are aiding the act, and one of the reason too is cos these people are desperate for business.
Honestly, it is really sad and pathetic, cos like you said, it will surely affect people that does legit business
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by endmoll(m): 8:25pm On May 01, 2011
erico2k2:

@OP,
In the US when you car get stollen, what do you do?
I think you should read the article before asking your dumb question.
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by Nobody: 10:32pm On May 01, 2011
endmoll:

Mr are you saying that the story was made up? your shiping cars does not make any sense to me at this point,i guess you go back and read the article to understand what i am trying to say, I hope that you are holding Nigeria to the highest esteem by doing what is right period.

The story might be factual but my point is that before cars leave the US they stay with US customs for 5 days at the port.So for a stolen car to escape detection means there is maybe a collusion from some agents, That doesn't excuse car theft though,
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by Nobody: 10:37pm On May 01, 2011
If you truly ship cars to Nigeria on a weekly basis, you would know there are lots of loopholes by which "our" boys are doing thins, and that is why it is difficult for us sometimes to fight to revive the image of Nigeria, cos the image has been so damaged and yet still being damaged.
Yes, they have been able to minimize the theft ride shipped to africa, but it is still going on a daily basis.
This explains why you see some prices for rides and you open you mouth to ask how it is possible.
Explain to me, how someone could buy a ride, ship and clear it and still sell it at price of just the purchase price?

Cars being cheaper than you expect in Nigeria might not necessarily be because they are stolen.There are people who buy cars at dealer auctions (where you get cars at considerably cheaper prices than the prevailing market rate).That ,in my view/experience,is mainly the reason for those cheaper prices .
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by erico2k2(m): 11:27am On May 02, 2011
endmoll:

I think you should read the article before asking your dumb question.
Is there any need to call my question dumb, anyway, hear me out since you refused to answer my very question,STOLEN CARS CAN ONLY END UP IN NIGERIA if they are declared scrap,i.e dismantled and shipped as parts,When your car gets stolen you report to the police right? and an alert is put on the plate number,We all abroad who ship cars know that your plate number(VRM) is tied to your car and dies with it till shipped abroad,once customs key in your VRM all the details in your car would comeout ie, Howmany owners,current owner,status wether stolen,still on contract HP or any modification or if it has been in an accident oh yeah the VIN and the the Colour,) if any of these details is different from what hey are physically seeing on the car, it ain't going nowhere.
Now in the shipping Biz there are two side of it, some people here parade themselves as working for a shipping company or they own a shipping agency where thier real Job is fright forwarding ie registered agents whom thier Job is to forward frights to shipping companies eg,(GRIMALDI in the UK)these are the shipping companies who own the ROROs.
Now regarding cheap cars in NIGERIA, can anyone point me a car on this site that they think is cheaper than its cost price in America?lol cos here in the EU, I can bu a 2000 model of certain cars for less than £1000 in Germany, on a one on one level ie private sales, My Xpirience with cheap car is this,
Nigeria don't own a Data base of registered cars so one can easily register a car10 times,,so what do you think when Mr A buys a 2010BMW and get robbed, criminals take off the number plate and says it just arrived last week from Germany, forge all the papers and decides to sell it to an unsuspecting Mr B in the other end of the country?my very good mat xpirienced tthisfirst hand, he spent 2 weeks in a police cell cos he did not listen to me even though I adviced him the cost of thecar was way way beyond tthecost price abroad,Now if anyone think I have ot got a hang of what is going on plz ddon'thesitate to comment, but no name callingas we are matured and it should be pure discusion and clean arguments.
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by endmoll(m): 12:48pm On May 02, 2011
erico2k2:

Is there any need to call my question dumb, anyway, hear me out since you refused to answer my very question,STOLEN CARS CAN ONLY END UP IN NIGERIA if they are declared scrap,i.e dismantled and shipped as parts,When your car gets stolen you report to the police right? and an alert is put on the plate number,We all abroad who ship cars know that your plate number(VRM) is tied to your car and dies with it till shipped abroad,once customs key in your VRM all the details in your car would comeout ie, Howmany owners,current owner,status wether stolen,still on contract HP or any modification or if it has been in an accident oh yeah the VIN and the the Colour,) if any of these details is different from what hey are physically seeing on the car, it ain't going nowhere.
Now in the shipping Biz there are two side of it, some people here parade themselves as working for a shipping company or they own a shipping agency where thier real Job is fright forwarding ie registered agents whom thier Job is to forward frights to shipping companies eg,(GRIMALDI in the UK)these are the shipping companies who own the ROROs.
Now regarding cheap cars in NIGERIA, can anyone point me a car on this site that they think is cheaper than its cost price in America?lol cos here in the EU, I can bu a 2000 model of certain cars for less than £1000 in Germany, on a one on one level ie private sales, My Xpirience with cheap car is this,
Nigeria don't own a Data base of registered cars so one can easily register a car10 times,,so what do you think when Mr A buys a 2010BMW and get robbed, criminals take off the number plate and says it just arrived last week from Germany, forge all the papers and decides to sell it to an unsuspecting Mr B in the other end of the country?my very good mat xpirienced tthisfirst hand, he spent 2 weeks in a police cell cos he did not listen to me even though I adviced him the cost of thecar was way way beyond tthecost price abroad,Now if anyone think I have ot got a hang of what is going on plz ddon'thesitate to comment, but no name callingas we are matured and it should be pure discusion and clean arguments.
I insist you read the article that was written on WWashingtonpost and the diagram that was drawn for you to see how the theft is car theft is being carried out till it gets shipped.
I think that you are thinking out of the box that was why i told you to go back and reread the article,if you are offended by my previous comment i take it back. Hope that solves the case!
There has been numerous times when American Agents were in Abuja with the Nigerian security force inpounding exotic cars that were stolen from USA and shipped to Nigeria.
I don't think we need to argue about this issue but we all need to think of our dear country and ways to be good citizens of the world.
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by Fhemmmy: 1:21pm On May 02, 2011
MrPrsdent:

Cars being cheaper than you expect in Nigeria might not necessarily be because they are stolen.There are people who buy cars at dealer auctions (where you get cars at considerably cheaper prices than the prevailing market rate).That ,in my view/experience,is mainly the reason for those cheaper prices .

Chief . . . I am sure if you read my post very well, you would be able to understand what i was talking about . . . We do auction too, Sir both in Canada and in America . . . .
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by henwun(m): 2:22pm On May 02, 2011
I did support your motive, Infact if you see the way those Camry flood Nigeria Roads. I keep on imagine how come, Same thing happened to me I took my Camry to Nigeria to sell after being told its a moving in the market. On getting to Nigeria. Am Bleep with the Price. i had no option than to sell and gerout of the Country mehn. I believe you majority of those cars are Stolen .
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by Fhemmmy: 2:50pm On May 02, 2011
henwun:

I did support your motive, Infact if you see the way those Camry flood Nigeria Roads. I keep on imagine how come, Same thing happened to me I took my Camry to Nigeria to sell after being told its a moving in the market. On getting to Nigeria. Am bleep with the Price. i had no option than to sell and gerout of the Country mehn. I believe you majority of those cars are Stolen .

Lol . . . . . Sorry Pal, that is why when Nigerians call you that a particular ride is selling good at a particular price, dont even give them attention, cos most of the time, when they said it is 1M, expect 700K . . . We are so good making bad things look good in Nigeria
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by henwun(m): 2:56pm On May 02, 2011
Are you a dealer, I have a Suv Can you get me how much t will cost in Nigeria before moving it down. Let me knw so i can load the pix
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by Fhemmmy: 3:00pm On May 02, 2011
henwun:

Are you a dealer, I have a Suv Can you get me how much t will cost in Nigeria before moving it down. Let me knw so i can load the pix

Talking about this will derail the thread . . . So open another thread about this and tell us the SUV and we will talk about the price
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by henwun(m): 3:09pm On May 02, 2011
ok thanks about to now
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by inspiredm(m): 6:47pm On May 02, 2011
I believe this Topic has been Dissected Sometimes Ago on this Forum

Cheaper Cars in Nigeria Don't Necessarily Mean they were Stolen from the USA,

You can Check the Link Below


https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-229254.64.html#msg3436551
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by endmoll(m): 7:11pm On May 02, 2011
inspired_m:

I believe this Topic has been Dissected Sometimes Ago on this Forum

Cheaper Cars in Nigeria Don't Necessarily Mean they were Stolen from the USA,

You can Check the Link Below


https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-229254.64.html#msg3436551

Did you read the article on the front page of Washington post? Nigeria once again is being smeared again due to our do or die ethics.
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by Fhemmmy: 7:42pm On May 02, 2011
endmoll:

Did you read the article on the front page of Washington post? Nigeria once again is being smeared again due to our do or die ethics.

Inspired is just confirming that it has been dealt with before and we could just continue on the thread that was there before, so he is not saying is not true . . . . . .
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by erico2k2(m): 11:12pm On May 02, 2011
@endmoll
I have read the articles ad Im still not clear, so dont the shipping companies physicaly check the vehicles B4 the get into the containers? or are the shippied as parts? ie dismantled? cos if a car got stollen I would xpect the polie to put a marker on its VRM ASAP once its reported stollen,here in the UK, you car get a physical inspecton B4 shipping.
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by Fhemmmy: 11:16pm On May 02, 2011
erico2k2:

@endmoll
I have read the articles ad Im still not clear, so dont the shipping companies physicaly check the vehicles B4 the get into the containers? or are the shippied as parts? ie dismantled? cos if a car got stollen I would xpect the polie to put a marker on its VRM ASAP once its reported stollen,here in the UK, you car get a physical inspecton B4 shipping.

They wont be able to go through thousands of rides that would be loaded into the Vessel . . . . .
Besides, they have their ways of making things happen . . . . So sad
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by erico2k2(m): 11:30pm On May 02, 2011
what do you mean by they wnt be able to go fru thousand of rides?when you take your car to the sea port, you drive it to the customs checking point and someone comes out to check the Docs against colour VIN and VRM, it takes less than 10 mins, an they go back to get custom clearance,they do it for every vehicle, mayB these guys butcher the vehicles and ship them as parts?
Re: Stolen Cars From Usa End Up In Nigeria. by endmoll(m): 10:46am On May 03, 2011
erico2k2:

what do you mean by they wnt be able to go fru thousand of rides?when you take your car to the sea port, you drive it to the customs checking point and someone comes out to check the Docs against colour VIN and VRM, it takes less than 10 mins, an they go back to get custom clearance,they do it for every vehicle, mayB these guys butcher the vehicles and ship them as parts?
I have known law enforcement Agents from America come down to Nigeria in Abuja to track fleets of stolen luxry vehicle,you can always know that there are rings of Nigeria who are always on the look out for loop holes in every organization to milk it dry. I know how you can load a 40 FT Container with two cars and then block the two cars with other items so that while inspection is being carried out the will only see what is at the front.
We always frown when ever we are stoped @ airports because we have a green passport but we are too quick to forget that we are the cause of our own misfortune.

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