daben1:
you're a christian, please, how can I remove that Islamic stuff in my profile?

lol, dude welcome to the islamic cult, you just got initiated, but lucky for you the fratanity ends online so you dont need to fear their on ground blood thirst.

Leave that trash it has no effect on you, its just the price to air your opinion in a supposedly open forum for free expression

Mikecold:
lol, its like you have a crack in your head or your brain has been filled with jihad ashes.

Keep posting trash, terrorism is synonymous to islam all over the globe, cry all you want to share your blood thirst with christanity it still wont stick.

Now run along, its past jumat time, go slam your numbskull on the expressway

Lol, when your terrorist acts are exposed then it becomes trash. Speaking of head slamming, your god jesus slammed his head times without number.

Mikecold:
lol, dude welcome to the islamic cult, you just got initiated, but lucky for you the fratanity ends online so you dont need to fear their on ground blood thirst.

Leave that trash it has no effect on you, its just the price to air your opinion in a supposedly open forum for free expression

haha hah, thank you jare, i'm not bothered though, I just don't want people to see it on my profile

whowantfuck:
Rubbish, why must I be forced to agree to be a Muslim before I can be able to comment on this stupid thread, is the same in Christian Thread?
Islam is a Religion of bondage.

I wonder o, and I mistakingly tapped "yes"
Rubbish

Mikecold:
you dont have any fact, the scripture quoted was in relation to the spoils of war which that uncircumcised dunce ommitted.

The "real fact" is despite the liberalism of christanity doctrines there is no christain that kills to advance the gospel of christ as an end goal.

But you have blood thirty islamists killing every second to advance the cause of the fratanity. Despite how much you scums disassociate yourselves from them in public but support with silence, they still insist its fully for islam

What do you now call the crusaders? or Ku Klux Klan(KKK in America)? or The Lord's Resistance Army (LRA Originally known as the United Holy Salvation Army and Uganda Christian Army/Movement).

who gets to define terrorism? and remember Muslims don't control the media. for example, In north-east India there is a long simmering terror campaign in Nagaland to create a separate Christian state that has killed over 200,000 people, where the late American Christian evangelist Billy Graham has attracted pop-star status. Nowhere do we hear about “Christian terrorists” in Nagaland, but, we hear a lot about the Hindu “Saffron Armies”.

so get your facts right please.

Dreams are special gifts from God (Allah) to his creations (Humans). You don’t need to be a Muslim or non Muslim to earn this gift....however, as a Muslim, if you have this gift, it can be polished and developed spiritually. Anyone who is gifted with anything is for a special purpose and as such, there will be a special need for it at some time.

Prophet Yusuf (AS) had this special gift. His entire life was designed to use this gift. If you are gifted as a Muslim to see dreams, then.... you have a lot of work to do.

You have to be very prayerful, otherwise, it can be manipulated by the black force and can lead one astray

AIIyIic:
Please, no pun intended here. Just trying to get my facts right and make proper decisions. Do Muslims see visions and do they fall in trance?
Lalastica

yes ! I know many of them here in abuja
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VivaDeAngelo:
If I am to be forced to believe that I am a Muslim before commenting on this then you people should stop bringing this to the front page. I have never seen such restrictions on a Christian thread. This country is a secular state for crying out loud, and this bias does not help the cause of the Muslims or in any way elevate them but rather it only makes them looks vulnerable and needs protecting.

You people deserve it 1000% with the way you post uncouth statements on islamic threads. You should thank the mods for the effort to make you have a rethink on your use of uncivilized language. If muslims go to christian threads and use the kind of gutter language you use on islamic threads, they should also be sanctioned. But fact is, you wont find a single person out of 1.2 billion muslims in the world that will insult Jesus. Maybe in your countless denominatios you are taught to be uncivil in the use of language, but for muslims the Prophet has enjoined them to say what is good or keep quiet. The way you people engage in the futile, infantile exercise of using area boys' language on islamic threads must be stopped. God bless you mods for your action.

latecsart:
idiot

Go and call your prophet, Idiot.

ISLAM AND REWARDS AFTER HORRIBLE ACT. ( ISLAM itself is a terrorist ,100% fact ) Bunch of JOKERS!!!!

virago:



What pun

"A pun is a joke exploiting the different possible meanings of a word or the fact that there are words that sound alike but have different meanings."

mu2sa2:
You people deserve it 1000% with the way you post uncouth statements on islamic threads. You should thank the mods for the effort to make you have a rethink on your use of uncivilized language. If muslims go to christian threads and use the kind of gutter language you use on islamic threads, they should also be sanctioned. But fact is, you wont find a single person out of 1.2 billion muslims in the world that will insult Jesus. Maybe in your countless denominatios you are taught to be uncivil in the use of language, but for muslims the Prophet has enjoined them to say what is good or keep quiet. The way you people engage in the futile, infantile exercise of using area boys' language on islamic threads must be stopped. God bless you mods for your action.

Every non Muslim is not a Christian. You ll be surprise that most anti Muslim on this thread don't even have a religion

femi4:
Every non Muslim is not a Christian. You ll be surprise that most anti Muslim on this thread don't even have a religion

Double post.

femi4:
Every non Muslim is not a Christian. You ll be surprise that most anti Muslim on this thread don't even have a religion

If you read those insulting posts closely, you will have no doubt that the posters belong to a religion. Non- religionists do make comments on religion generally but not necessarily insulting like the fanatics you appear to be shielding.

Stalwert:


Actually , when it comes to visions in the form of dreams, Muslims actually do see it. However I must warn that because you dream of something does not automatically make it a vision.


True dreams are a part of Prophethood, as it was reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “True dreams are one of the forty-six parts of Prophethood.”

(al-Bukhaari, 6472; Muslim, 4201)
Dreams marked the onset of Revelation

(al-Bukhaari, 3; Muslim, 231).
The truthfulness of the dream is related to the sincerity of the dreamer. Those who have the most truthful dreams are those who are the most truthful in speech.

(Muslim, 4200)
Towards the end of time, hardly any dreams will be untrue. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “That will be because the Prophethood and its effects will be so far away in time, so the believers will be given some compensation in the form of dreams which will bring them some good news or will help them to be patient and steadfast in their faith.”

(al-Bukhaari, 6499; Muslim, 4200)



https://www.google.com/amp/s/islamqa.info/amp/en/answers/6537

However there are injunction on interpreting dreams that requires very knowledgeable persons to interpret.

Dream is a subset of vision! Vision and trance in Islam?

You're misunderstanding the Hadith bro.

lovat:
All these Muslim marabouts that are scattered everywhere are now fake Muslims now

Yes of cos

lovat:
All these Muslim marabouts that are scattered everywhere are now fake Muslims now

Yes they are

aumeehn:
Who are you to declare the Suffi's as Transgressors.!

Simply because they are not following the teaching of the prophet

Kinikini:
Prayerful Muslims get insight and guidance from dreams and visions. Some even hear verses of the Quran recited to them in their dreams. This helps to direct them to the path required of them.

quote author=AIIyIic post=85357013]Please, no pun intended here. Just trying to get my facts right and make proper decisions. Do Muslims see visions and do they fall in trance?
Lalastica

Yes. Very correct!

Stalwert:


Oga I didn't talk of trance. I am talking about dreams, and the hadiths clearly elucidates that. You can read a book written by Abu Bills Phillips on Dreams.

Nobody knows tomorrow and that is the first point I made that because you dream up something does not mean it will happen. However there are many cases where people dream and it becomes a reality so one has to wait for his dreams to come true,and in some other case it could just be a warning about ones conduct et al

The question is about vision. Vision can be in form of a dream or not.

Mikecold:
if you were not stupid you would know that is an old testament passage from the spoils of war that you quoted out of context

Pls do tell me since your unfortunate day of birth till date when you have heard of christians killing to advance the cause of christ like its done in islam

The world is battling with various terrorists and killers who are killing for islam.

The worst are the potential terrorists who are undergoing their indotrination on a daily basis.

Your boko haram peeps in your backyard are spreading the doctrines of Jesus abi?

You Sabi abuse o! No wonder you are Christlike.
Jesus too Sabi abuse for Bible:

Matthew 23:33
"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

Luke 11:40
You foolish people! Did not the one who made the outside make the inside also?

Matthew 16:23
Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."

Terrorist survive with the backing of politicians and world powers! Without the backing there'll be no backbone to terrorism.

US has been a major backbone to terrorism. And US is a Islamic state as you opine.

And from the quoted passage can you mention the context?

Before you respond just check my threads and see if you'll get a way out in what you are entering...

saraki2019:
It is called ruyah, or good dreams

Even in Ruqya there is no such thing as falling into trance like it's been insinuated.

Shafiiimran99:
Simply because they are not following the teaching of the prophet

lol You are a kid go and learn.

VivaDeAngelo:
If I am to be forced to believe that I am a Muslim before commenting on this then you people should stop bringing this to the front page. I have never seen such restrictions on a Christian thread. This country is a secular state for crying out loud, and this bias does not help the cause of the Muslims or in any way elevate them but rather it only makes them looks vulnerable and needs protecting.

The famous and popular line when Christians feel they are being denied their "Nigeria is a secular state."
It's all too familiar.
Do you go to army barrack without passing through any form of scrutiny?
If you don't like to go through the process without trying to force us to tow your line you can as well quit and moreover, this section has nothing to do with Christians.
Why do you people like poke nosing and when you are giving rules to follow you come with that lame and dry line that "Nigeria is secular state."

When you people were busy turning public places with Christmas decorations and Christmas trees you forgot Nigeria was a secular state but whje Muslims coughs you tell them Nigeria is a circular oops, sorry, secular state.
You people are so hypocritical that you don't want to acknowledge Nigeria is multi religious country, but you rather say it's a secular state so you can shut us up as it were.

No be only circular, na triangular.
Nonsense and sars!

onlysose:
Yes, it depends on the sect your follow, the Kadiriyya and Tijaniyya Sufi sects go into trance when praising Allah, this is a form of non violent extremism criticize by the Wahabi school of thought championed by the present leadership of Saudi Arabia.

You're seriously confused.

As for sufis seeing vision that is them, but the core practice of Islām has nothing to do with visions like these pastors and some. scammer call afar do.

Stalwert:


Actually , when it comes to visions in the form of dreams, Muslims actually do see it. However I must warn that because you dream of something does not automatically make it a vision.


True dreams are a part of Prophethood, as it was reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “True dreams are one of the forty-six parts of Prophethood.”

(al-Bukhaari, 6472; Muslim, 4201)
Dreams marked the onset of Revelation

(al-Bukhaari, 3; Muslim, 231).
The truthfulness of the dream is related to the sincerity of the dreamer. Those who have the most truthful dreams are those who are the most truthful in speech.

(Muslim, 4200)
Towards the end of time, hardly any dreams will be untrue. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “That will be because the Prophethood and its effects will be so far away in time, so the believers will be given some compensation in the form of dreams which will bring them some good news or will help them to be patient and steadfast in their faith.”

(al-Bukhaari, 6499; Muslim, 4200)



https://www.google.com/amp/s/islamqa.info/amp/en/answers/6537

However there are injunction on interpreting dreams that requires very knowledgeable persons to interpret.

She said visions not dream oh

Dreams and visions are not the same thing oh.

sencekompis:
OGA AM NOT A MUSLIM OO, I WILL.LIKE TO SEE THIS RESTRICTION ON CHRISTIAN'S HEADLINES.

Bomb,beheading,condemnation,sharia,guns, grenades,killings, sword,dagger,Death by hanging ( These are there Greatest Talents and strengths)

What's this one saying?

Mikecold:
if you were not stupid you would know that is an old testament passage from the spoils of war that you quoted out of context

Pls do tell me since your unfortunate day of birth till date when you have heard of christians killing to advance the cause of christ like its done in islam

The world is battling with various terrorists and killers who are killing for islam.

The worst are the potential terrorists who are undergoing their indotrination on a daily basis.

Your boko haram peeps in your backyard are spreading the doctrines of Jesus abi?

Are the Old Testament not part of your bible?.
When you try to misquote certain verses from the Qur'ān without context and when we tell you that is not the way to interpret it you claim we are doing taqiyyah (some new words you learn from the shite thinking its Islām) ,but when we in turn. give you a dose of your own medicine you claim its old testament.
How convenient!

You can't take away the Old Testament from the new testament because even Jesus said in Mathew 5:17:
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth not one not or tittle shall pass till all is fulfilled"

If your master,,"Lord" and "personal saviour" can say this I am wondering what your pastors or your Daddy GOs have to say about throwing away your old testament.

Or you don't believe in your Bible again?

Rashduct4luv:


Dream is a subset of vision! Vision and trance in Islam?

You're misunderstanding the Hadith bro.

My reply did not talk of trance. Dreams can contain some vision and that is the point I was making.

latecsart:
idiot

Waka

Stalwert:


My reply did not talk of trance. Dreams can contain some vision and that is the point I was making.

But that's not stated when you gave those hadith. Some would think you are supporting the view of the OP.

A vision can come while someone is awake too.