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Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by bigcasava1(m): 8:27am On Dec 20, 2020
masterP042:
You don't receive salary, but who receives all the tithes and offerings? Are those bank accounts linked to God's bvn?
Akuko mma Ngozi na ndi yard
am a winner and am blessed by the grace of God that is upon him. The more your type gets frustrated over his blessings the more God is enlarging his territory, his a man after God's own heart.
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by luluosas(m): 8:28am On Dec 20, 2020
Oyedepo, if you steal from the people, wait for God's wrath on your head

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Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by erico2k2(m): 8:28am On Dec 20, 2020
Ayotemide:


No, it's irrational that you use the actions of people you know in ministry to tell me how to think for the millions more. That would be both Irrational and dumb. Considering your words and thoughts are yours and therefore should not be mine.
Eyahhh, do you know why people are less religious in the west
Ans: The system meets 90% of their prayer point!
I pray the good LORD opens ur eyes and see how yah been brainwashed, if this covid period does not make yah wise then it is finished!

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Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Youngzedd(m): 8:28am On Dec 20, 2020
Ayotemide:
Lol. If you think that all these men of God feed on is your tithes and offerings, you must be unaware of the true riches of heaven. I don't need you to believe this. Many of you go through Nigeria struggling and can never make sense of being blessed without many hustles.
That's ok. But i am with him. I pay my tithe to the ministry and have kingdom advancement projects on my mind at all times. I will never need to beg or make sense of how I am blessed. That is what I want until Christ comes.

News: Poor Nigerians Will Reach 100 Million By 2022 - World Bank >> https://punchng.com/poor-nigerians-will-reach-100-million-by-2022-world-bank/

Lets do the maths. If about 51% of the population are living in extreme poverty, that's about 105M people. Now we currently have 90M poor people making it total of 195M. Mind you, Nigeria population is about 205M. 205M - 195M = 10M.

So we currently have about 10M people who fall under both middle and upper class category.

So all this religious bullshit. See eeh, if I hear that tithe, first fruit and sowing of okra seed works, I will tear you hot slap wey go generate 2HP.

So with all our religious activities, the nation keep sinking into poverty.

You're poor because you elected ldiots in power. You're not poor because you're not worship or serving God enough.

You're poor because the people you voted in are looting away your future. Nigeria poverty rate got absolutely nothing to do with serving God. It is man made and it's left for you to hold your leaders accountable. Stop allowing religious leaders to fool you.

Last bullet: If you're making or earning less than 300,000 NGN per month in Nigeria of today, you're poor. Maybe you check your dictionary or the web who a middle class truly is.

Una mumu never do.


Deuteronomy 14:22-29

22 “You must set aside a tithe of your crops—one-tenth of all the crops you harvest each year. 23 Bring this tithe to the designated place of worship—the place the Lord your God chooses for his name to be honored—and eat it there in his presence. This applies to your tithes of grain, new wine, olive oil, and the firstborn males of your flocks and herds. Doing this will teach you always to fear the Lord your God.

24 “Now when the Lord your God blesses you with a good harvest, the place of worship he chooses for his name to be honored might be too far for you to bring the tithe. 25 If so, you may sell the tithe portion of your crops and herds, put the money in a pouch, and go to the place the Lord your God has chosen. 26 When you arrive, you may use the money to buy any kind of food you want—cattle, sheep, goats, wine, or other alcoholic drink. Then feast there in the presence of the Lord your God and celebrate with your household. 27 And do not neglect the Levites in your town, for they will receive no allotment of land among you.

28 “At the end of every third year, bring the entire tithe of that year’s harvest and store it in the nearest town. 29 Give it to the Levites, who will receive no allotment of land among you, as well as to the foreigners living among you, the orphans, and the widows in your towns, so they can eat and be satisfied. Then the Lord your God will bless you in all your work.




TITHING DEMYSTIFIED

OLD COVENANT

There are 3 types of tithing.

1) Tithe of the feast: This tithe is for your consumption and you do it every first and second year.
Deuteronomy 14:22-26 explains it all.

2) Levitcal tithe: This tithe is what you give to the Levite (only to the descendants of Jacob’s son Levi) in the third year after you have eaten your tithe in the first and second year.

Deuteronomy 14:28-29, Deuteronomy 26:12 and Numbers 18:21- 25 explains it all.

The strict condition here is that you must be the bloodline of Levi to collect tithe. No body else on earth is qualified to collect this tithe apart from those who have the blood of Jacob's son Levi running through their veins. Any other person who collect this is either a criminal or ignorant.

3) Tithe to the needy: In the third year after you have previously eaten your tithe in the first and second year, you're to give the tithe of the third year to the foreigners, the fatherless and the widows.

Levitcal tithe and tithe to the poor is for the third year, that's to say, you share it between the Levites, foreigners, fatherless and widows. It is only meant for this four set of people.

What about Malachi 3:8-10?

Well, God was talking to the Levites and not the Israelites who bring the tithe. Among the Levites, there's a high priest who enters the holiest of holy. Read from Malachi 2:1 to see that God was talking to the Priests (Levites).

The priests (Levites) were playing smart on the tithe they collect from the Israelites.

THE STORE HOUSE

The Levites (priests) were to take out 10% of the tithe they collect from the Israelites and keep in the store house, Numbers 18:25 - 29 explains it, but they stopped doing it, they started making smart move on it and God was angry with them.

They were misbehaving with the tithes they collected, the book of Nehemiah 13:4 - 13 explains it.

NEW COVENANT

In the new covenant, you as a believer is the church (house of Yahuah/God) not a building (2 Corinthians 5:1, Acts 17:24, Acts 7:48, Matthew 24:1-2 and John 4:21-24) and a priest while Yahushua (Christ) is the high priest (Read Hebrew 7).

Because you as a believer is the church, there's no physical store house or temple, you are now the spiritual temple God dwell in, if you are the temple they use to bring their tithes to, then it's you that will consume the tithe not a Pastor or Priest.

In the entire new testament, there's no place Christ or the believers preached, received or collected tithe. Think for a minute, if the new testament is the Christian manual, why is tithing not there and what does that tell you?

C'mon, tithing and first fruit have no place in Christianity. It is what it is.

Tithing is excepting yourself from the sacrifice of Christ on the cross.

In the new covenant, the law was fulfilled by Christ and we are no longer under the law. After resurrection of Christ, the law became weak and useless as seen in the Hebrew 7:8-19.

Hebrews 7:18-19
18 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless 19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.

Galatians 3:19-20
Why, then, was the law given at all? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was given through angels and entrusted to a mediator. 20 A mediator,however, implies more than one party; but God is one.

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* Christ is the seed been referred to here.

Colossians 2:17
These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.
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The 613 laws are shadows until Christ came. Christ fulfilled the law, done and dusted, chapter closed forever. That's why it's now weak and useless.

Hebrews 7:12
For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed also.
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Hebrew 8 vs 13
"By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear."

Romans 7:6
But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

Galatians 3:10
For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”


* If you're to obey the laws in the old testament to be right with God, you're to obey ALL the 613 laws otherwise you're under a curse. Tithing to fulfil what's written in the book of law attracts a curse. Stop tithing, you're bringing a curse to yourself.

James 2:10
For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

Galatians 2:21
I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!”

Hebrews 10:9-10
9 Then he said, “Here I am, I have come to do your will.” He sets aside the first to establish the second. 10 And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Christ once for all.

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He set aside OLD COVENANT found in the old testament to establish the NEW COVENANT found in the new testament.

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2 Corinthians 3:6
He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
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* The letter here is the old covenants (laws) while the spirit is the new covenant. Read the whole chapter for better understanding.

Please brothers and sisters, do yourself a favour and read the whole of 2 Corinthians 3. Verse 14 "But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away." is exactly what is happening in Christianity today. The minds of many were made dull.

Never allow any man born of flesh push you to do the things that are now weak and useless.
If Christ and the early Christians didn't do it, I tell you today, don't do it no matter the pressure.

The new testament scriptures are Christian manual, anything not found there shouldn't be a doctrine.

I still remain the son of the TRUTH.

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Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by hardbody: 8:28am On Dec 20, 2020
AdakaBoro8:
tithe collecting pastors are all stealing. Jesus disagree with task/tithe paying.. moses time of collecting tax has past, its old things past. new life is Jesus death, we no longer pay tax.

Well said. Tithing was for the Levites to provide for their upkeep since in the entire tribe of 12, they alone were not allowed to work. Upon the coming of Jesus, there was no more tithing. Judaism allowed people to still make contributions which was why the widow dropped her mite and Jesus even said when you are donating let it be known only to you.

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Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Nobody: 8:28am On Dec 20, 2020
AntiChristian:
Almost all pastors are richer than the biblical Jesus!

While the biblical Jesus had no house, church building, horse, donkey or any known properties, pastors are opposite!
I agree

However on judgement day God would be the judge himself
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by hollywater: 8:29am On Dec 20, 2020
I wonder what the Pastor's will then risk.
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by abidem4real: 8:30am On Dec 20, 2020
daveobasi1:


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2020/12/those-saying-pastors-are-stealing-risk-gods-wrath-oyedepo/amp/
Which God's wrath? Does God know fake stealing pastors? Or can God they're not truly serving be fighting for them? Let the topic be changed jare
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by erico2k2(m): 8:30am On Dec 20, 2020
bigcasava1:
am a winner and am blessed by the grace of God that is upon him. The more your type gets frustrated over his blessings the more God is enlarging his territory, his a man after God's own heart.
and the rest of yah live in sh***t holes damn bro damn yah give ur monies to the poor and less privileged, I think there is more blessing to that plus it makes more sense!

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Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by erico2k2(m): 8:31am On Dec 20, 2020
Mikehot:
I agree

However on judgement day God would be the judge himself
This is the thing people get twisted with, Judgement DAY is NOW!!!
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by erico2k2(m): 8:33am On Dec 20, 2020
Youngzedd:


News: Poor Nigerians Will Reach 100 Million By 2022 - World Bank >> https://punchng.com/poor-nigerians-will-reach-100-million-by-2022-world-bank/

Lets do the maths. If about 51% of the population are living in extreme poverty, that's about 105M people. Now we currently have 90M poor people making it total of 195M. Mind you, Nigeria population is about 205M. 205M - 195M = 10M.

So we currently have about 10M people who fall under both middle and upper class category.

So all this religious bullshit. See eeh, if I hear that tithe, first fruit and sowing of okra seed works, I will tear you hot slap wey go generate 2HP.

So with all our religious activities, the nation keep sinking into poverty.

You're poor because you elected idiots in power. You're not poor because you're not worship or serving God enough.

You're poor because the people you voted in are looting away your future. Nigeria poverty rate got absolutely nothing to do with serving God. It is man made and it's left for you to hold your leaders accountable. Stop allowing religious leaders to fool you.

Last bullet: If you're making or earning less than 300,000 NGN per month in Nigeria of today, you're poor. Maybe you check your dictionary or the web who a middle class truly is.

Una mumu never do.


Deuteronomy 14:22-29

22 “You must set aside a tithe of your crops—one-tenth of all the crops you harvest each year. 23 Bring this tithe to the designated place of worship—the place the Lord your God chooses for his name to be honored—and eat it there in his presence. This applies to your tithes of grain, new wine, olive oil, and the firstborn males of your flocks and herds. Doing this will teach you always to fear the Lord your God.

24 “Now when the Lord your God blesses you with a good harvest, the place of worship he chooses for his name to be honored might be too far for you to bring the tithe. 25 If so, you may sell the tithe portion of your crops and herds, put the money in a pouch, and go to the place the Lord your God has chosen. 26 When you arrive, you may use the money to buy any kind of food you want—cattle, sheep, goats, wine, or other alcoholic drink. Then feast there in the presence of the Lord your God and celebrate with your household. 27 And do not neglect the Levites in your town, for they will receive no allotment of land among you.

28 “At the end of every third year, bring the entire tithe of that year’s harvest and store it in the nearest town. 29 Give it to the Levites, who will receive no allotment of land among you, as well as to the foreigners living among you, the orphans, and the widows in your towns, so they can eat and be satisfied. Then the Lord your God will bless you in all your work.
It said crop, not money, or do you think there was no money back in the days and the monies were meant for the levites, the Levites are a tribe of Isreal who still survive today.Bro leave them ohhhh their mumuness never DO

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Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Nobody: 8:33am On Dec 20, 2020
erico2k2:

This is the thing people get twisted with, Judgement DAY is NOW!!!
No judgement day is not now.

You didn't create human neither do you have the power to judge what the account the gave with their lives
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by erico2k2(m): 8:35am On Dec 20, 2020
Mikehot:
No judgement day is not now.

You didn't create human neither do you have the power to judge what the account the gave with their lives
Bro Im telling you judgement day is here,let me tell you ! check the world around you!
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by sulasa07(m): 8:37am On Dec 20, 2020
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Nobody: 8:40am On Dec 20, 2020
erico2k2:

Bro Im telling you judgement day is here,let me tell you ! check the world around you!
I don't know the judgement day you talking about but am referring to the one given to each soul either heaven or hell externally
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by jpmoriarti(m): 8:41am On Dec 20, 2020
Ayotemide:
Lol. If you think that all these men of God feed on is your tithes and offerings, you must be unaware of the true riches of heaven. I don't need you to believe this. Many of you go through Nigeria struggling and can never make sense of being blessed without many hustles.
That's ok. But i am with him. I pay my tithe to the ministry and have kingdom advancement projects on my mind at all times. I will never need to beg or make sense of how I am blessed. That is what I want until Christ comes.
You deluded, sis. No where in the bible Christ said your blessing on earth is tied to tithes and offering.

Read your bible and follow the examples of Christ only.

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Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Youngzedd(m): 8:41am On Dec 20, 2020
erico2k2:

It said crop, not money, or do you think there was no money back in the days and the monies were meant for the levites, the Levites are a tribe of Isreal who still survive today.Bro leave them ohhhh their mumuness never DO

Abraham bought a land used to bury his wife with money in Genesis 23
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Tilykay(m): 8:42am On Dec 20, 2020
charlesucheh:
God's spokes Man has just spoken!

Mean while, our politicians chopping blood money since 1856 have not yet seen that Wrath o!!!

continue....

The Lord gives the wicked grace. So they live long and repent.
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by erico2k2(m): 8:43am On Dec 20, 2020
Youngzedd:


Abraham bought a land used to bury his wife with money in Genesis 23



Exactly so there was Money, Imagine if people take yam and plantain to church, it would be much more rewarding
9ja pastors have bodyguards, churchgoers pray to God for protection! and they are not the wiser they are being scammed!

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Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by bbode1(m): 8:46am On Dec 20, 2020
masterP042:
You don't receive salary, but who receives all the tithes and offerings? Are those bank accounts linked to God's bvn?
Akuko mma Ngozi na ndi yard
A Christian will understand that tithe and offering are the commandment if God. It's written in the old testament that we should bring all tithe into the Lord house so that there be meat in his house.
Tithe and offering are for church growth and also for the payment of pastor welfare.
What so ever they do with it is not our business. Ours is to do as commanded by God.
And oyedepo as fulfilled that purpose. He recently recruited our 4000pastors plus the thousands already on payroll. He his currently starting the building if over 9000 churches worldwide.
It's written in the scriptures. He who seek first into the kingdom of God. All other things shall be added into him.
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Nobody: 8:58am On Dec 20, 2020
hashtagged:
If you want to get rich codedly be a pastor who can do miracles. I just found out oyedepo has over $170 million dollars networth(7.5Billion naira) that means he is richer than all Nigerian and half of all American artists(musicians)

But he is right he didn't steal his members just kept giving it to him grin

But people Sha they would give millions to this guy and there are homeless children undecided

humans are wired to give more to the rich than than to give to the poor. i don't know where this ideology came from.
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by jaxxy(m): 9:01am On Dec 20, 2020
post=97248434:
We read some comments on this forum sometimes and can only marvel! shocked

We don't know if youths of nowadays ever sit down and plan to make their life meaningful. 
All they are looking for is to say trash against men of God.
What many of you don't know is that you keep shutting doors against your self and your future when you say bs against God's servants.

Just because you have a phone do not give you the right to come online to comment on things you don't understand and say different kinda trash.

Well, we will continue to remember you in our prayers. 
We just pray God have mercy on this generation.
 

Did Judas not steal? Was he not a disciple?? So why will sm1 say it’s impossible for a pastor to steal?? It happens and some worship mammon.

It’s not an insult it’s facts from observation.

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Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Oshokalo: 9:02am On Dec 20, 2020
na all this one them dey use scared people,missionary who brought Christianity to Nigeria didn't do all this
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Jetrue3oo: 9:03am On Dec 20, 2020
Oyedepo you're a mighty liar say na the God wey you no knw ni idiot pastor
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by BluntTheApostle(m): 9:06am On Dec 20, 2020
Ayotemide:
Lol. If you think that all these men of God feed on is your tithes and offerings, you must be unaware of the true riches of heaven. I don't need you to believe this. Many of you go through Nigeria struggling and can never make sense of being blessed without many hustles.
That's ok. But i am with him. I pay my tithe to the ministry and have kingdom advancement projects on my mind at all times. I will never need to beg or make sense of how I am blessed. That is what I want until Christ comes.

The prosperity theology has messed up your Christian life?

First of all, what is kingdom advancement project?
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Starzo: 9:07am On Dec 20, 2020
MJBOLT:
someone should remind OLEDEPO that jesus said that no rich man will enter the kingdom of god.
stop spreading lies. Jesus said only it would be difficult for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God and not impossible
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Stewart883(m): 9:07am On Dec 20, 2020
Alexaonfleek:
Trash.
please take your anger out on Nigerian government.
Oyedepo has helped way more people than your local government chairman has.

Please tell your pastor for me that I need money
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Stewart883(m): 9:09am On Dec 20, 2020
bigcasava1:
am a winner and am blessed by the grace of God that is upon him. The more your type gets frustrated over his blessings the more God is enlarging his territory, his a man after God's own heart.

Okay I have heard you undecided since you are blessed according to you, What I will advise you is that when you see anyone in need don't hesitate to help....
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Starzo: 9:11am On Dec 20, 2020
AdakaBoro8:
tithe collecting pastors are all stealing. Jesus disagree with task/tithe paying.. moses time of collecting tax has past, its old things past. new life is Jesus death, we no longer pay tax.
Jesus paid tax.
Why do u guys love very spreading lies see?
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by dazzlingd(m): 9:11am On Dec 20, 2020
This old bald headed thief will do anything to keep his business booming
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Hassanmaye(m): 9:12am On Dec 20, 2020
Fahdiga:
Chai pastors are cashing out big time. how do I become a pastor?
Lol grin grin

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