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Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Hassanmaye(m): 9:13am On Dec 20, 2020
masterP042:
You don't receive salary, but who receives all the tithes and offerings? Are those bank accounts linked to God's bvn?
Akuko mma Ngozi na ndi yard
Wickedness grin grin

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Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by semyman: 9:14am On Dec 20, 2020
Criminal
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Hassanmaye(m): 9:14am On Dec 20, 2020
MJBOLT:
someone should remind OLEDEPO that jesus said that no rich man will enter the kingdom of god.
cheesy

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Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by dazzlingd(m): 9:14am On Dec 20, 2020
post=97248440:








Haaaaaaaa shocked shocked
A man of God

Why supporting oledepo bald head shameless thief
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Hassanmaye(m): 9:19am On Dec 20, 2020
kingxsamz:
Yahoo man.... This is what they use to keep their gullible members in fear.
"If you don't pay your tithe, you're robbing God", "if you complain about pastors collecting tithes, you're invoking God's wrath". Oga tell your god to send his wrath to Buhari, Bokoharam and those animals called politicians.
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grin

Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by stieyven(m): 9:20am On Dec 20, 2020
masterP042:
You don't receive salary, but who receives all the tithes and offerings? Are those bank accounts linked to God's bvn?
Akuko mma Ngozi na ndi yard
Great use of sarcasm but you didn't have to use the name of the Lord in vain. The Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain. EXODUS 20 :7
Remember that you shall be judged by every idle word you speak. Matthew 12 :36
You'll do well to receive Jesus into your life. Tomorrow may be too too late. John 3 :16

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Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by teabing: 9:21am On Dec 20, 2020
This talk no follow, let talk about how we gon get ourselves out of buhari's hand.
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by charlesucheh(m): 9:21am On Dec 20, 2020
Tilykay:


The Lord gives the wicked grace. So they live long and repent.
At the Detriment of the Meek and humble ahbi

so what's in for those who are law abiding and regardful of others
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Fahdiga(m): 9:23am On Dec 20, 2020
Farki:


Just wear a suit, pick up a Bible and tell people what they want to hear then threaten them if they don't give you money.
Lol
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Duridadi: 9:23am On Dec 20, 2020
SOME PASTORS ARE ARMED ROBBERS grin grin grin

PLEASE., repeat after me grin grin grin
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Hassanmaye(m): 9:25am On Dec 20, 2020
Lexusgs430:
Oyedepo too is stealing........... Awaiting my wrath..... I love it warm....... cheesy



grin grin
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Onuoha1234(m): 9:27am On Dec 20, 2020
Pastors are stealing no doubt about it.What hell is hotter than Nigeria now my Bishop?
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by cocolacec(m): 9:31am On Dec 20, 2020
Fahdiga:
Chai pastors are cashing out big time. how do I become a pastor?
Simple the only requirement is to say God called you.lobatan.
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by DonCortino: 9:32am On Dec 20, 2020
Sir, some pastors are thieves, fraudsters, rapists, ritualists and killers.

I will not incure any wrath from God if I speak against such lot that drag the name of Jehova in dirt. Jesus spoke against the ills the priests do during his time. God did not punish him for speaking the truth.

I can't be bullied!

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Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by ogbonti: 9:33am On Dec 20, 2020
These God of Men sef grin grin grin grin
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by DonCortino: 9:35am On Dec 20, 2020
post=97248434:
We read some comments on this forum sometimes and can only marvel! shocked

We don't know if youths of nowadays ever sit down and plan to make their life meaningful. 
All they are looking for is to say trash against men of God.
What many of you don't know is that you keep shutting doors against your self and your future when you say bs against God's servants.

Just because you have a phone do not give you the right to come online to comment on things you don't understand and say different kinda trash.

Well, we will continue to remember you in our prayers. 
We just pray God have mercy on this generation.
 

get lost!
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by ogbonti: 9:35am On Dec 20, 2020
CodeTemplar:
Jesus told you that privately or where?


One of the most famous sayings of Jesus is 'It is easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.' (This quote is found in Matthew 19:24, Mark 10:25, and Luke 18:25.)

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Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Onuoha1234(m): 9:36am On Dec 20, 2020
Yes pastors are stealing and we don't risk God's wrath.Pàstors are also candidates for judgement. Read all the shameful disclosures about Pastors transgressions ànd you weep. Bishop are you not serious?

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Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by femalecobra: 9:37am On Dec 20, 2020
I don’t think this pastors forced anybody to their church. If you feel you can’t pay offering or you are a member and angry the size of the church is big and the total offering paid is much, then try and pursue or send the members away by yourself. The man hold gun say u must come him church?
See me see trouble oo

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Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by DonCortino: 9:39am On Dec 20, 2020
charlesucheh:
God's spokes Man has just spoken!

Mean while, our politicians chopping blood money since 1856 have not yet seen that Wrath o!!!

continue....

one pastor just knack belle enter 20 women for him church and God no do am anything this man wan tell us now say if we criticize wetin that pastor do, na we God go punish.

oyedepo is no different from what apc government is doing to Nigerians.

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Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by focus7: 9:39am On Dec 20, 2020
Prosperity is not on what you are giving but on what you give

On the above quote, what did Oyedepo give to his members during the lockdown as palliative or is it forbidden for him to practice the prosperity of giving?

I remember that rather than giving what he did was posted codes to receive different categories of offering including tithe even when the people were restricted to work and earn money
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by DonCortino: 9:39am On Dec 20, 2020
femalecobra:
I don’t think this pastors forced anybody to their church. If you feel you can’t pay offering or you are a member and angry the size of the church is big and the total offering paid is much, then try and pursue or send the members away by yourself. The man hold gun say u must come him church?
See me see trouble oo

do you know what brainwashing is?
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by DonCortino: 9:41am On Dec 20, 2020
bigcasava1:
am a winner and am blessed by the grace of God that is upon him. The more your type gets frustrated over his blessings the more God is enlarging his territory, his a man after God's own heart.

God himself told you that abi?
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by DonCortino: 9:46am On Dec 20, 2020
bbode1:

A Christian will understand that tithe and offering are the commandment if God. It's written in the old testament that we should bring all tithe into the Lord house so that there be meat in his house.
Tithe and offering are for church growth and also for the payment of pastor welfare.
What so ever they do with it is not our business. Ours is to do as commanded by God.
And oyedepo as fulfilled that purpose. He recently recruited our 4000pastors plus the thousands already on payroll. He his currently starting the building if over 9000 churches worldwide.
It's written in the scriptures. He who seek first into the kingdom of God. All other things shall be added into him.

should we go listing all the laws and commandments in the old and new testament?

how many do your pastors keep besides tithe?

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Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by DonCortino: 9:47am On Dec 20, 2020
sirjoe1124:

My dad is a pastor too, I'm well into the ministry. I know all the gimmicks.

God bless you.
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by DonCortino: 9:49am On Dec 20, 2020
Alexaonfleek:
Trash.
please take your anger out on Nigerian government.
Oyedepo has helped way more people than your local government chairman has.

oyedepo is no different from Nigerian government, you try to pour sand in their garri, they come for you will laws and threats. that is what he is doing so.

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Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by mentored: 9:51am On Dec 20, 2020
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by DonCortino: 9:51am On Dec 20, 2020
Alexaonfleek:
Oyedepo has helped more Nigerians than Buhari yes or no?

he only help members of his church, if you are not a member OYO.

the occult do so too, if you ain't a member no help for u.
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Lumens247: 10:00am On Dec 20, 2020
The only issue I have with these ministries is that most of them pass the ministry to their children. Hence, all the churches being built, the assets of the ministry and the control of resources automatically defaults to the children. The wealth of the church is kept within the family...... anyway, wetin be my own? Na to serve God and forget about how the funds are utilized. Everyone will answer to baba God someday.
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by dorox(m): 10:05am On Dec 20, 2020
Your god has been powerless to effect the curses and wrath you declared on Bokoharam years ago, yet you expect people to believe that your powerless god will be able to bring wrath on innocent people with question about how their money is being used to enrich you at their expense.
The time of using monkey and tortoise story scare adults is over, people are gradually waking up to reality.
Re: Oyedepo: Those Saying Pastors Are Stealing Risk God’s Wrath by Nobody: 10:07am On Dec 20, 2020
Youngzedd:


News: Poor Nigerians Will Reach 100 Million By 2022 - World Bank >> https://punchng.com/poor-nigerians-will-reach-100-million-by-2022-world-bank/

Lets do the maths. If about 51% of the population are living in extreme poverty, that's about 105M people. Now we currently have 90M poor people making it total of 195M. Mind you, Nigeria population is about 205M. 205M - 195M = 10M.

So we currently have about 10M people who fall under both middle and upper class category.

So all this religious bullshit. See eeh, if I hear that tithe, first fruit and sowing of okra seed works, I will tear you hot slap wey go generate 2HP.

So with all our religious activities, the nation keep sinking into poverty.

You're poor because you elected ldiots in power. You're not poor because you're not worship or serving God enough.

You're poor because the people you voted in are looting away your future. Nigeria poverty rate got absolutely nothing to do with serving God. It is man made and it's left for you to hold your leaders accountable. Stop allowing religious leaders to fool you.

Last bullet: If you're making or earning less than 300,000 NGN per month in Nigeria of today, you're poor. Maybe you check your dictionary or the web who a middle class truly is.

Una mumu never do.


Deuteronomy 14:22-29

22 “You must set aside a tithe of your crops—one-tenth of all the crops you harvest each year. 23 Bring this tithe to the designated place of worship—the place the Lord your God chooses for his name to be honored—and eat it there in his presence. This applies to your tithes of grain, new wine, olive oil, and the firstborn males of your flocks and herds. Doing this will teach you always to fear the Lord your God.

24 “Now when the Lord your God blesses you with a good harvest, the place of worship he chooses for his name to be honored might be too far for you to bring the tithe. 25 If so, you may sell the tithe portion of your crops and herds, put the money in a pouch, and go to the place the Lord your God has chosen. 26 When you arrive, you may use the money to buy any kind of food you want—cattle, sheep, goats, wine, or other alcoholic drink. Then feast there in the presence of the Lord your God and celebrate with your household. 27 And do not neglect the Levites in your town, for they will receive no allotment of land among you.

28 “At the end of every third year, bring the entire tithe of that year’s harvest and store it in the nearest town. 29 Give it to the Levites, who will receive no allotment of land among you, as well as to the foreigners living among you, the orphans, and the widows in your towns, so they can eat and be satisfied. Then the Lord your God will bless you in all your work.




TITHING DEMYSTIFIED

OLD COVENANT

There are 3 types of tithing.

1) Tithe of the feast: This tithe is for your consumption and you do it every first and second year.
Deuteronomy 14:22-26 explains it all.

2) Levitcal tithe: This tithe is what you give to the Levite (only to the descendants of Jacob’s son Levi) in the third year after you have eaten your tithe in the first and second year.

Deuteronomy 14:28-29, Deuteronomy 26:12 and Numbers 18:21- 25 explains it all.

The strict condition here is that you must be the bloodline of Levi to collect tithe. No body else on earth is qualified to collect this tithe apart from those who have the blood of Jacob's son Levi running through their veins. Any other person who collect this is either a criminal or ignorant.

3) Tithe to the needy: In the third year after you have previously eaten your tithe in the first and second year, you're to give the tithe of the third year to the foreigners, the fatherless and the widows.

Levitcal tithe and tithe to the poor is for the third year, that's to say, you share it between the Levites, foreigners, fatherless and widows. It is only meant for this four set of people.

What about Malachi 3:8-10?

Well, God was talking to the Levites and not the Israelites who bring the tithe. Among the Levites, there's a high priest who enters the holiest of holy. Read from Malachi 2:1 to see that God was talking to the Priests (Levites).

The priests (Levites) were playing smart on the tithe they collect from the Israelites.

THE STORE HOUSE

The Levites (priests) were to take out 10% of the tithe they collect from the Israelites and keep in the store house, Numbers 18:25 - 29 explains it, but they stopped doing it, they started making smart move on it and God was angry with them.

They were misbehaving with the tithes they collected, the book of Nehemiah 13:4 - 13 explains it.

NEW COVENANT

In the new covenant, you as a believer is the church (house of Yahuah/God) not a building (2 Corinthians 5:1, Acts 17:24, Acts 7:48, Matthew 24:1-2 and John 4:21-24) and a priest while Yahushua (Christ) is the high priest (Read Hebrew 7).

Because you as a believer is the church, there's no physical store house or temple, you are now the spiritual temple God dwell in, if you are the temple they use to bring their tithes to, then it's you that will consume the tithe not a Pastor or Priest.

In the entire new testament, there's no place Christ or the believers preached, received or collected tithe. Think for a minute, if the new testament is the Christian manual, why is tithing not there and what does that tell you?

C'mon, tithing and first fruit have no place in Christianity. It is what it is.

Tithing is excepting yourself from the sacrifice of Christ on the cross.

In the new covenant, the law was fulfilled by Christ and we are no longer under the law. After resurrection of Christ, the law became weak and useless as seen in the Hebrew 7:8-19.

Hebrews 7:18-19
18 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless 19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.

Galatians 3:19-20
Why, then, was the law given at all? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was given through angels and entrusted to a mediator. 20 A mediator,however, implies more than one party; but God is one.

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* Christ is the seed been referred to here.

Colossians 2:17
These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.
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The 613 laws are shadows until Christ came. Christ fulfilled the law, done and dusted, chapter closed forever. That's why it's now weak and useless.

Hebrews 7:12
For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed also.
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Hebrew 8 vs 13
"By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear."

Romans 7:6
But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

Galatians 3:10
For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”


* If you're to obey the laws in the old testament to be right with God, you're to obey ALL the 613 laws otherwise you're under a curse. Tithing to fulfil what's written in the book of law attracts a curse. Stop tithing, you're bringing a curse to yourself.

James 2:10
For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

Galatians 2:21
I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!”

Hebrews 10:9-10
9 Then he said, “Here I am, I have come to do your will.” He sets aside the first to establish the second. 10 And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Christ once for all.

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He set aside OLD COVENANT found in the old testament to establish the NEW COVENANT found in the new testament.

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2 Corinthians 3:6
He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
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* The letter here is the old covenants (laws) while the spirit is the new covenant. Read the whole chapter for better understanding.

Please brothers and sisters, do yourself a favour and read the whole of 2 Corinthians 3. Verse 14 "But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away." is exactly what is happening in Christianity today. The minds of many were made dull.

Never allow any man born of flesh push you to do the things that are now weak and useless.
If Christ and the early Christians didn't do it, I tell you today, don't do it no matter the pressure.

The new testament scriptures are Christian manual, anything not found there shouldn't be a doctrine.

I still remain the son of the TRUTH.
You be man
One crate of chilled Heineken for you

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