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Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by rosstiti: 5:02am On Jan 15, 2021
naijadrivablog:
Op don smoke weed.

Don't you know that all humans used to speak one language until God separated it during the time when man built Tower or Bethel

That is a biblical allegory that is not necessarily meant for literal interpretation. In other words, grow up.


It is only natural that there will be similarities in languages. Now all those names you listed, do they have the same meaning

It is not ''natural'' to have this uncanny level of linguistic similarity between two spatially distant regions.

This goes beyond mere linguistic similarities, which, if you had a working brain, you would decipher from the second post after the list.

Now go back and read the RESEARCH that was posted, if you actually have an interest in learning.
Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by Aconomist: 5:09am On Jan 15, 2021
rosstiti:


That is a biblical allegory that is not necessarily meant for literal interpretation. In other words, grow up.




It is not ''natural'' to have this uncanny level of linguistic similarity between two spatially distant regions.

This goes beyond mere linguistic similarities, which, if you had a working brain, you would decipher from the second post after the list.

Now go back and read the RESEARCH that was posted, if you actually have an interest in learning.
You garden ape. Linguistic similarity in found in syntax, tonality, unique sounds, etc. NOT a few words that sound the same. As a previous poster mentioned, Japanese is a linguistic outlier with no similarities to other known languages.

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Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by Nobody: 5:18am On Jan 15, 2021
#Close this thread already!

You are embarrassing us. Fact.

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Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by rosstiti: 5:25am On Jan 15, 2021
mansakhalifa:


You clown.

You are always making a mockery of yourself on this forum.

And now, you refer to me as an illiterate? Hilarious. I've got more education than you will ever have in your entire life. Just take a look at your badly misinformed post.

Take down this eyesore you call a post and read something proper. Japanese is a language isolate. I'm 100% sure that you don't even have an idea what that is. A language isolate has no relations in the world, in case you don't know. So, there is no way it can be related to any of the languages found within Nigeria today. You want to look, look at Asia and Polynesia to find out the exact origins of the Japanese.

Stop making a mockery of yourself and this forum, man.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Japanese-language

There^^^ a Japanese prof wrote that. I guess you know his people's history better than him, right? Genius smiley


Small child that read a document and now thinks he's an expert.

Japanese being a language isolate is merely a POSTULATION, and is not based on fact.

''[Japanese] is a member of the Japonic (or Japanese-Ryukyuan) language family, and its relation to other languages, such as Korean, is debated. Japonic languages have been grouped with other language families such as Ainu, Austroasiatic, and the now-discredited Altaic, but none of these proposals has gained widespread acceptance. Little is known of the language's prehistory, or when it first appeared in Japan.''


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_language

In other words, they don't know.

Same way the Japs can not be said to be related in any way to any ethnic group within Africa.

You wouldn't utter this bit of ignorance if you had read the second post after the language list.

You cannmot just ignore research that you don't like and pretend it wasn't posted.

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Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by Nobody: 5:39am On Jan 15, 2021
''[Japanese] is a member of the Japonic (or Japanese-Ryukyuan) language family, and its relation to other languages, such as Korean, is debated. Japonic languages have been grouped with other language families such as Ainu, Austroasiatic, and the now-discredited Altaic, but none of these proposals has gained widespread acceptance. Little is known of the language's prehistory, or when it first appeared in Japan.''

Fact remains... Japanese or the Japonic languages, taken as a whole, are language isolates. That hasn't changed. In fact, linking them to a neighbouring Asian languages is giving experts who are far more qualified than you are a hell of a headache.

So, now an extremely smart genius from one corner of Nigeria is actually trying to link this same language to some distant languages in Africa using a few 'similar-sounding' words. smiley

Now, in all the or possible relations brought forward in the excerpt that you quoted, why wasn't any African language put forward for consideration by the experts? At least, Korean was included, so were Ainu, the Altaic languages and even the Austronesian languages. And in all of these, there was no African language to be considered in the M.I.X!

Let me guess, you have superior knowledge of all things Japanese and you know better than the experts?

And why did you comfortably leave out the part where I said that anyone looking to establish the origins of the Japs should beam his/her searchlight on Asia or Polynesia- by the way? Guess you weren't exactly comfortable with that since it doesn't fit into your crooked narrative.

You didn't do any research of your own and boom you just woke up to feed us this folderol so early in the day.

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Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by rosstiti: 5:43am On Jan 15, 2021
HERE IS AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION ON QUORA REGARDING THE STARTLING SIMILARITIES BETWEEN WEST AFRICAN AND JAPANESE LANGUAGES

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-some-West-African-languages-share-similarities-with-Japanese
Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by rosstiti: 5:45am On Jan 15, 2021
mansakhalifa:


And why did you comfortably leave out the part where I said that anyone looking to establish the origins of the Japs should beam his/her searchlight on Asia or Polynesia- by the way? Guess you weren't exactly comfortable with that since it doesn't fit into your crooked narrative.

Polynesian and Chinese links to Africa are even easer to prove than Japanese links to Africa.


Chinese Roots Lie in Africa, Research Says

By ROBERT LEE HOTZ

Los Angeles Times


Most of the population of modern China--one-fifth of all the people living today--owes its genetic origins to Africa, an international scientific team said today in research that undercuts any claim that modern humans may have originated independently in China.

In the search for human origins, in which political beliefs and pride of place can figure as prominently as fossil evidence, the genetic findings dramatically illustrate the intricate weave of prehistoric migrations and human evolution, the scientists said.

Published today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, the study is the product of the Chinese Human Genome Diversity Project, a consortium of seven major research groups in the People’s Republic of China, and the Human Genetics Center at the University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston. It was funded by the National Natural Science Foundation of China.

The group used the advanced tools of DNA analysis to create detailed genetic profiles of 28 of China’s official population groups, which comprise more than 90% of the country’s population...

“Populations from East Asia always derived from a single lineage, indicating the single origins of those populations,” the researchers said. “It is now probably safe to conclude that modern humans originating in Africa constitute the majority of the current gene pool in East Asia,” they said.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1998-sep-29-mn-27603-story.html#:~:text=Most%20of%20the%20population%20of,have%20originated%20independently%20in%20China.

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Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by Nobody: 5:48am On Jan 15, 2021
rosstiti:
HERE IS AN INTERESTING DISCUSSION ON QUORA REGARDING THE STARTLING SIMILARITIES BETWEEN WEST AFRICAN AND JAPANESE LANGUAGES

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-some-West-African-languages-share-similarities-with-Japanese

I have seen that inconclusive discussion on Quora once and I can boldly say that it does not in any way buttress what you are trying to push across to us.

Try again.

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Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by Nobody: 5:51am On Jan 15, 2021
rosstiti:


Polynesian and Chinese links to Africa are even easer to prove than Japanese links to Africa.


smiley

Really?

This is getting really interesting...

Even the Polynesians? smiley
Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by Nobody: 5:53am On Jan 15, 2021
Dammit.

I'm giving this fellow way more attention than he's actually earned.

Out of here before I lose my mind.

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Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by rosstiti: 5:55am On Jan 15, 2021
THEY WERE ALL BLACK






Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by Nobody: 5:59am On Jan 15, 2021
rosstiti:


Polynesian and Chinese links to Africa are even easer to prove than Japanese links to Africa.


Chinese Roots Lie in Africa, Research Says

By ROBERT LEE HOTZ

Los Angeles Times


Most of the population of modern China--one-fifth of all the people living today--owes its genetic origins to Africa, an international scientific team said today in research that undercuts any claim that modern humans may have originated independently in China.

In the search for human origins, in which political beliefs and pride of place can figure as prominently as fossil evidence, the genetic findings dramatically illustrate the intricate weave of prehistoric migrations and human evolution, the scientists said.

Published today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, the study is the product of the Chinese Human Genome Diversity Project, a consortium of seven major research groups in the People’s Republic of China, and the Human Genetics Center at the University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston. It was funded by the National Natural Science Foundation of China.

The group used the advanced tools of DNA analysis to create detailed genetic profiles of 28 of China’s official population groups, which comprise more than 90% of the country’s population...

“Populations from East Asia always derived from a single lineage, indicating the single origins of those populations,” the researchers said. “It is now probably safe to conclude that modern humans originating in Africa constitute the majority of the current gene pool in East Asia,” they said.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1998-sep-29-mn-27603-story.html#:~:text=Most%20of%20the%20population%20of,have%20originated%20independently%20in%20China.

Yes, this is similar to the "Out of Africa" Theory. I knew you were going to throw this up.

What next?

If we keep going at this rate, then we can safely say that all humans are Africans. You know that, right?

So, how does this latest revelation tie into your whole linguistic similarities theory, sir?

Or how does it in any way prove your postulation that West Africa is the actual origin of the Japs? Care to explain further?

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Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by rosstiti: 6:01am On Jan 15, 2021




Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by rosstiti: 6:09am On Jan 15, 2021
mansakhalifa:


Yes, this is similar to the "Out of Africa" Theory. I knew you were going to throw this up.

What next?

If we keep going at this rate, then we can safely say that all humans are Africans. You know that, right?

So, how does this latest revelation tie into your whole linguistic similarities theory, sir?

Or how does it in any way prove your postulation that West Africa is the actual origin of the Japs? Care to explain further?

I'm glad you acknowledged the Out of Africa theory. (It's so widely accepted now, it's actually a misnomer to call it a 'theory')

Of course all humans first migrated from Africa. That should make it less contentious, these connections I'm making. But for some reason, many see them as strange or crazy.

You cannot dismiss the congruences between West African and Japanese languages, even if SUSPICIOUSLY little research has been conducted into the amazing similarities.

The fact that modern researchers have refused to 'go there' alone is enough to ring alarm bells.

That list was not even exhaustive. I left out many other stunning similarities like

Haruna

Sambo

Chichi

Abukuma

Okoro

Ugo

Iheya

Obuchi

Ikedia

Owarri (Owerri)

Ofunato, and many others:


https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/9qumy4/is_there_a_mysterious_ancient_link_between/
Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by Nobody: 6:14am On Jan 15, 2021
Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by Nobody: 6:15am On Jan 15, 2021
rosstiti:


I'm glad you acknowledged the Out of Africa theory.

Of course all humans first migrated from Africa. That should make it less contentious, these connections I'm making. But for some reason, many see them as strange or crazy.

You cannot dismiss the congruences between West African and Japanese languages, even if SUSPICIOUSLY little research has been conducted into the amazing similarities.

The fact that modern researchers have refused to 'go there' alone is enough to ring alarm bells.

That list was not even exhaustive. I left out many other stunning similarities like

Haruna

Sambo

Chichi

Abukuma

Okoro

Ugo

Iheya

Ofunato, and many others:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/9qumy4/is_there_a_mysterious_ancient_link_between/

Can I ask you a question?

Are Kenyans Nigerians?

Now, don't think I'm going crazy, sir?

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Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by rosstiti: 6:18am On Jan 15, 2021
mansakhalifa:


Can I ask you a question?

Are Kenyans Nigerians?

Now, don't think I'm going crazy, sir?

No, BUT there is some evidence that many occupants of present day Nigeria migrated from East and North East Africa in antiquity. There has always been migration within the continent, as well as out of it.
Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by rosstiti: 6:24am On Jan 15, 2021
mansakhalifa:
This sort of rubbishes your Africa-Polynesia link, doesn't it?



https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.quora.com/Do-Polynesians-have-any-African-descent-Where-did-the-original-Polynesians-come-from&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjelaOJlp3uAhXG3KQKHfNvCL8QFjAKegQIChAB&usg=AOvVaw2RnoAc2xVE5hOD0VjOka5V


And this too:
https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2211537/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiNut2El53uAhXS_KQKHXntCv4QFjAAegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw2uozZSK_amCyT-LMReRu8n

Nothing I read here disproves African ancestry.

Look, most scholars out there want to distance themselves from their African progenitors, due to the rise of anti-African racism.

But the artefacts do not lie. The genetic research, WHERE DONE WITH INTEGRITY, proves conclusively their African heritage.
Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by Nobody: 6:39am On Jan 15, 2021
rosstiti:


Nothing I read here disproves African ancestry.

Look, most scholars out there want to distance themselves from their African progenitors, due to the rise of anti-African racism.

But the artefacts do not lie. The genetic research, WHERE DONE WITH INTEGRITY, proves conclusively their African heritage.


Please, don't play the race/racism card here. It will not work in this scenario.

And what artefacts??

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Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by Nobody: 6:40am On Jan 15, 2021
rosstiti:


No, BUT there is some evidence that many occupants of present day Nigeria migrated from East and North East Africa in antiquity. There has always been migration within the continent, as well as out of it.

OK, good. Are Kenyans Igbos?
Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by rosstiti: 6:47am On Jan 15, 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpB-2Xot7I4&feature=share

Another interesting video.

Isn't it weird how the left picture looks even more Asian than the right one?
Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by rosstiti: 6:51am On Jan 15, 2021
mansakhalifa:


OK, good. Are Kenyans Igbos?

Not to my knowledge. But I read once about similarities between a certain ethnic group in that region with Igbos, leading one suspect they were united as a group at some point in antiquity prior to Igbo migration to their present location in Nigeria.
Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by pquaver(m): 6:52am On Jan 15, 2021
Mocata:


Devopment of Japan will soon commence

Omo this one off me.. Lol
Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by rosstiti: 6:57am On Jan 15, 2021
mansakhalifa:


Please, don't play the race/racism card here. It will not work in this scenario.

And what artefacts??

Oh the race issue is ALWAYS at play when it comes to Africa's role in world history. Denying that is denying the most basic of realities.

This is a modern Ainu priest of modern Japan. He is a direct descendant of the first Japanese people who were black African.


Here is another Ainu man from Japan

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Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by KAHBOOM: 6:59am On Jan 15, 2021
rosstiti:


I'm not Japanese. The Japanese are ME.

See, educated people like us go by the research, and the research as posted above, conducted by people with 20 times your intelligence
and education, shows very clearly the black African ancestry of modern Japanese people.

Now, crawl back under the little rock you crawled out of, you dirty maggot.

Don't mind him.

Some people don't know that the black race occupied the farthest part of the world before the whites came.
As far away India is from Africa we have pure black tribe living there.The sidi and the sentinels.

White indians are trying to occupy the land of the sentinels the way the Japanese occupied the land of the indigenous blacks and wiped out every trace of there history.

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Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by Beremx(f): 7:05am On Jan 15, 2021
This is interesting.

So how come the Japanese have white skin? Are the indigenous black Japanese still existing?

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Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by rosstiti: 7:08am On Jan 15, 2021
More Ainu People of Japan

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Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by rosstiti: 7:14am On Jan 15, 2021
Beremx:
This is interesting.

So how come the Japanese have white skin? Are the indigenous black Japanese still existing?

The Ainu people, who are still existing in the mountains of Japan, were the original settlers of Japan and they brought civilization to the region. Climatic adaptation led to the gradual lightening of their skin colour, in addition to intermarriage following the entry of some Mongoloid groups from less developed neighbouring regions of the time.

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Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by SaintBishop: 7:24am On Jan 15, 2021
Japanese looks nothing like Nigerians, don't be silly mr poster.
Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by Rossinnki: 7:29am On Jan 15, 2021
SaintBishop:
Japanese looks nothing like Nigerians, don't be silly mr poster.

Use your head. There is no way they will ''look like Nigerians'' after thousands of years of emigration from Africa.

You no get sense?

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Re: Are The Japanese Descended From Ancient Nigerian Migrants? by SaintBishop: 7:34am On Jan 15, 2021
Rossinnki:


Use your head. There is no way they will ''look like Nigerians'' after thousands of years of emigration from Africa.

You no get sense?
I should be asking u that question, m0rons like u makes me sick with disgust.

Spits*

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