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Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by danilmo: 8:30pm On Jan 16, 2021
shosky1794:


We Yoruba would be selfish to demand for the presidency in 2023. What more can we ask for after being President and VP for 16 years in 24 years

lol, omo Yebo u and who are the we, lol.

meanwhile Yoruba negotiated for it. they aren't demanding it, Igbo say they dont negotiate ,

so let's wait and see who get it between one who demands and one who negotiates.

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Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by toye440: 8:49pm On Jan 16, 2021
the south would fix it then our. hopeless Alakuberians would take us back to their camel age. We no do again, shey una sabi divorce well we'll, oya make we divorce make everybody answer him papa name..
Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by Deepthoughts: 9:43pm On Jan 16, 2021
danilmo:


he is telling u guys the indirect truth that power is negotiated and not dashed, having the feeling that u can b dashed is the reason why u insult other tribe across d nation in slight opportunity, u think u guys are the only tribe that is feeling misrule of PMB?? just to chill na no no for una, today ur people are now begging to b dashed..dont worry wen Tinubu/his anointed son match for the ticket on primary u guys should protest and go to court say una no gree.

funny tribe
To persons like you anyone that's sympathetic to the SE by must be an igbo,to disappoint you I'm proudly a Christian minority from the north central but I strongly believe in justice, the igbos surely have their shortcomings but so is equally every ethnic group and region in the country, you might feel you n your kind hold the aces n therefore expect others to come begging so that you can give conditions hence the use if the term" negotiate,",what negotiations exactly did the SW did in 1999 before the presidency was given to them, which one did buhari/NW did,or was it the threat of violence that was the negotiations?,it was your own Ahmadu Bello that said" conscience is an open wound only the truth can heal" he was certainly right n except we accept the truth the country shall continue to experience numerous upheavals hindering unity peace n real progress.

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Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by danilmo: 10:01pm On Jan 16, 2021
Deepthoughts:
To persons like you anyone that's sympathetic to the SE by must be an igbo,to disappoint you I'm proudly a Christian minority from the north central but I strongly believe in justice, the igbos surely have their shortcomings but so is equally every ethnic group and region in the country, you might feel you n your kind hold the aces n therefore expect others to come begging so that you can give conditions hence the use if the term" negotiate,",what negotiations exactly did the SW did in 1999 before the presidency was given to them, which one did buhari/NW did,or was it the threat of violence that was the negotiations?,it was your own Ahmadu Bello that said" conscience is an open wound only the truth can heal" he was certainly right n except we accept the truth the country shall continue to experience numerous upheavals hindering unity peace n real progress.

all this super story will not make APC zone to SE, doing that ll make APC loose national, these people would rather vote a shekau boko haram in PDP than a brilliant co igbo in APC, they hate d party with fashion, don't tell me u aren't aware of the travails of David umahi wen he defected to APC, they sees him as betrayer waiting to teach him a bitter lesson..

why is the simple logic difficult for u to understand bro..?? most we open mouth always?? the pressure they mount on APC why can't they mount such on PDP?? because they want APC make the costly mistake so PDP can take advantage..

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Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by Deepthoughts: 10:24pm On Jan 16, 2021
danilmo:


all this super story will not make APC zone to SE, doing that ll make APC loose national, these people would rather vote a shekau boko haram in PDP than a brilliant co igbo in APC, they hate d party with fashion, don't tell me u aren't aware of the travails of David umahi wen he defected to APC, they sees him as betrayer waiting to teach him a bitter lesson..

why is the simple logic difficult for u to understand bro..?? most we open mouth always?? the pressure they mount on APC why can't they mount such on PDP?? because they want APC make the costly mistake so PDP can take advantage..
Talking about umahi,he cause it himself, using lies to justify his defection n then condemning every other person,and you expect everyone to applaud him because he went to Apc?,by the he way is there no single competent igbo in APC?, obasanjo was never liked by the he SW but he was given the chance presidency in 1999,the north had reservations about Yar'adua but he was given the presidency in 2007?so why not the SE?

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Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 10:44pm On Jan 16, 2021
Latvin:


Most of what is said before now centers around cries of marginalisation and why the rest of the country do not want a SE president.

In my view, that is victim mentality and the wrong way to approach the issue. A concrete plan and perfect implementation of how to get both parties to nominate SE candidates as their flagbearers is the way to go. It is hard work but very achievable.

One recent example I can give to illustrate my point - prior to the Edo State election, some people were already crying foul, saying APC will rig the election, bla bla bla. But the people got off their backsides, said Edo was not Lagos, mobilized to stop rigging attempts, voted for their choice and defended it with their lives. That was bold action to actualize their collective will. It may not be entirely similar but circumstances are the same





When the people of SE talk about marginalisation, they're talking about the injustice called quota system and its selective application , the systematic deprivation of the region in relation to democratic dividends not party politics or politics of godfatherism in Edo state.

E.g an UTME candidate (UNN law aspirant) from Imo state with an aggregate score of 280 may not be admitted but a candidate from Zamfara state with an aggregate score of 220 will be admitted just because he's from ZAMFARA an Educationally Less Developed State (ELDS)

In NDA Zaria , the examination or method of admission is not open. Competence or merit is discarded in favour of quota system.

There are six geopolitical zone in Nigeria , the SE has the lowest number of state.

A particular region is headìng the Airforce , Army , Navy , Police and DSS. Here nobody gave a fvck about the federal character principle or quota system.

However , in a sane society with strong and independent government institutions nobody cares about where the Head of State comes from or the regìon in control of the security architecture of the State.
Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by BSdetector: 11:43pm On Jan 16, 2021
shosky1794:


We Yoruba would be selfish to demand for the presidency in 2023. What more can we ask for after being President and VP for 16 years in 24 years

Omo igbo it's not selfishness, it's politics and if you're really a Yoruba you should know that Obasanjo wasn't really a Yoruba presidency..our man was falae. And it was supposedly a reward for the MKO saga. Socially, politically and geographically the igbos really don't deserve the presidency, and it can't be gotten on a platter of gold.

Anyways whoever gets it doesn't affect my portfolio so am largely indifferent.
Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by Latvin: 3:15am On Jan 17, 2021
OkpaNsukkaisBae:






When the people of SE talk about marginalisation, they're talking about the injustice called quota system and its selective application , the systematic deprivation of the region in relation to democratic dividends not party politics or politics of godfatherism in Edo state.

E.g an UTME candidate (UNN law aspirant) from Imo state with an aggregate score of 280 may not be admitted but a candidate from Zamfara state with an aggregate score of 220 will be admitted just because he's from ZAMFARA an Educationally Less Developed State (ELDS)

In NDA Zaria , the examination or method of admission is not open. Competence or merit is discarded in favour of quota system.

There are six geopolitical zone in Nigeria , the SE has the lowest number of state.

A particular region is headìng the Airforce , Army , Navy , Police and DSS. Here nobody gave a fvck about the federal character principle or quota system.

However , in a sane society with strong and independent government institutions nobody cares about where the Head of State comes from or the regìon in control of the security architecture of the State.

So how is that a SE problem alone? You don't think the SS, NC and SW can say this same thing?
Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by bluecircle470: 5:30am On Jan 17, 2021
Deepthoughts:
People like zulum are only playing to the gallery,if zulum truly believe in equity n fairness then he should be bold to categorically state that the presidency should go to the SE in 2023, any pronouncement short of that is mere pretence.

SE should work for it not that they should sit like a slowpoke and expecting it on a platter of gold
Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by cktheluckyman: 5:35am On Jan 17, 2021
BSdetector:


Omo igbo it's not selfishness, it's politics and if you're really a Yoruba you should know that Obasanjo wasn't really a Yoruba presidency..our man was falae. And it was supposedly a reward for the MKO saga. Socially, politically and geographically the igbos really don't deserve the presidency, and it can't be gotten on a platter of gold.

Anyways whoever gets it doesn't affect my portfolio so am largely indifferent.
Well the Obasanjo presidency is the only one yorubas will have in the next century,better live with it
Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by blacknoir: 6:12am On Jan 17, 2021
I honestly don't want tinubu to run,my prayer is for God to bring someone more competent that will wipe all the tears that buhari has caused
Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 6:41am On Jan 17, 2021
Latvin:


So how is that a SE problem alone? You don't think the SS, NC and SW can say this same thing?


You mean that SE having the lowest number of states is a SW , NC & SS problem?
Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by Oracleforce: 7:29am On Jan 17, 2021
IamAtikulate:

Below was what he said

Umahi/Zulum >> we move

Day-dreamer...you better wake up from your sleep and chop and play with your phone.....because that is your mission on earth....

Look at the history of governance in this country and tell me if Hausa -Fulani has ever handed- over power to the south-eastern region
Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by Deepthoughts: 7:39am On Jan 17, 2021
bluecircle470:


SE should work for it not that they should sit like a slowpoke and expecting it on a platter of gold
They are already working twice on it,but whatever they do the rest of the country appears to be doubtful,no zone has faced so much hurdles to succeed before.
Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by danilmo: 8:08am On Jan 17, 2021
Deepthoughts:
Talking about umahi,he cause it himself, using lies to justify his defection n then condemning every other person,and you expect everyone to applaud him because he went to Apc?,by the he way is there no single competent igbo in APC?, obasanjo was never liked by the he SW but he was given the chance presidency in 1999,the north had reservations about Yar'adua but he was given the presidency in 2007?so why not the SE?

u mean we should enforce presidency on a tribe who rubbish and insult 2 other tribe at the slight chance, who never talk abt the nations unity, Nigerians don't trust them with power that's the plain truth. not even under a party they tagged Islamic janja weed party..

Nigeria now has 2 national party who are keen on winning and retaining federal power. not wen only pdp determine who wins presidency, so strategic politics is d order of the day here.

and I think rotation should b North and South, if u can't figure itself with ur neighborhood then none of anyone's business, or u wish Hausa too should start clamoring for presidency? after all only Fulani has been presiding all this while in north, so microzoning isn't d way forward, its illogical..

let SE settle themselves among their neighboring SW and SS and if they can't that means they have issue and should settle themselves out...

or u mean if their leaders stand up one day to meet Jagaban, plead him to calm down for them, u think he can't ?? once Jagaban stand up in their support even PDP will have no choice than to microzone to them but hell knows theve insulted Jagaban who is seen as the political leader of SW, theve broken the close bond beyond so pride wont let them do so, hence they end up quoting unrealistic defence on why they should b gifted presidency just like that, if u are a politician u ll know politic is negotiations and bargaining , this brings in unity, Yoruba and north currently have the political unity borne out of negotiations but not SE, they prefer otherwise only to start seeing reality and ure hear telling how obj and yaradua was gifted, u aren't been realistic with fact bro, politics is a life game esp under 2 major party.


shallom
Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by IamAtikulate: 8:36am On Jan 17, 2021
Oracleforce:


Day-dreamer...you better wake up from your sleep and chop and play with your phone.....because that is your mission on earth....

Look at the history of governance in this country and tell me if Hausa -Fulani has ever handed- over power to the south-eastern region
Yorubas are always deceiving themselves, yet Ekwueme was picked as VP 7 years after the war ahead of a Yoruba, yet Bihari ran with an Igbo VP first before considering Yorubas.

Do you think this country will hand over power to people believed to shady and unreliable?

You must be joking.

If power must cede to SW, it will not be to whom Yoruba people choose but whom other region choose.

Just like OBJ vs Falae.

SW is doing16 years in the presidency.

NW is doing 18 years.

NE did 8 years.

SS did 10 years.

NC did 0 years.

SE did 0 years.

Only fools believe power is going to SW.

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Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by Ngorbungor(m): 8:42am On Jan 17, 2021
valentineuwakwe:
I don't know why most politicians in Nigeria at too greedy n selfish..a country like Nigeria where ethnicity n sentiments is the order of the day, is where some on will call rotational presidency old school.
Even if its not constitutional but a gentleman agreement was reach since 1999 by the various politicians n political party to allow power shifts btw north and south.this have been going on until Yar adua death. GEJ was suppose to adhere to that agreement but selfish southern politicians lure him to contest.even wen GEJ agree and beg Northern Elders n Elites to allow him contest n promise them to go for a term in order to win his support, he still tried going for second term and the result is what we are seeing now; the north still want to rule for another 4 years after 2023..

Now who hold claims to 2023 presidency? is it the south south, wishing to complete there 2nd term....is not the north, wishing to match n finish Yar adua term.....is it the west who claim TINUBU had an agreement with president Buhari to take over or the south east who are not yet organise but are spitting fire to occupy the seat....

I pray Nigeria don't boil over by 2022......everyone is talking about 2023 while the real timebomb will be 2022..May God intervene in the affairs of NIGERIA!

I don't understand what you mean by south east not organise
Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by galaxypropertie: 8:46am On Jan 17, 2021
Jagznation:
yes offcos power should shift to the south-east

That's right
Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by Ngorbungor(m): 8:55am On Jan 17, 2021
kalu61:
Umahi, Ogbonnaya Onu, OUK are the only three candidates from SE in APC.

Moughalu is not a politician and politically naive. He has no network, leadership experience and mass appeal. Infact, most igbos haven't heard that name. Only few of us online.
I agree Ohanaeze don't have grip on SE voters but their power cannot be under rated.

I don't like how you guys bring down your own people because of lack of understanding, my question is who is VP Yemi Osibanjo before they picked him as the VP? Who knows him then? Didn't his people rally round him? Let's stop this please, even interms of economic know how moghalu still have more experience than VP Osibanjo

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Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by Anambra1stS0n: 9:00am On Jan 17, 2021
BastardWike:


You're a hypocrite and very selfish man yet you always try to hide it. Your type is dangerous to any country, a wolf in sheep's clothing.
and NGpatriot are typical Yoruba characters, PMB is best now because his kinsman is VP, only smart guys know their type, you will see the other side of them if APC fail to give Yoruba man ticket, the will create a new monikers to attack

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Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by kalu61(m): 9:03am On Jan 17, 2021
Ngorbungor:


I don't like how you guys bring down your own people because of lack of understanding, my question is who is VP Yemi Osibanjo before they picked him as the VP? Who knows him then? Didn't his people rally round him? Let's stop this please, even interms of economic know how moghalu still have more experience than VP Osibanjo
You could have disputed me claim but however, Yemi worked at the state level. Tinubu was the back bone of APC and Yemi was his gift. Yemi had godfather in Tinubu. Yemi was not selected because he is a Prof. or Lawyer

Now tell me, who is backing Moghalu?
Who does he know?
You are talking about presidency not VP.

face fact, this Nigeria political terrain for you.
Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by Ngorbungor(m): 9:27am On Jan 17, 2021
kalu61:
You could have disputed me claim but however, Yemi worked at the state level. Tinubu was the back bone of APC and Yemi was his gift. Yemi had godfather in Tinubu. Yemi was not selected because he is a Prof. or Lawyer

Now tell me, who is backing Moghalu?
Who does he know?
You are talking about presidency not VP.

face fact, this Nigeria political terrain for you.

That's where we are getting it wrong, must you have a godfather before you become a governor or a president? You and I know that Moghalu is competent enough to govern Nigeria, Peter Obi is even more better, so for me I don't subscribe to that notion of having a godfather before you become anything in Nigeria, and please I need an answer, who was Buhari's godfather, who was Obasanjo's godfather?

As for who is backing Moghalu, Same question who backed Buhari, my answer is simple The Masses, so what I will tell Moghalu is to try to work towards the masses, and then few elite, seems he has started that, but I wish him luck

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Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by kalu61(m): 9:42am On Jan 17, 2021
Ngorbungor:


That's where we are getting it wrong, must you have a godfather before you become a governor or a president? You and I know that Moghalu is competent enough to govern Nigeria, Peter Obi is even more better, so for me I don't subscribe to that notion of having a godfather before you become anything in Nigeria, and please I need an answer, who was Buhari's godfather, who was Obasanjo's godfather?
Yes, you are correct. We must grow beyond godfatherism to make our country better but as it stands now, godfatherism is part and parcel of politics all over the world. It's called mentor is fair term.

I never disputed Moghalu's competence, remember. I talked about his naivity in the game.

As for Buhari and OBJ, these are different scenarios. Those men were ruled this country: Leadership experience and also built their Network with the world, elites and masses. Do Moghalu has any of these?

Once head of state, their names were familiar and rang bell, can we say same of Moghalu. Do a market woman in your village know the name Moghalu. That's tells you how it will be difficult to sell his name.

The millitry men who ruled this country are still deciding who rules the country among themselves. Obj and PMB formal general with other generals behind the scene. Why did Moghalu visit IBB last week?

Moghalu cannot win a senate seat in Anambra, Ifeanyi Uba, Ekweremadu and Abaribe and co has more political value in Nigeria politics.

I'm a factual person, sorry if l hurt your feelings
Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by Sctests: 9:57am On Jan 17, 2021
Even Governor Zulum knows it's time for a president of Eastern extraction.

Ogbonnaya/Zulum, Umahi/Zulum, OUK/Zulum issokay.
Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by Oracleforce: 12:38pm On Jan 17, 2021
IamAtikulate:

Yorubas are always deceiving themselves, yet Ekwueme was picked as VP 7 years after the war ahead of a Yoruba, yet Bihari ran with an Igbo VP first before considering Yorubas.

Do you think this country will hand over power to people believed to shady and unreliable?

You must be joking.

If power must cede to SW, it will not be to whom Yoruba people choose but whom other region choose.

Just like OBJ vs Falae.

SW is doing16 years in the presidency.

NW is doing 18 years.

NE did 8 years.

SS did 10 years.

NC did 0 years.

SE did 0 years.

Only fools believe power is going to SW.


Since your region didn't support baba Buhari, ...Hausa-Fulani can never support your region.

Your people are noisemakers and fugitive like Nnamdi COWnu, .....so, 2023, your noise-making continue...
Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by BastardWike: 1:32pm On Jan 17, 2021
post=98145420:

and NGpatriot are typical Yoruba characters, PMB is best now because his kinsman is VP, only smart guys know their type, you will see the other side of them if APC fail to give Yoruba man ticket, the will create a new monikers to attack


These people are terrible in nature. Even Sanusi Lamido had to keep diplomacy aside to say it openly that they're evil and chameleonic in nature.

At a time when well meaning Hausa and Fulani people are coming out to call Buhari to order, these people from the waste kept telling him he was the best thing to happen to Nigeria, not because they truly like him but because they are hoping to exploit him.

They think they're smart but in reality, they can't see beyond their noses. The North will rather support a candidate from SE or even SS than SW based on the fact that supporting SW, especially a character like Tinubu or anyone close to him will mean enthroning them as the new power block. Also, it doesn't make sense to support power rotation only to hand power to Yorubas that have had more than their fair share. A Yoruba man succeeding Buhari will mean they've now ruled more than anyone else, including the Fulani.

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Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by IamAtikulate: 2:18pm On Jan 17, 2021
Oracleforce:



Since your region didn't support baba Buhari, ...Hausa-Fulani can never support your region.

Your people are noisemakers and fugitive like Nnamdi COWnu, .....so, 2023, your noise-making continue...
Is this Yoruba people campaign strategy for the presidential ticket?
Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by PHijo(m): 2:18pm On Jan 17, 2021
From the look of things a Northerner will take over from Buhari in 2023.

Tinubu and Amaechi destroyed any possibility for "Southern unity " in 2014. Any united front in the South would take time to grow.


Nothing will convince me to vote Tinubu or his political structure.

The North would be VERY foolish to ignore the opportunity!
Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by BSdetector: 2:38pm On Jan 17, 2021
cktheluckyman:

Well the Obasanjo presidency is the only one yorubas will have in the next century,better live with it

No doesn't change anything. Last time I checked the igbos have been living without it for half a century and it'd most likely remain that way.
Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by BSdetector: 2:43pm On Jan 17, 2021
BastardWike:


These people are terrible in nature. Even Sanusi Lamido had to keep diplomacy aside to say it openly that they're evil and chameleonic in nature.

At a time when well meaning Hausa and Fulani people are coming out to call Buhari to order, these people from the waste kept telling him he was the best thing to happen to Nigeria, not because they truly like him but because they are hoping to exploit him.

They think they're smart but in reality, they can't see beyond their noses. The North will rather support a candidate from SE or even SS than SW based on the fact that supporting SW, especially a character like Tinubu or anyone close to him will mean enthroning them as the new power block. Also, it doesn't make sense to support power rotation only to hand power to Yorubas that have had more than their fair share. A Yoruba man succeeding Buhari will mean they've now ruled more than anyone else, including the Fulani.

You guys are really pathetic grin grin lamido played a role in removing Jonathan and won't touch an Igbo presidential candidate with a long stick... Yoruba's are evil but the herdsmen raping your mothers and sisters in the village are fulani.... you're a pathetic fool who will die of misplaced yoruba hate. Stinking flatin0
Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by BastardWike: 2:53pm On Jan 17, 2021
BSdetector:


[s]You guys are really pathetic grin grin lamido played a role in removing Jonathan and won't touch an Igbo presidential candidate with a long stick... Yoruba's are evil but the herdsmen raping your mothers and sisters in the village are fulani.... you're a pathetic fool who will die of misplaced yoruba hate. Stinking flatin0[/s]

Abobakus of Africa are infamous for their ugliness, dirtiness, treachery, envy, selfishness and cowardice.

Herdsmen are already decimating them in their own land. Walking dead people.
Re: Zulum: Why Power Should Shift To South In 2023 by PHijo(m): 3:12pm On Jan 17, 2021
BSdetector:


You guys are really pathetic grin grin lamido played a role in removing Jonathan and won't touch an Igbo presidential candidate with a long stick... Yoruba's are evil but the herdsmen raping your mothers and sisters in the village are fulani.... you're a pathetic fool who will die of misplaced yoruba hate. Stinking flatin0

Did Lamido Sanusi say he would contest?
I believe if he does, they will probably tackle him.

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