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Islam for Muslims / Re: What Is Ashura And What Led To The Tragedy Of Karbala? by Zhulfiqar1: 7:54pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
THE PROPHET (s) DID NOT ONLY CRY FOR IMAM HUSSAIN (as),-EVEN WHEN IMAM HUSSAIN (as) WAS YOUNG-BUT HE WAILED FOR IMAM HUSSAIN (as) FIFTY YEARS BEFORE KARBALA, EVERYTIME JIBRIL (as) REMIND HIM OF HIS MARTYRDOM.THE PROPHET (s) ALSO HONORED THE SOIL ON WHICH IMAM HUSSAIN (as) WOULD BE MARTYRED!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFTcmZ2fKS0 |
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Is Ashura And What Led To The Tragedy Of Karbala? by Zhulfiqar1: 8:25pm On Nov 16, 2013 |
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Is Ashura And What Led To The Tragedy Of Karbala? by Zhulfiqar1: 7:55pm On Nov 14, 2013 |
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Is Ashura And What Led To The Tragedy Of Karbala? by Zhulfiqar1: 10:54pm On Nov 13, 2013 |
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Is Ashura And What Led To The Tragedy Of Karbala? by Zhulfiqar1: 7:21pm On Nov 12, 2013 |
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Is Ashura And What Led To The Tragedy Of Karbala? by Zhulfiqar1: 9:42pm On Nov 11, 2013 |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Shia Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Permitting The Drinking Of Water During FASTING by Zhulfiqar1: 12:16pm On Nov 11, 2013 |
BetaThings: please what is the difference. i'd like to know because I am open to learning everyday.and I do not claim perfection. it is a serious thing when you say something is "pagan" and the Prophet (s) is recorded to have done it.it is not a simple matter of prohibition.it is either hitting oneself in grief is pagan or it is allowed in islam.then explain to us what the pagans of jahiliyyah used to do that made the Prophet (s) utter the statement he made.for a hint,they used to insult Allah (swt) in wailing when they grief. it is the same thing about "grave worship".if you look at the graves of our Imams,they are level to the ground.wahhabis think the "dhareeh" (outter fencing protecting the graves) are structures on the grave we worship.truth is the graves within the outter protecting structure are level as the Prophet (s) ordered.and the graves of the Christians and jews used to be themselves made in the form of housing which the Prophet (s) prohibited.you need to not be superficial. COMPARE:
so if Aisha who you implicitly accused of "paganism" can still qualify for a role model,why do you have problem with the Shia? cant they also "err" going by your argument? someone that does pagan acts is no role model for a muslim. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Shia Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Permitting The Drinking Of Water During FASTING by Zhulfiqar1: 11:49am On Nov 11, 2013 |
BetaThings: you should stop contradicting yourself. tell us what the hadith about jahiliyyah means.it doesn't make sense that the Prophet (s) would forbid something that he is recorded in the very bukhari to have done. NB: As for Aisha I cited her because she is your role model and not mine.it is also a great progress that you implicitly accused her of following "jahiliyyah paganism". |
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Is Ashura And What Led To The Tragedy Of Karbala? by Zhulfiqar1: 11:45am On Nov 11, 2013 |
BetaThings: ok,since you now see that the vast majority of Shia and Shia ulama do not tolerate tatbeer,would you now join us to commemorate Ashura? taking the following into account: -crying for Imam Hussain (as) is sunnah -hitting oneself in grief is sunnah (Aisha,Sarah and Prophet Muhammad are recorded to have done that) -love for the Ahlul-Bayt (as) is an injunction in the Quran and that love should not only stay on our lips -observing Ashura is emphasized in the hadiths -on Ashura,it is also more opportunity to learn more things in Islam and recite the Quran |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Shia Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Permitting The Drinking Of Water During FASTING by Zhulfiqar1: 11:16am On Nov 11, 2013 |
BetaThings: there is a big difference between hitting your chest or thigh as a sign of grief,and cutting yourself inflicting injury which is forbidden. you are mixing things up.
please do.expose yourself. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Is Ashura And What Led To The Tragedy Of Karbala? by Zhulfiqar1: 11:07am On Nov 11, 2013 |
BetaThings: At least the Supreme Leader of Iran got it right on this occasion why do you insist on mocking yourself with half or no knowledge? the majority of Shia scholars forbid tatbeer (cutting one's self),and the very post you are using to make a clown out of yourself was posted here on nairaland by a Shia to explain that the act is not religiously permitted by the vast majority of our scholars.there are cultural practices which people have been attracted to because they express sad emotions to fit the occasion.however these practices are not religiously sound.the majority of the Shia don't go about cutting themselves.and because there are some lay people who do such acts,that is no justification to tell us to stop holding the memory of Imam Hussain (as) in high esteem,and commemorating the martyrdom of Imam Hussain (as) according to the sunnah of the Prophet (s).Wahhabis/salafists want people to believe they oppose Ashura because of people cut themselves.while in fact whether people cut themselves or not,they just want to erase the memory of the Ahlul-Bayt (as) and the legacy of Imam Hussain (as). the truth is you can use all tricks and tactics,but we will not stop remembering Imam Hussain (as).if it bothers you, fly into another planet. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Is Ashura And What Led To The Tragedy Of Karbala? by Zhulfiqar1: 11:04am On Nov 11, 2013 |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Shia Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Permitting The Drinking Of Water During FASTING by Zhulfiqar1: 8:41am On Nov 11, 2013 |
@BetaThing the pile of rubbish you post is so clear that you on your own cannot think through and separate truth from falsehood.keep depending on lies and nonsense of Wahhabi propagandists on youtube and you'd be blind forever and full of hate that others would view you as a non-living creature that does not think!!! since religion to you is a competitive game with the Shia,i am glad to inform you that I have roped you and beaten you again severely.i brought out evidence showing your almighty Aisha in hadith and Lady Sarah (as) in the Quran hitting themselves to express grief.so your point became we do not follow Aisha but only the examples of the Prophet (sa), and we do not follow Sarah because she follows a previous shariah.ok here is the Prophet (s) in your almighty "Sahih" Bukhari hitting himself: Narrated ‘Ali bin Abi Talib: That Allah’s Apostle came to him and Fatima the daughter of Allah’s Apostle at their house at night and said, “Won’t you pray?” ‘Ali replied, “O Allah’s Apostle! Our souls are in the Hands of Allah and when he wants us to get up, He makes us get up.” When ‘Ali said that to him, Allah’s Apostle left without saying anything to him. While the Prophet was leaving, ‘Ali heard him striking his thigh (with his hand) and saying, “But man is quarrelsome more than anything else.” (18.54) Ibn Hajr Asqalani-the Nasibi scholar- in the commentary of this tradition in Fatah al Bari, Volume 3 page 11 writes: قوله يضرب فخذه فيه جواز ضرب الفخذ عند التأسف “His statement ‘striking his thigh’ shows the permission of striking the thigh to express the grief” "Sunnah" is what the Prophet (s) did.therefore I put it unto you that hitting oneself to express grief is a Sunnah because the Prophet (s) did just that.or do you want to tell me the Prophet (s) is also following "paganism" (astaghfirullah)? you Wahhabis/salafists are like Iblis. Allah (swt) told iblis to bow down to Adam (as),iblis replied that Adam (as) is a created creature from clay and he is better than Adam (as).perhaps iblis just like Wahhabis/salafists were following "pure tawheed".now tell us what you think about the Prophet (s) hitting himself. now that we are done with the topic,and even the father of salafism ibn taymiyyah has a similar fatwa permitting drinking water during fast in special circumstances,the Wahhabi wannabes want to derail the thread because they feel bitter and beaten. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Shia Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Permitting The Drinking Of Water During FASTING by Zhulfiqar1: 10:55pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
Sheykul Islam: "you can drink water if the you cannot withstand such fasting". I hope ibn taymiyyah's students are reading this thread amazing! how ignorant can people get because of blind hatred? so even the founder of salafism has the same ruling?!!! |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Shia Ayatollah Issues Fatwa Permitting The Drinking Of Water During FASTING by Zhulfiqar1: 10:52pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
BetaThings: A lot of things done by Shia have pagan background and they are not original people have come to realize the truth on the topic in spite that the op opened this thread to vilify the Shia.so in order to continue the nonsense,you want to derail the thread. why did you not copy all that was said in that thread? why only pick out few verses of the bible to accuse Muslims of being "pagan"? what does mourning have to do in this thread? there is no problem because I will still catch you and beat you with your point.that is evidence that Wahhabis/salafists have no aqeedah. so when Aisha is reported to have beaten herself, she was doing acts of "pagan background", right? or is it only "pagan" if the Shia does it? please enlighten us : al Tabari in History Volume 9 page 183 (English translation by Ismail Poonawala): Abbas narrates: “I heard Ayesha saying “The Messenger of God died on my bosom during my turn, I did not wrong anyone in regard to him. It was because of my ignorance and youthfulness that the Messenger of God died while he was in my lap. Then I laid his head on a pillow and got up beating my chest and slapping my face along with the women”. and of course,there is also acts of "pagan background" found in the Holy Quran (astaghfirullah),according to the words of Mr.Wahhabi who does not know the Quran and does not know Islam but only sentiments: “Then came forward his wife in grief, she smote her face and said (what! I) An old barren woman?” Quran 51:29 |
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Is Ashura And What Led To The Tragedy Of Karbala? by Zhulfiqar1: 10:23pm On Nov 10, 2013 |
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Is Ashura And What Led To The Tragedy Of Karbala? by Zhulfiqar1: 10:07pm On Nov 09, 2013 |
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Is Ashura And What Led To The Tragedy Of Karbala? by Zhulfiqar1: 10:58pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Is Ashura And What Led To The Tragedy Of Karbala? by Zhulfiqar1: 10:58pm On Nov 08, 2013 |
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Is Ashura And What Led To The Tragedy Of Karbala? by Zhulfiqar1: 9:36am On Nov 08, 2013 |
Islam for Muslims / Re: American Muslims Attacked During Hajj by Zhulfiqar1: 5:01pm On Nov 07, 2013 |
BetaThings: but you justify killing Shia civilians.
how peaceful of a Wahhabi sympathizer.peaceful demonstrations against occupation give the impression that muslims are "militants",but all the bombings and beheadings done by the salafists/Wahhabis portray muslims in good light.that is your view anyways.you are free to take part or not.however whether you are right or wrong is not the issue here.the point is your contention that the Shia don't care about what affects muslims at large (in reference particularly to what affect Sunnis).therefore I pointed out the efforts done by Shia to support Sunni Palestinians.you described the effort as "militant".that is great if the Shia can turn into "militants" to support your sunni brothers.it defeats your argument that the Shia do not do anything.
the Shia were not against the bosnians or their struggle or even the memory in remembering sebrenica.the point was raised that since Wahhabis/salafists term everything under "shirk" and "bid'ah",why is the remembrance of the massacre of sebrenica not classified as "bid'ah" just as they classify the commemoration of the massacre and tragedy of Karbala? that was the entire point.but as usual you read more into every idea and then project your interpretation to give an idea of your own as the reality.that is how salafism/wahhabism operates especially when they classify other muslims as "mushrikeen".
you need to search more.i wont comment further because the case of Wahhabis/salafists is different.
we are not ashamed at all that we believe what we hold is the truth.we have ideological differences.but is that reason to start killing ourselves like Wahhabis/salafists do? having differences and disagreeing is one thing,and the case of killing and terror of Wahhabis/salafists is on another scale.
Makkah and Medina belong to all Muslims.they are not the property of aal-Saud.if pilgrims burst into an emotional chant and start to carryout a show in solidarity with muslims,your pseudo-fatwa about validation or nullification of hajj only applies on you.hajj itself is a huge demonstration.take an example with the stoning of satan.
no we don't want to be united with them since we are "polytheists/idolaters" in their evil eyes.
you are still treading the path of an old fashion Wahhabi lie,that even Wahhabi preachers presently feel shy to use in this age and time.this lie has been trashed here on nairaland and it was made clear that not one hadith exist to validate the Abdullah ibn saba claim/myth : https://www.nairaland.com/1107764/story-sunni-imam-shia-ayatollah/4#13246368 however if following the commands of the Prophet (sa) in Ghadir Khumm and loving the Ahlul-Bayt (as) and believing in the 12 holy Imams (as) makes one a "jew" then I am proud to be a "jew". but don't forget to consult google on the jewish origin of the al-saud clan in wahhabistan. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Is Ashura And What Led To The Tragedy Of Karbala? by Zhulfiqar1: 9:42am On Nov 07, 2013 |
Islam for Muslims / Re: What Is Ashura And What Led To The Tragedy Of Karbala? by Zhulfiqar1: 9:42am On Nov 07, 2013 |
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Islam for Muslims / Re: How True Are Narrations Of Sahih Bukhari And Muslim? by Zhulfiqar1: 12:21pm On Nov 06, 2013 |
vedaxcool: |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Ashura:Commemorating The Martyrdom Of Imam Hussain (as) in the Month of Muharram by Zhulfiqar1: 11:39pm On Nov 05, 2013 |
Imam Sajjad (A.S) said: "Surely, I have never brought to mind the martyrdom of the children of Fatimah (A.S.) except that I have been choked with tears due to it". Bihar al‑Anwar vol. 46, pg. 109. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: How True Are Narrations Of Sahih Bukhari And Muslim? by Zhulfiqar1: 11:36pm On Nov 05, 2013 |
@ brother/sister al-Baqir, Ameen.may Allah (swt) reward us on the martyrdom commemoration of Imam Abi Abdillah al-Hussain (as),and condolences to our great maraji and the Imam of the time (ajtfs) and every lover of the Ahlul-Bayt (as) of our beloved Prophet,Muhammad (s). 1 Like |
Islam for Muslims / Re: How True Are Narrations Of Sahih Bukhari And Muslim? by Zhulfiqar1: 8:50pm On Nov 05, 2013 |
vedaxcool: Ignorance is not good.the only thing left unanswered in Betathing's post is his propaganda video on Sayyid Murtaza Qazwini. The hadith Sayyid Qazwini was quoting that the verse: "God favored Adam,the family of Noah,the family of Ibrahim and the family of Imran over mankind",also included "family of Muhammad",is a hadith that is found (also) in Sunni books.this hadith has been refuted by the great Shia alim,Ayatollah Abu'l Kassim al-Khu'i,and proven to be weak.furthermore,the video Betathing presented of Sayyid Qazwini is doctored.Sayyid Qazwini does not believe the Quranic text has been distorted,but was merely quoting what is found in some Sunni reports.instead of showing us 1minute 28 seconds of his lecture,those Sunni (definitely wahhabi/salafist sunnis) should have provided the full lecture let us hear the statement in context. I will present this 10 minute video to get more refutations to such claims by Salafist pseudo-scholar,Usthman al-Khamees: http://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&persist_app=1&v=xXPA5bmKMMc The real problem is in the Sunni "sahih" books because you have reports from people like Aisha,Umar and Abdullah Ibn Masood-upon whose shoulders the foundations of the Sunni sect lies-that the Holy Quran has suffered tahreef.these figures were among the Sahaba Sunnis do hold in high honor. As for us,the words of the 12 holy Imams (as) of Prophet Muhammad's (s) Ahlul-Bayt (as) are decisive over whatever anyone says.Imam Ja'far as-Sadeq (as) said: "'Test the various reports by the Book of God; whatever agrees with it take it,whatever disagrees with it reject it."'Take what is agreed upon (by scholars). Certainly the universally accepted should not be doubted.'" The above is found in al-Kafi by al-Kulayni.al-Kulayni was a Shia hadith recorder/compiler (just like Bukhari and Muslim for Sunnis),and he considers the Quran (as per the saying of Imam Sadeq) to be the yardstick for separating truth from falsehood. This is what we read in the Holy Quran: “and most surely ” (41:41) it is a Mighty Book: (42) Falsehood shall not come to it from before it nor from behind it; a revelation from the Wise, the Praised One”, and “(15:9) Surely We have revealed the Reminder and We will most surely be its guardian”. What the classical Shia scholars of the highest prominence have said: The completeness of Quran is so indisputable among Shia that the greatest scholar of Shia in Hadith, Abu Jafar Muhammad Ibn Ali Ibn al-Husain Ibn Babwayh, known as "Shaykh Saduq" (309/919-381/991), wrote: "Our belief is that the Quran which Allah revealed to His Prophet Muhammad is (the same as) the one between the two covers (daffatayn).And it is the one which is in the hands of the people, and is not greater in extent than that. The number of surahs as generally accepted is one hundred and fourteen ...And he, who asserts that we say that it is greater in extent than that, is a liar." Shi'i reference: Shi'ite Creed (al-I'tiqadat al-Imamiyyah), by Shaykh Saduq, English version, p77. 1- It should be noted that Shaykh Saduq is the greatest scholar of Hadith among the Imami Shia and was given the name of Shaykh al-Muhaddithin (i.e., the most eminent of the scholars of Hadith). And since he wrote the above in a book with the name of "The beliefs of the Imami Shia," it is quite impossible that there could be any authentic Hadith in contrary to it. It is noteworthy that Shaykh Saduq was one of the earliest Shia scholars. 2- Another prominent Shia scholar is Allama Muhammad Ridha Mudhaffar who wrote in his Shia Creed book that: "We believe that the Holy Quran is revealed by Allah through the Holy Prophet of Islam dealing with every thing which is necessary for the guidance of mankind. It is an everlasting miracle of the Holy Prophet the like of which can not be produced by human mind. It excels in its eloquence, clarity, truth and knowledge. This Divine Book has not been tampered with by any one. This Holy Book which we recite today is the same Holy Quran which was revealed to the Holy Prophet. Any one who ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^ claims it to be otherwise is an evil-doer, a mere sophist, or else he is sadly mistaken. All of those who have this line of thinking have gone astray as Allah in Quran said: "Falsehood can not reach the Quran from any direction (41:42)" - Shi'i reference: The Beliefs of Shi'ite School, by Muhammad Ridha Mudhaffar, English version, pp 50-51 3-Sayyid al-Murtadha, another prominent Shi'ite Scholar said: "... our certainty of the completeness of the Quran is like our certainty of the existence of countries or major events that are self evident. Motives and reasons for recording and guarding the Holy Quran are numerous. Because the Quran is a miracle of the Prophethood and the source of Islamic Knowledge and religious rule, their concern with the Quran made the Muslim Scholars highly efficient concerning grammar, its reading, and its verses." 4-With this various concern by the most eminent Shia scholars, there is no possibility that the Quran was added or deleted in some parts. 5-Besides what Allah mentioned in Quran about its protection, we can use our logic to derive the same result. Allah sent his last Messenger to show people (to the end of the time) His Right Path. Therefore if Allah does not preserve His message, He would be contradicting His own aim. Obviously, such negligence is evil according to reason. Thus, in essence, Allah preserves His message as He preserved Moses in the house of His Enemy,Pharaoh. Conclusion: Shia Muslims collectively believe that the Qur'an we have is free from all textual distortions. It's the same Qur'an God revealed upon Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him and his descendants). Yes, distortion was made in the arrangement of the verses as we all know that Q. 96 is the first chapter of Qur'an revealed and Q. 5:3 is the last verse revealed. Fabricated interpretation of Qur'an is also a kind of distortion but the letters in Qur'an are indeed the word of God. See this: http://www.shiapen.com/comprehensive/tahreef/shia-scholars-completeness-quran.html |
Islam for Muslims / Re: How True Are Narrations Of Sahih Bukhari And Muslim? by Zhulfiqar1: 3:40pm On Nov 05, 2013 |
vedaxcool: Yes for once i do agree with you.al-Baqir has bitten more than he can chew because he is dealing with people who justify and feel good about their own beliefs by denying beliefs of others through unfounded claims and wet-dreams. Betathing is talking about taqiyyah,yet Taqiyyah is found in the Quran. He is talking about Shia having belief that the Quran have been altered/distorted (tahreef),yet the very Sunni books he is defending (like bukhari and muslim) contain hadiths that state the Quran has been altered.yet because he is programmed to believe it is only the Shia that hold such belief,he disregards the skeletons in his own cupboard.even when the Shia in every home have the same Quran (even ones printed in majority Sunni countries) and the Shia deny tahreef,the likes of Betathing would insist the Shia believe in tahreef.ask him for proof,he would quote hadiths from Shia books that the Shia themselves reject.and ironically when the Shia bring hadiths from his "sahih" about Aisha narrating that a verse of the Quran,known as the "Verse of Stoning",was allegedly lost when a goat chewed it,he would pretend ignorance.our al-kafi,biharul-anwar,wasael al-shia,etc are not tagged by the Shia with the "sahih" label as sunnis have their hadith books.the Shia insist that only the Holy Quran is "sahih".when you tag a book as "sahih" (authentic/unadulterated),you must accept everything in it.based on that and since hadiths supporting tahreef are found in bukhari and muslim,it is 100% honest to say sunnis believe in tahreef.he will still disagree,but wants us to believe it is the Shia misusing taqiyyah and not his likes.amazing nonsense! Do you believe your books are "sahih" or not? Do you believe in tahreef or not? Its either your books are not "sahih" as the OP has been preaching,or if you say they are then you believe in tahreef because there are reports therein supporting tahreef.choose! |
Islam for Muslims / Re: American Muslims Attacked During Hajj by Zhulfiqar1: 8:46pm On Nov 04, 2013 |
BetaThings: firstly do people who protest against the occupation of Palestine deserve to be killed collectively? it is Shia and Persian Iran (after the Islamic revolution in 1979) under the leadership of Ayatollah Khomeini that declared with a binding fatwa that the last day of the holy month of Ramadhan be observed as "al-Quds Day" (Jerusalem Day). during the conflict in former Yugoslavia, the Iranian revolutionary guards and their ally Hezbollah (both Shia Muslims) sent aid and even fighters to help the Sunni Muslim Bosnians in the face of the massacres the serbs committed against innocent civilians.do your research well and google will help you out. now why did the Iranians/Shia choose the climax of the hajj in 1987 to protest the Zionist occupation of palestine? here are some points one can consider: 1.) The hajj is a show of muslim unity where all muslims can collectively make their voice heard on the occupation of Palestine 2.) the hajj during which the symbolic stoning of satan takes place teach the muslims to resist forces of evil and oppression.the hajj is a symbolic place to revive the teachings against shirk and the stance of the Prophet (s) during the occupation of the pagan arabs of the holy Ka'ba.today similarly the al-Aqsa is under a similar occupation. 3.) during the hajj,the masjidul-haram (the first holiest mosque) is visited while the masjidul-aqsa (the second holiest mosque) is under occupation.from the masjidul-haram a message was been sent in solidarity with al-Aqsa. of course that show of unity,strength and message did not please the Saudi Wahhabis against their Zionist allies,and they decided to spill muslim blood to silence muslim unity;mind you this was no Shia-Sunni issue.yet you deny all these facts and insist to labeling the Iranians as the "cousins of the jews".how did you conclude that? that is even so false because it is the arabs who are really "cousins of the jews" (Ismaeel and Ishaq-(as)-being brothers) and the Iranians are non-arabs.please let us try to put emotions and sentiments aside and for once think what is right and in the interest of muslims and islam and what is not,and who is following what and for what reason.let us be objective. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: American Muslims Attacked During Hajj by Zhulfiqar1: 3:47am On Nov 04, 2013 |
PRESS RELEASE: American Shia Attacked in Hajj Submitted by admin on Sat, 10/19/2013 - 20:00 Saturday, October 19, 2013 WASHINGTON D.C. – This week, a large group of Salafis attacked a group of American Shia Muslims performing Hajj. The incident took place in Mina, during late hours of the evening. The Americans arrived at the tent, only to be immediately accosted by a group of men demanding to know if they were American. When the group responded in the affirmative, the men asked if they were Shia, and then immediately attacked after hearing the response. During the attack, the men shouted ““Our Hajj will be complete once we have killed you, ripped out your hearts and eaten them” and “We’re going to do Karbala all over again.” They also shouted other vulgarities towards Shia women. Details of the attack can be in various news media: "The Americans fled the tent area, which the Saudi government had specifically designated for American and European pilgrims. During the escape, many of the group, almost entirely U.S. citizens and mostly hailing from Dearborn, Michigan suffered bruises (in one case, due to an attempted strangulation), concussions, broken bones, and black eyes." The Universal Muslim Association of America condemns this attack, and calls on the United States Embassy in Saudi Arabia, as well as the State Department, to take immediate and swift action to punish those responsible and prevent future such incidents. Read more on the incident, click here. http://www.umaamerica.net/content/press-release-american-shia-attacked-hajj |
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