₦airaland Forum

nopuqeater:
no one says there are no bad muslims.

no one says there are no gays who say they are muslims.

saudi to every muslim is a muslim state because of the events that happened in the precincts of Makka and Madina. We have two holy places in that place saudi arabia. i personally dislike the name "Saudi" from the house of saud.

is what you are intending to say with this thread is that there are homosexuals in the community of Muslims or what are you really driving at?

we know that there are homosexuals. males and females of them. there are drunks, interest consumers, sexual deviants, rebellious muslims who say they salah is not even necessary, when it is the next thing after believing in One God and accepting Muhammad (AS) as the last Messenger and end of Prophethood.

we know all about the big sins and the little sins. we pray that all these people, turn to their Lord in repentance as they suddenly realize that what they are doing are not from Islam. Allah, under Prophet Lut (AS) destroyed the people of his community because of homosexual lifestyle. We in Islam also pray that you turn away from idolatry of triune godship.

did you spend a day in the dormitory when you are in high school? and you turn out at the end to be a person who can lambast homosexuals, since most females in dormitory knowingly or ignorantly play the homosexual game.

vedaxcool:
"In Saudi, it's hard to be straight when you're young. The women are shut away so everyone has gay sex. But they only want to have intimacy with boys – 15- to 21-year-olds. I'm 27, so I'm too old now. I need to find real gays, so this is the best place. All Arab gays want to live in Dubai."

This was the claim you made that made me ask you the question how will any reasonable person want us to believe that everyone in saudi has gay sex? that claim highly exaggerated and hardly in tune with common sense, and then you gave us the following as the reasons
commonsense dear
In prisons men tun gay because there are no women
In Muslim countries where the women are hidden,they have lesbian affairs,the men sleep with fellow men
In monasteries,priests sleep with other men


Hence that is where you reasoning can be questioned and extent of exaggeration ( Every one in saudi has Gay sex) is not only overexaggerated but unrealistic because we can conclue fromyour thinking that in Iran everyone is agay since Muslim women are "hidden", but we can also conclude that since Th world is spherical and the moon is spherical, then the moon is a planet?? no it is not, so this is how your claims and the article claims are over the top.

The last place one would expect to find homosexuals is in the Middle East. The majority of the countries in this region are Islamic States and, irrespective of whether they are Sunni or Shiite nations, homosexuality is universally condemned as being contrary to the Creation of Allah. The punishment for the offense of homosexuality in many nations in the Middle East, regardless of whether the Sharia Law is implemented in the country or not, is often the death penalty.

Despite the risk of death, homosexuals are flooding out of the ‘closet’ and into the streets. [b]In Kuwait specifically, you can often see gangs of homosexuals walking together. They are easy to spot. The dress code for male homosexuals in Kuwait is tight clothing, shaped eyebrows, white foundation with powder and a little lipstick. For females, they dress up like males with short spiky hair, studs and chain[/b]s. Islamic MPs in Kuwait have been calling for the formation of a special religious police unit to uphold morals in the country. But so far this request has fallen on deaf ears. Homosexuality is just one of the problems the MPs want to be tackled in Kuwait. Other problems include public lewdness and indecent behavior by young heterosexuals.

Kuwait is not the only country dealing with unprecedented homosexuality within its borders. Lebanon also reportedly is grappling with homosexuals exercising their perceived rights. However, in Lebanon homosexuals enjoy more freedom than anywhere else in the Middle East. Lebanon has gay bars and nightclubs as well as the first association for gay people in the Middle East, which is called the ‘Helem Foundation’. It was founded in 2004 and it’s mission, according to the director Georges Azzi, is to promote gay rights in Lebanon and to help the Ministry of Health support AIDS awareness in the country.

[size=24pt]Perhaps the country where homosexuals are really most prominent is in Saudi Arabia,[/size] a country where homosexuality is punishable by flogging, life imprisonment or even beheading. Homosexuals in the region are continuously becoming bolder in promoting their lifestyle choices in public. While there are not specific venues for homosexuals to congregate in, there are specific places where homosexuals meet up. There are certain malls and grocery stores that gays utilize for meeting each other. And there is supposedly a street in Jeddah where prospective ‘customers’ can cruise and pick-up homosexual love-peddlers. In ever-emboldened fearlessness, there have even been attempts at gay marriages. In 2004, the Saudi police raided a gay wedding party in which two Chadian men were about to marry in the city of Medina. [i]And in 2005, 110 men were arrested at another gay wedding party in which 30 were later convicted.

Homosexuality is set to rise in the Middle East in the coming years and there seems to be nothing governments can do about it with homosexuals continuously exerting their presence in the community. The effect on society is sure to be felt with the family unit consisting of a mother, father and their offspring being challenged. The risk of homosexuality in society includes increased spread of sexually transmitted diseases and decreased growth of populations in that same-sexed couples cannot naturally bear children.

Mohamed attributed the rise of homosexuality in Iraq to the growing conservatism in society which makes mingling between sexes increasingly difficult.

Oba234:
Honestly, tribalism aside, in truth,  I really didn't see what she wrote. I was busy doing something else. I don't know what you guys are talking about.  Maybe it's my computer, but I don't see anything from her except for those [b]she previously wrote on my lapto[/b]p

EzeUche22:
Oba you are such a cry baby. It is not even worth it. Mehn grow some balls you little girl!

Oba234:
please, bring it on, damn roaches. always found everywhere they are not wanted. Where is my damn Raid?

Oba234:
please o, don't make me start posting pictures and pictures of the genocide that occur in Igbo land because of you arrogance. I don't want to get that petty. was the war really worth it? was it worth it loosing millions of your people died that could have been alive today and all that talk, and Igbos are still not represented politically.  Please allow me to say Zap off.

Oba234:
oh please shut your Zap.i.n.g mouth. are your silly Ibo brothers not the one bragging like their Poo don't stink. If you dish it out, make you can take it. so please throw up however much you want.

Oba234:
yawn, *crickets* where did you get youur conclusion of slave to the Hausa from? I didn't know that allowing the Hausa to the dirty work means being a slave? I guess being smart and refusing to die because of the stupidity of that  Ojukwu means Slavery?. A

Oba234:
Foolish Yoruba or you meant to say Foolish Igbos? That is yall Zap.I.N.G problem.  Yorubas people are smart o. Instead of using war to achieve our means, we use political power to achieve our means. We are peaceful people, but you can't run us over. Igbo people swear they are the baddest and toughest group yet still at the bottom of the barrel. Like I said, how many years has it been since we had an Ibo president? Why fight our battles when Hausa man can fight it for us? Abeg, we want our people to live long not be killed by hunger and genocide like your people were. It's called being smart. Maybe Ibo people can learn a thing or do, don't fight war that you know you can't win, and then stay bitter about it 50 yrs later

EzeUche22:

EzeUche22:
If the Fulani want to buy Yorubaland from the Igbos I'll sell it to them for the right price.   If Nupe wants Yorubaland, I sell it to them for the right price. If Bini ppl want Yorubaland, I sell it to them for the right price.  

They are some parasites. They get mad when we buy their land, but they steal Eastern oil. Go figure. It is not our fault that they waste their money on those extravagant parties and go into debt and ask us Igbos to bail them out.

THE AMAKA:
and then you will come and fight their war for them, right?  
also tell them to stop feeding off of land that is not theirs.
okay?  
AND WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU?

Oba234:
oh please SHUT THE Zap up. Who cares if you secede. Abeg go, let the Fulani man spank that A.S.S again. They did it before killing millions of you guys and they will spank that A.S.S again. Useless Ibo. Stay in you Zap.I.N.G land and tell your people to get the Zap away from yoruba land.

vedaxcool:
"In Saudi, it's hard to be straight when you're young. The women are shut away so everyone has gay sex. But they only want to have intimacy with boys – 15- to 21-year-olds. I'm 27, so I'm too old now. I need to find real gays, so this is the best place. All Arab gays want to live in Dubai."

A question any reasonable mind should ask is how does he know that everyone has become gay, is it a survey or what? he is just making an exaggerated claim cause of his experience, unless a comprehensive survey is done it will be unrealistic to make claims of such based on a persons personal experience, I only wonder the OP claim that it is hidden by whom, even in Nigeria it will be difficult to know what is prevailing, interesting thing to not it no more an epidemic in Christendom but an acceptable behavior that is highly respected and protected, reading the article one will note that the authorities in Dubia are generally laxer about morals, unlike other countries Arab countries in the region, and again Dubai has a greater part of it's population from foreign countries(including Europe) who bring all sort of deviant behaviors, now like I said only a comprehensive survey can bring out the true picture

There is one group in Dubai for whom the rhetoric of sudden freedom and liberation rings true – but it is the very group the government wanted to liberate least: gays.

Beneath a famous international hotel, I clamber down into possibly the only gay club on the Saudi Arabian peninsula. I find a United Nations of tank-tops and bulging biceps, dancing to Kylie, dropping ecstasy, and partying like it's Soho. "Dubai is the best place in the Muslim world for gays!" a 25-year old Emirati with spiked hair says, his arms wrapped around his 31-year old "husband". "We are alive. We can meet. That is more than most Arab gays."

It is illegal to be gay in Dubai, and punishable by 10 years in prison. But the locations of the latest unofficial gay clubs circulate online, and men flock there, seemingly unafraid of the police. "They might bust the club, but they will just disperse us," one of them says. "The police have other things to do."

In every large city, gay people find a way to find each other – but Dubai has become the clearing-house for the region's homosexuals, a place where they can live in relative safety. Saleh, a lean private in the Saudi Arabian army, has come here for the Coldplay concert, and tells me Dubai is "great" for gays: "In Saudi, it's hard to be straight when you're young. The women are shut away [size=24pt]so everyone has gay sex.[/size] But they only want to have sex with boys – 15- to 21-year-olds. I'm 27, so I'm too old now. I need to find real gays, so this is the best place. All Arab gays want to live in Dubai."

With that, Saleh dances off across the dancefloor, towards a Dutch guy with big biceps and a big smile.

mutter:
Thanks Chaircover. That is exactly how it works out. When you leave the first marriage, the story goes on .
Even this issue of leave him before he infects you wit HIV is not that simple.
If you leave the man it only makes sense if you either abstain from sex or take adequate measures like testing with the new partner before going into a relationship and having the guarantee that the new partner is being faithf[/b]ul.
Now honestly how any women stick to that?

jennykadry:
Thank you. Stay with a man that for the rest of my life I wouldnt trust?

Who is encouraging this kind of unhealthy relationship all in the name of staying married?