tunnytox:

I understand it must be difficult for someone with low IQ like yours to understand the words of intelligent people. I believe many other readers here can tell who is dull between me and you.

REALKINGSON: with all due respect sir,i think you're DULL'ER'.no offense meant

Sisi_Kill: Do people really think that having money means you grew up in abundance? I guess you haven't read about the Rockefellers and their upbringing. Despite the fact that their Daddy was one of the richest man in the world. . .the children were on a strict pocket allowance whachumacallit.

They wore hand me downs, didn't travel the world in private jets and cruise the streets with the latest cars. They had to make account of how they spent their money (each child kept a journal of how much they spent on what). In short, they didn't have the little extras we expect people with their kinda money to have.

So having money does not necessarily mean being wealthy. . .let's just get that outta the way. Anyone who doesn't have bits for brains knows what Bakare is talking about, I mean alls you gotta do is look at Patience's wobia behavior.

Skii:

LOL...which goal post are you defending naa

Sisi_Kill:

Lmao! I got the Pastor's back any day.

The reason I posted that is because people are making it about MONEY....oh because Jonathan was POOR, so only RICH people can rule and I am saying it is not about MONEY.

I was watching a documentary on King Edward VII and how he went haywire when he finally left for college. One would think being a Prince, he would have had everything but that was not the case. He didn't grow up in abundance so when he finally got in a position where he made the calls now. . .he went crazy, slept with more women than were born, spent like mad, eat crazily, drank insanely, his reign was mired by his wobia behavior. He wasn't taken seriously in parliament because they didn't think he knew anything. "King Oju ori ola ri"

So again, it has nothing to do with MONEY, people who grew up in abundundace aren't likely to act like awe struck kids when they are around it.

Do I get my goal kicking shoes (no pun intended) back?

LMAO *fallsdownfromchair*

What a remarkable sense of humour!!

REALKINGSON: with all due respect sir,i think you're DULL'ER'.no offense meant

edicolove:

What is ridiculous about your post is that you speak like Bakare's statement came from a book he wrote. He was speaking to a church filled with all kinds of people. He wasn't speaking to a Lagos business school class. Do stop insulting our sensibilities with statement like "that is what he is talking about". If he needed an interpreter, am sure he can afford one since he is no longer in the demography of "low estate" like he used to be

tpapi: it seems u just came back recently fm europe

Sisi_Kill:

Sigh!

This is the reason why I didn't want to get drawn into this debate oh. Nigerians as a whole, we are not very good with figurative speaking, if it ain't literal. . .it just flies over our heads. We have no appreciation for subtlety, if they aren't slamming the point on our heads, we don't get it.(Choi! It used to irk me sooo badly when I watch 'em Nollywood movies and the characters are talking like this "I am going to go to his house to go and abuse him" and the next scene is the person going to the other person's house to go and abuse him . . .like wtf? Why don't you just do it, why do you gotta tell us??!! It wasn't until I got that if things aren't literally explained, laid out bare, busted wide open, stripped naked, most people don't get it that I stopped getting angry. . . but ya know what, that's the sotry for another day ).

My point (Yes, Yes I have one ) is that Pastor Bakare was speaking figuratively. . .and he is ABSO-FREAKING-LUTELY, right!! Besides, the last I checked members of his congregation are Nigerians who are worried about the state of the nation. What do ya expect him to talk about in times like this. . . the Story of Noah's Ark?

tunnytox:

Please go to the sexuality section where you specialised in, we're not talking about dirty pu.na.ni here ok?

A-ZeD:

That "such men" in his statement was refering to a particular person not the people in general.

REALKINGSON: hahaha.you're funny man.but seriously you have no conscience sir.[b]speaking lies in a public forum.[/b]i can assure you that the reasonable ones in that church must have called the man to order but you,i smh.i swear,u know the truth but you still have to lie on behalf of your employers to earn a living.i understand,e go beta.P.S I'M D ONE WHO CLICKED THE 'LIKE' BUTTON UNDER YOUR POST FOR MAKING ME LAUGH

agabaI23: Why are people trying to explain out Bakare's statement as if it was a bible passage? Was he speaking in parables?

I am one person who talk about mental poverty as the reason why our politicians loot the treasury. However, in this case, Bakare did not refer to mental poverty. He even (according to the article)buttressed his point by referring to GEJ's lack of shoes. People see the truth and tend to look away because it does not suit them. Not good!

Bakare was referring to physical poverty and wealth.

Sisi_Kill:

Sigh!

This is the reason why I didn't want to get drawn into this debate oh. Nigerians as a whole, we are not very good with figurative speaking, if it ain't literal. . .it just flies over our heads. We have no appreciation for subtlety, if they aren't slamming the point on our heads, we don't get it.(Choi! It used to irk me sooo badly when I watch 'em Nollywood movies and the characters are talking like this "I am going to go to his house to go and abuse him" and the next scene is the person going to the other person's house to go and abuse him . . .like wtf? Why don't you just do it, why do you gotta tell us??!! It wasn't until I got that if things aren't literally explained, laid out bare, busted wide open, stripped naked, most people don't get it that I stopped getting angry. . . but ya know what, that's a story for another day ).

My point (Yes, Yes I have one ) is that Pastor Bakare was speaking figuratively. . .and he is ABSO-FREAKING-LUTELY, right!! Besides, the last I checked members of his congregation are Nigerians (Don't don't stop being Nigerians when they enter the church ya know ) and they are worried about the state of the nation, their future, their children's future. What do ya expect him to talk about in times like this. . . the Story of Noah's Ark or Samson's long hair?

Sisi_Kill:

Sigh!

This is the reason why I didn't want to get drawn into this debate oh. Nigerians as a whole, we are not very good with figurative speaking, if it ain't literal. . .it just flies over our heads. We have no appreciation for subtlety, if they aren't slamming the point on our heads, we don't get it.(Choi! It used to irk me sooo badly when I watch 'em Nollywood movies and the characters are talking like this "I am going to go to his house to go and abuse him" and the next scene is the person going to the other person's house to go and abuse him . . .like wtf? Why don't you just do it, why do you gotta tell us??!! It wasn't until I got that if things aren't literally explained, laid out bare, busted wide open, stripped naked, most people don't get it that I stopped getting angry. . . but ya know what, that's a story for another day ).

My point (Yes, Yes I have one ) is that Pastor Bakare was speaking figuratively. . .and he is ABSO-FREAKING-LUTELY, right!! Besides, the last I checked members of his congregation are Nigerians (Don't don't stop being Nigerians when they enter the church ya know ) and they are worried about the state of the nation, their future, their children's future. What do ya expect him to talk about in times like this. . . the Story of Noah's Ark or Samson's long hair?

tunnytox:

I understand it must be difficult for someone with low IQ like yours to understand the words of intelligent people. I believe many other readers here can tell who is dull between me and you.

edicolove:

Being melodramatic in a public forum will not make you right. I am not a fan of Nollywood but the reason it hasn't improved much is because there are no Nigerians available to change it. All we have are arm chair critics like you and pastor Bakare. Talk is cheap they say and posting on NL is even cheaper. That being said, you have a right to agree with Bakare but that puts you in the elitist group who will not see the poor rise to greatness. The only question I have for you then is, when you seemingly "fought" for the poor in many of your precious posts, were you just a politically correct hypocrite or were you a schemer trying to use the poor to push an agenda like the typical Nigerian politician? Or maybe all of the above?

edicolove:

Being melodramatic in a public forum will not make you right. I am not a fan of Nollywood but the reason it hasn't improved much is because there are no Nigerians available to change it. All we have are arm chair critics like you and pastor Bakare. Talk is cheap they say and posting on NL is even cheaper. That being said, you have a right to agree with Bakare but that puts you in the elitist group who will not see the poor rise to greatness. The only question I have for you then is, when you seemingly "fought" for the poor in many of your precious posts, were you just a politically correct hypocrite or were you a schemer trying to use the poor to push an agenda like the typical Nigerian politician? Or maybe all of the above?

GBAM!!

Game Set Match!!

Shoot yourself in the foot baby

edicolove:

Being melodramatic in a public forum will not make you right. I am not a fan of Nollywood but the reason it hasn't improved much is because there are no Nigerians available to change it. All we have are arm chair critics like you and pastor Bakare. Talk is cheap they say and posting on NL is even cheaper. That being said, you have a right to agree with Bakare but that puts you in the elitist group who will not see the poor rise to greatness. The only question I have for you then is, when you seemingly "fought" for the poor in many of your precious posts, were you just a politically correct hypocrite or were you a schemer trying to use the poor to push an agenda like the typical Nigerian politician? Or maybe all of the above?

LFJ:
If Bakare is getting you angry like this on nairaland, I will suggest that you go to his church on Sunday and call him a liar to his face. Or in alternative you can assemble ppl to tour every street in Lagos to expose the lies of Bakare. If that is what you think Bakare mean you are entitle to your opinion. Bakare statement is clear enough to me to understand that his stone is targeted at the shoeless man. If tribal sentiment blind us from interpreting very straight forward message I think there is problem somewhere.

naturalwaves:

I was going through ur point when I saw that U edited the 5th definition of d word 'ESTATE' cos u saw that,that particular definition suits SKII's point of argument.SMH.That's cheating,u cheated and I am dissapointed.
Y did U add ur own words after d main definition.Now,it is obvious there are many definitions of d word 'Estate'.Ow can U prove that he was not referring to d 5th or 8th.Ow can u show that he is referring to d same definition on ur mind from d list of several definitions? NO WAY! This PTB must be really intelligent.Infact,my love for him just soared!

naturalwaves:

Wow, I love this! Thanks for opening a dictionary.lolz.By the dictionary definitions, I am correct and U are also correct in a way.So,tell me,ow can U say which of the definitions of d word 'THE' he was referring to?or are U in his brains?
The point is, U cannot outrightly say that Tunde Bakare was referring to all persons.The only way U could av caught him in a tight corner is if he had used the word 'A' instead of 'THE'which was well stated in my analysis.Making a conclusion from several possible options/answers is a fallacy!

duni04: I totally agree. Why should someone who hasn't demonstrated personal prudence or enterprise seek to transfer such to the larger society. From jonathan to the other gluttonous African leaders who are only able to assume political power through favoritism and patronage, never through personal enterprise or achievement. We should elect people who have demonstrated some sort of personal achievement or some sort of virtue which we would want replicated on a larger scale in society, or a personal accomplishment which society would ultimately want to reward with political office. The likes of jonathan, who before his assuming the presidency, has no sort of personal accomplishment or achievement. People like that should not even be allowed to run for any kind of election. What on earth does he have to contribute to society, Missiles from his wife?

Sisi_Kill:

Sigh!

This is the reason why I didn't want to get drawn into this debate oh. Nigerians as a whole, we are not very good with figurative speaking, if it ain't literal. . .it just flies over our heads. We have no appreciation for subtlety, if they aren't slamming the point on our heads, we don't get it.(Choi! It used to irk me sooo badly when I watch 'em Nollywood movies and the characters are talking like this "I am going to go to his house to go and abuse him" and the next scene is the person going to the other person's house to go and abuse him . . .like wtf? Why don't you just do it, why do you gotta tell us??!! It wasn't until I got that if things aren't literally explained, laid out bare, busted wide open, stripped naked, most people don't get it that I stopped getting angry. . . but ya know what, that's a story for another day ).

My point (Yes, Yes I have one ) is that Pastor Bakare was speaking figuratively. . .and he is ABSO-FREAKING-LUTELY, right!! Besides, the last I checked members of his congregation are Nigerians (Don't don't stop being Nigerians when they enter the church ya know ) and they are worried about the state of the nation, their future, their children's future. What do ya expect him to talk about in times like this. . . the Story of Noah's Ark or Samson's long hair?

Okija_juju:


This is my final response to you...

You are like a drowning man grasping for straws.. I really could give a fhuck less about Tunde Bakare. He is a Northerner and a descendant of Cattlefuckers...

This thread is not about the way I feel about him but about understanding his comment and the implication thereof.

Should you feel you are ready to debate this subject intellectually devoid of juvenile shenanigans, I will be more than happy to indulge you..





Alusi Okija does not need to edit anything to prove anything.. The onus is now on you to prove that I edited the dictionary definition of estate to suit my purpose..

Secondly, I couldnt make sense of your post as the entire definitions of Estate still referred to ones financial status and never once suggested moral prowess of the lack thereof.

Please take some time to go back and may be either re-read the definitions of 'ESTATE' to see the meaning or re-structure your response so as to properly convey the message you are trying to pass across as the message is lost on me..




Like are you fhucking kidding me?!

Like are you even serious right now?!

Like how old are you?!

Whats your comprehension level?!!

I just spelt out the dictionary meanings and uses of the word "THE" and even gave you examples and you still wrote that you are right?!

Okay, please tell me which other use of THE supports whatever right you are laying claim to?!!

Nna na wah o!!

Like Nairaland is filled with surprising characters..

shine-eye:
Bakare's outburst is a celebration of decadence. The greater regret are his followers who have failed to see where this man is taking them. This was a man invited by the SSS and given all the dignity deserving for any citizen in a decent society. Yet this man talks to the President of a nation in terms unacceptable even to a convicted criminal. Bakare and his backers have gone MAD! What does he think of his conceited self? How much richer is he compared to Jonathan? Whose origin is rich in Africa? We only need to trace a little to discover the wretchedness of Bakare. No man should be insulted on account of his possession- It is an insult on the Almighty. When the spirit left Saul on account of his departure from calling, he was possessed by a demon. BAKARE HAS DEPARTED FROM HIS CALLING AND IS NOW A SHADOW OF HIS FORMER SELF.