T9ksy:

Ojukwu lied!!! He made his people believe that the hausa/fulani were all bent on exterminating all igbos.

There was no likelyhood of such an cccurance but his gullible people swallow his bunkum hook,line and the whole bloody sink.

Why couldn't the igbos have stayed in their region and refuse to bulge until the whole insecurity business was sorted out?

However, ojukwu convinced them that the hausa/fulani were going to follow them to the east to exterminate them.What a big lie!!


How i wish Ojukwu had allowed someonelse to take over the mantle from him, maybe that would have stop us going to war and the gratutious loss

of so many innocent lives from both sides. But hell no! It had to be ojukwu and no one else and when he phocked everything up, he left his people

at the mercy of the "genocidal federal troops" to leg it to abidjan................in search of peace!!!



Oh i see, so if someone brings his/her war to your doorstep, you instinctively respond?

So what's wrong in yorubas responding in their best interest when you igbos brought your war with the northerners, to our frontyard?

Bottomline is, you guys are smart but we yorubas are clever!!!

Igbos decided to fight the northerners who had been slaughtering their people like ramadan cows, on yorubaland and expect we yorubas to

stand akimbo saying that the war does not concern us even as our people, properties and land are being destroyed by the protagonists.

You know where the hausa/fulani region is, ojukwu should have sent his rag-tag army to their region and not to ours.

Have u read about the conference in Aburi?

oduasolja:

dummy. u think war is a childs play.

so u want yorubas to open up a second front with no weapons

u are mad.

so that they can be slaughtered.

we never advocated for seccession , u ran off to war because u are theives.

Now this is d height of cowardice.

My fellow igbos on this forum/thread.
I think its high time we stop joining these cowaRds in singing kum-ba-ya-ya.
They think they aren't suffering, but really, they are.
They envy us because we had/have d guts.
I'm sure they'd be extinct if they had suffered a -3m ppl loss.
Plz stop answering them as they think they've upgraded their knowledge,
Truly, they don't even know d first thing abt dat war!

Cyberg or wat ever is ur name,Don't put ur family in trouble,U re treading where an angels fear to tread,No body challenges the igbo's,go n meet ur father n ask him abt the war!!!! Better go sleep,, u slimmie fool

every sh1t makes it to front page here! what a forum***

[quote author=macjive01][/quote]@macjive,where did u see ur own piece of info,i cannot but laugh at ur ignorance,d reason it wasn't destroyed was simply because every part of it was covered with palm fronds making it invisible to airplanes,if russia took a part of it 2 their country why haven't they build something like it,...........u're really funny.

Desola:

Hahahaa...did this guy just ordered ibos on this forum to stay away? As in command? Wow! They must be sheeps o. As in what is he feeling like? LOl...

simple "singular and plural" are problem to you and you have the effrontery to spew trash against a tribe. ok. It is 'sheep' nd not 'sheeps.' the plural of sheep is also sheep. you can ask any kindergarten child in your vicinity if you are in doubt. happy learning.

van bonattel:

Nigeria can never be! Ojukwu told them and they refused, now see the deep sheit everybody has fallen into now. All these people with tribal marks are all hoping ojukwu succeeded, but shame no go gree them talk.we are not afraid anymore, let the country capsize or bust into flames now. All of una go suffer am together. Ijiots!

The spirit that controls the mind of every Nigerian is SELFISHNESS. Ojukwu dnt led bt want to be the PRESIDENT,BANJO led and want to be the Head of State but have this BLOOD that flows in every YORUBA man ('OMO'BA KAN'),"one body".That's why he refuse to kill his ODUDUWA brethren. Nigeria is a country not a nation that's why it is hard to govern and trust other(with differences-culture,religion,tribe etc). It is hard to agree with this differences. Yoruba pple are nt cowards n nt a betrayal either bt our differences is the setback.

Dayo, pl stop using degradin words against the ibos here. Am yet to read thru the entire thread but I need you to be more humane in your responses to the issue here abeg. CyberG is out to clear the air on the issue of betrayal as claimed by the igbos.

I strongly believe the yorubas didn't betray in anyway, at no time did the yoruba ever claim Banjo betrayed them cos we are open minded, the knowledge and exposure we have has ensured that. our thots on rights to choose one's path.

All of these, I take that ojukwu was ill prepared for the war and he needed a scapegoat as way out thereby claiming it was baba Awo that betrayed him.

You are d only one thinking thanks.even though igbos are betrayers ojukwu was a hero.awolowo and banjo traitors but not thier fault its genetically encoded in every yoruba.gowon who masterminded d igbo genecide is alive today to witness his own pple face d same fate.even in d military in nigeria yorubas are not carried along for a coup to suceed ask ibb.

Obinoscopy: My history might be a bit rusty. But I think he was killed because of an attempted coup and an attempt on the life of Ojukwu. Also Col. Banjo was seen as a traitor. His stopping at Ore during the SouthWest incursion by his men casted doubt on the Biafran Military on his loyalty.

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asha 80: i am sure you were not here when nairaland started in 2005 to 2007 you would have known that it is yorubas that started it with their sly talks.

So these tribal yabbing has been going on that long! Wow. Well, I blame the moderator that placed it on the front page deliberately.

There is something yoruba have not told us. You guys said you had no military and that the army in the west were northern soldiers right? Now, are you guys saying that the biafran liberation force led by banjo was side stepping the so called northern soldiers and killing yoruba civilians instead? Who were the soldiers in youruba land then? Northerners or yorubas? Who did the biafrans engage in ore? Northerners or yorubas? You have to tell us why you were against biafrans engaginging norther soldiers who were occupying your region if indeed they were northerners; if they were not northerners and indeed yoruba, tell us why you keep saying you were unarmed and why you were afraid to lead a struggle for your freedom? @ Cyberg, if you asked a question, wait for answer! Dont be running around this thread trying to control the discuss, that only show insecurity, and only cowards are insecure. Now you cowardly yoruba should answer the question i raised as not side step it again or like in cyberg's style, tell me to stay on the topic. One more thing, what were yoruba officers doing in biafran army? Were they held captives or were they there simple to betray?

The North and Niger Delta are laughing at you two cowards. Please keep the fight on

I read d yorubas posting that banjo was sent to betray his own people...
Do u really think ojukwu would be stupid to send banjo to finish his own people?
He did banjo a big favor. He wanted him to b d 'Jesus' of his people... To save his own people from the claws of the nigerian Army. Ȋ̝̊̅† was never a suicide mission.
Imagine the respect banjo would command if he had succeeded in saving his people from the hausa-dominated nigerian army.
U guys should think!!

I wonder the purpose of this nairaland forum. why is it so tribalistic? I have come to know that Seun is anti-igbo. Every post against the igbo always makes the front page, why? and those good ones from igbo which supposes.to encourage the nigerian youths are locked simply because it's saying a good thing about the igbos.

@op, u're very mad and when I say it, I mean it. Go and examine your head.

This is a gathering of ethnic hyenas, rival wolves and tribal attack dogs!

smh

splendidb20: I wonder the purpose of this nairaland forum. why is it so tribalistic? I have come to know that Seun is anti-igbo. Every post against the igbo always makes the front page, why? and those good ones from igbo which supposes.to encourage the nigerian youths are locked simply because it's saying a good thing about the igbos.

@op, u're very mad and when I say it, I mean it. Go and examine your head.

these topics below didn't make the frontpage
www.nairaland.com/798602/anambra-state-universitys-nuta_bolt-team

www.nairaland.com/916400/how-anambra-univeristy-students-conquered

www.nairaland.com/977445/anambra-state-university-world-news

the bad ones will always make it to the front page

What a hot debate! Firstly, I would strongly disagree with anyone that ascribes cowardice to the Yoruba nation. The fact that Awolowo, Diya and a host of their politicians and top men have displayed this does not amount to the name calling. Where would you place gallant men like Fajuyi, OBJ, Gani Fawehinmi, Fela, Soyinka and even Banjo among others?
Bravery and Treachery are not thesame.
If any Yoruba would be absolved of utmost wickedness surrounding the civil war and the events immediately after it, it is certainly not Awolowo. Many contributors have already mentioned the part he played. Recent exposition by Farouk and Femi Falana's reply confirmed Awolowo's personality. Have you not wondered why Igbos do not condemn Adekunle even though he was ruthless in the war front?
@Topic,
Banjo was killed because he stopped at Ore instead of marching to Lagos as was commanded by Ojukwu which gave the nigerian forces ample opportunity to counter them. And the subsequent plan to assasination attempt allegation involving him, Ifeajuna and others.
Now, lets discuss Banjo. He was a brave and courageous man to have led an army on such a lofty task. The odds against him was either marching into his territory of origin without consultation and make the mission clear when he is in position of advantage or making the consultation before venturing into the terrority with the belief that his people- the west would remain neutral by granting safe passage. As you know, he chose the latter through Soyinka to OBJ only for OBJ to inform Gowon. That mission was a great loss to Biafra as many calculations of the Biafrans was hinged on it.
The Igbos certainly do not hate the Yorubas; all they need is understanding and fairness from the Yorubas.
People like Dayokanu and others that mention the slaughter of innocent women and children in their millions without conscience should know that history is about to repeat itself but this time around a bit differently. Peace to all the progressives.
Those who still see a future for this present nigeria should better wake up and face reality.

sucre!!:
Ojuwu was a greedy and a selfish man, He has no feelings for the Igbo people and it was his greed that led to the Civil war after all if Gowon had renounced his post as the Head of State the war would not have broke out.
OP..Read WHY WE STRUCK by Ademoyega Adewale..

The only yoruba author I trust is Wole Soyinka.All writeups/books written by yoruba authors Iv read is unbelieveably scewed/biased/lopsided and subtly or overtly denigrating anything outside of yorubaland.If I'm lying,just take time and read punch for 5 month and observe unfair daily critism of any GEJ,Patience,Iwuala,Madueke,NNAJI despite their great efforts in their respective ministries.

My several observation of the yorubas convinces me that they are never interested in the progress of others except theirs.They are so self absorbed in themselves.I'm just watching to see where this thing they call sophistication will lead them to,because I know that no man is an island and givers never lack.

So tell me why I should read something written by an Ademoyega.In matters of Biafra I refer people to books written by international authors like Frederick Foresythe ,not even Igbo authors who are not usualy biased.

;DWhy do people have IGBOPHOBIA in this forum? None of you were born at the time the circumstances happened. Sometimes posts on Nairaland forum are a waste of time. Get busy. ;DWhy do people have IGBOPHOBIA in this forum? None of you were born at the time the circumstances happened. Sometimes posts on Nairaland forum are a waste of time. Get busy.

bknight: This is a gathering of ethnic hyenas, rival wolves and tribal attack dogs!

smh

+8

The answers to this question is very straight forward. how on earth would Awo have suported Ojukwu. Ojukwu was never friend to Awo. Awo was in prsion when the trouble started and was released by Gowon and made prime minister(vice chairman of FEC) and minister of Finance. why would a man who was given such now back Ojukwu against as government in which he holds substantial stake. Also, Gown promised a return to civil rule,Awo stsnds a better chance to succed Gowon then as president if there is a return to civil rule. so why would he have back Ojukwu.
the truth is : ojukwu failed and wanted to hang his failure on Awo. period.!! Ojukwu was still a failure till death.!!!

Now i understand why google thinks that Yorubas are the problem of Nigeria.. They are sabotuers and betrayals. The same way awolowo dinned with the hausa are the same way tinubu is going.

Thank God all of una are reaping the fruits of One Nigeria

@asha 80:my friend quit the ignorance.if you speak the language pronounce it and tell me whether it is 'gb' or 'b' you hear.stop the colomentality.

Be civil,I do not know what you mean by "quit the ignorance" Igbo language has the letter "gb" as one of its alphabet. I am not arguing with you, I am teaching you if you care to learn,"Ibo" refers to the tribe while "Igbo" is the language

splendidb20: I wonder the purpose of this nairaland forum. why is it so tribalistic? I have come to know that Seun is anti-igbo. Every post against the igbo always makes the front page, why? and those good ones from igbo which supposes.to encourage the nigerian youths are locked simply because it's saying a good thing about the igbos.

@op, u're very mad and when I say it, I mean it. Go and examine your head.

That is why Seun the owner of nairaland cannot enjoy stardom.He cannot show up in public cos he is ashamed,unlike bloggers like Linda Ikeji,and owners of Bellanaija.com etc

CyberG:

Good you weighed-in but you missed the mark. Banjo had an agreement with ojukwu, for some reasons he didn't miss the mark, so he betrayed ojukwu.

Now, Chief Awolowo NEVER had any agreement with ojukwu and in fact gave him a contrary advice earlier, how is it betrayal when he protected his people? Does it mean only ibos are always betrayed, and they must have it both ways? To whom was the loyalty of Chief Awolowo, was it to his people and country or BIAFRA? Give us an answer.

his loyalty was wit d abokis{gowon}as quoted by d hausa spokesman who is am elder and witness of d war.d issue of betrayal came ist wen Awo said at ist dat he is not goin to back any side in d war,leta he told obj not to allow biafrians safe passage to lagos which at dat time is d seat of government in orda to carry d war to gowon and force him to peace treaty.

sammhi: The answers to this question is very straight forward. how on earth would Awo have suported Ojukwu. Ojukwu was never friend to Awo. Awo was in prsion when the trouble started and was released by Gowon and made prime minister(vice chairman of FEC) and minister of Finance. why would a man who was given such now back Ojukwu against as government in which he holds substantial stake. Also, Gown promised a return to civil rule,Awo stsnds a better chance to succed Gowon then as president if there is a return to civil rule. so why would he have back Ojukwu.
the truth is : ojukwu failed and wanted to hang his failure on Awo. period.!! Ojukwu was still a failure till death.!!!

Its obvious you don't know anything.. Haven't you read or heard where Ojukwu release awolowo from jail and even transferred him from the north to calabar to avoid him been killed in the north and eventually released him from calabar prison. Guy do your home work well before you yarn opata.

Read up = https://www.nairaland.com/811932/interview-ojukwucomments-coup-awolowo

Yorubas are the Problem with Nigeria - By Sanusi Lamido Sanusi
Written by Sanusi Lamido Sanusi
Wednesday, 27 May 2009 05:01

By Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, the Prosective Governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria
In sum, the Yoruba political leadership, as mentioned by Balarabe Musa, has shown itself over the years to be incapable of rising above narrow tribal interests and reciprocating goodwill from other sections of the country by treating other groups with respect. Practically every crisis in Nigeria since independence has its roots in this attitude.

i. The Yoruba elite and area-boy politics;
ii. Igbo marginalisation and the responsible limits of retribution; and
iii. The Yoruba Factor and "Area-boy" Politics.

See also The Adulteress' Diary by Lamido Sanusi

My views on the Yoruba political leadership have been thoroughly articulated in some of my writings, prime among which was " Afenifere: Syllabus of Errors" published by This Day (The Sunday Newspaper) on Sept 27, 1998. There was also an earlier publication in the weekly Trust entitled " The Igbo, the Yoruba and History" (Aug. 21, 1998).

In sum, the Yoruba political leadership, as mentioned by Balarabe Musa, has shown itself over the years to be incapable of rising above narrow tribal interests and reciprocating goodwill from other sections of the country by treating other groups with respect. Practically every crisis in Nigeria since independence has its roots in this attitude.

The Yoruba elite were the first, in 1962, to attempt a violent overthrow of an elected government in this country. In 1966, it was the violence in the West which provided an avenue for the putsch of 15th January. After Chief Awolowo lost to Shagari in 1983 elections, it was the discontent and bad publicity in the South-West which led to the Buhari intervention. When Buhari jailed UPN governors like Ige and Onabanjo, the South-Western press castigated that good government and provided the right mood for IBB to take over power. As soon as IBB cleared UPN governors of charges against them in a politically motivated retrial, he became the darling of the South-West. When IBB annulled the primaries in which Adamu Ciroma and Shehu Yar Adua emerged as presidential candidates in the NRC and SDP, he was hailed by the South-West. When the same man annulled the June 12, 1993 elections in which Abiola was the front-runner, the South-West now became defenders of democracy.



When it seemed Sani Abacha was sympathetic to Abiola, the South-West supported his take-over. He was in fact invited by a prominent NADECO member to take over in a published letter shortly before the event. Even though Abiola had won the elections in the North, the North was blamed for its annulment. When Abdulsalam Abubakar started his transition, the Yoruba political leadership through NADECO presented a memorandum on a Government of National Unity that showed complete disrespect for the intelligence and liberties of other Nigerians.





Subsequently, they formed a tribal party which failed to meet minimum requirements for registration, but was registered all the same to avoid the violence that was bound to follow non-registration, given the area-boy mentality of South-West politicians. Having rejected an Obasanjo candidacy and challenged the election as a fraud in court, we now find a leading member of the AD in the government, a daughter of an Afenifere leader as Minister of State, and Awolowo´s daughter as Ambassador, all appointed by a man who won the election through fraud.



Meanwhile, nothing has been negotiated for the children of Abiola, the focus of Yoruba political activity. In return for these favours, the AD solidly voted for Evan Enwerem as Senate President. This is a man who participated in the two-million- man March for Abacha´s self-succession. He also is reputed to have hosted a meeting of governors during IBB´s transition, demanding that June 12 elections should never be de-annulled and threatening that the East would go to war if this was done. When Ibrahim Salisu Buhari was accused of swearing to a false affidavit, the Yoruba political elite correctly took up the gauntlet for his resignation.



When an AD governor, Bola Tinubu, swears to a false affidavit that he attended an Ivy League University which he did not attend, we hear excuses.


For so many years, the Yoruba have inundated this country with stories of being marginalised and of a civil service dominated by northerners through quota system. The Federal Character Commission has recently released a report which shows that the South-West accounts for 27.8% of civil servants in the range GL08 to GL14 and a full 29.5% of GL 15 and above. One zone out of six zones controls a full 30% of the civil service leaving the other five zones to share the remaining 70%. We find the same story in the economy, in academia, in parastatals.

Yet in spite of being so dominant, the Yoruba complained and complained of marginalization. Of recent, in recognition of the trauma which hit the South-West after June 12, the rest of the country forced everyone out of the race to ensure that a South-Westerner emerged, often against the best advice of political activists.



Instead of leading a path of reconciliation and strong appreciation, the Yoruba have embarked on short-sighted triumphalism, threatening other "nationalities" that they ( who after all lost the election) will protect Obasanjo ( who was forced on them). No less a person than Bola Ige has made such utterances.



To further show that they were in charge, they led a cult into the Hausa area of Sagamu, murdered a Hausa woman and nothing happened. In the violence that followed, they killed several Hausa residents, with Yoruba leaders like Segun Osoba, reminding Nigerians of the need to respect the culture of their host communities. This would have continued were it not for the people of Kano who showed that they could also create their own Oro who would only be appeased through the shedding of innocent Yoruba blood.

I say all this, to support Balarabe Musa´s statement, that the greatest problem to nation-building in Nigeria are the Yoruba Bourgeoisie. I say this also to underscore my point that until they change this attitude, no conference can solve the problems of Nigeria. We cannot move forward if the leadership of one of the largest ethnic groups continues to operate, not like statesmen, but like common area boys.

iii.The Igbo Factor and the Reasonable Limits of Retribution.

The Igbo people of Nigeria have made a mark in the history of this nation. They led the first successful military coup which eliminated the Military and Political leaders of other regions while letting off Igbo leaders. Nwafor Orizu, then Senate President, in consultation with President Azikiwe, subverted the constitution and handed over power to Aguiyi-Ironsi. Subsequent developments, including attempts at humiliating other peoples, led to the counter-coup and later the civil war. The Igbos themselves must acknowledge that they have a large part of the blame for shattering the unity of this country.

Having said that, this nation must realise that Igbos have more than paid for their foolishness. They have been defeated in war, rendered paupers by monetary policy fiat, their properties declared abandoned and confiscated, kept out of strategic public sector appointments and deprived of public services. The rest of the country forced them to remain in Nigeria and has continued to deny them equity.

The Northern Bourgeoisie and the Yoruba Bourgeoisie have conspired to keep the Igbo out of the scheme of things. In the recent transition when the Igbo solidly supported the PDP in the hope of an Ekwueme presidency, the North and South-West treated this as a Biafra agenda. Every rule set for the primaries, every gentleman´s agreement was set aside to ensure that Obasanjo, not Ekwueme emerged as the candidate. Things went as far as getting the Federal Government to hurriedly gazette a pardon. Now, with this government, the marginalistion of the Igbo is more complete than ever before. The Igbos have taken all these quietly because, they reason, they brought it upon themselves. But the nation is sitting on a time-bomb.

After the First World War, the victors treated Germany with the same contempt Nigeria is treating Igbos. Two decades later, there was a Second World War, far costlier than the first. Germany was again defeated, but this time, they won a more honourable peace. Our present political leaders have no sense of History. There is a new Igbo man, who was not born in 1966 and neither knows nor cares about Nzeogwu and Ojukwu. There are Igbo men on the street who were never Biafrans. They were born Nigerians, are Nigerians, but suffer because of actions of earlier generations. They will soon decide that it is better to fight their own war, and may be find an honourable peace, than to remain in this contemptible state in perpetuity.

The Northern Bourgeoisie and the Yoruba Bourgeoisie have exacted their pound of flesh from the Igbos. For one Sardauna, one Tafawa Balewa, one Akintola and one Okotie-Eboh, hundreds of thousands have died and suffered.

If this issue is not addressed immediately, no conference will solve Nigeria´s problems.


By Sanusi Lamido Sanus

If you are a yoruba on this forum and you are deluded like the OP please go and meet your grand father or any old man in your village that speaks the truth to tell you more about the biafra - Nigerian conflict cause all of you here are deluded and ignorant. Childishness are worrying you guys

CyberG: But one of the core issues this question seeks to address is when Lt. Col. Banjo leads an army against his people and homeland, SE folks don't see anything wrong in such BETRAYAL of his own people. However, they rail unfairly against Chief Awolowo who NEVER made a pact with them at anytime. Is this not double standards and hypocrisy? I want my fellow Igbo brothers to address this topic confidently and honestly.

that is called honest

Madawaki01: Don't know why either,but in d peak of d battle,he was killed by ojukwu for selfish reasons,they said he called his army the liberation instead of the biafran army,does this concern ojukwu?what he wanted was the sovereign state of biafra and banjo was fighting d nigerian army,but he wanted people to say the biafran army conquered the mid west,i think he wanted d whole of nigeria(to b the president)and not only biafra,when he knows dat he didn't hav experienced officers in his army,why didn't he wait for a little time before plunging into a war,maybe he thinks a war is a childs play,he only led his pple into misfortune and igbos are licking that wound till today

ur still a kid. How can u say ojukwu decided to go to war. D goverment of then eastern region decided. Ojukwu employed every means of conflict resolution including aburi accord. Pls stop writing out of sentiment,how can u say he war interested in ruling nigeria, are u well at all. Hw can someone secede and stil be interested in ruling the parent country. He never even took the war to d north. It was more of defencive tactics that was employed. It pains me that even wit the present happening in d north ppl hvnt opened their myopic eyes to see what ojukwu saw over 40yrs ago. Its a pity!