if you have a relationship with someone for a few years, you get engaged, you both maintain each other even where there is no obligation to do so.you sell your own property with the intention to buy new property with your fiance/fiancee. some of the money you use it or wedding preparations, you bought the wedding rings, you paid for the honeymoon. a month before the wedding he/she breaks off the engage because he/she fell for someone else...would u sue for breach of promise to marry or would u just let it go without a fight? if so, give grounds u would base it on

I'd just let him go, nurse my broken heart and move on.

You can't arrest her. Move on and find someone elso. In fact that's why some men have decided to deal with so many women.

She just proved herself to be extremely sick,so it will be pointless having anything with her,so I will just let it go.

In fact I will have a thanksgiving service for not marrying a lunatic.

vislabraye: You can't arrest her. Move on and find someone elso. In fact that's why some men have decided to deal with so many women.

Actually, you can sue him or her if u want to.

I would simply try to get as much money back as possible, from the wedding preparation,rings etc then move on. It will be easier to forget about her before marriage, than after.

vislabraye: You can't arrest her. Move on and find someone elso. In fact that's why some men have decided to deal with so many women.

institute a civil claim not a criminal charge against her

^^^ Why sue a person because they fell out of love with you? In life, you win some and you lose some. Both are equally to blame for what happened, the groom for thinking that she was the one when she wasn't, the bride for thinking that he was the one when he wasn't.

RudySmith: ^^^ Why sue a person because they fell out of love with you? In life, you win some and you lose some. Both are equally to blame for what happened, the groom for thinking that she was the one when she wasn't, the bride for thinking that he was the one when he wasn't.

its sueing for a breach of promise to marry

^^^ What u wrote is like saying that because someone wants to divorce u, they should be sued for not loving u forever as they say they would during marriage proceedings. the guy or girl don't love u, u leave. abi what more do u need?

RudySmith: ^^^ What u wrote is like saying that because someone wants to divorce u, they should be sued for not loving u forever as they say they would during marriage proceedings. the guy or girl don't love u, u leave. abi what more do u need?

when u sue someone during divorce proceedings its usually because the person being sued caused an irretrievable breakdown of the marriage, not because they dont love other spouse anymore. when you sue for breach of promise, u are suing for someone not fulfilling an obligation which as a result caused u to suffer losses (not for someone not loving u anymore), hence i made an emphasise that u made contributions believing that a marriage wld be entered to

vivian chinaza:

Actually, you can sue him or her if u want to.

no you cant, what is d evidence dat he made d promise, any document,signature, etc. No court wil answer u

engrtee:

no you cant, what is d evidence dat he made d promise, any document,signature, etc. No court wil answer u

people present when the proposal was made and accepted, an engagement ring can serve as evidence of the existence of the engagement or other gifts given followed by a marriage proposal.

mondi_cheeks: when u sue someone during divorce proceedings its usually because the person being sued caused an irretrievable breakdown of the marriage, not because they dont love other spouse anymore. when you sue for breach of promise, u are suing for someone not fulfilling an obligation which as a result caused u to suffer losses (not for someone not loving u anymore), hence i made an emphasise that u made contributions believing that a marriage wld be entered to

Is it now an obligation to marry someone? Isn't love a main reason 2 marry Or do u expect people 2 keep marriage proceedings even if they don't love their partner any longer? Let us all remember that no one was forced into making these payments, nor did they enter any contract to do so.
Nothing was lost since the bride didnt gain anything from it all, or did she? What's next? Sue a girl for breaking up with you? LWKMD!

engrtee:

no you cant, what is d evidence dat he made d promise, any document,signature, etc. No court wil answer u

Ok, correct me if I'm wrong and I'd stand corrected. When two people promise each other marriage, a contract has come into existence.......Bilateral contract to be precise which is also known as executory consideration. So yea any breach of any kind of contract, the defaulter is liable.

Then again in this case, some considerations were furnished....someone purchased stuffs ok...... So its either you payback the other party's expenses or u get sued. You are not suing for the person to remain in your life, no, but u are suing for damages. In this case, there are receipts from the purchase of wedding ring.......etc. So yes I think the defaulter can be sued.

Well, I might be wrong.....what do I know? I'm not a lawyer btw.

RudySmith:

Is it now an obligation to marry someone? Isn't love a main reason 2 marry Or do u expect people 2 keep marriage proceedings even if they don't love their partner any longer? Let us all remember that no one was forced into making these payments, nor did they enter any contract to do so.
Nothing was lost since the bride didnt gain anything from it all, or did she? What's next? Sue a girl for breaking up with you? LWKMD!

point of correction an engagement is an AGREEMENT entered into by 2 people to conclude a civil marriage or partnership within reasonable time. it can be CONTRACTED orally or verbally. but the payments would not have been made if there was not reasonable belief that a marriage would be entered into on a determinable future date...

k2039: She just proved herself to be extremely sick,so it will be pointless having anything with her,so I will just let it go.

In fact I will have a thanksgiving service for not marrying a lunatic.

Exactly!

mondi_cheeks: point of correction an engagement is an AGREEMENT entered into by 2 people to conclude a civil marriage or partnership within reasonable time. it can be CONTRACTED orally or verbally. but the payments would not have been made if there was not reasonable belief that a marriage would be entered into on a determinable future date...

Point of correction my dear, here in the UK at least, engagement to marry is not enforceable by law, so anyone can go on their merry way, and since the engagement ring was a gift it could also be kept by the bride, if she wanted to.

As stated by this article:
The gift of an engagement ring shall be presumed to be an absolute gift; this presumption may be rebutted by proving that the ring was given on the condition, express or implied, that it should be returned if the marriage did not take place for any reason.

Although it seems unfair, this means that unless there was an agreement to return the engagement ring if the wedding is cancelled -- which a court could imply if the ring is a family heirloom -- a cheating fiancé/fiancée is under no obligation to return the ring.
http://www.findlaw.co.uk/law/family/other_family_law_topics/500298.html

You could also check the following:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1970/33/pdfs/ukpga_19700033_en.pdf

Breach of promise. I will sue her just for the fun of it

Sue for breach of promise to marry?? Hehehe...this is laughable.isn't that a subtle way of Revenge? It is. And one thing about revenge is that it 'boomerangs'. U end up more hurt than u shud have been if u left the 'breacher' and moved on...nice topic,mondi

but it says the presumption may be rebutted according to s3(2) of the Law Reform(Miscelloneous Provisions) Act 1970. if i understand the legislature's intention...a ring can be returned if provisions to do so have been made. so the bride can keep it only if provisions to return it are not made.

Mynd_44: Breach of promise. I will sue her just for the fun of it

i can specialise in family law jus for pple like u

mondi_cheeks: i can specialise in family law jus for pple like u

Sure. I will call you up

mondi_cheeks: but it says the presumption may be rebutted according to s3(2) of the Law Reform(Miscelloneous Provisions) Act 1970. if i understand the legislature's intention...a ring can be returned if provisions to do so have been made. so the bride can keep it only if provisions to return it are not made.

Who talked about not returning the ring if they had such agreement? The main point is, there is no ground 2 sue the person simply because they didn't want 2 marry u any longer. U can only sue if there was a contract made between the two that the ring should be returned if there is no marriage.

Most today's girl will even throw the damn ring in ur face 2 begin with, let alone keep the silly rock.

mondi_cheeks: i can specialise in family law jus for pple like u

If you are a lawyer, then you really suck at arguing constructively...........hiring you won't be a good idea.

Sorry, just saying.

RudySmith:

Who talked about not returning the ring if they had such agreement? The main point is, there is no ground 2 sue the person simply because they didn't want 2 marry u any longer. U can only sue if there was a contract made between the two that the ring should be returned if there is no marriage.

Most today's girl will even throw the damn ring in ur face 2 begin with, let alone keep the silly rock.

With all due respect sir, the law doesn't see it that way. That people don't do it doesn't mean it is not possible. Sometimes we just let things go because we want some certain chapters closed in our lives.

Thank you!

RudySmith:
Point of correction my dear, here in the UK at least, engagement to marry is not enforceable by law, so anyone can go on their merry way, and since the engagement ring was a gift it could also be kept by the bride, if she wanted to.

its not a matter of her choosing to keep it if she wants to, she can only keep it if a condition to return it is not given.

vivian chinaza:
If you are a lawyer, then you really suck at arguing constructively...........hiring you won't be a good idea.
Sorry, just saying.

i was implying that i would only do it if im getting money out of mynd, not that i actually have an intention to specialise in family law...it wasnt directed to anyone else!

mondi_cheeks: i was implying that i would only do it if im getting money out of mynd, not that i actually have an intention to specialise in family law...it wasnt directed to anyone else!

Easy tigress.....I'm on your side ok. Its obvious the guy you are arguing with knows little or nothing about law......or law of contract ok. So I want you to bring you A game and school him on it.

mondi_cheeks: its not a matter of her choosing to keep it if she wants to, she can only keep it if a condition to return it is not given.

U r now saying what I have been saying all along: unless they have a contract in place for the engagement ring to be returned, there is no ground for suing as you claimed. If there r no contract, then she can choose 2 keep the ring, and there is nothing that anyone can do about it, as it was a gift.

So what u wrote below is wrong and a sure waste of time.

mondi_cheeks: its sueing for a breach of promise to marry

vivian chinaza:

Easy tigress.....I'm on your side ok. Its obvious the guy you are arguing with knows little or nothing about law......or law of contract ok. So I want you to bring you A game and school him on it.

cool hun

RudySmith:
the engagement ring was a gift it could also be kept by the bride, if she wanted to.

this is where i was saying u made an error...its not if she wanted to...its if conditions to do so were not given!