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Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 5:47pm On Mar 12
Idi mma ezi Chinekeeee....
Eligwe na-agba ama......
Mu onwem na-asi, n'idi mma;
Idi mma ezi Chinekeeee.....
Singing and Worshipping EL-SHADDAI(Father, Son and the Holy Spirit)
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 5:49pm On Mar 12
Come and Surrender your life to the Lordship of Jesus Christ Crucified :

"Jesus answered and said unto him, “Verily, verily I say unto thee, unless a man be born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God.”
4 Nicodemus said unto Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?”
5 Jesus answered, “Verily, verily I say unto thee, unless a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." (John 3:3-6 )

Are you born-again in Christ Jesus Crucified ?

What does it mean to be born-again in Christ Jesus Crucified ?

1. Hear and understand the gospel of Jesus Christ Crucified, Resurrected and Glorified.

2. Become convicted as a sinner because you inherited sin's nature(the flesh) from Adam and your own personal sins by the Holy Spirit through the gospel that you heard.

3. Repentance from sin's nature and sinful lifestyle.

4. Believe in Jesus Christ death and resurrection as your own remission/atonement for sin's nature and sinful lifestyle.

5. Decide to live only in obedience to Jesus Christ teachings by praying for the release of God's mercy and grace from His throne of Grace each day and moments of your life even as you engage in personal daily bible studies and fellowship with the Holy Spirit.

6. Submit to water baptism by immersion(In the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit; Matthew 28:18-20, Romans 6:3-4) if you have not been baptized according as Jesus was baptized before now as an outward sign of the new creation life that you have received in Christ.


ARE YOU READY TO RECEIVE JESUS CHRIST CRUCIFIED NOW ?


Repent from your sin inside your heart now, accept that you are a sinner in the eyes of God, ask JESUS CHRIST to wash you with His Precious Blood shed on the Cross of Calvary and ask Him to receive you into His kingdom and fill you with His Holy Spirit through the name of Jesus. This can be done by saying this prayer and declarative words of salvation
thus
"Father, I come to you now recognizing that I am a sinner, I ask you to save my soul by the effects of Jesus death on the Cross and His resurrection, receive me as your SON and fill me with your Holy Spirit Power to sustain me till the end in your holiness in Jesus name. Amen".

Then you can join any fellowship that *preaches CHRIST AND HIM CRUCIFIED ALONE* close to your neighborhood so that you will ask them to baptize you with water and join them to grow your NEW LIFE/FAITH in JESUS CHRIST CRUCIFIED daily through daily personal bible studies and quiet-time with the Holy Spirit.

On your own, you can get a holy bible then start reading it so that you will have more revelational knowledge about JESUS CHRIST CRUCIFIED who is now YOUR NEW LIFE especially from the New testament, you can start from the Gospel according to St. Matthew, few verses each day like Matthew 1:1-17 for the first day, 2nd day Matthew 1:18-25; OR John 1:1-5, John 1:6-10, John 1:11-18 e.t.c.

Each time before you open the holy bible to study; ask the Holy Spirit to reveal JESUS CHRIST CRUCIFIED FRESH INTO YOUR HEART thus
"Father, fill me with your Holy Spirit baptism of Power and Fire *new/fresh* and mix your written word with faith in my heart even as I study each word and sentence now and any other time I remember it in my heart in Jesus name. Amen".
If you have more questions then you can inbox me or ask any Christian around your neighborhood.
Great Grace Brethren!!!
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 9:29pm On Mar 12
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it." (Matthew 10:34-39 KJV)
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 10:58am On Mar 13
"While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. 47 Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.”

48 But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” 49 And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.” (Matthew 12:46-50 NKJV)
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 12:24pm On Mar 13
"And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose." (Romans 8:28 NKJV)
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 12:35pm On Mar 13
Excerpt:
Love Not the World by Watchman Nee

Topic: Crucified Unto Me (chapter 4)

The author leads us into separation from the principles of worldly/sinful lifestyle as the bases/foundation of a genuine Christian.
We do not get separated from the world by not using created things like money, clothes, cars, accessories, business, education, professions, talents, sports e.t.c rather having an understanding that the world system is under the sentence of death (John 12:30-34).

The world has been sentenced for destruction by God hence we should not be investing into a business that we know its end is collapse

The difference between a separated human being unto Christ is the revelation of the ministry/service/purpose of the Cross in our individual lives not just mere understanding. Understanding and head knowledge of the Cross as well as the holy bible or Christian religion does not bring separation unto Christ Jesus Crucified rather the revelation that comes from Heaven. It is through this revelation that any human being born inside this world originates from heaven. It is only those who originate from heaven that will hold fast to the grace of the Cross till the end and be able to return back to their origin at the end of this earthly journey.

The author declares "A revelation of the Cross of Christ involves for us the discovery of this fact, that through it everything belonging to the world is under sentence of death. We still go on living in the world and using the things of the world, but we can build no future with them, for the Cross has shattered all our hope in them. The Cross of our Lord Jesus, we may truly say, has ruined our prospects in the world; we have nothing to live for there."
This is the only type of revelation that can completely save us from worldly lifestyle.

Going further the author stated thus "But we inevitably lose all interest in the world, and it loses its grip on us, as soon as it dawns upon us that the world is doomed. To see that is to be automatically severed/separated from Satan's entire economy."
At the end of his letter to the Galatians Paul states this very clearly. "Far be it from me to glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which the world hath been crucified unto me, and I unto the world" (6:14).

In conclusion; Let me ask you: What is your occupation? A merchant? A doctor? A student? Do not run away from these callings. Simply write down: Trade is under the sentence of death. Write: Medicine is under the sentence of death. Education is under the sentence of death. If you do that in truth, life will be changed for you hereafter. In the midst of a world under judgment for its hostility towards God you will know what it is to live as one who truly loves and fears HIM.

Great Grace Brethren!!!

In the Name of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit. +. Amen.
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 12:50pm On Mar 13
"Therefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, I do not cease to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers: that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him, so that the eyes of your understanding being enlightened; you may know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints, and what is the exceeding greatness of His power toward us who believe, according to the working of His mighty power which He worked in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, far above all principality and power and might and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the age which is to come in Jesus name. Amen." (Ephesians 1: 15-21 NKJV)
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 6:47pm On Mar 14
"On Saturday evening we gathered together for the fellowship meal. Paul spoke to the people and kept on speaking until midnight, since he was going to leave the next day. 8 Many lamps were burning in the upstairs room where we were meeting. 9 A young man named Eutychus was sitting in the window, and as Paul kept on talking, Eutychus got sleepier and sleepier, until he finally went sound asleep and fell from the third story to the ground. When they picked him up, he was dead. 10 But Paul went down and threw himself on him and hugged him. “Don't worry,” he said, “he is still alive!” 11 Then he went back upstairs, broke bread, and ate. After talking with them for a long time, even until sunrise, Paul left. 12 They took the young man home alive and were greatly comforted." (Acts. 20:7-12 GNT)
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 6:51pm On Mar 14
"You were at one time spiritually dead because of your sins and because you were Gentiles without the Law. But God has now brought you to life with Christ. God forgave us all our sins; 14 he canceled the unfavorable record of our debts with its binding rules and did away with it completely by nailing it to the cross. 15 And on that cross Christ freed himself from the power of the spiritual rulers and authorities; he made a public spectacle of them by leading them as captives in his victory procession."
(Colossians 2:13-15 GNT)

Faith does not make things easy rather it makes things possible. From the moment that you get a revelation from the Holy Spirit till the moment it comes to physical manifestations there are going to be perils/trying times which might even deteriorate further as we press-on in prayers but once we hold unto the correct mindset that warfare in union with Christ Jesus Crucified *is our kingdom lifestyle*; we shall remain focused on the Victory already achieved on the Cross of Calvary about 2021 years ago then press-on even in the midst of deeper deterioration while THE LIGHT OF CHRIST SHINES AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL. ALLELUIA!!!
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 11:50am On Mar 15
"let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole. 11 This is the ‘stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.’ 12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” (Acts. 4:10-12 NKJV)


Jesus Christ Crucified on the Cross of Calvary as the atonement for the sin of human beings is the only name given among human beings which is recognized by the heavenly realm, earthly realm and underworld by which any human being can be saved from sin, Adamic-ancestral curses/flesh, wicked principalities/powers in the Heavenly-realm/world and hell-fire.


"You were at one time spiritually dead because of your sins and because you were Gentiles without the Law. But God has now brought you to life with Christ. God forgave us all our sins; 14 he canceled the unfavorable record of our debts with its binding rules and did away with it completely by nailing it to the cross. 15 And on that cross Christ freed himself from the power of the spiritual rulers and authorities; he made a public spectacle of them by leading them as captives in his victory procession."
(Colossians 2:13-15 GNT)
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 12:56pm On Mar 15
"ONCE HAVE I HEARD,
TWO-TIMES DO I KNOW,
THAT ALL POWER IN THE HEAVENS, EARTH AND UNDERWORLD BELONGS TO GOD(FATHER, SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT)"
(Psalm 62:11)


Child of God; what are you scared-about ?


who is that person scaring you with his/her witchcraftery/demonic-spirit or political-position or office-title or monetary-power or death-threats or threats-of-marital-disengagements ?

The only thing that you should be scared-about is sin; if you have sinned in your hearts/thoughts/desires/actions/lifestyle, REPENT, RENOUNCE SUCH SINS AND SINFUL BUSINESS/RELATIONSHIP/CULT/OAT/COVENANT AND CALL ON THE NAME OF JESUS FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS AND COMPLETE SALVATION


Because *any human being in any location in this earth who calls on the name of JESUS CHRIST CRUCIFIED ON THE CROSS OF CALVARY FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF HUMAN SIN WILL BE SAVED COMPLETELY* thus


"Jesus answered them, I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, Whoever commits and practices sin is the slave of sin.

35 Now a slave does not remain in a household permanently (forever); the son [of the house] does remain forever.

36 So if the Son liberates you [makes you free men], then you are really and unquestionably free." (John 8:34-36 ampc)


AND


"[Again, the former successive line of priests] was made up of many, because they were each prevented by death from continuing [perpetually in office];

24 But He(JESUS CHRIST CRUCIFIED) holds His priesthood unchangeably, because He lives on forever.

25 Therefore He is able also to save to the uttermost (completely, perfectly, finally, and for all time and eternity) those who come to God through Him, since He is always living to make petition to God and intercede with Him and intervene for them.

26 [Here is] the High Priest [perfectly adapted] to our needs, as was fitting—holy, blameless, unstained by sin, separated from sinners, and exalted higher than the heavens." (Hebrews 7:23-26 AMPC)


Great Grace Brethren!!!
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 4:26pm On Mar 15
"We went on ahead to the ship and sailed off to Assos, where we were going to take Paul aboard. He had told us to do this, because he was going there by land. 14 When he met us in Assos, we took him aboard and went on to Mitylene. 15 We sailed from there and arrived off Chios the next day. A day later we came to Samos, and the following day we reached Miletus. 16 Paul had decided to sail on by Ephesus, so as not to lose any time in the province of Asia. He was in a hurry to arrive in Jerusalem by the day of Pentecost, if at all possible." (Acts. 20:14-16 GNT)
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by budaatum: 7:15pm On Mar 15
One weak irresponsible man's excuse, and his punishment.

Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by budaatum: 12:58pm On Mar 16
Psalm 15

Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 6:23pm On Mar 16
And now [brethren], I commit you to God [I deposit you in His charge, entrusting you to His protection and care]. And I commend you to the Word of His grace [to the commands and counsels and promises of His unmerited favor]. It is able to build you up and to give you [your rightful] inheritance among all God’s set-apart ones (those consecrated, purified, and transformed of soul) in Jesus name. Amen.
(Acts. 20:32 ampc)
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 6:31pm On Mar 16
"However, from Miletus he sent to Ephesus and summoned the elders of the church [to come to him there].

18 And when they arrived he said to them: You yourselves are well acquainted with my manner of living among you from the first day that I set foot in [the province of] Asia, and how I continued afterward,

19 Serving the Lord with all humility in tears and in the midst of adversity (affliction and trials) which befell me, due to the plots of the Jews [against me];

20 How I did not shrink from telling you anything that was for your benefit and teaching you in public meetings and from house to house,

21 But constantly and earnestly I bore testimony both to Jews and Greeks, urging them to turn in repentance [[b]that is due] to God and to have faith in our Lord Jesus Christ [[c]that is due Him].

22 And now, you see, I am going to Jerusalem, bound by the [Holy] Spirit and obligated and compelled by the [convictions of my own] spirit, not knowing what will befall me there—

23 Except that the Holy Spirit clearly and emphatically affirms to me in city after city that imprisonment and suffering await me.

24 But none of these things move me; neither do I esteem my life dear to myself, if only I may finish my course with joy and the ministry which I have obtained from [which was entrusted to me by] the Lord Jesus, faithfully to attest to the good news (Gospel) of God’s grace (His unmerited favor, spiritual blessing, and mercy).

25 And now, observe, I perceive that all of you, among whom I have gone in and out proclaiming the kingdom, will see my face no more.

26 Therefore I testify and protest to you on this [our parting] day that I am clean and innocent and not responsible for the blood of any of you.

27 For I never shrank or kept back or fell short from declaring to you the whole purpose and plan and counsel of God.

28 Take care and be on guard for yourselves and the whole flock over which the Holy Spirit has appointed you bishops and guardians, to shepherd (tend and feed and guide) the church of the Lord or [d]of God which He obtained for Himself [buying it and saving it for Himself] with His own blood.

29 I know that after I am gone, ferocious wolves will get in among you, not sparing the flock;

30 Even from among your own selves men will come to the front who, by saying perverse (distorted and corrupt) things, will endeavor to draw away the disciples after them [to their own party].

31 Therefore be always alert and on your guard, being mindful that for three years I never stopped night or day seriously to admonish and advise and exhort you one by one with tears.

32 And now [brethren], I commit you to God [I deposit you in His charge, entrusting you to His protection and care]. And I commend you to the Word of His grace [to the commands and counsels and promises of His unmerited favor]. It is able to build you up and to give you [your rightful] inheritance among all God’s set-apart ones (those consecrated, purified, and transformed of soul).

33 I coveted no man’s silver or gold or [costly] garments.

34 You yourselves know personally that these hands ministered to my own needs and those [of the persons] who were with me.

35 In everything I have pointed out to you [by example] that, by working diligently in this manner, we ought to assist the weak, being mindful of the words of the Lord Jesus, how He Himself said, It is more blessed (makes one happier and more [e]to be envied) to give than to receive.

36 Having spoken thus, he knelt down with them all and prayed.

37 And they all wept freely and threw their arms around Paul’s neck and kissed him fervently and repeatedly,

38 Being especially distressed and sorrowful because he had stated that they were about to see his face no more. And they accompanied him to the ship." (Acts 20:17-38 ampc)
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 6:52pm On Mar 16
"Clothe yourselves therefore, as God’s own chosen ones (His own picked representatives), [who are] purified and holy and well-beloved [by God Himself, by putting on behavior marked by] tenderhearted pity and mercy, kind feeling, a lowly opinion of yourselves, gentle ways, [and] patience [which is tireless and long-suffering, and has the power to endure whatever comes, with good temper]."
(Colossians 3:12 ampc)
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by budaatum: 7:56pm On Mar 16
1 Corinthians 9:19-22

Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Kobojunkie: 11:54pm On Mar 16
ochibuogwu5:
Marital Mutual Sanctification:

God created human being in His own image and likeness BUT MAN IS NOT GOD
Man is a creature of GOD and remains a creature (an object/vessel of use for GOD to glorify HIMSELF) NOT FOR HIM TO BE A GOD


But in creating man in His own image; Man is like a container carrying a content
The content that man carries is GOD
which differentiates man from every other creature
this is what makes man to be eternal like GOD
being eternal is that man has a soul and a spirit like GOD
which does not die by biological death but lives-on after biological death either with eternal life in Heaven with God or eternal death in hell-fire(the eternal place/position of God’s wrath)
Hence man is a spirit which has a soul but dwells in a mortal-body.


Man is not the physical or mortal-body that we see;
hence through His Spirit; He can enter the spiritual realm(Heaven/Hades/Hell-fire) even while he is still present in this physical body to fulfill some specific task or commune with the spirits just like Jesus physically hanging on the Cross but spiritually subjected into the eternal punishment of hell-fire for sin because He was carrying human sin upon his body
which some theologians call separation from the GOD-HEAD which is not actually true because if Jesus separated from the God-head in 1-second; He cannot be said to be GOD because God cannot be separated from HIS GOD-NATURE EVEN IN 1 SECOND BECAUSE HE REMAINS GOD FOREVER AND EVER
thus His Father called him GOD in Hebrews 1:8
thus
“But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.” (Hebrews 1:8 )


Another example is John the apostle in Revelation who was in the human body in the Island of Patmos and at the same time in Heaven seeing all that was happening there, wrote them down and shared with us as the book of revelation
also what Daniel saw and recorded in the prophetic book of Daniel
also Paul confirmed how he was carried into Heaven and shown mysteries that he was not permitted to communicate in human language.


The man that God created was sexual and remains sexual being
since every good and perfect gift comes from God; sexual-desire is holy, pure and beautiful in the eyes of God;
but it was meant only for married man and woman for procreation and pleasure
since it is God who gave man this gift whenever married couple are having sexual intimacy that is pure and holy; they are giving GOD PLEASURE PRIMARILY not even themselves primarily thus ” Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power: for *thou hast created all things*, and for thy pleasure they are(in existence/manifestation) and were created .” (Revelations 4:11 KJV)


Pure sexual intimacy for married couple sees both spouse as Christ body being poured into each other not just object of sexual-gratification or lust hence

“Then Tobias exhorted the virgin, and said to her: Sara, arise, and let us pray to God to day, and to morrow, and the next day: because for these three nights we are joined to God: and when the third night is over, we will be in our own wedlock.

5 For we are the children of saints, and we must not be joined together like heathens that know not God.

6 So they both arose, and prayed earnestly both together that health might be given them,

7 And Tobias said: Lord God of our father, may the heavens and the earth, and the sea, and the fountains, and the rivers, and all thy creatures that are in them, bless thee.

8 Thou madest Adam of the slime of the earth, and gavest him Eve for a helper.

9 And now, Lord, thou knowest, that not for fleshly lust do I take my sister to wife, but only for the love of posterity, in which thy name may be blessed for ever and ever.

10 Sara also said: Have mercy on us, O Lord, have mercy on us, and let us grow old both together in health .” (Tobit 8:4-10 DRA)

hence sexual penetration for born-again does not have anything to do with anal-sex, video-sex, oral-sex, condom, contraceptive-pills, withdrawal-methods, party, adultery, pornography, masturbation, e.t.c. but a sincere body to body; soul to soul and spirit to spirit POURING INTO EACH OTHER AS CHRIST POURED HIMSELF INTO US ON THE CROSS WITHOUT WITHHOLDING ANY PART OF HIMSELF FROM US just like GOD also gave HIS SON COMPLETELY TO US without withholding any part of HIM to us(human beings) this can be seen in the following scriptures

“He that spared(withheld) not even his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how hath he not also, with him, given us all things?” (Romans 8:32 DRA)

“Be subject to one another out of reverence for Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed One).

22 Wives, be subject (be submissive and adapt yourselves) to your own husbands as [a service] to the Lord.

23 For the husband is head of the wife as Christ is the Head of the church, Himself the Savior of [His] body.

24 As the church is subject to Christ, so let wives also be subject in everything to their husbands.

25 Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave Himself up for her,

26 So that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the Word,

27 That He might present the church to Himself in glorious splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such things [that she might be holy and faultless].

28 Even so husbands should love their wives as [being in a sense] their own bodies. He who loves his own wife loves himself.

29 For no man ever hated his own flesh(body), but nourishes and carefully protects and cherishes it, as Christ does the church,

30 Because we are members (parts) of His body.

31 For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother and shall be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.

32 This mystery is very great, but I speak concerning [the relation of] Christ and the church.

33 However, *let each man of you [without exception] love his wife as [being in a sense] his very own self; and let the wife see that she respects and reverences her husband [that she notices him, regards him, honors him, prefers him, venerates, and esteems him; and that she defers to him, praises him, and loves and admires him exceedingly] * .” (Ephesians 5: 21-33 AMPC)

If you read through this passage especially in the bolded words, you will see the sanctification of each others body, soul and spirit that takes place when couples joined in Christ just like Jesus death on the Cross and Resurrection merged/joined humanity in an intimate love affair with THE GOD-HEAD takes place
The fluid coming out of each others body is the washing of the water by the word
Each others body is the water;
each couples body being the body of Christ by faith is THE WORD.
Both the man and his wife wash each others soul, spirit and body IN CHRIST BY FAITH with the LIVING WORD OF GOD/ETERNAL LIFE dwelling consistently and progressively *fresh at each moment of sexual-intimacy by faith* and through your daily bible studies and quiet-time with the Holy Spirit *by faith* thus we are born-again by the living word of God which is incorruptible (1 Peter 1:23)


hence anything that we stop any of the couple from pouring into each others soul, spirit and body unreservedly is sin and unacceptable as strange fire on the marital intimacy/bed/altar for Christian couples just as I have earlier listed some of them above.
At the same time; this sexual intimacy between those who were joined by faith in Christ not by chance/priest/pastor/fake-prophecy/fake-vision/personal-sentiments/personal-selfishness is ANOTHER FORM OF PRAYER THAT GIVES GOD PLEASURE AND SANCTIFIES BOTH COUPLE AND THEIR CHILDREN/FAMILY AND THE WHOLE WORLD (Heavens/earth/underworld)

This is why the devil has introduced alot of these strange fires/ideas/styles in marriages to deprive God from receiving this pleasurable sacrifice and not allow couples to sanctify their soul, body and spirit as well as children and families and whole universe according to *the perfect-will of God for creating sexual desire in mankind and marriages between a man and a woman
hence all these sexual sins like homosexuality, lesbianism, abortions, contraceptive-pills, condoms, fornication, adultery, masturbation, pornography, video-sex, sex-toys, anal-sex, oral-sex, withdrawal-methods, abortions, bestiality, voyeurism, exhibitionism’s e.t.c.


The citation he gave about Paul calling people to become celibate is a misinterpretation because GOD SAW THAT IT WAS NOT GOOD FOR MAN TO BE ALONE BUT I WILL MAKE HIM A HELPER THAT IS SUITABLE FOR HIM
“Now the Lord God said, It is not good (sufficient, satisfactory) that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper (suitable, adapted, complementary) for him.” (Genesis 2:18 AMPC)
So marriage is good FROM GOD’S ORIGINAL PLAN.
Not minding all the unfruitful marriage or bad stories that is seen in marriages all over the world today
GODS WORD IS TRUTH every other thing that can be seen in the physical or spiritual realm remains the LIE
God meant marriage for sexual intimacy between man and woman thus

“And Adam gave names to all the livestock and to the birds of the air and to every [wild] beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found a helper meet (suitable, adapted, complementary) for him.

21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam; and while he slept, He took one of his ribs or a part of his side and closed up the [place with] flesh.

22 And the rib or part of his side which the Lord God had taken from the man He built up and made into a woman, and He brought her to the man.

23 Then Adam said, This [creature] is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of a man.

24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and shall become united and cleave to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.

25 And the man and his wife were both naked and were not embarrassed or ashamed in each other’s presence.” (Genesis 2: 20-25 AMPC)

Genesis 2:20 declares God’s observation that none of the other created things could be a helper to man,
then God created a woman to be his helper just like the Holy Spirit is our helper and GOD; a wife is a physical aspect of God’s Holy Spirit for a man so also is the husband towards his wife
verse-24 talks about both man and woman leaving their parents to CLEAVE IN THE FLESH; this is sexual intimacy for married couple. It is also means that *both intended couple should depart/surrender all the ideology concerning marriage which they acquired from their parents/lineage/customs/traditions/culture and submit to the Holy Spirit who will help them build their own NEW UNIQUE MATRIMONY IN CHRIST JESUS CRUCIFIED*
then verse-25 confirms it by saying both of them were naked in the presence of each other and they were not ashamed which defines both naked of body, soul and spirit between a man and a woman who are joined in marriage through faith in Jesus Christ Crucified
the man or woman should not keep secrets from each other unless what the Holy Spirit tells them to keep as secrets which is usually about THE MYSTERIES OF GOD AND THE GOSPELS FOR GOD’S DESTINED TIME not things concerning their marriage. None of the couple should also deny each other sexual intimacy.


Jesus being quoted as speaking about everybody remaining unmarried/eunuch is also a misinterpretation from some teachers according to Matthew 19:10-12
Jesus was not married because it was How He was born (agreed with the God-head) that when He takes human body; He will not engage in human marriage with a woman but A SPIRITUAL MARRIAGE with all human being through His death on the Cross and His Resurrection just as we saw in Ephesians 5 above
then here in these scriptures
“And I, if and when I am lifted up from the earth [on the cross], will draw and attract all men [Gentiles as well as Jews] to Myself .” (John 12:32 AMPC)

“And just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the desert [on a pole], so must [so it is necessary that] the Son of Man be lifted up [on the cross],

15 In order that everyone who believes in Him [who cleaves to Him, trusts Him, and relies on Him] may not perish, but have eternal life and [actually] live forever!

16 For God so greatly loved and dearly prized the world that He [even] gave up His only begotten (unique) Son, so that whoever believes in (trusts in, clings to, relies on) Him shall not perish (come to destruction, be lost) but have eternal (everlasting) life.

17 For God did not send the Son into the world in order to judge (to reject, to condemn, to pass sentence on) the world, but that the world might find salvation and be made safe and sound through Him.

18 He who believes in Him [who clings to, trusts in, relies on Him] is not judged [he who trusts in Him never comes up for judgment; for him there is no rejection, no condemnation—he incurs no damnation]; but he who does not believe (cleave to, rely on, trust in Him) is judged already [he has already been convicted and has already received his sentence] because he has not believed in and trusted in the name of the only begotten Son of God. [He is condemned for refusing to let his trust rest in Christ’s name.]” (John 3:14-18 AMPC)

Those who are born-eunuch are those whom God designed that they will not marry; which is the last category in that bible passage of Matthew 19:10-12 but yet they have the free-will to agree or disagree with God’s prefect-will for them *before the foundation of the world just like angels were not created to have sexual intimacy but they have free-will which some of them used to choose disobedience to God’s will in Genesis 6 hence they began to have sex with human females and got married to them and were dethroned from God’s service as angels
So also with men or women whom God has designed not to marry for the sake of His kingdom like Jesus, Paul, John, 4-daughters of Philip the deacon who were prophetess and unmarried in the early church in Acts 21:8-9
but it does not mean they do not have sexual organs or sexual desires or cannot have sex or that sex was a sin for them if they should marry.


Jesus is the 2nd person of the Trinity who created man; gave him marriage, sexual desires and sexual intimacy as A HOLY GIFT AND A PERFECT GIFT; He(Jesus) even said as a member of the God-head that He hates divorce (Malachi 2:14-16)
Prompted by the Holy Spirit, Solomon declared that married couple should drink from the bossom of their wives which is also confirming God’s approval for sexual intimacy between married couple (Proverbs 5:15-23, Song of Solomon 5:1)
The forbidden fruit in eden remains a literal word which connotes disobedience NOT SEX
Because Jesus declared in Matthew 5:27-28 that looking at a woman or man who is clothed/dressed with a desire to have sex with him/her is already considered sexual intimacy between the person having such imaginations and the person being imagined whether physically/videos/pictures/magazines/write-ups/novels/songs/images hence if you have such imaginations with someone who is not your legally married couple/spouse through faith in Christ Jesus Crucified it is considered sin in heaven/earth/underworld.


Then Adam and his wife had already cleaved to each others’ body as ONE in Genesis 2:24 then saw each others unclothedness not just imaginations and they were not ashamed/guilty nor had guilty conscience in Genesis 2:25 before they ate the forbidden fruit in Genesis 3:6-7.
hence the forbidden fruit is not sex
In Genesis 1:26-28; God made man and woman in His own image; gave them instruction to multiply and subdue the earth which means reproduction in human beings that is achievable through penetrative sexual intimacy between both the male and female human being AS GOD CAUSES SUCH ACT of total self giving of the soul, spirit and body to MANIFEST FERTILIZATION BETWEEN THE MALE SEX-CELL AND THE FEMALE SEX-CELL
thus
“And Adam knew Eve as his wife, and she became pregnant and bore Cain; and she said, I have gotten and gained a man with the help of the Lord.” (Genesis 4:1)


This (ידע)
is the Hebrew word for knowledge in Genesis 4:1
which also means expertise and know-how
apart from just knowledge which defines that both the man and the woman now knew how to use each others body and unclothedness and imaginations/inspirations of GOD’s life within them to obtain pregnancy and a child
hence those who are not married are not more holy than those who are married because they do not have sexual intimacy
all those who believe in Jesus Christ Crucified are SONS/EQUAL-MATES whether the Holy Spirit calls them to marriage or celibacy hence NO BELIEVER IS A GRAND-SON OR HAS LOWER-ANOINTING OR UNHOLY BECAUSE OF MATRIMONIAL SEXUAL INTIMACY;

thus “But as many as received him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.” (John 1:12-13 KJV)
Great Grace Brethren!!!
Please feel free to make your inputs, corrections, comments and observations
This doctrine is against the teachings of Jesus Christ. In the Kingdom of God, there are no other authorities, not even those created in the minds of men, over those who belong to Jesus Christ. There is one Master over those who follow Jesus Christ, and His name is Jesus Christ.
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 10:29am On Mar 17
"Then Paul replied, What do you mean by weeping and breaking my heart like this? For I hold myself in readiness not only to be arrested and bound and imprisoned at Jerusalem, but also [even] to die for the name of the Lord Jesus." (Acts. 21:13 ampc)
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 10:33am On Mar 17
Kobojunkie:
This doctrine is against the teachings of Jesus Christ. In the Kingdom of God, there are no other authorities, not even those created in the minds of men, over those who belong to Jesus Christ. There is one Master over those who follow Jesus Christ, and His name is Jesus Christ.

Please did you read this write-up at-all ?

if you did *would you be polite enough to bring out the sentences and phrases where your doctrinal correction is defining wrong teaching* ?
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 10:34am On Mar 17
"Another parable He set forth before them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field.
25 But while he was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed also darnel (weeds resembling wheat) among the wheat, and went on his way.
26 So when the plants sprouted and formed grain, the darnel (weeds) appeared also.
27 And the servants of the owner came to him and said, Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? Then how does it have darnel shoots in it?
28 He replied to them, An enemy has done this. The servants said to him, Then do you want us to go and weed them out?
29 But he said, No, lest in gathering the wild wheat (weeds resembling wheat), you root up the [true] wheat along with it.
30 Let them grow together until the harvest; and at harvest time I will say to the reapers, Gather the darnel first and bind it in bundles to be burned, but gather the wheat into my granary."
(Matthew 13:24-30 ampc)
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Kobojunkie: 7:33pm On Mar 17
ochibuogwu5:
Man is not the physical or mortal-body that we see; hence through His Spirit; He can enter the spiritual realm(Heaven/Hades/Hell-fire) even while he is still present in this physical body to fulfill some specific task or commune with the spirits just like Jesus physically hanging on the Cross but spiritually subjected into the eternal punishment of hell-fire for sin because He was carrying human sin upon his body which some theologians call separation from the GOD-HEAD which is not actually true because if Jesus separated from the God-head in 1-second; He cannot be said to be GOD because God cannot be separated from HIS GOD-NATURE EVEN IN 1 SECOND BECAUSE HE REMAINS GOD FOREVER AND EVER thus His Father called him GOD in Hebrews 1:8 thus

“But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.” (Hebrews 1:8 )
The statement in bold does not correctly fit any of the teachings of Jesus Christ Himself. I know it is related to what Peter said(1 Peter 2:23-25) but there is nowhere in His teaching that Jesus Christ said His body, which He gave us to eat, by the way, was to carry "our" sins.

1 Peter 2 vs 23-25 (ERV)
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23. People insulted him, but he did not insult them back. He suffered, but he did not threaten anyone. No, he let God take care of him. God is the one who judges rightly.
24. Christ carried our sins in his body on the cross. He did this so that we would stop living for sin and live for what is right. By his wounds, you were healed.
25. You were like sheep that went the wrong way. But now you have come back to the Shepherd and Protector of your lives.
Here Peter supposedly quoted the Prophet Isaiah, and upon close examination of the words of Isaiah, we find something very interesting.

Isaiah 53 vs 4-11 (ERV)
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4. The fact is, it was our suffering he took on himself; he bore our pain. But we thought that God was punishing him, that God was beating him for something he did.
5. But he was being punished for what we did. He was crushed because of our guilt. He took the punishment we deserved, and this brought us peace. We were healed because of his pain.
6. We had all wandered away like sheep. We had gone our own way. And yet the Lord put all our guilt on him.
7. He was treated badly, but he never protested. He said nothing, like a lamb being led away to be killed. He was like a sheep that makes no sound as its wool is being cut off. He never opened his mouth to defend himself.
8. He was taken away by force and judged unfairly. The people of his time did not even notice that he was killed.[b] But he was put to death[c] for the sins of his[d] people.
9. He had done no wrong to anyone. He had never even told a lie. But he was buried among the wicked. His tomb was with the rich.
10. But the Lord was pleased with this humble servant who suffered such pain.[e] Even after giving himself as an offering for sin, he will see his descendants and enjoy a long life. He will succeed in doing what the Lord wanted.
11. After his suffering he will see the light,[f] and he will be satisfied with what he experienced.
According to what Isaiah said, and what Peter was probably stating as well, Jesus Christ died for the sins of his people - the people of Israel at the time- not the world as we are popularly told. So, it seems Peter, was in fact speaking of Jesus Christ being crucified for the sins committed by His people against Him. undecided
ochibuogwu5:
Another example is John the apostle in Revelation who was in the human body in the Island of Patmos and at the same time in Heaven seeing all that was happening there, wrote them down and shared with us as the book of revelation
also what Daniel saw and recorded in the prophetic book of Daniel
also Paul confirmed how he was carried into Heaven and shown mysteries that he was not permitted to communicate in human language.
The man that God created was sexual and remains sexual being since every good and perfect gift comes from God; sexual-desire is holy, pure and beautiful in the eyes of God; but it was meant only for married man and woman for procreation and pleasure since it is God who gave man this gift whenever married couple are having sexual intimacy that is pure and holy; they are giving GOD PLEASURE PRIMARILY not even themselves primarily thus ” Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power: for *thou hast created all things*, and for thy pleasure they are(in existence/manifestation) and were created .” (Revelations 4:11 KJV)
Really! shocked
Sex between a married couples is "pure" and "holy"? According to whom? undecided
Is sex between married couples who also happen to be unbelievers also "pure" and "holy"? undecided
Is it the mention of the word "Pleasure" in the translation you have there that leads you to include Revelations 4 vs 11 where sex is concerned? undecided
ochibuogwu5:
Pure sexual intimacy for married couple sees both spouse as Christ body being poured into each other not just object of sexual-gratification or lust hence
BULLSHEET!!
Jesus Christ never taught any of this to His followers. Instead according to the teachings of Jesus Christ, there are no marriages in the Kingdom of Heaven. So these fantastical ideas have nothing to do with the Truth of Jesus Christ. undecided
ochibuogwu5:
“Then Tobias exhorted the virgin, and said to her: Sara, arise, and let us pray to God to day, and to morrow, and the next day: because for these three nights we are joined to God: and when the third night is over, we will be in our own wedlock.
5 For we are the children of saints, and we must not be joined together like heathens that know not God.
6 So they both arose, and prayed earnestly both together that health might be given them,
7 And Tobias said: Lord God of our father, may the heavens and the earth, and the sea, and the fountains, and the rivers, and all thy creatures that are in them, bless thee.
8 Thou madest Adam of the slime of the earth, and gavest him Eve for a helper.
9 And now, Lord, thou knowest, that not for fleshly lust do I take my sister to wife, but only for the love of posterity, in which thy name may be blessed for ever and ever.
10 Sara also said: Have mercy on us, O Lord, have mercy on us, and let us grow old both together in health .” (Tobit 8:4-10 DRA)

hence sexual penetration for born-again does not have anything to do with anal-sex, video-sex, oral-sex, condom, contraceptive-pills, withdrawal-methods, party, adultery, pornography, masturbation, e.t.c. but a sincere body to body; soul to soul and spirit to spirit POURING INTO EACH OTHER AS CHRIST POURED HIMSELF INTO US ON THE CROSS WITHOUT WITHHOLDING ANY PART OF HIMSELF FROM US just like GOD also gave HIS SON COMPLETELY TO US without withholding any part of HIM to us(human beings) this can be seen in the following scriptures
All this has absolutely nothing to do with the teachings of Jesus Christ but instead the doctrines and traditions of men which Jesus Christ condemned as lies that have no place in His Kingdom.
According to Jesus Christ, your marriages and delusions about them are of this world and has nothing to do with the Kingdom of Heaven and the Truth of God which He commands His followers to accept and obey.undecided

ochibuogwu5:
“He that spared(withheld) not even his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how hath he not also, with him, given us all things?” (Romans 8:32 DRA)

“Be subject to one another out of reverence for Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed One).

22 Wives, be subject (be submissive and adapt yourselves) to your own husbands as [a service] to the Lord.

23 For the husband is head of the wife as Christ is the Head of the church, Himself the Savior of [His] body.

24 As the church is subject to Christ, so let wives also be subject in everything to their husbands.

25 Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave Himself up for her,

26 So that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the Word,

27 That He might present the church to Himself in glorious splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such things [that she might be holy and faultless].

28 Even so husbands should love their wives as [being in a sense] their own bodies. He who loves his own wife loves himself.

29 For no man ever hated his own flesh(body), but nourishes and carefully protects and cherishes it, as Christ does the church,

30 Because we are members (parts) of His body.

31 For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother and shall be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.

32 This mystery is very great, but I speak concerning [the relation of] Christ and the church.

33 However, *let each man of you [without exception] love his wife as [being in a sense] his very own self; and let the wife see that she respects and reverences her husband [that she notices him, regards him, honors him, prefers him, venerates, and esteems him; and that she defers to him, praises him, and loves and admires him exceedingly] * .” (Ephesians 5: 21-33 AMPC)
These teachings attributed to Paul in Ephesians 5 have absolutely nothing to do with the teachings of Jesus Christ, the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven which he, Paul, was commanded, as are every other follower of Jesus Christ, to preach to the world.

Jesus Christ warned vehemently against these doctrines and commandments of men, which are formed by men for the propagation of lies in the name of God.

Mark 7 vs 1-13 (ERV)
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1. Now when the Pharisees gathered to him, with some of the scribes who had come from Jerusalem,
2. they saw that some of his disciples ate with hands that were defiled, that is, unwashed.
3. (For the Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat unless they wash their hands properly,[a] holding to the tradition of the elders,
4. and when they come from the marketplace, they do not eat unless they wash. And there are many other traditions that they observe, such as the washing of cups and pots and copper vessels and dining couches.[c])
[b] 5.
And the Pharisees and the scribes asked him, “Why do your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat with defiled hands?”
6. And he said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written,
“‘This people honors me with their lips,
but their heart is far from me;

7. in vain do they worship me,
teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’


8. You leave the commandment of God and hold to the (doctrines and rules)** tradition of men.”
9. And he said to them, “You have a fine way of rejecting the commandment of God in order to establish your tradition!
10. For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘Whoever reviles father or mother must surely die.’
11. But you say, ‘If a man tells his father or his mother, “Whatever you would have gained from me is Corban”’ (that is, given to God)[d]—
12. then you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or mother,
13. thus making void the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And many such things you do.”
** substituted from another Bible translation for better understanding of what is impacted
The consequence of following after these doctrines and traditions are detrimental to the very soul of the ones who adopt and follow them.

ochibuogwu5:
If you read through this passage especially in the bolded words, you will see the sanctification of each others body, soul and spirit that takes place when couples joined in Christ just like Jesus death on the Cross and Resurrection merged/joined humanity in an intimate love affair with THE GOD-HEAD takes place. The fluid coming out of each others body is the washing of the water by the word. Each others body is the water; each couples body being the body of Christ by faith is THE WORD.
Both the man and his wife wash each others soul, spirit and body IN CHRIST BY FAITH with the LIVING WORD OF GOD/ETERNAL LIFE dwelling consistently and progressively *fresh at each moment of sexual-intimacy by faith* and through your daily bible studies and quiet-time with the Holy Spirit *by faith* thus we are born-again by the living word of God which is incorruptible (1 Peter 1:23)
Jesus Christ called each of those who will follow Him to deny self, and bear own cross. He even declares that He has come to separate wives from their husbands, fathers from their sons and daughters, mothers from their daughters-in-law, etc.

Matthew 10 vs 34-39
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34. “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace. I came to bring trouble.
35. I have come to make this happen:
‘A son will turn against his father.
A daughter will turn against her mother.
A daughter-in-law will turn against her mother-in-law.

36. Even members of your own family will be your enemies.’
37. “Those who love their father or mother more than they love me are not worthy of me. And those who love their son or daughter more than they love me are not worthy of me.
38. Those who will not accept the cross that is given to them when they follow me are not worthy of me.
39. Those who try to keep the life they have will lose it. But those who give up their life for me will find true life.
If we each have to bear our own cross - never the cross of others, not even that which belongs to our offspring - that ought to clue you into the fact that what you have above goes against the very core of His teaching on being worthy of Him. In your allusion there a man who bears his wife's cross and vice versa... that contradicts what Jesus Christ declared as far as His New Covenant is concerned.
ochibuogwu5:
hence anything that we stop any of the couple from pouring into each others soul, spirit and body unreservedly is sin and unacceptable as strange fire on the marital intimacy/bed/altar for Christian couples just as I have earlier listed some of them above.
At the same time; this sexual intimacy between those who were joined by faith in Christ not by chance/priest/pastor/fake-prophecy/fake-vision/personal-sentiments/personal-selfishness is ANOTHER FORM OF PRAYER THAT GIVES GOD PLEASURE AND SANCTIFIES BOTH COUPLE AND THEIR CHILDREN/FAMILY AND THE WHOLE WORLD (Heavens/earth/underworld)
Again, this teaching has nothing to do with the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven as taught as Jesus Christ which can be found and confirmed through careful reading of the 4 Gospels where the teachings are written.
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by Kobojunkie: 7:38pm On Mar 17
ochibuogwu5:
This is why the devil has introduced alot of these strange fires/ideas/styles in marriages to deprive God from receiving this pleasurable sacrifice and not allow couples to sanctify their soul, body and spirit as well as children and families and whole universe according to *the perfect-will of God for creating sexual desire in mankind and marriages between a man and a woman
hence all these sexual sins like homosexuality, lesbianism, abortions, contraceptive-pills, condoms, fornication, adultery, masturbation, pornography, video-sex, sex-toys, anal-sex, oral-sex, withdrawal-methods, abortions, bestiality, voyeurism, exhibitionism’s e.t.c.
The above also has nothing to do with the teachings of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ taught His followers instead that what is Sin is lust, not this list that you have up here.

Matthew 5 vs 27-30
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27. “You have heard that it was said, ‘You must not commit adultery.’[e]
28. But I tell you that if a man looks at a woman and wants to sin sexually with her, he has already committed that sin with her in his mind.
29. If your right eye makes you sin, take it out and throw it away. It is better to lose one part of your body than to have your whole body thrown into hell.
30. If your right hand makes you sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.
So when you preach against homosexuality, lesbianism, abortions, contraceptive-pills, condoms, fornication, adultery, masturbation, pornography, video-sex, sex-toys, anal-sex, oral-sex, withdrawal-methods, abortions, bestiality, voyeurism, exhibitionism, you are not in fact preaching what Jesus Christ in fact taught you either. Lust is what Jesus Christ declared as sin in His New Covenant, and according to Jesus Christ, the only way around sin, every sin that He declared in His New Covenant is to accept(trust) and obey His commandments/teachings.
ochibuogwu5:
The citation he gave about Paul calling people to become celibate is a misinterpretation because GOD SAW THAT IT WAS NOT GOOD FOR MAN TO BE ALONE BUT I WILL MAKE HIM A HELPER THAT IS SUITABLE FOR HIM
“Now the Lord God said, It is not good (sufficient, satisfactory) that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper (suitable, adapted, complementary) for him.” (Genesis 2:18 AMPC)
So marriage is good FROM GOD’S ORIGINAL PLAN.
Not minding all the unfruitful marriage or bad stories that is seen in marriages all over the world today
GODS WORD IS TRUTH every other thing that can be seen in the physical or spiritual realm remains the LIE
God meant marriage for sexual intimacy between man and woman thus
According to the teachings of Jesus Christ, the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven itself, it is ok to choose to be single if you want to.

Matthew 19 vs 10-12
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10. The followers said to Jesus, “If that is the only reason a man can divorce his wife, it is better not to marry.”
11. He answered, “This statement is true for some, but not for everyone—only for those who have been given this gift.
12. There are different reasons why some men don’t marry. Some were born without the ability to produce children. Others were made that way later in life. And others have given up marriage because of God’s kingdom. This is for anyone who is able to accept it.”
The key here is to resist every urge to place "shackles" on ourselves where God has not commanded any.
ochibuogwu5:
“And Adam gave names to all the livestock and to the birds of the air and to every [wild] beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found a helper meet (suitable, adapted, complementary) for him.
21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam; and while he slept, He took one of his ribs or a part of his side and closed up the [place with] flesh.
22 And the rib or part of his side which the Lord God had taken from the man He built up and made into a woman, and He brought her to the man.
23 Then Adam said, This [creature] is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of a man.
24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and shall become united and cleave to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
25 And the man and his wife were both naked and were not embarrassed or ashamed in each other’s presence.” (Genesis 2: 20-25 AMPC)

Genesis 2:20 declares God’s observation that none of the other created things could be a helper to man,
then God created a woman to be his helper just like the Holy Spirit is our helper and GOD; a wife is a physical aspect of God’s Holy Spirit for a man so also is the husband towards his wife
verse-24 talks about both man and woman leaving their parents to CLEAVE IN THE FLESH; this is sexual intimacy for married couple. It is also means that *both intended couple should depart/surrender all the ideology concerning marriage which they acquired from their parents/lineage/customs/traditions/culture and submit to the Holy Spirit who will help them build their own NEW UNIQUE MATRIMONY IN CHRIST JESUS CRUCIFIED*
then verse-25 confirms it by saying both of them were naked in the presence of each other and they were not ashamed which defines both naked of body, soul and spirit between a man and a woman who are joined in marriage through faith in Jesus Christ Crucified
the man or woman should not keep secrets from each other unless what the Holy Spirit tells them to keep as secrets which is usually about THE MYSTERIES OF GOD AND THE GOSPELS FOR GOD’S DESTINED TIME not things concerning their marriage. None of the couple should also deny each other sexual intimacy.
There is no such thing as "Matrimony in Christ Jesus Crucified" - that is just an idea created in the minds of men to deceive them away from the truth of Jesus Christ. Again, Jesus Christ made it more than clear that your marriages are not of His Kingdom but of this world. undecided
In fact, Jesus Christ declares that your family members will become your enemies in His New Covenant. Your wife and Children, Mother, Father, Brother, Sister, etc. are your enemies.

Matthew 10 vs 34-39
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34. “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace. I came to bring trouble.
35. I have come to make this happen:
‘A son will turn against his father.
A daughter will turn against her mother.
A daughter-in-law will turn against her mother-in-law.

36. Even members of your own family will be your enemies.’
37. “Those who love their father or mother more than they love me are not worthy of me. And those who love their son or daughter more than they love me are not worthy of me.
38. Those who will not accept the cross that is given to them when they follow me are not worthy of me.
39. Those who try to keep the life they have will lose it. But those who give up their life for me will find true life.
Whatever you do or not do in your marriages, have nothing to do with the Kingdom of Heaven... i.e. your marriages are no different from the marriages of those who belong in this world because it is all of this world - in the Kingdom of Heaven, your marriages mean nothing because your family there are instead those who accept and do the Will of God. undecided
The New Covenant which is the Law as far as the Kingdom of Heaven is concerned does not factor your marriage in any way. You are simply an individual in this agreement, fully responsible for the fate of your mind, body, and soul - you have no one to "help" you get to Heaven, and certainly no one to carry your cross for you. You carry your own cross and follow Jesus Christ in much the same way your spouse, and your children each carry their own cross in order to follow Him, Jesus Christ.undecided
ochibuogwu5:
Jesus being quoted as speaking about everybody remaining unmarried/eunuch is also a misinterpretation from some teachers according to Matthew 19:10-12
Jesus was not married because it was How He was born (agreed with the God-head) that when He takes human body; He will not engage in human marriage with a woman but A SPIRITUAL MARRIAGE with all human being through His death on the Cross and His Resurrection just as we saw in Ephesians 5 above
then here in these scriptures
“And I, if and when I am lifted up from the earth [on the cross], will draw and attract all men [Gentiles as well as Jews] to Myself .” (John 12:32 AMPC)
“And just as Moses lifted up the serpent in the desert [on a pole], so must [so it is necessary that] the Son of Man be lifted up [on the cross],
15 In order that everyone who believes in Him [who cleaves to Him, trusts Him, and relies on Him] may not perish, but have eternal life and [actually] live forever!
16 For God so greatly loved and dearly prized the world that He [even] gave up His only begotten (unique) Son, so that whoever believes in (trusts in, clings to, relies on) Him shall not perish (come to destruction, be lost) but have eternal (everlasting) life.
17 For God did not send the Son into the world in order to judge (to reject, to condemn, to pass sentence on) the world, but that the world might find salvation and be made safe and sound through Him.
18 He who believes in Him [who clings to, trusts in, relies on Him] is not judged [he who trusts in Him never comes up for judgment; for him there is no rejection, no condemnation—he incurs no damnation]; but he who does not believe (cleave to, rely on, trust in Him) is judged already [he has already been convicted and has already received his sentence] because he has not believed in and trusted in the name of the only begotten Son of God. [He is condemned for refusing to let his trust rest in Christ’s name.]” (John 3:14-18 AMPC)
What? shocked
Jesus Christ's choice to refuse marriage has nothing to do with His needing to be lifted up. He never told us exactly why He did not get married, but He never told it was because of your idea of a "Spiritual marriage" either.
So let's not jump to put words in His mouth there. undecided
ochibuogwu5:
Those who are born-eunuch are those whom God designed that they will not marry; which is the last category in that bible passage of Matthew 19:10-12 but yet they have the free-will to agree or disagree with God’s prefect-will for them *before the foundation of the world just like angels were not created to have sexual intimacy but they have free-will which some of them used to choose disobedience to God’s will in Genesis 6 hence they began to have sex with human females and got married to them and were dethroned from God’s service as angels
So also with men or women whom God has designed not to marry for the sake of His kingdom like Jesus, Paul, John, 4-daughters of Philip the deacon who were prophetess and unmarried in the early church in Acts 21:8-9 but it does not mean they do not have sexual organs or sexual desires or cannot have sex or that sex was a sin for them if they should marry.
Now, as for what Jesus Christ said about Eunuchs, it is more than clear from the passage that Jesus Christ left the choice of marriage as far as His followers are concerned to each individual.

Matthew 19 vs 10-12
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10. The followers said to Jesus, “If that is the only reason a man can divorce his wife, it is better not to marry.”
11. He answered, “This statement is true for some, but not for everyone—only for those who have been given this gift.
12. There are different reasons why some men don’t marry. Some were born without the ability to produce children. Others were made that way later in life. And others have given up marriage because of God’s kingdom. This is for anyone who is able to accept it.”
Also, your claim that the 4 prophetesses mentioned in the Book of Acts were somehow eunuchs is false. Jesus Christ made it clear there are different reasons why individuals may choose to be single for a period or for life, and that is a choice for those who are able to accept such. God, does not discriminate based on the basis of marital status... that means nothing in the Kingdom of Heaven. undecided
ochibuogwu5:

ochibuogwu5:
Jesus is the 2nd person of the Trinity who created man; gave him marriage, sexual desires and sexual intimacy as A HOLY GIFT AND A PERFECT GIFT; He(Jesus) even said as a member of the God-head that He hates divorce (Malachi 2:14-16)
Prompted by the Holy Spirit, Solomon declared that married couple should drink from the bossom of their wives which is also confirming God’s approval for sexual intimacy between married couple (Proverbs 5:15-23, Song of Solomon 5:1)
The forbidden fruit in eden remains a literal word which connotes disobedience NOT SEX
Because Jesus declared in Matthew 5:27-28 that looking at a woman or man who is clothed/dressed with a desire to have sex with him/her is already considered sexual intimacy between the person having such imaginations and the person being imagined whether physically/videos/pictures/magazines/write-ups/novels/songs/images hence if you have such imaginations with someone who is not your legally married couple/spouse through faith in Christ Jesus Crucified it is considered sin in heaven/earth/underworld.
The Trinity doctrine does not align with the Gospels of the Kingdom of Heaven as taught by Jesus Christ. undecided
Marriage, like divorce, has nothing to do with the Gospel of Kingdom of Heaven but are both of this world. These are things that the people of this world. undecided
I am surprised that you include the writings of Solomon, a man who infamously had 700 wives and 300 concubines. Were Solomon's encounters with his many wives and concubines also "pure" and "holy", according to your claim that sex between "married" couples that were designed so for God. grin
ochibuogwu5:
Then Adam and his wife had already cleaved to each others’ body as ONE in Genesis 2:24 then saw each others unclothedness not just imaginations and they were not ashamed/guilty nor had guilty conscience in Genesis 2:25 before they ate the forbidden fruit in Genesis 3:6-7.
hence the forbidden fruit is not sex
In Genesis 1:26-28; God made man and woman in His own image; gave them instruction to multiply and subdue the earth which means reproduction in human beings that is achievable through penetrative sexual intimacy between both the male and female human being AS GOD CAUSES SUCH ACT of total self giving of the soul, spirit and body to MANIFEST FERTILIZATION BETWEEN THE MALE SEX-CELL AND THE FEMALE SEX-CELL
thus
“And Adam knew Eve as his wife, and she became pregnant and bore Cain; and she said, I have gotten and gained a man with the help of the Lord.” (Genesis 4:1)
Ofcourse it is not sex.
ochibuogwu5:
This (ידע) is the Hebrew word for knowledge in Genesis 4:1 which also means expertise and know-how apart from just knowledge which defines that both the man and the woman now knew how to use each others body and unclothedness and imaginations/inspirations of GOD’s life within them to obtain pregnancy and a child
hence those who are not married are not more holy than those who are married because they do not have sexual intimacy
all those who believe in Jesus Christ Crucified are SONS/EQUAL-MATES whether the Holy Spirit calls them to marriage or celibacy hence NO BELIEVER IS A GRAND-SON OR HAS LOWER-ANOINTING OR UNHOLY BECAUSE OF MATRIMONIAL SEXUAL INTIMACY;
thus “But as many as received him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.” (John 1:12-13 KJV)
Great Grace Brethren!!!
Please feel free to make your inputs, corrections, comments and observations
God never declared that those who are married are more "holy" in any way. After Adam's fall, condemned to perish by God, did his knowing his wife makes him, Adam, "holy" or "pure" as far as God is concerned? No, it does not! undecided
Adam and Eve remained sinners condemned to die for their sins. No matter how many times they copulated during their almost 1000 years on this earth, they were never "holy" and "pure" in the eyes of God. undecided
Again, this doctrine that sex between "married" couples is "holy" and "pure" has absolutely nothing to do with the Gospel of Kingdom of Heaven as taught by Jesus Christ.undecided
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 9:38pm On Mar 17
"At that time Jesus began to say, I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth [and I acknowledge openly and joyfully to Your honor], that You have hidden these things from the wise and clever and learned, and revealed them to babies [to the childish, untaught, and unskilled].

26 Yes, Father, [I praise You that] such was Your gracious will and good pleasure.

27 All things have been entrusted and delivered to Me by My Father; and no one fully knows and accurately understands the Son except the Father, and no one fully knows and accurately understands the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son deliberately wills to make Him known."
(Matthew 11:25-27 ampc)
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 9:53pm On Mar 17
"At that time Jesus began to say, I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth [and I acknowledge openly and joyfully to Your honor], that You have hidden these things from the wise and clever and learned, and revealed them to babies [to the childish, untaught, and unskilled].

26 Yes, Father, [I praise You that] such was Your gracious will and good pleasure.

27 All things have been entrusted and delivered to Me by My Father; and no one fully knows and accurately understands the Son except the Father, and no one fully knows and accurately understands the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son deliberately wills to make Him known.

28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy-laden and overburdened, and I will cause you to rest. [I will ease and relieve and refresh your souls.]

29 Take My yoke upon you and learn of Me, for I am gentle (meek) and humble (lowly) in heart, and you will find rest (relief and ease and refreshment and recreation and blessed quiet) for your souls.

30 For My yoke is wholesome (useful, [t]good—not harsh, hard, sharp, or pressing, but comfortable, gracious, and pleasant), and My burden is light and easy to be borne." (Matthew 11:25-30 ampc)
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 11:15am On Mar 18
May the God of your hope so fill you with all joy and peace in believing [through the experience of your faith in Jesus Christ Crucified] that by the power of the Holy Spirit you may abound and be overflowing (bubbling over) with hope in Jesus name. Amen. (Romans 15:13 )
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 11:19am On Mar 18
"Now I passed by you again and looked upon you; behold, you were maturing and at the time for love, and I spread My skirt over you and covered your unclothedness. Yes, I plighted My troth to you and entered into a covenant with you, says the Lord, and you became Mine.
9 Then I washed you with water; yes, I thoroughly washed away your [clinging] blood from you and I anointed you with oil.
10 I clothed you also with embroidered cloth and shod you with [fine seal] leather; and I girded you about with fine linen and covered you with silk.
11 I decked you also with ornaments and I put bracelets on your wrists and a chain on your neck.
12 And I put a ring on your nostril and earrings in your ears and a beautiful crown upon your head!
13 Thus you were decked with gold and silver, and your raiment was of fine linen and silk and embroidered cloth; you ate fine flour and honey and oil. And you were exceedingly beautiful and you prospered into royal estate.
14 And your renown went forth among the nations for your beauty, for it was perfect through My majesty and splendor which I had put upon you, says the Lord God." (Ezekiel 16:8-14 ampc)
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 11:34am On Mar 18
"Now faith is the assurance (the confirmation, the title deed) of the things [we] hope for, being the proof of things [we] do not see and the conviction of their reality [faith perceiving as real fact what is not revealed to the senses]." (Hebrews 11:1 ampc)


Faith does not make things easy rather it makes things possible. From the moment that you get a revelation from the Holy Spirit till the moment it comes to physical manifestations there are going to be perils/trying times which might even deteriorate further as we press-on in prayers but once we hold unto the correct mindset that warfare in union with Christ Jesus Crucified *is our kingdom lifestyle*; we shall remain focused on the Victory already achieved on the Cross of Calvary about 2021 years ago ON OUR BEHALF BY JESUS CHRIST then press-on even in the midst of deeper deterioration while THE LIGHT OF CHRIST SHINES AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.
ALLELUIA!!!

"Examine and test and evaluate your own selves to see whether you are holding to your faith and showing the proper fruits of it. Test and prove yourselves [not Christ]. Do you not yourselves realize and know [thoroughly by an ever-increasing experience] that Jesus Christ is in you—unless you are [counterfeits] disapproved on trial and rejected?" (2 Corinthians 13: 5 ampc)


May the God of your hope so fill you with all joy and peace in believing [through the experience of your faith in Jesus Christ Crucified] that by the power of the Holy Spirit you may abound and be overflowing (bubbling over) with hope in Jesus name. Amen. (Romans 15:13 )

"It is the Holy Spirit Who gives life [He is the Life-giver]; the flesh conveys no benefit whatever [there is no profit in it]. The words (truths) that I have been speaking to you are spirit and life."
(John 6:63 ampc)
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 12:23pm On Mar 18
"It is the SPIRIT that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the WORDS that I speak unto you, they are SPIRIT, and they are LIFE."
(John 6:63 KJV)
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 6:46pm On Mar 18
"When we arrived in Jerusalem, the brethren received and welcomed us gladly.

18 On the next day Paul went in with us to [see] James, and all the elders of the church were present [also].

19 After saluting them, Paul gave a detailed account of the things God had done among the Gentiles through his ministry.

20 And upon hearing it, they adored and exalted and praised and thanked God. And they said to [Paul], You see, brother, how many thousands of believers there are among the Jews, and all of them are enthusiastic upholders of the [Mosaic] Law.

21 Now they have been informed about you that you continually teach all the Jews who live among the Gentiles to turn back from and forsake Moses, advising them not to circumcise their children or pay any attention to the observance of the [Mosaic] customs.

22 What then [is best that] should be done? A multitude will come together, for they will surely hear that you have arrived.

23 Therefore do just what we tell you. With us are four men who have taken a vow upon themselves.

24 Take these men and purify yourself along with them and pay their expenses [for the temple offering], so that they may have their heads shaved. Thus everybody will know that there is no truth in what they have been told about you, but that you yourself walk in observance of the Law.

25 But with regard to the Gentiles who have believed (adhered to, trusted in, and relied on Christ), we have sent them a letter with our decision that they should keep themselves free from anything that has been sacrificed to idols and from [tasting] blood and [eating the meat of animals] which have been strangled and from all impurity and sexual immorality.

26 Then Paul took the [four] men with him and the following day [he went through the rites of] purifying himself along with them. And they entered the temple to give notice when the days of purification (the ending of each vow) would be fulfilled and the usual offering could be presented on behalf of each of them."
(Acts 21:17-26 ampc)
Re: The Christian Chatbox ( sticky) by ochibuogwu5: 6:49pm On Mar 18
"Another story by way of comparison He set forth before them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man took and sowed in his field.

32 Of all the seeds it is the smallest, but when it has grown it is the largest of the garden herbs and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and find shelter in its branches.

33 He told them another parable: The kingdom of heaven is like leaven (sour dough) which a woman took and covered over in three measures of meal or flour till all of it was leavened.

34 These things all taken together Jesus said to the crowds in parables; indeed, without a parable He said nothing to them.

35 This was in fulfillment of what was spoken by the prophet: I will open My mouth in parables; I will utter things that have been hidden since the foundation of the world."
(Matthew 13:31-35 ampc)

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