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Foreign Affairs › Re: Zelensky Rejected Peace Offer Days Before Russian Offensive – WSJ by 11doubledee: 12:27pm On Apr 04, 2022
Faiththatworks:
I'm starting to get really irritated by the Russian terrorists on Nairaland,these Russian terrorists need psychological evaluation.
Putin is a mad man,very delusional and a crazy despot that needs to visit a psychiatrist as early as tomorrow morning.
I have tried to balance my information on this mad war Russia started in Ukraine,but the more I try to be rational,the more I see why Putin is nothing but a mad man.
I don't understand why mad man Putin will not allow Ukrainians determine their own destiny,why should Russia,another foreign country believe it has the power to determine the political direction of another sovereign country.
Why not allow hold a referendum in Ukraine,that will be conducted by a neutral body like the United Nations to known if the citizens of Ukraine want to join NATO or the European Union.
That was the most sensical thing to do before Mad Man Putin rolled in the tanks.
I'm very happy the whole world has finally demystified Mad Man Putin,he's nothing but a delusional,mad,crazy,psyocotic kleptomaniac that will be killed in Russia by his own generals.
And for his mad cretins on Nairaland,the Almighty God will allow you experience what the citizens of Ukraine are suffering in the hands of the Russia.
The pain and the agony of the Ukrainians will be your portion for all these crazy propaganda you push out every day.
If it doesn't suit their narrative,it becomes western propaganda.
Politics › Re: Can You Vote For A Woman As President Of Nigeria? by 11doubledee: 10:38am On Apr 02, 2022
Why not,the men that have been there since 1960 what have they done.
Foreign Affairs › Re: 'Russia Wants To Create North And South Korea In Ukraine' by 11doubledee: 3:34pm On Mar 27, 2022
Oshodipikin:
Don't mind the idiots, instead of them to stay calm and et
their akpu and ogbono with ease, they like to spew
gilberish... .......
When I read the comments of some children who knows
nothing about life not to talk of war here on nairaland, I laff
in
swahili...
NATO IS AVOIDING WAR WITH RUSSIA FOR YOUR SAKE.
NATO's decision to not close the sky over Ukraine is correct.
A shooting war between Russia and NATO should be
avoided
as much as possible and the way the US has been evading
that confrontation is simply the right thing to do.If you think
it
is cowardice, it is because you don't know and this post will
brief you.
Let me set it out in a very brief way. There are three types of
wars:
1. Conventional war - which is fought according to the rules
of war: Don't kill civilians and children, don't hit civilian
infrastructure, don't shoot surrendering enemy soldiers and
PoWs, etc.
2. Total war - which Russia seems to be fighting in Ukraine
right now and which it fought against Chechnya in Grozny. In
a total war, you just kill everybody you see and destroy
everything on your way.
3. Nuclear war.
On a normal day, Russia will fall quickly to NATO if NATO
engages it in a conventional or a total war and Putin has
admitted that much in a speech recently. There is no contest
in that. NATO's firepower is extensive and its generals are
top
level.
However, the mismatch will force Russia to quickly resort to
'final-solution' tactics while it can - it will launch its arsenal
of
nuclear weapons. Lets be quickly reminded that since the
1970s, both the West and Russia have thousands of nuclear
tipped missiles already programmed to hit targets in all
major
cities on each other's soil. With just the press of a button,
those missiles will fly out and head for their targets.
But there are difficulties. Both sides have watchmen that are
not sleeping. Every inch of Russian territory is under a 24/7
scan for missile launch by the West, using flare and heat
detection satellites. Russia has the same system.
The moment a rocket motor ignites (most missiles are
powered by rocket motors. Cruise missiles use air-breathing
jet engines - pretty much the same used by aeroplanes, but
they could be ramjets or jets with afterburners. Cruise
missiles are usually called precision guided weapons), they
know in the West. These missile scouts will start to track
the
missile or missiles and note their number, velocity and
heading. They have about 10 minutes to confirm and
reconfirm that missiles are being launched against the West.
In this case they will mostly be ICBMs (Intercontinental
Ballistic Missiles). Well, despite the heavy name, they are
actually simple orbital rockets that can get into orbit and
then
re-enter the earth at the appropriate location - above their
targets. At this point, they will release their thermonuclear
warheads or bombs (all modern nuclear bombs carry
thermonuclear warheads, that is, warheads that uses a small
hydrogen bomb to initiate a chain reaction in its main fission
bomb of Plutonium or Uranium). These warheads are shaped
like cones and they are about 1.2m in height with a base
diameter of about 800mm.
The real active ingredient, Uranium or Plutonium inside the
conical device is not bigger than a football but they are
packed with the horrendous power of creation itself, the
power of the nucleus of an atom called the Strong Force.
Two things will then happen in line with strictly established
procedures it call it Battle Order.
Once a missile attack is detected, the US will immediately
move it's president, his family, Pentagon chiefs and a few
citizens into a bunker that is about 2 kilometers below the
ground and under a mountain. It is suspended upon springs
so it can withstand tectonic forces from a nuclear blast on
the surface. The bunker contains provisions for two years to
sustain the occupants. (I have seen the image somewhere
about 25 years ago in maybe Times Magazine). Reporters
taken there were blindfolded and flown for hours so they will
not have a clear sense of direction. The location is totally
secret but it is suspected that it is Nevada. It was not dug
out
directly but a lateral tunnel was created several miles away
to
this subterranean site.
1. The West will launch countermeasures at these warheads.
(Usually, they will be 13 to 17 on each ICBM and at this
stage, they are in their terminal altitude in space). This is the
threat level the American THAAD anti-missile system is
designed to contain. It will fly into space and try to steer kill
vehicles into those warheads and of course, the success
rate
will understandably only be partial. Some will end up
successfully re-entering the earth and dive (under zero
power) for their targets. At this point, the Patriot system will
come into action and try to swat the warheads. The Patriot
complex deals with missiles within the atmosphere.
2. Simultaneously NATO will give orders for its own missile
launches and within minutes, you will see missiles rise from
silos and from submarines heading East to attack preset
targets. B-52s ('Stratofortress'), B1, ('Spirit') and B2 ('Bones')
-
all long range bombers will take off from the US, Germany
and probably Japan armed with hydrogen and Plutonium
bombs and head for Russia. There are also about 1,500
nuclear weapons on each side that are currently in the field,
mingled with conventional weapons but known to
commanders. Those are probably the most dangerous of all
these arsenal of nuclear weapons because they are already
and permanently dispersed in the field. All - everything will
be
launched within just about 30 minutes in this make or break
final combat.
Everything described above from the moment one side
launches its nuclear weapons will not take more than 45 to
60
minutes and it is all over. If the attack takes place at night,
right here in Nigeria, if you look northwest towards Europe or
east northwest towards the United States, or northeast
towards Russia, you will actually see a dull glow in your
night
sky though you won't hear the thunder of the explosions.
The next three days or even a week will be normal although
wind patterns may have become suspect. Thereafter, you
will
observe that the sky is getting darker and midday seems like
dusk. That is the cloud of a global thermonuclear warfare.
The sun will be screened out for months and plants will die
off. This will lead to global famine, first step. Of course,
global
trade is already gone and the world has reverted to primitive
levels. The Internet is no more and telephone services have
become epileptic.
Next will come the global outbreak of all forms of cancers
from radiation carried around the world by the cloud earlier
described. Death will become so much more desirable than
life that those alive will curse their lot.
There will be survivors of course: those who have been
hidden away in military grade silos and have ample supplies
to carry them for about two years.
Those who just manage to go through about three years of
life as foragers and scavengers and somehow have not been
killed by skin cancer, blood cancer and other forms of
metastasis. They are the ones that will populate the new
world and begin to try to establish a new civilization.
Now you have an idea why NATO keeps avoiding fighting
with
Russia. It is simply to keep YOU alive.
They won't take their time to read, think and learn so as to be able reason independently and make rational decisions.
The world is evolving and mistakes of the past have to be avoided at all cost.
No Nation can just misbehave today without global condemnation.
Not even America.
With the way some people reason on this platform,I fear for this country.
You can see one cloning another's moniker just to tarnish another person's image over what exactly?Isn't that wickness,and should be totally condemned to refrain others from doing such.
And some people are liking the post.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Qatar Says Europe Cannot Replace Russian Gas by 11doubledee: 11:44am On Mar 27, 2022
2016easy2017:
U r a dumb. U deserve beeing a slave for ever
Slave to who precisely? I'm yet to see any iota of intelligence in your expression so far.
In the absence of none,pls don't bother qouting.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russian Tank Regiment Commander Kills Himself Over Unserviceable Vehicles by 11doubledee: 10:56am On Mar 27, 2022
Mynd44:
Russian tank regiment commander killed himself ‘after finding out 90% of tanks held in reserve were unusable because parts had been stolen’, claims Ukrainian intelligence

Kyiv's Ministry of Defence claimed the commander was with the 4th tank divison
It claimed he killed himself when he realised state Russian reserve tanks were in
Kyiv said in his unit, one out of 10 tanks in storage were 'more or less' operational
The commander becomes the latest high-ranking Russian military official to have died in Ukraine since Putin ordered his forces to invade Ukraine on Feb. 24



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10655501/Ukraine-claims-Russian-tank-commander-killed-reserve-tanks-unserivcable.html
Inasmuch as we have the right to chose what we want to believe.
These journalists risk their lives to give us news and reports.
Big media houses have reporters in war fronts and have sources from which information is gotten.
It's not fair to call every news report "Western propaganda"
Foreign Affairs › Re: 6 Russian Air-Strikes Hits Lviv, 250 Miles From U.S President Biden's Location by 11doubledee:
sweetjohn:
Brain dead blindedfolded Muslim. USA did not fight Afgan but terrorists. Russia is fighting a sovereign nation and her innocent citizen. Pls get sense
Most times it amazes me how people reason irrationally.
Russia has been the ones firing missiles into Ukraine, not just military targets o,killing civilians and destroying public structures like schools and hospitals.
And someone is still blaming USA with lots of likes.
It just tells you where wickedness abound.
Whether USA or RUSSIA, what is BAD is BAD.
This is not about America,it's about Russia's actions.
Afghanistan was where Alqaeda terrorists were based and had their training before they struck America in 9/11 killing almost three thousand people.
Alqaeda found solace in Afghanistan protected by the Taliban government after bombing American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania boastfully taking all responsibilities.
These wicked souls are trying to change the narrative and history which is impossible.
Now tell me which terrorist organization Ukraine is sponsoring or supporting to attack Russia or how many Russians has Ukrainian government killed that warrants this attack.
You seized Crimea since 2014 without returning it back and you don't want me to feel threatened into joining NATO.
Celebrities › Re: Burna Boy: I’m The Highest Paid Artist In The History Of African Music by 11doubledee: 9:40pm On Mar 26, 2022
Gracedavid125:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKh76Vg4bWc

Nigerian Grammy award winner, Burna Boy has affirmed that his colleagues, Wizkid and Davido who are among Africa’s richest musicians are not richer than him.
Burna Boy’s assertion follows an early tweet where he claimed he is the highest paid artiste in the history of African music.

In a tweet, the Grammy winner had wrote:


https://mobile.twitter.com/burnaboy/status/1507543896280207365
FEM!
Foreign Affairs › Re: Qatar Says Europe Cannot Replace Russian Gas by 11doubledee: 3:51pm On Mar 26, 2022
Investigative:
America supported extremist with information and arms to kill a country leader why don't they follow democratic process as they claim to be
Well there was no invasion like I said.
As for information and weapons,they did supply the opposition.
There were some issues preceding that, In 1988, ghadaffi was fingered to have trained and financed the terrorists that bombed and killed over 265 mostly Britons over lockerbie.
To take that much lives, probably Britain never forgave him.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Qatar Says Europe Cannot Replace Russian Gas by 11doubledee: 3:45pm On Mar 26, 2022
System6464:
You know nothing.
Agreed.
Please tell us what you know then.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Qatar Says Europe Cannot Replace Russian Gas by 11doubledee: 3:31pm On Mar 26, 2022
Investigative:
Okay so what did America did in Libya
Cos they celebrated with France on air raid on gaddafi
Thank you for asking.
Khalifa Hafter was the Libyan dissident General from the Army that staged a coup taking advantage of the Arab spring protests in 2011.
Majority of Libyans (especially the marginalised part ,Benghazi) had long time bottled up grudges and rebelled against his government.
Now to the question, it was Britain and France that interfered directly by creating and enforcing a " No fly zone " .
America supported by giving them real time information using the � satellite.
There is no record of America directly sending soldiers,not to talk of an INVASION.
I don't know if you're aware that it was ordinary Libyans that caught ghadaffi, humiliated before finally killing him.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Qatar Says Europe Cannot Replace Russian Gas by 11doubledee: 3:06pm On Mar 26, 2022
Investigative:
Just say if they are after the destruction of the world
Cos Russia is not Libya or Syria
US can invade without consequences
You all keep saying America INVADED Libya. That's a wrong narrative that has been flying around for so long.
Please do some research and also educate those who have chosen to believe falsehood because of their hatred for America,that's not true.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Qatar Says Europe Cannot Replace Russian Gas by 11doubledee: 2:55pm On Mar 26, 2022
gambojimeta:
Biggest winner America.

More jobs will be created to support the exportation of gas to the EU. More revenue and income tax to the US government.
And the biggest losers will be?
R for.....
Foreign Affairs › Re: Moscow Offers Update On Casualties From Ukraine Conflict by 11doubledee:
bonechamberlain:
https://www.rt.com/russia/552708-ukraine-conflict-military-casualties/
With all these Ukrainian military causalities, how come Russia have not been able to conquer Ukraine after one month ,with all their overhyped military.
Russian Propaganda Vs Western propaganda.
Putin should please fire some missiles into Poland na,since he is claiming strong man.
Let them put him in his place once and for all.
Adolf Hitler needs him.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Ukraine Forces Destroy Russian Landing Ship Using Ballistic Missile Strike by 11doubledee: 6:27pm On Mar 24, 2022
Cyntie55:
Sir, Putin has every right to defend his country. He's taking a very important proactive step to safe guard his country.

I want to understand that NATO was formed to tame USSR. The USSR is dead, what the hell is NATO still doing positioning herself within a striking distance to Russia?? Please make sure you answer this question.

Ukraine got herself into this mess by deciding to join a military group that represents her neighbors worse enemies.
Russia invaded and seized Crimea( massive swarthe of land)in 2014, please for which cogent reason?
Would it have been possible if they were a NATO member?
After several appeals through EU and UN,for 8yrs Ukraine has always used diplomacy in dealing with Russia.
Who wouldn't feel threatened into joining NATO?
Putin's action prompted the decision.
It was his plan all along to gradually take over Ukraine,who does that?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia Says Polish Idea Of Peacekeepers In Ukraine Could Lead To Clash With NATO by 11doubledee:
Upworkwriter007:
Why will UN back it because NATO adopted it? Do you know that you need Russia's vote for anything to pass through UN security council?
How do you mean? Vote in a resolution to attack itself?
grin grin grin
Aside China that has completely abstained (indirectly telling Russia to be reasonable), all other permanent sitting members of UN are completely against the invasion.
Infact they are responsible for majority of the sanctions on Russia.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia Will Use Nuclear Weapons When Under Threat - Dmitry Peskov by 11doubledee: 2:55am On Mar 23, 2022
XXXXTENTACION:
CNN Elder...
do you know how many years U.S.A spent invading Afghanistan.. huh
Is this your justification for the Russian invasion?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Mcdonald's Closed 847 Restaurants In Russia. Russians Turned The Logo 90 Degrees by 11doubledee: 10:00am On Mar 21, 2022
joyandfaith:
Stalin did that during cold war. By 1991, USSR collapsed. It was USSR decision to form useless eastern block that allowed West to control world economy. China made similar mistake in 1950s/60s with leap forward and cultural revolution. Millions died. China reformed her economy and pulled out of Eastern block. In 70s, China economy was taking shape. Within 2 decades of reform, China storms the world. The truth is that no nation can develop without others.
It's better for most of these Putin supporters to listen and learn,but no, they are always quick to comment on things they are ignorant of.
The problems Robert Mugabe created for Zimbabwe can't be completely solved in the next 30yrs through his bad policies (sadly he is dead now), unborn generations will suffer for it.
The implications of lack of FDI will be evident with time and the effects are usually devastating.
BTW I trust Putin himself to have sent them away as a form of retaliation if they (FDI) were that insignificant.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Anton Siluanov: Russia Made Bond Payment, Now Up To US To Pay Bondholders by 11doubledee: 10:00am On Mar 17, 2022
Mynd44:
This is different as this is about countries and not individuals.

The bondholders are Americans etc whose countries froze the accounts. These countries also froze accounts of people who are not even linked to the war atlethes etc.

Now Russia is doing the same. The West imposed sanctions so the people cann pressure Putin. Putin has also held these funds there so the bondholders can pressure US and co to lift the sanctions
You're right, not until Putin and Russia has been pressured to withdraw from Ukraine.
What's the cogent reason behind the Russian attack on Ukraine?
Look at how humans like ourselves have been slaughtered and displaced like "chickens".
Regarding the holders of Russia's debt (bond holders), if it had been issued in ruble, Most international investors wouldn't have held them. This is a Russia that has a history of defaulting on it's debt obligations.
Afterall Russia can also sanction the USA(if they have not already done so) but they will be hurting themselves the more.
America is not just called world power for nothing.
Sports › Re: Tom Brady: What Ronaldo Discussed With ‘Fellow GOAT’ by 11doubledee: 3:27pm On Mar 14, 2022
paulolee:
I find it funny wen a player is called a GOAT just bcox he scored a hat trick against spurs at 37 ahead of the other dt have already won 7 ballon d or already at 33..
I find it funny wen a player is tagged a GOAT bcoz he had 807 goals in his career bt I never for once heard bican name in the GOAT aguement even with his 805 goals records he held before now..
all these table shifting means nothing if cr7 ends his career without winning another ballon d or bcoz with time, dis hatrick would be forgotten n this goal record will be ignored jus like dt of his international goal record n UCL goal records...
cr7 is a goal scorer n being d GOAT isnt just about goals n dts why we dnt know bican up till now.
messi av ended dt GOAT race n would continue to av d edge even if he retires today bcoz he gat more individual awards n trophies won than cr7 dt started before him n gat more games than messi...FACT
A GOAT that is most likely not to win any trophy.Even champions league qualification is not sure.
grin grin grin grin grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Captured Russian Soldiers Told "You'll Be Shot Back Home If You Come Back" by 11doubledee:
internationalman:
Listen to yourself, are you not laughable with with way you sound
Better ignore that one.
Someone that can't freely practice Islam in Russia and China is calling out America.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russian Soldiers Kill Brent Renaud (American Journalist) - Pictures by 11doubledee: 6:49pm On Mar 13, 2022
GodHatesBigots:
Hmm, its only a matter of time.




https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/brent-renaud-ukraine-russia-american-journalist-killed/#app
RIP
These are some of the risks journalists take to give us first hand information and news.
We shouldn't just label everything "Western propaganda".
RIP once again.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Jens Stoltenberg Warns Russia That Attack On Arms Convoys Will Be An Escalation by 11doubledee:
yanabasee:
You can't compare Russia nuclear with a collective nuclear weapons from all concerned NATO countries...
Highly intelligent comment .
I just laugh at Putin's blinded supporters.
Putin and Russia's strength has always been exaggerated.
The west has always and will always clip his wings.
Let him fire one nuclear missle now on a NATO member.
He will receive from all corners.That means the end of EUROPE.
Na still that USA go rebuild that continent with no Russia on the map.It may take very long though to rebuild.
Even China will deny him.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Britain Searches For Helicopters, Jets Belonging To Sanctioned Russians by 11doubledee: 3:19pm On Mar 12, 2022
mauchiz:
Majority of Nigerians wants to relocate to Europe, that is why we are bothered about what happens there.
You dey mind am
The war was needless. We have Nigerians living in both Ukraine and Russia. But in this case Russia is the aggressor.
Ever since the war started, i'ev not been able to communicate with a friend of mine in Ukraine.
All I do is just to pray for her daily and hope she's safe.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by 11doubledee: 11:32am On Mar 12, 2022
posty56:
RT annd CGTN that are controlled by government grin,so their own source correct because you they support Russia,when we call una zombie una think say we they lie
Imagine if one had depended on CGTN for the truth about coronavirus pandemic or one of my favorite tennis players (peng shuai),at a point I thought she was Dead, nothing about her for a over year.
If not for this so called "Western propaganda",the truth about these two independent events wouldn't have been known.
In as much as i listen to news from them as well,I tend to believe what a hear or read from the Western media more.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia Bans All Residents From Transferring Money Abroad by 11doubledee:
eminikansoso:
China, North Korea, Iran, India and some Asia countries will rally round and support Russia and they can form a strong economy union to counter US and the West.
You people never seems to amaze me.
Try to understand things before airing your opinion.
India doesn't have a strong alliance with Russia as it does with the West.
North Korea that can't properly feed itself can't be of any help.
Russia and Iran are only friends because America is a common enemy.
They can't trade oil for oil now.
Only China can be of help economically but those ones stingy die and they themselves want a weakened Russia for their ego as second world power, even economically America is more valuable to them.
Except in a global full blown war, I'm sorry Putin as caged himself.
Funding wars is not easy and trying to salvage a dwindling economy simultaneously.
With time you'll understand.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Putin To Officially Recognise Breakaway Ukraine Regions by 11doubledee: 11:35pm On Feb 21, 2022
AmazonTopaz:
I am not into your silly propaganda if you so much love Russia or do not value democracy you can be on your next flight to Russia and worship the Stalins and Lenins of this world.
Some of them just hate America's guts, that's all.
The freedom and opportunities the US offers is far more than Russia and China combined.
How I wish the US can just sit back and fold their arms for some people to learn the hard way. But I trust them, they won't.
Politics › Re: 2023: Malami, Obaigbena, Other Cabal Members Behind Emefiele's Presidential Bid by 11doubledee: 10:36am On Feb 14, 2022
hynodo:
http://saharareporters.com/2022/02/13/exclusive-story-behind-how-buhari’s-minister-malami-media-guru-obaigbena-other-cabal
I thought the head of central banks across the world are supposed to be non partisan.
undecided undecided undecided
Politics › Re: Atiku Says No Zoning In Nigeria’s Constitution, Wants Indirect Primary In PDP by 11doubledee: 5:48am On Feb 12, 2022
ToughGuy111:
Bro we're not fighting or are we arguing either.But what's wrong with a muslim man ruling America?
It's like saying a Christian will lead Iran.
It has to do with the foundation of the state itself.
Sports › Re: World Cup Qualifiers: D'Tigress Beats France 67-65 by 11doubledee: 11:58pm On Feb 11, 2022
All thanks to the USA
Crime › Re: Ibadan Bullion Van Robbery: 3 Police Officers, 4 Civillians Dead by 11doubledee: 8:56am On Feb 11, 2022
saphiere:
Crime committed by the gender that betrayed Jesus.
Coming from the gender that betrayed humanity.
grin grin grin grin grin
Celebrities › Re: Bae U In Sex For Skits Scandal by 11doubledee: 7:54am On Jan 31, 2022
BluntTheApostle:
There are girls who really want to hustle for their own money, but people like this Bae U will never let them.

A girl wants to work, give her work if you have work.

I wonder what they see in this sex sef.


The other day it was a man dying after having sex with his former wife. He promised to help her out of a financial difficulty in exchange for sex. Is it that some men can't help a woman free of charge?
And they will still claim to help you after taking advantage of you.
I just tire abeg.Wickedness abounds in our hearts and we don't realise it.
If you can afford to help,do it without hesitation and move on.
Sports › Re: Cristiano Ronaldo's Statue Unveiled In India (Pictures) by 11doubledee: 3:58pm On Dec 29, 2021
OJEEMAH:
It is not a crime to prefer or like Ronaldo more but i would love you to come clean like Eminem when he told Benzino "Its not like we don't like you, we hate you....Period!" in one of his beef track 'Nail in the coffin'.

Life no balance.......some were born blessed and gifted while others have to work harder to enjoy same level of success but just know its nobody's fault Messi is blessed with talents that is meant for 9 people.

So just come out clean no be today we know say you hate the guy and I understand why as a man united fan.

Whether you like am or not, Messi will forever remain the yardstick to measure great footballers
grin grin grin grin
Don't mind the he or she ( whatever).
Indeed you really like Messi

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