davidylan: Amazing... the atheists are in ecstasy.

The more you see posts like this the more you begin to regard evangelistic atheism for what it is... naked proselytizing for adherents. Indeed there is joy in the house of the atheists for every "christian" who reverts.

When we wish to examine in a cool, calm way the opinions of men, we are very much surprised to find that in those which we consider the most essential, nothing is more rare than to find them using common sense; that is to say, the portion of judgment sufficient to know the most simple truths, to reject the most striking absurdities, and to be shocked by palpable contradictions.

In a word, whoever will consult common sense upon religious opinions, and will carry into this examination the attention given to objects of ordinary interest, will easily perceive that these opinions have no solid foundation; that all religion is but a castle in the air; that Theology is but ignorance of natural causes reduced to a system; that it is but a long tissue of chimeras and contradictions; that it presents to all the different nations of the earth only romances devoid of probability, of which the hero himself is made up of qualities impossible to reconcile, his name having the power to excite in all hearts respect and fear, is found to be but a vague word, which men continually utter, being able to attach to it only such ideas or qualities as are belied by the facts, or which evidently contradict each other. The notion of this imaginary being, or rather the word by which we designate him, would be of no consequence did it not cause ravages without number upon the earth

Evil Brain:

Please explain to me what your problem with atheist proselytizing is. After all you Christians do it constantly so why can't anybody else share their beliefs?

Evil Brain:
You remind me of those Saudi clerics who want to force feed everyone the Koran, but scream bloody murder when they see a Christian preaching the bible.

Evil Brain:
BTW, congrats to Uyi Iredia on the decorking of his brain. For me, he doesn't need to become an atheist. Just the thought that a diehard Nairaland Christian can be taught to apply skepticism and rationality to matters of religion is a huge relief and a validation of my countless rants in this section. I hope he also find time to reexamine his beliefs on evolution, the age of the earth, physics and cosmology.

Evil Brain:
Science FTW!

musKeeto: Nyc one, Evil Brain.

For those who might be interested, here's a link to Jean's book: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/17607/17607-h/17607-h.htm

From the preface

davidylan:

that is EXACTLY the point! See atheists foam in the mouth when christians proselytize... but yet hypocritically do the exact same thing!

davidylan:
You're going too far... here we have atheists who want to force atheism down the throats of others yet howl like rabid dogs when christians dare speak up for their faith in public. The truth is that atheists are beginning to sound more and more like saudi clerics... if many of you had your way no churches would exist and open expression of religious faith would be a criminal offence.

davidylan:
why do you need a christian reverting as validation for your rants? Its quite odd to me that you are not sure of your position until you have coerced another to join you. See, whether you revert or not, doesnt affect my faith... i would be quite glad to see you rescue your own soul but at the end of the day the choice is yours to make.

davidylan:
Oh dear... you wouldnt know science if it hit you squat in the face.

davidylan: Amazing... the atheists are in ecstasy.

The more you see posts like this the more you begin to regard evangelistic atheism for what it is... naked proselytizing for adherents. Indeed there is joy in the house of the atheists for every "christian" who reverts.

alexleo:

Bros what you should do is to keep praying for uyi and not to come here and be having silly time with (nonsense)logicboy. This is a phase in Uyi's life and if you love him pray for him. Annony passed through it but when he had a one on one communion with God he came to full understanding of God, same goes for some others too so dont bother yourself here. Pray for him with love in your heart. When the Holy Spirit convinces him, his testimony will also build up some christians too who are trying to give up. When things like this happen its also possible that God is bringing him to a point where he will experience him more and testify to the world. Only pray that the devil doesnt distract or deceive him along the line.

Logicboy03:




Good....good.

However, admit that you were shaken from that time last year when i called you a psychopath for your christian morality seeing nothing wrong with the horrors of the old testamnet

Alfamann: Uyi, my brother, you need to know what to expect in this path you have taken so you don't fall back as many have done. Annony for example.

You are like an addict that have gone into a rehab and it is going to be a lifetime struggle. You will have temptations on the way. You will find yourself doubting if you were doing the right thing questionning the unquestionable one. Then you will have family tribulations. Christian "Friends" will insult, threaten and desert you.

Some have already started here on this thread as you can see.

Like all succesful rehabilitations, diet regimes, retreats, etc, the secret is taking it step by step. Do not abandon everything immediately. Because you can't. You have been indoctrinated since childhood. Your brain has believed things to be true. Infact, if you took a lie detector a few years ago and said that Yahweh was kind and loving, you would have passed. That is how intrinsic such belief are in children.

So, read the bible, again and again. Read it with open mind. When you find yourself praying before putting food in your mouth, don't let it worry you. It will rid of itself.

One day you will look back and wonder how come you spent the most part of your life believing nonsense.

davidylan: Amazing... the atheists are in ecstasy.

The more you see posts like this the more you begin to regard evangelistic atheism for what it is... naked proselytizing for adherents. Indeed there is joy in the house of the atheists for every "christian" who reverts.

musKeeto: ^^^^^

Na wa @Alfamann.

Lol, I remember listening to the audio
version of mere Christianity. Only made matters more confusing.

Uyi Iredia: So far I'm quite disappointed with the Christian response here. I expected a response to what I said not what some people think it implies. Put simply, I was expecting a rebuttal to my statements on God not being loving. In fact, that's what I'll be hoping to see when I get back.

musKeeto: The bulldog and the other one would rather attack the atheists they 'd not care' about than address the issue. Of course, that's normal. One has already gone as far as to suggest that should you become an atheist in the future, you were never a Christian in the first place.

The truth is that your fears are valid. The OT does not portray a good image of Yahweh. The disconnect between the God of the OT and the One who sent his Son in the NT is quite difficult to ignore. Don't expect any
satisfying answers soon

musKeeto: Lol, I quite agree. Not some fake guys claiming attempting to do so, and failing woefully at it.

musKeeto: Lol, I quite agree. Not some fake guys claiming attempting to do so, and failing woefully at it.

ooman:

Exactly, if the rich skydaddy exist, let him poke his nose down for us to see. But before we can observe otherwise, all evidence point to the ABSENCE OF GOD.

Uyi Iredia: @ Ihedinobi: God understanding Himself doesn't answer the questions raised by my statements. Infact it roundtrips the question. BTW I asked Him and got no reply.

Ihedinobi:

And would you recognize His nose if He did? How would you tell that it isn't the Flying Spaghetti Monster's nose or some Christian who built a spacecraft in the shape of a nose to fool you?

Ihedinobi:

Lol. Even God would fail at it, as far as you're concerned. We know Him. We can tell you that you are all wrong about Him. We can show you how you are wrong about Him. And you can sing 'lalalalalalala' even when we ask you to see for yourself what we have been telling you.

My friend, I do not give a damn if you think we are failing at telling you the Truth or that we are fake (you're free to hold what opinion you may), I only care that you don't want to know. And, pity that it is, you really don't.

ooman:

IT IS GOD WHO CLAIM TO LOVE US, DIE FOR US ETC.

IT IS HIS TOTAL RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE UNDERSTAND HIM. IT IS HIS RESPONSIBILITY TO SHOW HIMSELF TO US IN THE WAY WE WOULD UNDERSTAND.

IT IS ALL HIS RESPONBILITY NEVER OURS.

Ihedinobi:

Why should I bother with you? Can you answer that?

Uyi Iredia: So far I'm quite disappointed with the Christian response here. I expected a response to what I said not what some people think it implies. Put simply, I was expecting a rebuttal to my statements on God not being loving. In fact, that's what I'll be hoping to see when I get back.