₦airaland Forum

madridguy:
I am sure if one of the soldiers is your family, you will send some money to his killer as thank you fee.

Bro, I am not justifying the killing of our soldiers. I am against the leveling of the communities and killing of innocent people as retaliation. This shouldn't be.

madridguy:
If you don't have anything reasonable to say, go and sleep.

Seriously, my guy, try to stand by the truth at times. No be everything be Politics

madridguy:
Emergency lovers of Nigeria.

Pa Nnamdi himself. Allow our soldiers to do their work.

You this man. Always on every thread supporting evil!

Nigeria police and army are only good at eliminating innocent civilians. But they can't end banditry. Nonsense

kkins25:
Where is the keeling please?

Help me ask her o 😂

APCNGN:
Like 123456789O rightly said, it's the prosecutor that'll be proving beyond every reasonable doubt that "ki***ing" means "killing," that's how it works.

Had it been it was Chioma that sued Erisco alleging his products are killing people, then the onus would be on her to prove beyond reasonable doubt.

Good luck to you and Erisco!

Gbam! Dominique, read this!

dominique:
It seems you dropped out at jss2. I wrote she insinuated in my post, go and consult your dictionary if you don't know what it means

She should go to court and explain what EXACTLY she meant. How bleeping hard is this?

Sorry, the onus is on the prosecutor to explain how "ki***ing" equates "killing"..

dominique:
I actually don't care about the case, what irks me is how social media users are demanding people to boycott the product and are attacking those that refuse to join their herd. Is that not the same bullying and intimidation they're accusing erisco of?

No, what should irk you more is how people, particularly Tinubu supporters, would side evil without bothering to hear from all sides.

No one is attacking you. Criticising you is not "attacking" you in the way you mean it. I think that's what triggered Eric to embark on his wild goose chase. Learn to hear from all side. I took my time to go through all sides before pitching tent with Chioma.

I hope when she's eventually exonerated, you'll personally create a thread on this Politics section and apologise to her? And also move the thread to the front page, right?

dominique:
Why is she so apprehensive about going to court if her intentions were pure. I expected her to have counter-sued by now for harassment and intimidation. She should take the fight off social media and go to court!

She's countersued already for 500 million naira. You're not following the case sef but you dun judge her finish

dominique:
Why is she so apprehensive about going to court if her intentions were pure. I expected her to have counter-sued by now for harassment and intimidation. She should take the fight off social media and go to court!

Madam, she's not apprehensive. The police are intimidating her. Case that happened in Lagos, where both party live, they moved it to Abuja to frustrate her. Accused her of "frustrating the case" because people are donating to help her with the case. She's being harassed. Her apartment was invaded. Is that how to prosecute the case? The intention is to intimidate her. If not, why is Eric asking her for 5 billion in the police station? Police station na court?

Do you know Eric's method of handling the case would work against even if, for the purpose of this argument, Chioma is guilty?

Also, are you aware ECOWAS court has declared the Cyber Crimes Act section Eric and the police are relying on null and void?

So, why not allow the Nigerian court Handle the case? Why the harassment?

dominique:
If that's what she meant she should go and explain in the court. She has already been subpoenaed and the complainant is not backing down. She should go to court and explain what she meant by ki****ng.

No, you already concluded it's "killing" na. So explain.

Also, what we are fighting against is the use of the police to harass and intimidate the woman. Take her to court and allow the court do its thing. But no. Una preemptively assigned meaning to an ambiguous word, while Eric continued to use the police to harass her. Why not let the court handle it?

Una go judge her on SM. Once we ask for explanation or tear una lame accusation, una go begin regurgitate una rehashed "go to court" line. Nawa o

Dominique and Co assigned a meaning to "ki***ing".. Una go tell me if una be mind readers. Make una explain to court how una manage to hack into Chioma's mind to know the exact word she was referring to. 🤔 😂

dominique:
If she didn't imply that the product was killing people in the post below, she should go and explain what thr asterisks between the letters stand for. Is the product kissing people. if so she should provide proof. Is it Kinning or kinging people, if so she should prove it! If you defame my product I have a right to sue you to court.

What about "kidding"? It would make a lot of sense. See my post regarding it and screenshot. Also follow the thread to learn more. You can’t charge Chioma with a criminal offence using an unknown or ambiguous word as "proving beyond reasonable doubt".. Eric is the one that used the police to prosecute Chioma. So, they're the ones that'll explain to the court what Chioma had in mind.

123456789O:
I agree 100%! I wonder where those parading "killing" got it from. Going by their logic, why not use "kidding"? Stop kidding people with your product will also make sense. "Kidding people with your product" would mean to deceive (someone) with your product. Nawa o

Same President that was defeated by Niger after chestbeating?

APCNGN:
LOL, them no go answer you again. Nothing dey their head. No dey take Tinubu supporters seriously.

Dominique, RenaissanceGuy, follow this thread

https://www.nairaland.com/8029996/fact-check-chioma-never-said#128929183

😂

RenaissanceGuy:
She said so. I saw the screenshot myself. That was where she shot herself in the foot.

Oya show me... Where she said so... I dey wait.

EmiloCorn:
Dominique have you not gone to grocery shop yet? abi seun never pay?

Tell us make we go drag am commot for twitter if him never pay

😂

Dominique, you still haven't responded to my reply on the other thread. Show me where Chioma said the Erisco Foods is killing people. If you can't, then you should apologise to her.

DiscoverID:
Stop crying and go and asked the Palestinians the repercussion of harbouring terrorists. It's called collateral damage or casualties of war. Play stupid games and win stupid prizes.

You're evil for supporting the leveling of those communities. Wicked man

By the time Tinubu is done with Nigerians eh

Presidency said Tinubu sleeps by 3 am, yet things are getting worse.. Maybe he should start sleeping early so he won't be sleeping during important meetings. Nigerians are suffering! BAT should wake up! ⏰️

dominique:
She insinuated that the product was killing people, how worse can someone demarket a product? She has to go to court and prove beyond doubts that the product has actually killed someone or made them ill. I'll make sure I request for that product when next I go grocery shopping

Also, I suggest you read this. I wonder where una dey get "killing" from.

NLCreator:
]● Eric, founder of Erisco Foods, acknowledges the presence of sugar in the tomato mix Chioma reviewed, suggesting, "You can add water and use it to eat bread." He draws a comparison between the tin tomato mix and "butter" and "jam." Given that jam often contains high levels of sugar, it's understandable why Chioma voiced her concern.

● This comparison has prompted some analysts to raise questions regarding false advertising and lack of information. Notably, the amount of sugar added is unspecified, and there's no nutritional breakdown available. Additionally, the use of a personified image of a tomato chef preparing a meal with the tomato mix jam raises further concerns. Moreover, critics argue that the '100% natural' label on Erisco canned tomatoes, tomato mix, and tomato pastes is vague and misleading.

● Chioma faces accusations of violating the Cyber Crimes Act 2015 for stating that the product is killing people. However, some analysts have disputed this claim, suggesting it's an assumption rather than a fact. They point out that Chioma used "ki***ing," an 8-character word, while "killing" is only 7 characters long. Therefore, according to these analysts, it's inappropriate to impose an assumption on a vague word, especially in a case involving a criminal offense that requires evidence 'beyond reasonable doubt'.

● Nevertheless, others argue that even if "killing" was intended, it still doesn't justify the intimidation. They contend that the word strongly emphasizes concerns about the potential negative health effects of consuming such a sweet product. Additionally, section 24 of the Cybercrime Act 2015, which Eric and the police are relying on, is controversial, as it has been declared null and void by the ECOWAS court. Ribadu has also pledged that the law will be reviewed. However, while Eric and the police are entitled to test it in Nigerian courts, they should refrain from intimidating and bullying the pregnant mother and allow the court to perform its duty.

● The Federal Competition & Consumer Protection Commission (FCCPC) has declared Chioma didn't violate any known extant law.

tommy589:
Thank you for the enlightenment. Erisco should do the needful

Exactly what they should have done instead of intimidating her. Personally, I can't use a product if I don't know the percentage of sugar used. No problem if sugar is used, but at least, I deserve to know the amount. Erisco Foods didn't do that. To make matters worse, it says "100% natural "

dominique:
She insinuated that the product was killing people, how worse can someone demarket a product? She has to go to court and prove beyond doubts that the product has actually killed someone or made them ill. I'll make sure I request for that product when next I go grocery shopping

Where did she say the product is killing people? Show me

Cc: tommy589

tommy589:
Has the regulator (Nafdac) found the product unfit for consumption? Has anyone or you done independent analysis to know it has high sugar content

Products don't have to confirm to the same taste. If not comfortable with a particular taste move to another brand

She complained about the quantity of sugar, not existence. Product should state the quantity of ingredients used, particularly sugar. NAFDAC doesn't give medical advice. The quantity would enable users under med make informed decisions.

Read

https://www.nairaland.com/8030198/experts-accuse-erisco-foods-violating

tommy589:
Nafdac is not complaining. This is a product that met all required standards. But a lady decided to de-market the product online and destroy a genuine business without proof

What's the quantity of sugar?

How did Chioma demarket the product? When did review or negative review become a crime?

Tinubu’s wahala

APCNGN:
This is serious

Na why Eric dey donate the product anyhow cos nobody dey buy 😂

NLCreator:
..

Make this man no allow arrogance ruin him business sha

Wahala for Erisco... See as that trader shop full of Erisco Tomato, no sales. But other products are being sold. Eric should do the right thing and save his company