Omorotionmwan:
Ah yes, Ned still behaved like a dopemu.
He didn't tell Sansa why they were leaving for Winterfell. He could have told her, come, our lives are in danger from the Lannisters and that is why you have to leave now. He should have explained to her what was at stake. He only vaguely said it was for their own safety when he knew Sansa was still infatuated with Joff and had a close(well at least what she thought was a close) relationship with Cersei, who, so far, had been kind and motherly towards her. He didn't let them know that something really intense was going on. It was more of a "pat them on the head,my girls will do as I say without explanation" thing. Did he even need to tell them gan sef? Honestly, I keep thinking he didn't even need to tell them they were leaving for Winterfell beforehand. Just bundle them off the minute plans have been finalized.
He knew Sansa's relationship with him had soured since Lady's death, so she wasn't even happy with him to begin with, and then to take her away from the prince she was in love with just made her more pissed at him.

Perhaps, he couldn't have predicted that Sansa would sell him out to Cersei, but he could have handled the situation better.


And then,let's assume Sansa telling Cersei his plans was not his fault but hers. He still had an opportunity to salvage the situation, but he chose not to.

He did not accept Renly's help because he was trying to preserve the line of succession. Was he forgetting that Robert stole the throne in the first place? If disrupting the line of succession didn't bother him then,why on earth did it bother him at Kings Landing?
He did not take Cersei's children hostage because he didn't want to steal children away from their beds in the middle of the night. Wasn't he the same person who actively or tacitly approved of the murder of the Targaryen children in their beds?

My main issue with Ned is that he was stuck in his own little bubble. He was a genuinely good man but he made the mistake of assuming that everyone around him shared his system of honor-and that mistake cost him his life.
He was naïve. This is unfortunately, a common trait. Honorable men often lack the capacity to understand the darker side of human nature. Sucks that it killed Ned sha.

Omorotionmwan:
Ah yes, Ned still behaved like a dopemu.
He didn't tell Sansa why they were leaving for Winterfell. He could have told her, come, our lives are in danger from the Lannisters and that is why you have to leave now. He should have explained to her what was at stake. He only vaguely said it was for their own safety when he knew Sansa was still infatuated with Joff and had a close(well at least what she thought was a close) relationship with Cersei, who, so far, had been kind and motherly towards her. He didn't let them know that something really intense was going on. It was more of a "pat them on the head,my girls will do as I say without explanation" thing. Did he even need to tell them gan sef? Honestly, I keep thinking he didn't even need to tell them they were leaving for Winterfell beforehand. Just bundle them off the minute plans have been finalized.
He knew Sansa's relationship with him had soured since Lady's death, so she wasn't even happy with him to begin with, and then to take her away from the prince she was in love with just made her more pissed at him.

Perhaps, he couldn't have predicted that Sansa would sell him out to Cersei, but he could have handled the situation better.


And then,let's assume Sansa telling Cersei his plans was not his fault but hers. He still had an opportunity to salvage the situation, but he chose not to.

He did not accept Renly's help because he was trying to preserve the line of succession. Was he forgetting that Robert stole the throne in the first place? If disrupting the line of succession didn't bother him then,why on earth did it bother him at Kings Landing?
He did not take Cersei's children hostage because he didn't want to steal children away from their beds in the middle of the night. Wasn't he the same person who actively or tacitly approved of the murder of the Targaryen children in their beds?

My main issue with Ned is that he was stuck in his own little bubble. He was a genuinely good man but he made the mistake of assuming that everyone around him shared his system of honor-and that mistake cost him his life.
He was naïve. This is unfortunately, a common trait. Honorable men often lack the capacity to understand the darker side of human nature. Sucks that it killed Ned sha.

ekt_bear:

i wonder ooo

Omorotionmwan:
No his own was the younger brother cannot inherit the throne before the older brother. Never mind that taking up Renly's offer would have saved him and his daughters at the moment , given him the support of House Tyrell and Renly's bannermen, and with him as the general of the armies of the North and House Tyrell-gbam! The war is over.
And Renly was arguably more trustworthy than Baelish, and even Lord Varys whose main desire was to prevent a war in the realm.
But nooo. His stupidity covered his brain and did not allow him think.

naijababe:

Exactly. She says all the right things infront of people who needs to hear them but those people know she said them to keep her head. In situations where she needs to be more discreet and less trusting she is the exact opposite.

django1: Pls guys what is happening, is GOT on break I can't find the video update on the internet!

naijababe:
That girl is the equivalent of a blackberry babe abeg. Zero commonsense.

Omorotionmwan:
She's living amongst enemies in Kings Landing. She has to constantly put on a mask,and any slip would result in her death. She has to play the perfect little lady and manipulate her way through the sea of lies and deceit in Kings Landing-and she does it. She does what she needs to do to survive in a court full of Lannisters, a queen who hates her, a psychopathic betrothed who orders her beaten whenever he bloody well feels like it, no hope of ransom, a murdered father and a scattered family. She's learning to play the game.

django1: Pls guys what is happening, is GOT on break I can't find the video update on the internet!

VillageBoi:

On Sansa... lololol. People no like the fine girl... we go see as things turn out.

Santino1: I love littlefinger's quote about 'chaos'..

Akanniade:
Definitely not on break. Just saw it this morning, after getting it from that which must not be mentioned .

naijababe:


Not airing until 9pm this side of the pond.

django1: Seems I have no idea hw ds PM works....

Akanniade:
Check ur mail.

Santino1: Now in retrospect, I think Sansa shoulda gone with littlefinger as he atleast loves her mother and wouldn't let harm come to her but that's still too early to say.

Seun:
From the last episode, it should be obvious to everyone that Littlefinger is as much of monster as Joffery, only much smarter, which makes him more dangerous. She didn't lose anything by not going with him. The dwarf is straight and he is not cruel. She's getting a very good deal.

Seun:
From the last episode, it should be obvious to everyone that Littlefinger is as much of monster as Joffery, only much smarter, which makes him more dangerous. She didn't lose anything by not going with him. The dwarf is straight and he is not cruel. She's getting a very good deal.

I.Joan:


Who tried to kill the dwarf ? I think he mentioned who during his conversation with his sister but I didn't catch it.
Also, who & why is that guy torturing the guy who wanted to take over Winterfell(i can't remember his name)?

Akanniade:
Twas geoffry that tried to have the imp killed. The guy torturing Theon Greyjoy is the son of one of Rob Stark's ally.

Seun:
From the last episode, it should be obvious to everyone that Littlefinger is as much of monster as Joffery, only much smarter, which makes him more dangerous. She didn't lose anything by not going with him. The dwarf is straight and he is not cruel. She's getting a very good deal.

I.Joan:


You can say that again. I can't wait for Geoffrey to die. I hope his body is sliced into pieces. He killed that prostitute in such a wicked manner.

Seun: @Akinniade: We do not know who the torturer is for sure. He may have lied about Theon being right. But you seem to be right about Joffery being the assasin; based on the dialogue, Tyrion clearly believes Joffery did it, and Cersei didn't disagree.

Akanniade: I cant wait to see Shae's reaction when the imp breaks the news to sansa.

Akanniade: I cant wait to see Shae's reaction when the imp breaks the news to sansa.

I.Joan:


Shae is there for his money! I don't think she cares.

naijababe:

Is he really going to marry Sansa? And Cersei with Loras That really is one to look forward to