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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by kay9(m): 6:50pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
LeSulk: Couldn't have said it better. I believe I understand what @Gbola5 is trying to say though: that Eddard Stark was a better ruler than Tywin Lannister. And to that I say, WRONG. Tywin was a terrible man, and a seriously incompetent father. But he was an excellent ruler - as a ruler, you simply cannot afford to have a soft heart. Tywin's results speak for themselves, while Ned got himself outsmarted right under his own nose. Seriously, can you imagine Tywin being outplayed like Ned was?? That is what I mean: the smarts to be a successful ruler. Thus my statement: I'll rather have a mixture of those two men; Ned for how he managed his home, and Tywin for how he "ruled" the Westerlands (later as Reagent to Joffrey). Ruling is an art, and in the Game of Thrones setting Tywin scores much higher than Ned in rulership. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by kay9(m): 6:56pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
In the mean time, my Johnny Walker White Walker chilling on ice waiting for Episode 3. #WinterIsHere. |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by oyetpel(m): 7:10pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
Endy10: Theon won't be the only one guarding Bran, his fellow ironborns will be there with him. So he might escape with Bran while the foot soldiers ironborns get killed. |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Isomerizm(m): 7:21pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
kay9:Ned was merely loved. Tywin was feared and respected. He had a formidable repute. To be a great ruler, the former qualities are what you need. To me, Ned's death is still overrated. I never liked him from the get-go. Btw, when will E3 be available for download? |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Seun(m): 7:25pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
Ned Stark was an excellent ruler in the north, where honour and honesty are rewarded with loyalty. He was a terrible ruler in the south, which is ruled by liars and backstabbers. The same attributes that helped him so much in the north led to his execution in the south. Tywin was quite competent as a leader, but he had some glaring weaknesses that ultimately destroyed everything he worked for. His irrational hatred of Tyrion - his ideal successor. His excessive cruelty to his enemies, such as in the treatment of Elia Martell, which Cersei inherited from him. His blindness to the incest that caused so many problems for him. If there was no gold in Casterly rock, I don’t think he would've gone far. 25 Likes 7 Shares |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Uyiii: 7:30pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
Fadedvoices2:Elderised Elder! Honestly I only pity the chaps still exchanging argumentative words with you as regards Jon being the true heir to the throne. You know, you're Mr know-it-all and anyone not in alignment with you is a Misogynistic-hippopotamus! (The word just dey sweet you since). Truth is, for this game of thrones talks, I positively envy and appreciate chaps going back and forth over an occurrence in GOT. In the advent and exception of some occurrences that are not really clear even when you see the movie, such instances gave birth to threads like this and other numerous internet layouts to clarify ambiguous happenings. In that case, such arguments can be very pardonable as different school of thoughts begin to fly in but then again, the true answers to this arguments are always embedded in the movie if seen with keen interest and brain fully activated. Now Mr Elder! I am gonna reference you to the discourse between Bran and Samwell Tarly-(Samwell Tarly and Jon snow), a discourse where Jon's origin and heritage was fully revealed by Bran and how he's the true heir to the throne-S08E01. I'm coming from this Bran angle because nobody seems to have tackled your misogyny talks from here. So it's either Bran is a misogynistic-pig or a misogynistic-cripple or more likely, you're just outrightly plain-deluded. The latter I suppose my mehn! 19 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Eberex(m): 7:49pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
How I wish GOT was on Sunday morning 2am. One would just go back to bed and wake up at plus 2 extra hours to compensate for the loss rather than waking early for work. Mtchew |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by bond77(m): 7:51pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
..me checking the list of those dying this evening like... 1 Like
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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 7:54pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
Endy10:I'm guessing you didn't see the honor was in quotation marks. Or don't you know what the quotation marks denotes? |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Endy10(m): 7:57pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
LeSulk: Whether you put quotation mark, or inverted comma or question mark, you still wrong. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Eberex(m): 7:57pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
LeSulk: The guy is high on giant milk. Pls ignore the error |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by meforkene(m): 7:58pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
The 'Scorpion' (facing a dragon) that was seen in the opening credits is not for joke. |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 8:07pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
kay9: Remember that Ned was actually against the attempted assassination of the Daenerys. Even the Drunk King knew that was necessary. Unknown to him, she was nursing a vendetta against House Stark. "The Usurper and the Lannister and the Stark dogs" as she put it. When you want to overthrow a great House, you do it completely, unless it comes back to haunt you (ask Houses Bolton and Frey) . Ned failed to understand the cutthroat nature of Westerosi politics. In the books, he admitted on many occasions that he was out of his depth in King's Landing. 2 Likes |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Fadedvoices2: 8:10pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
Uyiii: Another misogynistic pig on the loose . I’m rooting for all major male leaders to die before episode 6 |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Endy10(m): 8:12pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
kay9: Yeah Tywin was who he was. But he ruled with fear. I don't think anyone really loved him.. .Apart from his family. Ned was everything you would want in a ruler...Honourable, just, loving, kind and to top it off, a manly man. His people loved him and respected him. Respect not borne out of fear. They would give their life for him without having to think twice. He was leadership made flesh. It's just sad that he was betrayed. Betrayed by someone who he initially didn't trust until his wife told him he could. Yes he didn't understand the politics of kings landing until it was too late. But he did what a just leader would do. It was unfortunate that Robert came back with an injury (Cercie's doing) that would take his life. If not, his plan would have worked. Sometimes you can't know what would happen in the future (Tywin knows a little about this). I would take Ned over Tywin any day. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nobody: 8:13pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
LeSulk: It could denote strong emphasis on a quality you believe can not be disputed. It could also connote sarcasm. Such an expression can be interpreted differently by readers. Don't blame him, blame yourself cause your message isn't 'to the point'. You made it ambiguous! 1 Like |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Fadedvoices2: 8:14pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
oyetpel: Movies downloaded from tfpl seems not to play on iPhone ... most of the times Recommend another source for we iPhone users |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 8:15pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
Endy10: How were both buried? Who honored their burials? Ned died a self confessed traitor. Tywin died fresh off saving Kings Landing from the hands of Ned's 'co-conspirator' Stannis. That's how most Westerosi remembered them. There's also there is the small matter of Ned fathering a 'bastard' while Tywin had none. Tywin never even tolerated whores. We know the last line is a lie but sadly that was the reputation both ended with. 3 Likes |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Endy10(m): 8:17pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
HenryDion: Thank you for this. If he thinks I misinterpreted it, he should come explain what he meant by 'honour'. But I know whichever explanation he gives, he'd still be wrong. 1 Like |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by larride(m): 8:19pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 8:21pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
HenryDion: No. It wasn't ambiguous. He chose not to understand. I gave context when I used the word twice. |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Endy10(m): 8:24pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
LeSulk: There are so many loopholes in what you wrote that it would take only a minute for all your points to leak through. But what I quoted from the statement you made was, 'Tywin died with 'honour'. Emphasis on died. Not buried, or remembered or who attended his wake...Died! No matter how you spin it, you are wrong. You died at the hands of someone you have condemned to die...who happens to be your son...your 'heir'(see, I can do it too)...while taking a shit...on the privy...after fvcking his who're! Honour my foot. 1 Like |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 8:26pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
Endy10: Such fixed mindset is the reason I don't really bother arguing online. I've given the reasons why at their death, Tywin was held in higher esteem to Ned. I've also said that Tywin was more politically astute than Ned. When it comes to personality, Ned was head and shoulders a better man (this is not even up for discussion). You're always free to agree to disagree. |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Fadedvoices2: 8:31pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
larride: The movies on that site have low visual quality . |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Uyiii: 8:37pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
Fadedvoices2:LMAO! You're a pvssy my mehn! Lest I blame you much, you've got an effeminate attributes and manifestations hovering around your existence from your feminine high-pitched 9.7 Fm radio voice to your foppish and niminy-piminy perspectives and projections of the world. I won't verbally slay you here you faggy ponce! Please do well to stroll with me back to the beer parlor. I promise you, a verbal-surgery is gonna be executed on you to9t and your gender orientation be corrected once and for all. You're a disrepute to all cognitive men and even women out there. A Elder! See you on the other side, enough said here. 15 Likes |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by LeSulk(m): 8:40pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
Endy10: Since you wish to analyze how they died let's go there. Ned died at the hands of his daughter's fiance. The same fiance he tried to steal his kingdom. He confessed to the whole Kings Landing. By whole, I mean the high and low. The who'res, the thieves, the lords. Everybody. He was executed in the presence of his two daughters. After his death, his head was put on display for anyone and everyone to jeer at. The details of Tywin's death are sketchy at best to the common people. All they know is that he was murdered by his 'Demon Monkey Son'. |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by vetrovialMan(m): 8:46pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Magnifico2000: 8:47pm On Apr 28, 2019 |
Pls download pinlfor episode 3. |
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