$tunna:
hello big guy,
i've noticed how the voice of a wicked few here who are abusing you is louder than the voice of the many good Nigerians who show concern and care for you and are giving you advice!

its the same situation on the ground...the few wicked Nigerians are so wicked that they try to drown out the actions of the many good Nigerians in the majority in nigeria.

if you can somehow find a way to get past the few who will do you harm...then you will be alright!

you did not indicate if you visit nigeria often or if ever...but one can try and deduce that since you have a property there...you either have been there recently or you have people there who really care for ya and have been there to help you put up ur place.

if you are the type that shine...then your fear of being kidnapped can become very real when you stepped into the streets of nigeria and you look like a foreigner as you sure will for the 1 few weeks!!

do not move your family with you to nigeria if you have not visited there since you left as that will not be very wise!
i have never been to SA but have met people who had and i hear its okay there...but that depends on where you lived there, unlike nigeria where everywhere is uniformly undeveloped!!

so some of your fears about a general deterioration in ur standard of living are very real...and pls forgive some nigerians in nigeria who do not know and think that having the things you listed are a sign of wealth - it's not, that's what average pipo have in some other places.

i hide out for a few when i go to naija...so that that 'i am a stranger attitude' i unconsciously - like everyone, carry with me when im in a new place can fade away a little before i start going out...so, if you do end up there with your family...pls try that 1st as my pipo says that a hen will walk and stand on one leg often in a new place b4 it gets its bearing!

some of your family will feel like harming you too, not just strangers...if they think you have made it big and have abandoned them all these years...
so, keep reading and get to the good advice and forget (STAY AWAY FROM) the vicious attacks here...since you will need to do so too when u do end up moving to nigeria!

so be wise and stay blessed

eldoradoxx: . Am really touched by this post. U see the problem with an average Nigerian of today is that he lacks vision and has no believe in himself anymore. He would rather discuss what GEJ did or hasn't done, what Obasanjo said to Tinubu than discuss real issue that would affect his economic well being. An average standard bakery you see today in major cities are owned and managed Chinese and Lebanese who then employ Nigerians as casual workers and salesgirl / attendants. Is there any Chinese wizardry there is to baking? Is there any secret in bakery known to Lebanese that is not available to Nigerian? Absolutely Nothing! The difference is that one believes that Nigeria is a place to make it despite the power shortage, the insecurity, etc. Whereas the ladlords (Nigerians) believe that what use is it baking in an economy that statistics shows 60% of citizens live below one dollar per day,there is no electricity, the cost of production is on the increase, there is insecurity etc all the litany of excuses. So in same place where people see a failing state, others are coming to make great wealth at our backyards while we are ok with criticising government.

coogar:

if you don't have enough money or a steady stream of income that can give you a mirror image of what you currently enjoy then never go to nigeria. people would build castles in the air for you with their mouths but they are all lying. only 1% of the population are actually living, the others are only existing!

home is where you make it - i dunno how people get home sick. i love nigeria but i don't miss it to the point of thinking about relocation. the time is not right at all so stay put until you can afford a nice house in a well-secured area....if you are married to my sister and you relocate her to nigeria and something terrible happens to her, i would kill you!

How can you even compare the security situation of Nigeria with the United States
can you get in your car and do interstate highway travel in Nigeria at midnight?
do people in the states worry about armed robbers coming to there houses at night
what about car jackings, kidnapping nko.Can you dial 911 in Nigeria and within minutes
3 squad cars are outside your house, I tire for Nigerians and these false sense of
patriotism that has no basis in reality.

Billyonaire: You have wasted 13yrs of your life in SA, now you say you need a place to stay and also mention that you own a property in lekki axis, you are a fat liar. Did you say there are 10 kidnappings in Lekki ? I can only say God punish you. Cos there is no such things here, bring it on clever nematode.

AM USED TO HAVING A SENSE OF RESPECT FOR YOU BUT THIS YOUR POST HAS SHOWN ME THAT YOU MAY BE A TOUT AFTER ALL . HOW CAN YOU BE SO DESTRUCTIVE IN YOUR ARGUMENT? THOUGH I CRITICIZED THE BRO, I WAS AT LEAST SATIRIC IN A WAY. AND LETS BE HONEST, NIGERIA IS GETTING WORSE BY THE DAY! IF THERE IS A WORD LIKE WORSTEST, I WOULD HAVE USED IT. I KNOW THIS CONTRADICTS MY PREVIOUS POST AND MAKES ME LOOK LIKE A HYPOCRITE BUT TRUTH BE TOLD, I POSTED THAT PREVIOUS STUFF BECOS I WAS TRYNA BE PATRIOTIC AND DEFEND MY FATHERLAND. BUT ME AND YOU KNOW THAT SECURITY WISE, ECONOMICALLY, SOCIALLY AND ACADEMICALLY, NIGERIA IS NOTHING TO BE HAPPY ABOUT...

MY HONEST 2 CENTS!

playmode: I have lived in South Africa for close to 13 years but have been planning to return to Nigeria with my family for the past two years. Over the past two years i have sent money home to arrange a place for me and my family to reside in and have done a lot of research to determine what I will do when I get to Nigeria.

All my plans however have been put in disarray with the worsening Political, Infrastructural and Security problems in Nigeria. I just learnt yesterday that there has been close to 10 kidnappings in the lekki axis where i own a property and this just worries me.

Living abroad all these years has definitely "spoilt" me. Now i am used to constant electricity & water, good roads ,clean open market, parks , cheap ADSL internet, advanced security , strong currency , efficient service providers ,quick access to modern technology , world class medical facilities e.t.c All these things makes my life easy and enables me to earn a decent living. My wife is South African just as my kids are and they are also spoiled by the easy life in South Africa.

The recent state of kidnappings in Nigeria has scared my wife who was once eager to move to Nigeria to become reluctant to move. As everyday passes I see the hope of moving to Nigeria with my family fading away. My In laws have even made it clear to me that they do not want their daughter moving permanently to Nigeria because of the kidnapping situation. I have tried defending Nigeria in their presence but everyday news of bombing or kidnapping emanates from Nigeria.

My questions to all Nairalanders especially the ones in Nigeria are these :

(A) If you were in my shoes what will you do?

(B) Is it worth it to come back to Nigeria at this time or should I wait a few more years till the security situation get better?

(C) Should I leave my family in South Africa, come back to Nigeria and visit SA once every two months?

Please only serious minded people need reply and please none of that “I am the first to comment” nonsense. This is a thread directed at mature adults wpith some level of intelligence. Thank you.

exxell:

AM USED TO HAVING A SENSE OF RESPECT FOR YOU BUT THIS YOUR POST HAS SHOWN ME THAT YOU MAY BE A TOUT AFTER ALL . HOW CAN YOU BE SO DESTRUCTIVE IN YOUR ARGUMENT? THOUGH I CRITICIZED THE BRO, I WAS AT LEAST SATIRIC IN A WAY. AND LETS BE HONEST, NIGERIA IS GETTING WORSE BY THE DAY! IF THERE IS A WORD LIKE WORSTEST, I WOULD HAVE USED IT. I KNOW THIS CONTRADICTS MY PREVIOUS POST AND MAKES ME LOOK LIKE A HYPOCRITE BUT TRUTH BE TOLD, I POSTED THAT PREVIOUS STUFF BECOS I WAS TRYNA BE PATRIOTIC AND DEFEND MY FATHERLAND. BUT ME AND YOU KNOW THAT SECURITY WISE, ECONOMICALLY, SOCIALLY AND ACADEMICALLY, NIGERIA IS NOTHING TO BE HAPPY ABOUT...

MY HONEST 2 CENTS!

exxell:

AM USED TO HAVING A SENSE OF RESPECT FOR YOU BUT THIS YOUR POST HAS SHOWN ME THAT YOU MAY BE A TOUT AFTER ALL . HOW CAN YOU BE SO DESTRUCTIVE IN YOUR ARGUMENT? THOUGH I CRITICIZED THE BRO, I WAS AT LEAST SATIRIC IN A WAY. AND LETS BE HONEST, NIGERIA IS GETTING WORSE BY THE DAY! IF THERE IS A WORD LIKE WORSTEST, I WOULD HAVE USED IT. I KNOW THIS CONTRADICTS MY PREVIOUS POST AND MAKES ME LOOK LIKE A HYPOCRITE BUT TRUTH BE TOLD, I POSTED THAT PREVIOUS STUFF BECOS I WAS TRYNA BE PATRIOTIC AND DEFEND MY FATHERLAND. BUT ME AND YOU KNOW THAT SECURITY WISE, ECONOMICALLY, SOCIALLY AND ACADEMICALLY, NIGERIA IS NOTHING TO BE HAPPY ABOUT...

MY HONEST 2 CENTS!

Gbawe:

Don't mind that fake yahoo-yahoo thug. When I saw the thread, I just knew the OP would be insulted by the many fake elements and fraudstars we have here.

nig2change: See Mr playmode, western media have painted this country red, my simple advice is that Nigeria is safer compare to SA but SA have an excellent infrastructure. My uncle was killed in johannesburg in 2003 by unknown gunmen. Also one of my uncle relocated to naija and he lives well in Asaba. Infrastructure is growing but Nigeria is liveable. You sound as if you weren't born here. Challenges abound everywhere. Expatriates lives in Nigeria while can't you. Kidnappers or armrobbers act on information. So beware. Don't fluent your wealth. Those who don't have hope in this country will talk nonsense. Relocation should be in phases

BUSH MAN: @op you sound like a very intelligent man, the only reason i am commenting is my admiration the way you responded to some of the insults on here,it was splendid i have lived in SA also (mimosa hotels,hillbrow JHB) years ago before i moved to england this was when SA was notorious in crime i hear now its better,anyway i can understand exactly how you feel as i have the same problem now aswell (married to an english woman and kids) i am also in a way considering some of the advices on here like you mentioned earlier some of us have the same problem but in denial or perharps not brave enough to ask for advice, i do visit nigeria atleast twice a year and i ve never encounterd any of crimes mentioned on here, thus its not as bad as its been made out to be,perharps because i am not living permanently in naija, whatever advice you get here ends with your decision..cheers mate

euromilion: My friend pls go home,u may not b here 2moro 2 ask those silly question,we were the pple that were in SA when south was south,then hot but good,I see that u're new in SA if u re there only 13yrs,go on ask about these few pple Da south,sumuyi,larry,2pac and many more these are pple that made real money in SA,but where ra they now?all dead now,all their money gone now.a word is a enough.

playmode:

Thank you very much for the advice.

imperiouxx:



And after reading all the folktales, I was like "If someone coated ZA like this, what about those in the US/UK/CA?...... Even Aso rock won't be safe for them to stay and those that married British/Canadians/Americans would be asking for title of Lord"

BUSH MAN: @op you sound like a very intelligent man, the only reason i am commenting is my admiration the way you responded to some of the insults on here,it was splendid i have lived in SA also (mimosa hotels,hillbrow JHB) years ago before i moved to england this was when SA was notorious in crime i hear now its better,anyway i can understand exactly how you feel as i have the same problem now aswell (married to an english woman and kids) i am also in a way considering some of the advices on here like you mentioned earlier some of us have the same problem but in denial or perharps not brave enough to ask for advice, i do visit nigeria atleast twice a year and i ve never encounterd any of crimes mentioned on here, thus its not as bad as its been made out to be,perharps because i am not living permanently in naija, whatever advice you get here ends with your decision..cheers mate

andyanders: I stayed in US over 18yrs and I have home in Nigeria and brought my children home to stay here and study before going back to the US.Nothing wrong coming home and no where in the world you cannot get violence. People die every mins in America.
You can first come home and arrange things back home in Nigeria and later work on getting them back to Nigeria.
Home is home and you can enjoy life in Nigeria if you do away with nocturnal life style and know the kind of friends you keep. Stay away from troubles.You will get all the food things you mentioned here in Nigeria.

991:

good advice from a true brother..
I was also in Mimosa Hotel, I worked with Papa Umuoji when i was new, later moved to Randburg when Mimosa was closed. years later, i decided to come home and settle but did not find it difficult cos i was not married then.
truth be said @ the OP, moving to nigeria won't be a headache if your wife is sincere and truly wants to move with you. the problem is that deep inside their mind they are not always willing to go with us, otherwise no news from nigeria will surpass the horror stories we read in DailySun newspaper in joburg.

playmode:

I understand where you are coming from and get your point.That being said please note that those people you mentioned were hardened criminals who were into the underground world in SA hence why death came early for some of them.Except you are talking of another person, Simunye is still alive and was arrested recently for being involved in the assassination of a South African woman. There are still some Nigerians dying every year in SA but 95% of them are criminals who are involved in drug dealings.Law abiding Nigerians who are mostly into IT rarely ever get into trouble in SA.If you mingle with law abiding people and don't associate with shady characters ,South Africans will not bother you.I live a pretty much low profile life as i enjoy my peace and quiet as well as the company of my family.

euromilion: My friend pls go home,u may not b here 2moro 2 ask those silly question,we were the pple that were in SA when south was south,then hot but good,I see that u're new in SA if u re there only 13yrs,go on ask about these few pple Da south,sumuyi,larry,2pac and many more these are pple that made real money in SA,but where ra they now?all dead now,all their money gone now.a word is a enough.