andyanders:

Best answer to people who has sold their mind to lucify, coming to this forum to vomit the words planted by lucify in their minds.

DASKACE:

God made man rational being and not a mere robot that obeys command, His reason not far fetched so that man will prove his loyalty to Him before he can live as an immortal being. Apply this simple logic: test is set for student in a particular subject after some time of coaching by the teacher, so also was the first man placed in the splendour of a beautiful garden with simply test of not eating from the tree of knowledge. They failed that test by heeding to the first sinner advise of lucifer to eat from the tree. Lucifer already facing eternal condemnation and looking for people to go down with him deceived the first man to eat from the forbidden fruit. If there is one thing God can not stand, it is disobedience ie one being a rebellious to His laid down statues. Believe me bro, anything He does is so justifiable and for every action, there is a reaction. So also, there is consequences for everything we do here on earth whether good or bad. Deut 30:19 I have set life and prosperity, death and adversity, now choose life that you might live.

DASKACE:

He love everybody equal as death is a thing not to be feared, it is one fate awaiting us all. As for this present life we are in now, it is filled with imperfections. Psalm 82:5 'They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course'. That is why this present earth will be destroyed by God someday and create a new heaven and a new earth free from present imperfection. He will reward the overcomers with life eternal here on earth.

adoniza: Why can't God defend himself?

Check some of the so called M.O.G, they all have personal body guards (with arms) and some even on bullet proof cars, yet they tell you that can protect you.

passjamb: THE BIG DEAL IS HE ROSE UP 3 DAYS AFTER, NO OTHER HUMAN BEING HAS SINCE THE WORLD BEGAN. HE CONQUERED DEATH, THAT IS THE BIG DEAL!!!

Daresh:

The word of God never condemned rituals. Since the days of Abraham there have bn sacrifices to God. His issue is with rituals and sacrifices to other gods. He is a jealous God and you must worship him alone.

passjamb: THE BIG DEAL IS HE ROSE UP 3 DAYS AFTER, NO OTHER HUMAN BEING HAS SINCE THE WORLD BEGAN. HE CONQUERED DEATH, THAT IS THE BIG DEAL!!!

ifeness:

Ok laws like stoning kids to death,killing homosexual are old testament laws.

Why is the church still against gay people if those were old laws? And why do you still read from the old testament?

Seems to me The only parts of the bible that christians believe in are the ones they need at the time. The bible is hilarious and anyone that believes in it is ignorant..... It is a funny book to read.
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adoniza:

So why are Christians not offering those animal sacrifices to him anymore?? after all it was used to please him in the past

adoniza:

Look bro, the bible made it clear that God is "Omniscience" which simply means "All knowing", now that said, he already knew that Lucifer would deceive them and that they would surely give-in to that. So what then is he testing??

If he was truely testing them, then he is clearly not omniscient, which means the bible "lied"

Daresh:


Ok I haven't read the part of the Bible that says to stone kids to death. As for homosexuals God HATES homosexuality . He HATES it. That one cannot change. His word cannot change. You can call me ignorant, but I'd rather be a fool for God than a wise man for the world. After all I won't live on this earth pass 100 yrs but the other side is for eternity

Daresh:

Protect himself? From what?

Demain_man:

The wages of sin is death. And Jesus died. And some posters here said he did not commit sin? How? And he died? I am really confused

ifeness:

Did genesis not give an account of more than one god? " let us make man in our image". What happened to the other ones?

If your god loves everyone equally, there wouldn't be hunger,tension etc on earth? Unless you are hiding something. And who are the overcomers? It seems you are telling me what you have been programmed to say. You no not seem to have your own mind.

bolaino: It's a question that should be answered with utmost sincerity, with all honesty and with no religious bias (but I doubt my christian folks will be able to do that).

But let's examine the death of jesus, christians from time immemorial have given us the illusion that it was the greatest and noblest thing any man or God could have done for his people, by paying the ultimate price, ( giving up his life),

But I chose to disagree, in the case of jesus, he is said to be God, and he created all things, having this knowledge how would coming to earth and dying and going back to splendor a big deal? I know of people who have gone through a lot worse for no reward at all, not to talk about jesus, who is supposed to be the beginning and the end, this should have been like a walk in the park for him.

But it was'nt, even knowing fully well that he was going to rise up again and be praised in heaven and on earth for all eternity, he was still scared, begging himself in heaven not to allow the whole thing happen.

Personally I would go through all jesus went through just to be given one billion dollars, I know of people who would go through same tin or even worse for less, did jesus suffer more than the slaves in america? Or did he suffer more than the people who were tortured and beaten to death, in places like cambodia, uganda, rwanda etc, the answer is No, so christians should stop saying how difficult it was for jesus to lay his life down for sinners.

DASKACE:

There are certain things that the human mind can not comprehend, you certainly need the help of the Holy Spirit to decipher them.

passjamb: THE BIG DEAL IS HE ROSE UP 3 DAYS AFTER, NO OTHER HUMAN BEING HAS SINCE THE WORLD BEGAN. HE CONQUERED DEATH, THAT IS THE BIG DEAL!!!

Daresh:

He died for our sin. Yours and mine. Understand that he was pure, without sin, the ultimate sacrificial lamb. Dying for our sins so we can be free of the bondage. That law that said you will die for your sins got amended. The Jesus amendment

adoniza:

From the atheist's who stands against everything he represents...
It's only the deluded humans that tends to do so and even go on to threaten with the old words "the wrath of God" which never happens. And he (God) would just sit there doing nothing because he is absolutely powerless and can't do nada

Daresh:

Because Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice. See the blood of Jesus is all the sacrifice you need. No more slaughtering ram, Jesus has died for you.

ifeness:

"If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death." Deut 21:18-21

This is one of those weird passages in the Old Testament. In my mind is reiterates what a jealous, callous god God is during this time. He is all judgment and punishment...far from a loving dude

No wonder he had jewsus killed

adoniza:

The bible stated that God is "unchangeable" i.e his wisdom and ideas remain the same forever.

So why did he not realize that the animal sacrifies was not necessary in the first place?? And when he realized it, he then sent jesus to be the last and "ultimate" blood sacrifice.

Now tell me, is there any atom of "perfect" in that figure (God)

Daresh:

The wages of sin is death. The son shall die for remiaining in sin. Again that is the Old Testament. The New Testament is LOVE. Love your neigh our as yourself. Even if you choose not to love, God loves you.

Demain_man:

Did not the bible also say that the 'the soul that sinneth shall die?'[/b]Ezekiel 18:20

[b]What i think the @OP is saying in this write-up which no one seems to be addressing is that Jesus is God, Jesus knew that he can be killed and he will rise again after three days because he is GOD. So dying will hold no fear for him since he is GOD anyway. GET IT ALL?

Human beings are afraid of death because we don't know where we are going after death. IF we were like JESUS who is GOD and who created death and can rise up again after death, we will definitely not be afraid to die, whether by the cross, or drowning, or bullet!!! BECAUSE WE WILL SIMPLY RISE AGAIN ANYTIME WE WANT. GET IT??

Daresh:

His death and resurrection goes beyond the physical. He didn't just,ie in the tomb for 2 days and get up on the 3rd. I believe there was some serious battle in the metaphysical. Then again that much I don't know, but I do know that the love and peace that Jesus gives me is truly magical

bolaino: Personally I would go through all jesus went through just to be given one billion dollars, I know of people who would go through same tin or even worse for less, did jesus suffer more than the slaves in america? Or did he suffer more than the people who were tortured and beaten to death, in places like cambodia, uganda, rwanda etc, the answer is No, so christians should stop saying how difficult it was for jesus to lay his life down for sinners.

ifeness:

Does look like you are dealing with different gods. One kills lil babies and the other one killed his own baby to set an example.

Would you kill your child if yahweh ask you to?