ngozievergreen:

exactly, if nigeria really won the war, y are they revisiting those war events today?

ckkris: Nigeria won. Danjuma won a lucrative oil well, Obasanjo won Ota Farms, the Presidency, etc, Abiola won ITT, but MOST battlefield soldiers like Adekunle, Akinrinade and Isama, who saw, felt, and bore the brunt of Biafra, GET NOTHING. Biafran troops fought well, very very well. Example: Corporal Nwafor that captured Nigerian armoured car, died soon after. Morale was very high. Thats why, like ngozievergreen, Biafra lives, even in the hearts of all Nigerians, who are mortally afraid that in the event of any serious instability, NIGERIA WILL NO LONGER RECEIVE THE EUROPEAN SUPPORT that crushed Biafra.

Katsumoto:

Hahahahahaha

Funny Dede1, have you ever seen a war in which all sides were balanced? That is where strategy and execution come in. If your enemy is superior to you and you don't have the nous to defeat him/her, why get into the fight in the first place? Did tiny Vietnam not send the mighty US out of Vietnam? What strategy did Ho Chi Minh execute to win the war?

ckkris: Junior? Al was Lt Col, just one rank following the Scorpion who was a Colonel. And in battlefield all the bigness don't count, as everyone must co-operate, not knowing who is about to drop dead, or seriously injured, even without warning.

DerideGull:


Ho Chi Minh’s Vietnam did not have any meaningful strategy other than the massive supports both in material and personnel guaranteed by USSR and China. Even tiny and neighboring Thailand and Laos supported Vietnam. Biafra had none of such supports yet fought gallantly.

ngozievergreen:

exactly, if nigeria really won the war, y are they revisiting those war events today?

That should be the main concern. I thought if sb wins sth, he forgets about it happily. I mean y the frequent war blames that go on these days(by the same side that won?). The other day ,it was Gowon..........

Food for thought

Top_Bayo:

That is Dede....his comments have a unique signature that can be easily spotted.

Katsumoto:

Hahahahaha

Just as I thought. Dede1 has no clue about military strategy. So which powers supported Vietnam when it defeated France in the French Indochina war that ended in 1954 after the battle of Dien Bien Phu? Vietnam simply out-strategized France.

Let me explain North Vietnam strategy to you. North Vietnam had approximately 500,000 combatants (including Chinese, North Korea, and USSR) while South Vietnam had almost 2 million combatants (including US, Australia, Thailand, New Zealand, Laos, etc). When the war ended in 1975, North Vietnam had lost over 1 million while South Vietnam lost approximately 300,000. These figures do not include civilians. At the start of the war, Ho chi Minh realised that the US public had little appetite for the war with all the anti-war demonstrations and movement. His strategy was simple - don't surrender, send as many US soldiers home in body bags or seriously maimed/wounded.

This strategy meant that many more of his own (North Vietnam) soldiers would die. Some of the battle formations deployed by North Vietnam had no purpose order than to kill American soldiers. With all the hoopla about US deaths in Afghanistan, they have lost less than 3000 lives while the US lost over 60000 lives in Vietnam and over 300,000 wounded. With more bodies arriving, the US congress passed the Case-Church Amendment in 1973 prohibiting US military presence in Vietnam. Saigon fell two years later resulting in the unification of North and South Vietnam.

And Dede1, Thailand supported South Vietnam just like the US.

jaymichael: On a lighter side, if brave generals get shot in the head, and wise generals get shot in the asss, and get promoted afterwards, truthfully, if na you which one you go choose?

Katsumoto:

Hahahahaha

Just as I thought. Dede1 has no clue about military strategy. So which powers supported Vietnam when it defeated France in the French Indochina war that ended in 1954 after the battle of Dien Bien Phu? Vietnam simply out-strategized France.

Let me explain North Vietnam strategy to you. North Vietnam had approximately 500,000 combatants (including Chinese, North Korea, and USSR) while South Vietnam had almost 2 million combatants (including US, Australia, Thailand, New Zealand, Laos, etc). When the war ended in 1975, North Vietnam had lost over 1 million while South Vietnam lost approximately 300,000. These figures do not include civilians. At the start of the war, Ho chi Minh realised that the US public had little appetite for the war with all the anti-war demonstrations and movement. His strategy was simple - don't surrender, send as many US soldiers home in body bags or seriously maimed/wounded.

This strategy meant that many more of his own (North Vietnam) soldiers would die. Some of the battle formations deployed by North Vietnam had no purpose order than to kill American soldiers. With all the hoopla about US deaths in Afghanistan, they have lost less than 3000 lives while the US lost over 60000 lives in Vietnam and over 300,000 wounded. With more bodies arriving, the US congress passed the Case-Church Amendment in 1973 prohibiting US military presence in Vietnam. Saigon fell two years later resulting in the unification of North and South Vietnam.

And Dede1, Thailand supported South Vietnam just like the US.

Tolexander: omo ire bi iyan.

I promise you my grandma for this simple lesson you taught that old cargo.

DerideGull:

Top_Bayo:

Dede...but on a lighter note, what is the meaning of this your new moniker? Why are you deriding Gull?

DerideGull:


A fool at forty is bound to be fool forever. May I ask what lesson you were on about? There is no doubt you and ilk bath in propaganda.

DerideGull:

Do you mean the gulls such as Tolexander?

DerideGull:


I know you are partly Yoruba so being economical with the simple truth is understandable. Vietnam had been under French before the World War II but it was over run by Japan. When the Japanese pulled out of North Vietnam due to allied forces pressure, the people of Vietnam took the opportunity to establish their own government lead by Ho Chi Minh. However after the war, the victorious allies allowed France to govern South Vietnam while North Vietnam was controlled by the non-communist China. In 1946, France expressed intentions to reclaim North Vietnam but North Vietnamese led by Ho Chi Minh resisted the idea and war broke out between two countries.

The France, supported by western allies including USA, elected to appoint Bao Dai as the leader of Vietnam while Russia, China and Eastern Europe refused to recognize his rule instead supported Ho Chi Minh as leader of Vietnam.

I shall stop here so that you have a chance to rethink your begoted stand because Biafra was not allowed to function as a country without war for a day.

Katsumoto:

Hahahahahaha

Funny Dede1, have you ever seen a war in which all sides were balanced? That is where strategy and execution come in. If your enemy is superior to you and you don't have the nous to defeat him/her, why get into the fight in the first place? Did tiny Vietnam not send the mighty US out of Vietnam? What strategy did Ho Chi Minh execute to win the war?

Tolexander: 'the fool saying' applies to you dede the old cargo!

Face katz sodomising you and not me.

You gat no hidden place here, we will always fish you out. Dede1, duru1, dedetwo, deridegull and others at large.

DerideGull:


Ho Chi Minh’s Vietnam did not have any meaningful strategy other than the massive supports both in material and personnel guaranteed by USSR and China. Even tiny and neighboring Thailand and Laos supported Vietnam. Biafra had none of such supports yet fought gallantly.

Katsumoto:

So its no longer because Nigeria had USSR in its corner, its now because Biafra wasn't already a nation. So all the nations such as the US and latin American countries that won independence through war were also independent established countries? Lmao

You stated vietnam had no strategy yet Vietnam overcame two world powers (US & France) in wars and you believe it had no strategy. I have already given you the strategy in defeating the US; do you want me to educate you on the strategy used against France?

I will address the rest of uour post later, let me enjoy my bbq.

Katsumoto:

Hahahahaha

Just as I thought. Dede1 has no clue about military strategy. So which powers supported Vietnam when it defeated France in the French Indochina war that ended in 1954 after the battle of Dien Bien Phu? Vietnam simply out-strategized France.

Let me explain North Vietnam strategy to you. North Vietnam had approximately 500,000 combatants (including Chinese, North Korea, and USSR) while South Vietnam had almost 2 million combatants (including US, Australia, Thailand, New Zealand, Laos, etc). When the war ended in 1975, North Vietnam had lost over 1 million while South Vietnam lost approximately 300,000. These figures do not include civilians. At the start of the war, Ho chi Minh realised that the US public had little appetite for the war with all the anti-war demonstrations and movement. His strategy was simple - don't surrender, send as many US soldiers home in body bags or seriously maimed/wounded.

This strategy meant that many more of his own (North Vietnam) soldiers would die. Some of the battle formations deployed by North Vietnam had no purpose order than to kill American soldiers. With all the hoopla about US deaths in Afghanistan, they have lost less than 3000 lives while the US lost over 60000 lives in Vietnam and over 300,000 wounded. With more bodies arriving, the US congress passed the Case-Church Amendment in 1973 prohibiting US military presence in Vietnam. Saigon fell two years later resulting in the unification of North and South Vietnam.

And Dede1, Thailand supported South Vietnam just like the US.

mascot87: Either baba is clueless or not,coward or not that doesnt matter now but what matters is that baba is alive, strong, well and had a record of d first military civilian democratically elected president of Nigeria.Baba is alive to tell his story and now enjoying himself everywhere he goes. What has this Alabi achieved as a general and who knows him self? Can he step into where obj step both locally and internationally? Bad belle man seeking media attention.We no sabi u abeg go sit down somewhere. Them just dey beef obj cos he is more successful than them mtwwww

DerideGull: Granted that Obasanjo and loudmouthed punk called Adekunle were not soldiers of tactical repute, Gideon Alabi-Isama is a deceitful attention seeker. I wonder why anybody who has donned khaki as uniform is yet to call the goon to order. How could a junior and field commander such as Alani Akinrinade, transplant of 3MCDO, pick his GOC?

Tolexander: there isn't any food for thought in this you've said.

Winners are meant to boast of their victories while losers are meant to complain.

Who are the people revisiting the war if not the actors and players in the war to tell their experiences and make their roles known.

The same way and reason chinua achebe revisited the war.

ckkris: Nigeria won. Danjuma won a lucrative oil well, Obasanjo won Ota Farms, the Presidency, etc, Abiola won ITT, but MOST battlefield soldiers like Adekunle, Akinrinade and Isama, who saw, felt, and bore the brunt of Biafra, GET NOTHING. Biafran troops fought well, very very well. Example: Corporal Nwafor that captured Nigerian armoured car, died soon after. Morale was very high. Thats why, like ngozievergreen, Biafra lives, even in the hearts of all Nigerians, who are mortally afraid that in the event of any serious instability, NIGERIA WILL NO LONGER RECEIVE THE EUROPEAN SUPPORT that crushed Biafra.

Tolexander: there isn't any food for thought in this you've said.

Winners are meant to boast of their victories while losers are meant to complain.

Who are the people revisiting the war if not the actors and players in the war to tell their experiences and make their roles known.

The same way and reason chinua achebe revisited the war.

Ola Johnson: Olusegun Obasanjo is called clueless, and you see nothing wrong in it. You even joined in calling him clueless. If GEJ is called clueless or retardeen some of you would stop at nothing in defending. How clueless you are. Yes, you, you know yourself.
The fact remains that Nigeria won the war and Ojukwu escaped.
Moderators, watch this thread, if anybody drags it like that of Benjamin Adekunle to tribalism, we will speak out.

Ojiofor:

Atleast he didn't wait until OBJ die before opening up unlike the other man.

DerideGull:

Keep fooling around with Dede1’s moniker until he catches you on the childish truancy, olodo.

DerideGull:


I guess you get fancied by telling fabricated crap. The year was 1946 and France could have ceased to exist if not for USA and Britain yet you get amused to call France world power. Any goon can indulge in art of guerrilla warfare but what matter is the sustainability of such strategy.

North Vietnam was supported by countries capable of derailing anything the USA and its allies threw at North Vietnam. North Vietnam received the latest weaponries in Russian, East European and Chinese
armories.

If ordinary Cameroon was in support of Biafra, the outcome of the war would have been different regardless the numerical strength of Nigeria and the support it received from Britain and USSR.

ACM10:

You are also right. Your comment is simply US explanation of North Vietnam's strategy. Remember that Ho Chi Minh did not live to see North Vietnam emerge victorious. The missing ingredients in your explanation which US fails to admit is the "nationalistic zeal" of Vietnamese. Vietnamese are proud of their civilization and they abhors foreign occupiers(They also fought a brief war to expel Chinese after they expelled US, France and their allies). Ho Chi Minh and North Vietnam were driven by the nationalistic zeal to expel foreign troops from their territory and re-unite their country. They were prepared to pay the ultimate price to achieve their goal. Today, US and Vietnam are working together to checkmate Chinese expansionism. This shows how Vietnam hate expansion into their territory.