Chibuebem: we have passed the era of being under the law. The law is now fulfilled in us, as we walk in love. The fact that you do not even understand what i am saying now implies that
-you should have studied harder before creating this thread
-you are an unspiritual man. Spiritual wisdom is incompatible with you..

MEILYN: rubbish.

plaetton:

Unbelievable!

Sir honourable Reyginus,
If I have to show you where the bible tasked Christians to keep the Sabbath holy, then I may have to recommend you for a refresher course in junior Sunday school.
Pls, don't make me do that.

noblefada:
The Sabbath in the law was figurative of what was to come in form of salvation, where God's people will seize from their works (law) and receive the grace of salvation through Jesus Christ and all that is needed is to believe, Heb 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. ( pls read Hebrews chapter 3&4 for better understanding). So through the grace of God that is gotten thru faith in Christ Jesus, believers now have rest in the finished work of Cross. So what happened to the Sabbath day, it has been fulfilled. Mat 5:17: Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

plaetton: @Goshen360, Chiduebem, Haibe, Noblefada etc,

2. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one title shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Here again, Jesus categorically states that till heaven and earth pass ( till the end of the world) nothing whatsoever shall be removed from the law till all be fulfilled.

Again, Goshel, et al, you are sooooo wrong.

haibe:

Just calm down and read okay? This verse you quoted should answer your question but because you are being skeptical you won't ever notice the answer.

"For verily i say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one title shall in no wise pass from the law, TILL ALL BE FULFILLED"

We can rephrase this statement in new english as "UNTIL ALL THE LAW IS FULFILLED, one jot or one title shall in now wise pass away until heaven and earth pass away.

Either way you understand the statements above it simply mean; the law's won't pass away 'until it is fulfilled'

The word until means 'up to the time of something happening'

So Jesus fulfilled the law when he died on the cross of carlvary, he became the perfect sacrifice for our sins, the law was temporary pointing to the permanent and the true will of God 'Jesus'.

When Jesus died he fulfilled the law.

So Now that he has fulfilled the law, it simply means the law can now pass away(heb 8:13) since the new covenant in christ has been made, once again Jesus said "the law won't pass away until it is fulfilled", so now that it is fulfilled, the law can now pass away.

"For christ is the end of the law to everyone that believeth" (Romans 10:4)

When you accept christ into your life, the law ends that moment, you now operate by the leading of the Holy Spirit.

"But if ye be led by the Spirit, ye are not under the law"(galatians 5:18).

When you posess the Spirit of God, you begin to operate in liberty, liberty means freedom from any form of bondage, whether bondage of sin or bondage of the law.

"Stand fast in the liberty wherewith christ has made you free and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage" (galatians 5:1)

"And where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty" (2 corinthians 3:17)

However as christians we do not use our liberty as an occassion to please the flesh but to please God and this is very possible since we are dead to sin and alive to holiness and newness of life through Jesus.

So plaetton, the law has been fulfilled by Jesus and since it has been fulfilled it can now pass away and has passed away for those that believe.

We christians also prove the fulfillment of the law by loving our neigbour as ourselves (Galatians 5:14).

haibe:

We humans are created in the image of God, wonderfully and fearfully made so He won't want us to be murdered even though he can create more.

Killing animals aren't unlawful, infact some are created mainly for meat, do you eat meat or fish or snail or crab??

God cannot be male since he isn't human, i used He because that's the only possible pronoun i know to use.

Goshen360: @ plaetton,

Do. you know why the law, including the 10 commandments is null and void to Christians?

This is because, the law itself says, if you gonna keep the law, you must keep ALL. And the Sabbath is included in this ALL that you have to keep.

Since we cannot pick some and leave others out, the WHOLE is null and void. The ones that are re-introduced to us in the new testament is not because the law says so but because it is part of our new nature in Christ.

Goshen360: The ten commandments is null and void at the cross of Christ including the Sabbath. When the new testament says, don't commit adultery, it's not because the law said so but because it is instructed in the new testament and because adultery is against our new birth and nature.

takeprofit:

nawaoo. so, i have no business with the old testament (what is it still doing in the bible?) since its an executed contract.
lets face the new testament/contract.


btw Tithing is a product of old contract? hw about all these talk about women wearing trouser or not?

haibe:

Obviously Goshen meant murder, not understanding context is what make you find the bible confusing, if you murder someone now is it a sin?

Judas2013:

If "god" is neither a he or she, why not use " it" ? And since you say god is neither male nor female, what image(according to you) are humans created in? But from my understanding the bible did not use the word "create", " make" was the word used. In fact it said " let "us" "make" man in our image and after our "l
ikeness".

So please can you re- explain to me once again.

Thanks

Judas2013:

Yes murder is a crime in most societies on the planet and also a possibility in nature. If it were possible to remove the act murder from the society,it would have been a huge achievement for a "creator" . The makers of Microsoft haven't been able to block viruses from attacking their software,while the makers of apple have been able to. Who among the two would care less about virus? Certainly it would be the apple makers!

What am saying is, virus is not a crime,it only highlights the presence of "imperfection of the creator" . Therefore,if the" creator" of humans,which is god(according to you) is perfect with its creation, murder or any form of sin would have been eliminated from human possible behaviour.

The above leads to a kind of evidence that it is the fault of the creators and not the humans/creation.

takeprofit:

makes some sense but still trying to understand.
does it mean God working for six days to create the world is also a figurative of man's work to obtain salvation by obeying the laws?

Heathen: The 10 commandments are null and void.....................finally i can covet my neighbours' OX.
I......i don't know okay, i just envy the man and his OX!

haibe:

You need to be born again, if you are you won't covet because you would have been transformed into a new creature, a creature that operates in love by the leading of the Holy Spirit, if you truely love your neighbour, you won't covet his property.

Just accept christ, you would understand what i mean.

nnofaith: save your preaching, we are beyond redemption!

nnofaith: save your preaching, we are beyond redemption!

Goshen360:

You have a better covenant in Christ. The old covenant was between God and Israel, the new is between God, through Christ and the church, as many that believes. You should better understand your own covenant rather than understanding another man's covenant.

Tithing, trouser for women are not part of the new covenant.

takeprofit:

Thanks for ur contributions, if not some pple wld be more confused. the matter has bcome simplified. i have more difficult questions to understand here.
https://www.nairaland.com/1435868/bible-babble-contradictions-holy-bible

takeprofit:

Thanks for ur contributions, if not some pple wld be more confused. the matter has bcome simplified. i have more difficult questions to understand here.
https://www.nairaland.com/1435868/bible-babble-contradictions-holy-bible

macof:
Christians are confused people.

haibe:

You need to be born again, if you are you won't covet because you would have been transformed into a new creature, a creature that operates in love by the leading of the Holy Spirit, if you truely love your neighbour, you won't covet his property.

Just accept christ, you would understand what i mean.

haibe:

If you have the presence of God in your life as a christian, you won't think of commiting murder

haibe:

If you have the presence of God in your life as a christian, you won't think of commiting murder

Judas2013:

And talking about God. Isn't that supposed to be on the inside of everyone? Unless you are talking about another god here.

Can a human be separate from god(his inner self)? i doubt! unless you experience an illusion of being without one

haibe:

God is a supreme being, i don't mean your inner self, when one becomes born again, God comes to dwell in him/her in the person of the Holy Spirit.

haibe:

Just calm down and read okay? This verse you quoted should answer your question but because you are being skeptical you won't ever notice the answer.

"For verily i say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one title shall in no wise pass from the law, TILL ALL BE FULFILLED"

We can rephrase this statement in new english as "UNTIL ALL THE LAW IS FULFILLED, one jot or one title shall in now wise pass away until heaven and earth pass away.

Either way you understand the statements above it simply mean; the law's won't pass away 'until it is fulfilled'

The word until means 'up to the time of something happening'

So Jesus fulfilled the law when he died on the cross of carlvary, he became the perfect sacrifice for our sins, the law was temporary pointing to the permanent and the true will of God 'Jesus'.

When Jesus died he fulfilled the law.

So Now that he has fulfilled the law, it simply means the law can now pass away(heb 8:13) since the new covenant in christ has been made, once again Jesus said "the law won't pass away until it is fulfilled", so now that it is fulfilled, the law can now pass away.

"For christ is the end of the law to everyone that believeth" (Romans 10:4)

When you accept christ into your life, the law ends that moment, you now operate by the leading of the Holy Spirit.

"But if ye be led by the Spirit, ye are not under the law"(galatians 5:18).

When you posess the Spirit of God, you begin to operate in liberty, liberty means freedom from any form of bondage, whether bondage of sin or bondage of the law.

"Stand fast in the liberty wherewith christ has made you free and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage" (galatians 5:1)

"And where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty" (2 corinthians 3:17)

However as christians we do not use our liberty as an occassion to please the flesh but to please God and this is very possible since we are dead to sin and alive to holiness and newness of life through Jesus.

So plaetton, the law has been fulfilled by Jesus and since it has been fulfilled it can now pass away and has passed away for those that believe.

We christians also prove the fulfillment of the law by loving our neigbour as ourselves (Galatians 5:14).