italo: ^^^

1. Are you Catholic?

2. Do you believe in the teachings of the Catholic Church?

elampiro:

Don't try to be too smart.

Where is it written in the bible that a conclave can't produce an Antipope? How come we have had bad Popes in the past, siphoning money to give their families stupendous life styles, selling of indulgences, etc.


When the Catholic church has been reduced first to the pentecostal level and finally turn upside down to a one world religion, with the Eucharist changed from the body and blood of Christ to a mere sign of communion for all peoples of all faith to share, I will know which side you shall be. When you see Cardinals splits and a major part of the church teaching that sexual sins are no longer sins and new age icons replace the crucifix and the rest, I will know which side you will be. The schismatic church will be the one teaching errors while the true Catholism will be pushed underground. Everyone including the priests will have to make a choice.

It is coming, it is starting...

elampiro: Look at the supposed humble Pope Francis rubbishing every tradition and ridiculing his predecessors before the media is that how it should be?

elampiro:
Do you believe in the word of God?

So you want me to clap when the word of God is turn upside down or twisted to please the world? Pope Francis is ridiculing Catholic tradition and his predecessor and getting ovations from pagans.

Syncan:

You earlier said I know nothing on the issue, and i said "only if you knew..."

I told you to pray, I told you to pray, It is from experience, it is in obedience to the mother's call. You are slipping away, you are slipping away, It was Peter that was made the shepherd, It was peter that was made the shepherd. It was not your "internet visionary", It was not your "internet visionary". Wait till your prophecy of woes take place, wait till your prophecy of woes take place. The Lord has not abandoned his people, the Lord has not abandoned his people!

elampiro:


Do you believe in the word of God?

So you want me to clap when the word of God is turn upside down or twisted to please the world? Pope Francis is ridiculing Catholic tradition and his predecessor and getting ovations from pagans.

elampiro:

This prophecies are not only from Maria. John Leary clearly has been saying samething among other hundred things he said which have come to pass.

But again, listen to Pope Francis. Only today again he ridiculed the mother church. He is shaming catholics. Everything catholic is now seen to be wrong.

I had earlier left this issue but Italo wants to prove she knows too much. I ignored her she kept looking for my trouble.

Syncan:

Do you know that a group of "traditionalists" in the catholic church sees father Gobbi's messages as false? You acclaim it as true, yet claiming traditionalist. What makes John Leary's messages true? What do you know about Veronica Leuken? Which visionaries apart from the "once a boy" you mentioned, do you know in Nigeria? I have told you, say your rosaries, attend Mass, pray for the clergy, church and all. He has ridiculed no church, I am not ashamed of him, Keep your eyes open and your mouth shut, until you know what you are talking about.

italo: @ Elampiro,

Are you Catholic?

Do you believe in the teachings of the Catholic Church?

elampiro:

I believe in the teachings of the church.

italo:

You are aware that you are now in schism with the Catholic Church and you may not receive the sacraments?

elampiro:

Which church law are you trying to prove to me? Meanwhile you look at Pope Francis in his schismatic comments aginst the Mother church ^^^ .

elampiro:

I know far far more than you think. I am well grounded. I know several visionaries in Nigeria.

Lastly, I used to read the locution site you posted on this thread. So don't think I am a novice to private and public revelations.

elampiro: You certainly do not have an idea of the history behind the person you are arguing with. I have witnessed so much in different places. Sun miracles, visible Marian apparition on the wall, etc.

I have told you, you don't love the church more than I do. I am highly pained about what I see now.

elampiro: The Pope: how the Church will change

I am grateful for this question. The answer is this: I believe in Being, that is in the tissue from which forms, bodies arise.
"And I believe in God, not in a Catholic God, there is no Catholic God, there is God and I believe in Jesus Christ, his incarnation. Jesus is my teacher and my pastor, but God, the Father, Abba, is the light and the Creator. This is my Being. Do you think we are very far apart?"


Pope Francis (ap)

http://www.repubblica.it/cultura/2013/10/01/news/pope_s_conversation_with_scalfari_english-67643118/

Directly from the magazine Pope Francis gave the interview.

Tomorrow I expect to see people trying to tell what the Pope really said.

I shake my head.

elampiro: Goodnight people. I am so pained I can hardly sleep.

Syncan:


I told you to pray, the devil is putting a mirage before you, Now you ascribe both the atheist interviewer's word to the Pope. There was a question of thinking about existence put forward by the Pope:

Pope Francis:You must ask yourself, of course, like everyone else, who we are, where we come from, where we are going. Even children ask themselves these questions. And you?

Interviewer : I am grateful for this question. The answer is this: I believe in Being, that is in the tissue from which forms, bodies arise.

[b]Pope Francis: And I believe in God, not in a Catholic God, there is no Catholic God, there is God and I believe in Jesus Christ, his incarnation. Jesus is my teacher and my pastor, but God, the Father, Abba, is the light and the Creator. This is my Being. Do you think we are very far apart?
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Please Elampiro, is there a catholic God?

italo:

Just informing you.

You're in schism.

elampiro:

Are you kidding me? Are you defending the indefensible? Are you so naive?

The Catholic God is God the Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. Some Christian sects share same believe.

There are some christian sects which deny the divinity of God, like the Jehova witness. There are some religion which do not believe in the divinity of Christ but preach Him to be the Incarnate Master (Teacher), like the gray message. There are some religion which believe Jesus was just a prophet, like the Muslim. Now you see how the Pope is pushing for a one world religion while ridiculing, undermining and rejecting Catholic core teachings. Be wise.

Syncan:

Oh God! How do I respond to this? The more you know, the humbler, cautious and more quiet you become.

I posted that site just to let you know that there are contrary messages to the one you hold so strongly. I had as well earlier said something about Jonah.

Syncan:


Sleep shouldn't be your focus now, You should be on your knees more often...and I was on mine, for you as well.

elampiro:

Don't try to be too smart.

Where is it written in the bible that a conclave can't produce an Antipope? How come we have had bad Popes in the past, siphoning money to give their families stupendous life styles, selling of indulgences, etc.


When the Catholic church has been reduced first to the pentecostal level and finally turn upside down to a one world religion, with the Eucharist changed from the body and blood of Christ to a mere sign of communion for all peoples of all faith to share, I will know which side you shall be. When you see Cardinals splits and a major part of the church teaching that sexual sins are no longer sins and new age icons replace the crucifix and the rest, I will know which side you will be. The schismatic church will be the one teaching errors while the true Catholism will be pushed underground. Everyone including the priests will have to make a choice.

It is coming, it is starting...

elampiro:

I can only be cautious and quiet of what I have not discerned.


Pope Francis said the priests should preach less of abortion, contraception and homosexuality. Now you have joined him in trying to shut me. Are you one of them? Who are you working for? You defend lies and anti-gospel teachings. Everyone should keep quite until the Catholic church is no longer Catholic.

Be wise.