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Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 6:57pm On Aug 12, 2014 |
Thanks everyone for your contributions.. 1 Like |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 7:25pm On Aug 12, 2014 |
Yes I also believe John was a prophet who was call even before he was born. The question he answered was not "are you a prophet?" but "are you the prophet?" Showing the pharisees were asking after a particular prophet not just any prophet. John's answer probably stems from two reasons.., 1) He wasn't really unaware of his prophethood but at the same time he knew he wasn't the particular prophet they were asking after. Therefore he was right to answer "NO" to the question "are you the/that prophet?" As for his prophethood, even his own father was inspired and prophecised it upon his birth when he said in Luke 1:76..."You my child will be called the prophet of the Most High God", .... This was further affirmed by the belief of the jewish people ..Matt 14:5, and the words of Jesus Christ himself. Matt11:9. 2) A feeling of un-worthiness: John said something, "He is coming after me, and I am not good enough even to untie his sandals" John 1:27. John did not just feel unworthy to be placed on per with Jesus but even to be considered his messenger--a prophet of God. He preferred only to be seen as "a voice" instead of a prophet. 4 Likes |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 7:35pm On Aug 12, 2014 |
Syncan:This post actually brought out the bone of contention in the question John answered. Good one. |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Syncan(m): 7:39pm On Aug 12, 2014 |
SalC: This post actually brought out the bowl of contention in the question John answered. Good one. Thanks Sis. I am not sure there was any bowl in contention there, John wasn't know for his appetite, he actually fed on wild bees and honey, so he couldn't have been dragging any bowl with them . |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 7:45pm On Aug 12, 2014 |
debbie: Many times we easily give up on a brother whom we feel is lost or derailed.Its not easy human-wise to go after that singular sheep....after all we have more than enough in the sheepfold,so naturally we will ask,why will i have to worry and disturb myself?But to our God,a soul is as important as the others.That is why he is all Loving and caring. Syncan:Good! But then how can we relate this to this passage Matt 18:15-17 V17 talked about treating one who didn't listen as though he were a pagan or tax collector. Isn't that an example of giving up on the said person? |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 7:47pm On Aug 12, 2014 |
Syncan:You can't be sure he wasn't hungry na Smh |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 7:55pm On Aug 12, 2014 |
damerry:Now this deserve that baccalaureate award Good one! 1 Like |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by damerry(m): 8:04pm On Aug 12, 2014 |
^1500 thanks . Did i mention that my head is beginning to swell? . Abeg oh. 1 Like |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by damerry(m): 8:32pm On Aug 12, 2014 |
SalC: Yes I also believe John was a prophet who was call even before he was born. The question he answered was not "are you a prophet?" but "are you the prophet?" Showing the pharisees were asking after a particular prophet not just any prophet. John's answer probably stems from two reasons.., Something new! Gaining new insights here. 1 Like |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by damerry(m): 8:44pm On Aug 12, 2014 |
debbie: To everybody i say good morning,and specially to me sister Salc...thanks for this bible discussion.please i will like us to contribute and also learn too. I missed this post while i was still typing mine in the morning. You've succinctly said it all in the most articulated manner. |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 9:13pm On Aug 12, 2014 |
debbie: To everybody i say good morning,and specially to me sister Salc...thanks for this bible discussion.please i will like us to contribute and also learn too.Exactly, it is one thing to be gifted and another thing to discern. Nice one! |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 9:21pm On Aug 12, 2014 |
More contributions are also welcome.... Next question loading..... |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Kamsified: 9:26pm On Aug 12, 2014 |
SalC: More contributions are also welcome....This discussion is very interesting *Following very closely* |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Syncan(m): 9:34pm On Aug 12, 2014 |
SalC: This Sister sef, so Jesus treatment of the tax collectors was that of abandonment abi? In that speech of his, you should see the meaning of the word "where sin abounds, grace abounds more" Rom5:20. Consider what he told Peter later in Vs 21. How many times will you forgive? |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Rich4god(m): 9:57pm On Aug 12, 2014 |
Kamsified:Shift make I join you... |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 9:58pm On Aug 12, 2014 |
Did John the baptist at any moment doubted Jesus? The next day John saw Jesus coming to him, and said, "There is the Lamb of God, who takes away the sins of the world. John 1:29 The next day John was standing there again with two of his disciples, when he saw Jesus walking by "There is the Lamb of God!" he said. John 1: 35-36 When John the Baptist heard in prison about the things that Christ was doing, he sent some of his disciples to him. "Tell us" they asked Jesus, "are you the one John said was going to come , or should we expect someone else? Matt 11:2-3 Isn't it interesting to note that the fore runner of the Messiah who also showed the Messiah to the world turned round to ask the Messiah if he is actually the one whom he haas been talking about or should they expect another? Even when he heard the father during Jesus' baptism .."This is my beloved son, in whom I am well pleased" Now the question is... 1) Can we say John was doubting Jesus being the Messiah? 2) If yes why? 3) could it be that this passage was about something else and not doubt? 4) How can we relate the action of John to our own actions as Christians? 1 Like |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 10:12pm On Aug 12, 2014 |
Kamsified:welcome 1 Like |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 10:20pm On Aug 12, 2014 |
Syncan:Lol it seems the forgiveness and grace has a point of saturation 1 Like |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Syncan(m): 10:34pm On Aug 12, 2014 |
SalC: Lol it seems the forgiveness and grace has a point of saturation Yeah "Until seventy times seven" 1 Like |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Kamsified: 5:32am On Aug 13, 2014 |
Rich4god: Shift make I join you...*Shifts n offers him pen/paper* Welcome My prince,lets just observe n take notes. A very interesting discussion going on here |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by damerry(m): 8:30am On Aug 13, 2014 |
SalC: Now the question is... No, John did not doubt. 2) If yes why? Not yes. 3) could it be that this passage was about something else and not doubt? Yes. John knew very well that Jesus was the messiah and That he (john) was the the last of the prophets. However, to John and his disciples, Jesus was performing below or not according to the high expectations they all had of this long awaited messiah. John sent his disciples to ask that question as their motivation had begun to wane, whatever be the answer from Jesus, in as much as Jesus will not deny that he is the messiah, will be a consolation and hope for better days ahead. For john, that was a consolation as he knew that death was nigh. And he wished that his disciples who had come to him as means to find the end which they are seeking ( Jesus) will by that encounter with Jesus develop faith in Him and be incorporated as Jesus disciples. 4)How can we relate the action of John to our own actions as Christians? Many a time our expectations of what we want/expect from God seems not coming or below expectations, Just like John, we need consolation to know that God is still with us anyway(a sign of better days to come). And like John disciples, we need a firm stand in God to be still and know that he is God. Exodus 14:14 Good Morning. Wishing all a fulfilled day. 3 Likes |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by debbie(f): 1:51pm On Aug 13, 2014 |
@damerry.....you have given a new insight into those questions. This is one of the problems we have in our present age,when we expect or pray we have an expectation,but when its like what we are looking at isnt what we are seeing.....we tend to start doubting God or even grow faint-hearted.But that does not change who God is. Remember when John was beheaded,his own disciples scattered and some thought that was the end of their salvation,but the few that held on to their faith went ahead to accept the true Messiah. Like my sister SalC asked......really many times we see ourselves doubting what God has told us and even his words,just because things turned out different.I assure you my brethren...THOSE WHO PUT THEIR TRUST IN THE LORD ARE LIKE MOUNT ZION WHICH CAN NOT BE SHAKEN. 3 Likes |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by chozkiel(m): 2:13pm On Aug 13, 2014 |
ProphetUdeme: is mary also included in the trinity? Why bless her name.. She is dead long ago and her bones awaiting rapturecan u tell us were de bones are? holyidiot |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by babestell(f): 6:36pm On Aug 13, 2014 |
Following from the side lines. Good work everyone |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 10:50pm On Aug 13, 2014 |
*Yawns*...... |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Nobody: 10:54pm On Aug 13, 2014 |
*drives in with a bottle of schnapp* hello salC |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by SalC: 11:31pm On Aug 13, 2014 |
frankben: *drives in with a bottle of schnapp*You are now transgendered? |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Nobody: 11:33pm On Aug 13, 2014 |
SalC: You are now transgendered?lol.... Any problem with that? francistony taught me anyway? |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Nobody: 11:37pm On Aug 13, 2014 |
frankben: lol.... Any problem with that? Lol. Taught you gini? E jor, noe koba me fa. |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Nobody: 11:44pm On Aug 13, 2014 |
FrancisTony:nwanne, me no dey speak yoruba and i no dey hear am.... Wetin i know be say.... I learnt from a great master |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Nobody: 12:07am On Aug 14, 2014 |
frankben: nwanne, me no dey speak yoruba and i no dey hear am.... Wetin i know be say.... I learnt from a great master A sim gi e kwu kwa na ihem emeghi. Lol. Hope you understands Ibo. Well, I never taught you anything. |
Re: A Thread For Catholics by Nobody: 12:10am On Aug 14, 2014 |
FrancisTony:i understand am wella.... How did you get to learn yoruba? |
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