No he isnt

chikk:



You took that right from my mouth..

mhizzcherry:
Am a non catholic,who is planning to get married to a Catholic, a knight of St Johns,he wants us to get married in the Catholic church but my parents would never agree,what should I do plz

what denomination are your parents?


Has the matter of marriage come up in a "formal" way at home and they expressly rejected it or are you presuming from experience?

Marriage is considered an important thing for any Catholic, it is not just a ceremony or a contract, it is a sacrament, an effective sign and covenant ordained by God to give grace to the couple to sanctify their union and kick start for them a journey together to heaven.... It is almost impossible for you to find any serious catholic who would miss receiving this sacrament in the church.

You'll need to gauge your parents response on the issue, it may not be as bad as you think... If it is really that bad then you guys need to have a long discussion, find compromises etc. But I'll be blunt with you this is a hard one, many Catholics including myself will insist on a catholic marriage.


I pray it all works out well for you guys... Have you talked to your spouse about your parents position in the matter?

mhizzcherry:
No o,he has been there right from when he was a teenager,after his dad who was a Knight died,he is the first born, i think he cant get to a. Certain position till he is married

I'm not an expert in knighthood...does anyone here know if it passes from father to son? Don't think I have noticed that before

mhizzcherry:
No o,he has been there right from when he was a teenager,after his dad who was a Knight died,he is the first born, i think he cant get to a. Certain position till he is married

Well, that's not the point of your query anyway.

As per your question, the post by Ubenedictus is a place to start. First, where to wed shouldn't be the first thing. To help you with his post, here is a simple checklist.

Has the marriage process commenced formally?
Do you intend attending the catholic church afterwards?
Is the wedding the only thing your parents are against?
Have they even expressed their objection openly?

Ubenedictus:
I'm not an expert in knighthood...does anyone here know if it passes from father to son? Don't think I have noticed that before

Without delving much into this, we in these parts tend to exaggerate things a lot. Sometimes we can't even distinguish rules from fashionable. Eg Married deacons in Nigeria...

mhizzcherry:
Am a non catholic,who is planning to get married to a Catholic, a knight of St Johns,he wants us to get married in the Catholic church but my parents would never agree,what should I do plz

I did a little checking on your profile just to make sure you are not trolling... Seems you do have a genuine case.

You wrote somewhere that your parents were pastors... That usually complicates issues since some pastors hate the Catholic Church.
You also mentioned somewhere that you have no problem converting, what are your parents reaction to that?

You also wrote something about catechism classes for baptism and confirmation, have you finally began? How is it?

What stage will you say you marriage thing is now, really serious or casual?

Again is your spouse aware of your parents reservation? What does he say?

Sorry for the plenty questions I need a background if I will be able to speak objectively here.

Syncan:


Without delving much into this, we in these parts tend to exaggerate things a lot. Sometimes we can't even distinguish rules from fashionable. Eg Married deacons in Nigeria...

on a lighter note, a friend once told me that after the VAT II council married deacons were actually a thing in kogi state and they still exist there but it seems the Nigerian bishops put a lid on that some years ago and no more are been ordained

Ubenedictus:
on a lighter note, a friend once told me that after the VAT II council married deacons were actually a thing in kogi state and they still exist there but it seems the Nigerian bishops put a lid on that some years ago and no more are been ordained

Oh is that so. You can see why you'll excuse a Nigerian Catholic for not knowing its possible.

Ayam not even understanding...

Please you people should explain Abeg.

Agreement between both partners and families aside, I want to understand the lady. Knighthood as I know it isn't for young single men (to put it simply). Please how is the man a knight? I want to understand that before I Say what I'm thinking.

chikk:
Ayam not even understanding...

Please you people should explain Abeg.

Agreement between both partners and families aside, I want to understand the lady. Knighthood as I know it isn't for young single men (to put it simply). Please how is the man a knight? I want to understand that before I Say what I'm thinking.

I dey your back on this one... Want to learn too...

Happy New year brethren... And compliment of the season.

Salc and kamsy, where my Christmas rice.

Happy new year brethren. The best of the years so far.

It's page 500 again. If I no post here na wetin I gain?

Ubenedictus:
I'm not an expert in knighthood...does anyone here know if it passes from father to son? Don't think I have noticed that before

Well I can't say am sure but sometime last year a friend of mine posted that he was made a knight of St Johns after his father.
I don't know if that means it was passed down from father to son or he merely decided to be one; following his father's footsteps.

Rich4god:
Happy New year brethren... And compliment of the season.

Salc and kamsy, where my Christmas rice.

Sorry it is finished.

SalC:
It's page 500 again. If I no post here na wetin I gain?

lol, someone already stole the first post from us all.


Sorry

SalC:
It's page 500 again. If I no post here na wetin I gain?

They dey share kpuff kpuff for commenters on page 500?

Ife adikwa egwu o

He has never been married tho,I also do have a friend in the knighthood he was recommended by the bishop,he is 26 and not married too

Ubenedictus:
I'm not an expert in knighthood...does anyone here know if it passes from father to son? Don't think I have noticed that before

I asked him this and he said the Bishop also recommends young men using his discretion

chikk:
Ayam not even understanding...

Please you people should explain Abeg.

Agreement between both partners and families aside, I want to understand the lady. Knighthood as I know it isn't for young single men (to put it simply). Please how is the man a knight? I want to understand that before I Say what I'm thinking.

They don't hate pastors as my mum was a catholic bfr getting married,her family are still Catholics
My mum doesn't have a problem with me converting as I mentioned earlier she was a catholic, since I plan to join charismatic
I had started the classes then but stopped.
Serious,he don kuku come today with wine to make his intentions known.
Definitely, he knows my parents won't agree for a catholic wedding, he is actually scared abt it although he said if it raises too much issues we might just do the traditional and a reception and maybe fix the wedding after then
I actually love attending Catholic church,I av a rosary and a scapler,most times for St Anthony of Padua to interced for me when I lose something,damn it works everytime,e,maybe because I have faith that it would,sometimes I pray for St Rita to interceded,am planning to say the Novena but I dunno if it wud work for Non catholics,if u can answer that plz do

Ubenedictus:



I did a little checking on your profile just to make sure you are not trolling... Seems you do have a genuine case.

You wrote somewhere that your parents were pastors... That usually complicates issues since some pastors hate the Catholic Church.
You also mentioned somewhere that you have no problem converting, what are your parents reaction to that?

You also wrote something about catechism classes for baptism and confirmation, have you finally began? How is it?

What stage will you say you marriage thing is now, really serious or casual?

Again is your spouse aware of your parents reservation? What does he say?

Sorry for the plenty questions I need a background if I will be able to speak objectively here.

We even stay in separate states,like I stay in Lagos while he is in Delta.It wud av been much more easier to convince them if we both stay in same state,I really dunno if u get my point or how best to explain it since I am explaining on chats

Ubenedictus:
what denomination are your parents?


Has the matter of marriage come up in a "formal" way at home and they expressly rejected it or are you presuming from experience?

Marriage is considered an important thing for any Catholic, it is not just a ceremony or a contract, it is a sacrament, an effective sign and covenant ordained by God to give grace to the couple to sanctify their union and kick start for them a journey together to heaven.... It is almost impossible for you to find any serious catholic who would miss receiving this sacrament in the church.

You'll need to gauge your parents response on the issue, it may not be as bad as you think... If it is really that bad then you guys need to have a long discussion, find compromises etc. But I'll be blunt with you this is a hard one, many Catholics including myself will insist on a catholic marriage.


I pray it all works out well for you guys... Have you talked to your spouse about your parents position in the matter?

chikk:
Ayam not even understanding...

Please you people should explain Abeg.

Agreement between both partners and families aside, I want to understand the lady. Knighthood as I know it isn't for young single men (to put it simply). Please how is the man a knight? I want to understand that before I Say what I'm thinking.

Please note that we have a few standard requirements to join The Knights which are:

1. Roman Catholic man over the age of 16.

2. That you do not belong to any secret society forbidden by the Catholic Church.

3. That you be recommended by your Pastor and a Knight of. St. John in good standing.

This seem to be the basic written requirements, but it's not common in Nigeria to see single young men as knights, because it's like "class thing" in Nigeria.

mhizzcherry:
We even stay in separate states,like I stay in Lagos while he is in Delta.It wud av been much more easier to convince them if we both stay in same state,I really dunno if u get my point or how best to explain it since I am explaining on chats

I do understand ur point, I'm a little surprised though that your mum would also be against a catholic wedding.
it is usually a bad idea to do the trad rites with reception and postpone d white wedding because it comes with d expectation of living as husband and wife which is not right.

Ask your guy if he is willing to be married in a protestant church. what denomination did you grow up in? there may be a compromise somewhere?

mhizzcherry:
They don't hate pastors as my mum was a catholic bfr getting married,her family are still Catholics
My mum doesn't have a problem with me converting as I mentioned earlier she was a catholic, since I plan to join charismatic
I had started the classes then but stopped.
Serious,he don kuku come today with wine to make his intentions known.
Definitely, he knows my parents won't agree for a catholic wedding, he is actually scared abt it although he said if it raises too much issues we might just do the traditional and a reception and maybe fix the wedding after then
I actually love attending Catholic church,I av a rosary and a scapler,most times for St Anthony of Padua to interced for me when I lose something,damn it works everytime,e,maybe because I have faith that it would,sometimes I pray for St Rita to interceded,am planning to say the Novena but I dunno if it wud work for Non catholics,if u can answer that plz do

If St. Anthony works for you as a protestant, why do you nurse a doubt that St. Rita would? I am glad to see that you're one who actually loves the church.

On the matter of your wedding, please stop entertaining fear. Roses grow on thorn for a reason, you have shown love for the man and his church too, then make up your mind that you're going to Marry him. Pray with faith that everything will turn out fine, it will surely. If your dad could pull your mum out of the Catholic Church, I doubt he will be able to withstand pressure to allow you wed in the Catholic Church. Why am finding it difficult to make suggestion is because it's all yet based on speculation. Your Father has not accepted the guy and now says wedding in Catholic church is his problem. You can actually go in line with having a traditional marriage that is loud in your father's place and a quiet wedding in the Catholic church same day or separate days. There are several ways to go about this and keep everyone satisfied, but please do not compromise a catholic wedding, it's for your own good spiritually and socially. You can always receive help and guidance from the Parish Priest of any Parish you attend. If you tarry here long enough, you may as well get advice as you move along and face each obstacle step by step.

Syncan:



If St. Anthony works for you as a protestant, why do you nurse a doubt that St. Rita would? I am glad to see that you're one who actually loves the church.

On the matter of your wedding, please stop entertaining fear. Roses grow on thorn for a reason, you have shown love for the man and his church too, then make up your mind that you're going to Marry him. Pray with faith that everything will turn out fine, it will surely. If your dad could pull your mum out of the Catholic Church, I doubt he will be able to withstand pressure to allow you wed in the Catholic Church. Why am finding it difficult to make suggestion is because it's all yet based on speculation. Your Father has not accepted the guy and now says wedding in Catholic church is his problem. You can actually go in line with having a traditional marriage that is loud in your father's place and a quiet wedding in the Catholic church same day or separate days. There are several ways to go about this and keep everyone satisfied, but please do not compromise a catholic wedding, it's for your own good spiritually and socially. You can always receive help and guidance from the Parish Priest of any Parish you attend. If you tarry here long enough, you may as well get advice as you move along and face each obstacle step by step.

Fr Syncan has spoken...

I grew up in a Pentecostal church.I think she is against it because they would have to travel all the way to Asaba for the white

Ubenedictus:
I do understand ur point, I'm a little surprised though that your mum would also be against a catholic wedding.
it is usually a bad idea to do the trad rites with reception and postpone d white wedding because it comes with d expectation of living as husband and wife which is not right.

Ask your guy if he is willing to be married in a protestant church. what denomination did you grow up in? there may be a compromise somewhere?

mhizzcherry:
I grew up in a Pentecostal church.I think she is against it because they would have to travel all the way to Asaba for the white

Comfortable transport and accomodation can be arranged na...
OR he can do it in a catholic church close to where your parents live.

chikk:

Fr Syncan has spoken...

indeed he has.

chikk:


Fr Syncan has spoken...

Ubenedictus:
indeed he has.

Shaking my head.

mhizzcherry:
They don't hate pastors as my mum was a catholic bfr getting married,her family are still Catholics
My mum doesn't have a problem with me converting as I mentioned earlier she was a catholic, since I plan to join charismatic
I had started the classes then but stopped.
Serious,he don kuku come today with wine to make his intentions known.
Definitely, he knows my parents won't agree for a catholic wedding, he is actually scared abt it although he said if it raises too much issues we might just do the traditional and a reception and maybe fix the wedding after then
I actually love attending Catholic church,I av a rosary and a scapler,most times for St Anthony of Padua to interced for me when I lose something,damn it works everytime,e,maybe because I have faith that it would,sometimes I pray for St Rita to interceded,am planning to say the Novena but I dunno if it wud work for Non catholics,if u can answer that plz do

As with other prayer, sayin NOVENA wil do.

Syncan:




Shaking my head.

Why are you shaking it? Did you not speak and a very nice one too?

jnrbayano:


Why are you shaking it? Did you not speak and a very nice one too?

I know say you go join them.