The mind:

Oh oh sorry your mistake I never knew you were the same person as Ichie_Mexe I quoted. Your bubble busted. At the gathering of the hawks the snail came preaching on the technicalities of flying and maneuvering. Ones you don't know the truth the truth can's set you free.

What is the truth about God's Word. Beginner class start reading John 4: read from Vs 1 and dwell more on 23-24. Then you will tell God, reveal yourself to me in prayer.

oluwaseunla: I may not know so much about the scriptures, but my understanding is that the overall goal of tithe is to make God's work a little easier for His servants. I believe even without the commandment, one tenth of your income is not too much to give, to achieve this goal. If you feel your pastor is fraudulent, simply look for another means to achieve this goal. If you don't agree with this, pls do what you are convinced God wants, just be sure it is God talking to you. STOP ALL THIS BICKERING ALREADY. IT'S BECOMING...

rudedough: @Gombs and @The mind You guys don't want to discuss with someone who has read the bible. So who do you want to engage in a "Theological Discuss On Tithing"?

Christians who haven't read their bible thoroughly? So that you can deceive them some more and rob them blind of their hard earned money.

The desperation is funny really.

Tonye-t:
My first submissions:

1. Tithe began as an act of appreciation and still is.

2. Tithing is not part of the Mosaic LAWS...it never was mentioned as one.

3. Jesus plainly supported it when He maintained the act should not be ignored.

Gombs:

*falls off Bicycle laughing

Gombs:

mate, I'm sure your above post is densed with a heavy stench of defeat, let's change discuss

Would you care to teach me about atheism?

How big bang brought about the world?
Or how humans evolved from monkeys (stupid) to man (intelligent)

frosbel:

so with all the tithes you are paying , na bicycle you de ride

Come let me give you a lift in my limo !

frosbel: Any doctrine that uses fear to coerce its members into obedience is of DEMONS.

God requires obedience out of LOVE.

Telling people that they are under a curse for not giving you money when Jesus died on the cross to abolish the curse is the height of EVIL and BADNESS.

Taking money from those for whom that old testament tithe was meant is WICKEDNESS.

rudedough:
Stick to the debate on tithing. I am not here to win an argument or collect a trophy.

I want to learn about the bible from you Pastors, maybe i can be converted to Christendom.

So please clear my curiosity on the teaching of "tithing" Pastor. There's no need to get desperate here, there's no winner or looser. Just people learning about the scripture of God. And i hope many Christians too on this thread is interested to know what God taught about tithing.

Goshen360:

On top of that, they make it look as if God cannot bless a man who is diligent, prays and spend wise without him paying tithe. We are no more under a conditional covenant, everything we get under this new agreement is all because of what Christ did and God faithfulness.

rudedough: Now where is Pastor Miwerds and Pastor Candour? The supposed "Theological Discussants On Tithing."

Just like every other tithe collecting pastors, I guess they've absconded from the thread because the truth has come to light.

rudedough: Now where is Pastor Miwerds and Pastor Candour? The supposed "Theological Discussants On Tithing."

Just like every other tithe collecting pastors, I guess they've absconded from the thread because the truth has come to light.

rudedough: Now where is Pastor Miwerds and Pastor Candour? The supposed "Theological Discussants On Tithing."

Just like every other tithe collecting pastors, I guess they've absconded from the thread because the truth has come to light.

Gombs:

Good... Cos you can't win



Read
John 3:16
John1: 1-23
2Corinth 5:17
Romans 10: 9-10

In that order. If you cannot be convinced by them, christendom would be but a mirage



You never came to learn, if you did, your first post on ths thread would have been neutral.

Now, if you will excuse me, I've gotta be a part of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome's bday celebration.

Be a good lad now,

Cheers

At the highlighted. What a shame for a Pastor to present random quotations from the bible which does not correlate with the topic about tithing.

You should go back to bible school bro. This is a debate for academias who have taken the pain to study every piece of the bible. And if you may, you can invite Pastor Chris Oyakhilome to this thread, lets see if he can show us where the bible said "PAY YOUR TITHE" instead of "EAT YOUR TITHE".

What better way for Pastor Chris Oyakhilome to celebrate his birthday than sitting with sinners and teaching them the bible?

Image123:

i never hear from my ally oh. i think the 12hour ultimatum is short. Please make it 24hours. i'll do the best to respond early but i sincerely cannot guarantee the 12hour limit everytime. i think i'm ready,lol.

Mark Miwerds: RudeDough, I am against tithing, nor for it.

The Bible does not teach it.

I have been reading the thread for the last few hours. Even clicking like on some posts.

However, I have decided to reserve any more of my comments concerning the tithe for the actual Discussion as advised by my ally Candour.

Ohh i see. My apologies. So where are the tithe collecting pastors on this thread? Are they Gombs and The_Mind?

Those are cheap pastors now. Haba!! Pastors who haven't studied more than 10 chapters of their bible.

rudedough:

Ohh i see. My apologies. So where are the tithe collecting pastors on this thread? Are they Gombs and The_Mind?

Those are cheap pastors now. Haba!! Pastor who haven't studied more than 10 chapters of their bible.

Gombs:

Just like GEJ taking FFK for campaign coordinator in the SW

Xriss:


Read sorry STUDY Deut 14:22-29 and Deut 12:11-27 then post again if tithing is not part of Mosaic law, you may read the whole chapters or book of Deuteronomy. I believe "Deuteronomy" means something like second statement or repetition of the law.

TITHING IS DEFINITELY SCRIPTURAL BUT if u study the book of Deuteronomy then you will find that pastors today twist the "how" tithe should be paid and ask you to package money give it to them and not ask how it is used.....THIS IS FRAUD.

Tithing is meant to be given as food and drink not money....and this is to be eaten by all on the day of offering and the remaining kept in the church for the poor (ie the widows, fatherless, homeless and priests as long as they have no other businesses) that is why Malachi 3 says bring tithes so there will be food not money in God's house.

Also recall that the bible says he who gives to gives to the prophet gets a prophets reward......and he who gives to the poor lends to God himself (Prov 19:17).....thus the way to give your tithe to God is to give it to the poor not to your pastor.....

Jesus confirmed the above in Matt 25:40 and 45, when he said what you do to the "LEAST" of people is what you do to him, pls read this scripture from verse 31 to get a clearer picture. This is in line of law of tithing in Deuteronomy and why Jesus supported it.

Further to the aforementioned, study Acts 4:32-37, you will see that the church brought all they had to the apostles and the apostles shared it to those in need (the poor). This is also in line of the law of tithing in Deuteronomy.

THE BIG QUESTION NOW IS WHY DO PASTORS DO WHATEVER THEY LIKE WITH TITHES AND TELL YOU NOT TO ASK QUESTIONS?
If tithe is Gods money then the Bible should determine how it is used but IF PASTORS DETERMINE HOW IT IS USED THEN YOU HAVE JUST GIVEN TO THE PASTOR AND NOT GOD.

It is pertinent to state that any form of giving is good but if you really want to give to God then STUDY his word and learn how to give to him (by giving to the poor) if you wanna give to your pastor there is no evil or wrong in that, in fact it is good to give to your pastor. But any pastor that collects tithe in the name of God and uses it the way he like is a thief and a fraud.

Mark Miwerds: There are many who are for and many against. Most have not come in the thread.

As you can see, some have. It is the hope of Candour and myself that all who read the Discussion will learn the background of the Biblical tithes; i.e who was required to tithe and who was not, what the tithes consisted of, how often the tithes were given, etc..

Image123:

hahahahahahaahhaha. Kunle might have being drinking.

rudedough:

Oh i see and i guess the debate hasn't started yet. How do i join the discuss or is it an open discuss? I'll love to partake in the discuss but i don't know how. When is the discuss starting?

Mark Miwerds: Both Candour and myself have our ducks in a row. Apparently our opponents, Image123 & Rhymeyjohn, have not as of yet.

As soon as our opponents have their points ready, the Discussion will begin, I think.