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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Iykeponti(m): 7:36pm On Dec 23, 2013
Cheeii!!! blackman don come again with deir immoponity of slave reasoning... (o.o) wetin consain blackman with d day Jesus woz born? Wot angel Kumuyi suppo do is to make sure our wicked leaders r doing d right thing..... Stuff lyke steady light ,security stuff.. Clean water, better transportation stuff... Zero corruption in our con3 nd blah blah.....Dont tell me d Chinese,Americans & d fvckin Russians went 2the moon by dis ya religion sh!tt stuff.... (o o) Ya mudaphvccker didnt know wot ghost like d Shell iz still doing in our beloved con3 uptill now.. GUYS, MAKE UNA TRY USE UNA BRAIN SOMETIMES.. The chinese dat doesn't read dat bible iz 50% far better dan d rest of d wold.... THINK Niqqas..... RELIGION IS NAT D SOLUTION TO OUR PROB..

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by PAGAN9JA(m): 7:41pm On Dec 23, 2013
leggo:
Mr man face your pagan ways and stop ranting everywhere.. if you like worship cutlasses iont care .i worship a jew , its not your business..


grin
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Acidosis(m): 7:49pm On Dec 23, 2013
Well! Acidosis' views are always different cool

Even if I have no reason to agree with Pastor W.F Kumuyi, the rate at which people criticise this message of idolatry on this thread is enough reason for me to agree with him...


You know the views of multitudes most times lead to HELL cool Yes, Hell is meant for the crowd! cool

I remembered how the Multitude criticised Jesus Christ.


Btw, the idea of Christmas is A PURE IDOLATRY!

Whoever introduced this event must be seriously burning in HELL now grin

What the hell is Santa Claus?

I thought you guys are celebrating Jesus, so what the hell is Father Christmas? LOL


Hell go really full sha grin

Some will burn in that hell as a result of ignorance; others arrogance as the case of most people will choose to delude themselves with fetish worships..



Acidosis is saying again; Father Christmas idiot is a modern day idolatry!


Whoever is not comfortable with it, should either agree by force, by truth or you just keep deceiving yourself by going to church/mass. Even your innermost conscience knows you are heading to hell while you keep going to dance kukere in club church grin grin

See yaselves in hell.... cool


Oh I forgot, y'all shouldn't forget to drink to stupor on Christmas day grin grin



Don't quote me ooo

I don't tolerate pointless arguments with church going candidates of a sulphur burning hell grin




Just live with my views *winks*
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Nobody: 7:49pm On Dec 23, 2013
Kamsy10:

Doesn't this sound contradictory?. If Christ is to be celebrated everyday. Is December 25 not inclusive?
I even noticed Kumuyi is on facebook. omg has anyone told him that the founder of facebook is not even a Christian.
I also thought TV is not in the bible but it looks like he was on TV too. Facebook, TV's etc were are not in the bible o and him and his members are using them. So he not only allows his members use them,but he too? cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy


Well I guess he's just seeking attention Because since after he was caught on camera smiling from cheek to cheek at his son's wedding when the wife was dressed in everything he preaches against(more like a wedding made in hell fire), I concluded he probably agrees that nothing is wrong with some of those things he condemns. It's always the members that will carry everything he says on their head.
I wont be surprised if him and his children are caught on camera again rocking Christmas celebration(after all his sermon suggests that Christmas should be celebrated everyday not only December 25th)

I also hope he doesn't hold church services on Sundays until he shows where sunday was mentioned in the bible or and when sunday worship became scriptural cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
He even travels by flight while Jesus travelled with donkey.smh.
You are absolutely right bro! Common sense is not common they say, it is absolutely clear from his (Kumuyi's) write-up.

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by musiwa112: 7:49pm On Dec 23, 2013
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Akpan10(m): 7:49pm On Dec 23, 2013
The truth would continue to be bitter to hear.THERE IS NOTIN LIKE CHRISTMAS IN THE BIBLE.what is the meaning of christain?it simply means fellower or christ's like.so u see dat u celebrating it is devilish.no portion in d bible have ever talk about jesus birthday, but all of this are figment of immagination
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Nobody: 7:50pm On Dec 23, 2013
Kamsy10:

Doesn't this sound contradictory?. If Christ is to be celebrated everyday. Is December 25 not inclusive?
I even noticed Kumuyi is on facebook. omg has anyone told him that the founder of facebook is not even a Christian.
I also thought TV is not in the bible but it looks like he was on TV too. Facebook, TV's etc were are not in the bible o and him and his members are using them. So he not only allows his members use them,but he too? cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy


Well I guess he's just seeking attention Because since after he was caught on camera smiling from cheek to cheek at his son's wedding when the wife was dressed in everything he preaches against(more like a wedding made in hell fire), I concluded he probably agrees that nothing is wrong with some of those things he condemns. It's always the members that will carry everything he says on their head.
I wont be surprised if him and his children are caught on camera again rocking Christmas celebration(after all his sermon suggests that Christmas should be celebrated everyday not only December 25th)

I also hope he doesn't hold church services on Sundays until he shows where sunday was mentioned in the bible or and when sunday worship became scriptural cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
He even travels by flight while Jesus travelled with donkey.smh.
You are absolutely right bro! Common sense is not common they say, it is absolutely clear from his (Kumuyi's) write-up. This is one of the reasons I dislike some churches

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by PAGAN9JA(m): 7:52pm On Dec 23, 2013
Acidosis: Well! Acidosis' views are always different cool

Even if I have no reason to agree with Pastor W.F Kumuyi, the rate at which people criticise this message of idolatry on this thread is enough reason for me to agree with him...


You know the views of multitudes most times lead to HELL cool Yes, Hell is meant for the crowd! cool

I remembered how the Multitude criticised Jesus Christ.


Btw, the idea of Christmas is A PURE IDOLATRY!

Whoever introduced this event must be seriously burning in HELL now grin

What the hell is Santa Claus?

I thought you guys are celebrating Jesus, so what the hell is Father Christmas? LOL


Hell go really full sha grin

Some will burn in that hell as a result of ignorance; others arrogance as the case of most people will choose to delude themselves with fetish worships..



Acidosis is saying again; Father [s]Christmas[/i] idiot is a modern day idolatry!


Whoever is not comfortable with it, should either agree by force, by truth or you just keep deceiving yourself by going to church/mass. Even your innermost conscience knows you are heading to hell while you keep going to dance kukere in club church grin grin

See yaselves in hell.... cool




Don't quote me ooo




Just live with my views *winks*


Before you accuse others of burning in hell, see your own face in the mirror.

You are not some Mahatma Gandhis son to not go to hell.


Remember. When you point fingers. 3 fingers point back at you.

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by jmoore(m): 7:54pm On Dec 23, 2013
voltron:

How you willy Christians twist scripture to support your doubtful intentions.. we are not talking about lands here.. is Tree Worship right in the Eyes of GOD.. simple question..
Open your eyes! Comprehend! Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ.

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by donodion(m): 7:55pm On Dec 23, 2013
This is what "they" use doctrines for..to control the minds of the followers and would-be followers...all sorts of sermonizing and spiritualizing issues in Naija yet the country keeps retrogressing...mtchewwww...anyway na for deeper life members, e no concern me fah. angry
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Acidosis(m): 7:58pm On Dec 23, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:



Before you accuse others of burning in hell, see your own face in the mirror.

You are not some Mahatma Gandhis son to not go to hell.


Remember. When you point fingers. 3 fingers point back at you.

Mr Pagan,


Are you hell bound too?

oh its obvious, All Pagans will burn off in hell...


The truth is bitter cool


Pardon me, I am not a sugar coated liar. cool

I don't know how to present it better...
But the truth must be told anyway smiley
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by SELFWORTH: 7:58pm On Dec 23, 2013
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and way of life. In my church and my family we will celebrate the birth of CHRIST ON CHRISTMAS DAY 25TH OF DECEMBER.

We will celebrate God how and when we choose. We follow NO man, doctrine or pastor or opinions. No one has ever seen God so no one knows for sure what the right thing is about Christmas.

Everyone should concentrate on thier salvation. Don't celebrate Christmas if you don't believe in it. Don't force your own doctrines on others.
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Nobody: 7:58pm On Dec 23, 2013
GeneralShepherd: Sometimes I wonder how some people reason!

You claim people should not celebrate xmas because it has links to roman gods, do you know that everyday of the week is dedicated and name after a roman god?

Do you the mean of SUNday?

The Seven Day Week
The Naming of the Days
Sunday -- Sun's day
Monday -- Moon's day
Tuesday -- Tiu's day
Wednesday -- Woden's day
Thursday -- Thor's day
Friday -- Freya's day
Saturday -- Saturn's day

Kumuyi needs to seek proper knowledge before deceiving his members. A blind man leading a blind congregation.

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Juvante(m): 7:59pm On Dec 23, 2013
Hate the man or leave it. How many of you watched the Akwa Ibom Carol Night last year? What did the compere of the night say about his presence there? Find out first before commenting blindly. Secondly , you say he can't control his children, tell me how well did God Almighty control the tribes of Israel in the Bible. Does that mean God is a bad father? Maybe you have not heard about free will to choose. Thirdly, tell me how many church leaders have the courage to gather their congregation world wide for over 39 years without missing a year, on Xmas day to listen to Scriptural teachings!
I was there yesterday and I can tell you that he is being quoted out of context ! A few phrases and you think you got the whole picture! As for him preaching against the television , I have never heard him say that he will never preach on the television! Ask the older ones and they will confirm that in the 80s, he was preaching on television!
The pastor of the largest Pentecostal church in Ukraine during their 17th anniversary,Pastor Sunday of Embassy of God, Kiev, said emphatically that he got converted through his tv preachings, and called him his spiritual father. It is all there on YouTube . So quit your moanings and listen to one of the best mathematicians that ever emerged from Africa, a First Class mind who abandoned his lecturing job for the gospel!

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by PAGAN9JA(m): 8:01pm On Dec 23, 2013
Acidosis:

Mr Pagan,


Are you hell bound too?

oh its obvious, All Pagans will burn off in hell...


The truth is bitter cool


Pardon me, I am not a sugar coated liar. cool

I don't know how to present it better...
But the truth must be told anyway smiley


I dont believe in your imaginery fairytale hell. I will be reincarnated.

If there is a hell, I will probably be sharing a boat with you.


your a big liar for spreading these imaginery tinz to scare and blackmail people.
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Nobody: 8:01pm On Dec 23, 2013
jmoore:
Open your eyes! Comprehend! Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ.

We all know that this is what it is essentially.. however Christmas is primarily of Pagan Origins, would it not have been better if it was JesusChrist Day rather than Christmas.. why kolobi some pagan ritualistic celebration in honor of Jesus Christ
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Polio: 8:02pm On Dec 23, 2013
Apart from what Kumuyi is talking about...Jesus was not born on 25th December, widely regarded as Xmas day, so what the fu..ck is being celebrated?!
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Acidosis(m): 8:02pm On Dec 23, 2013
donodion: This is what "they" use doctrines for..to control the minds of the followers and would-be followers...all sorts of sermonizing and spiritualizing issues in Naija yet the country keeps retrogressing...mtchewwww...anyway na for deeper life members, e no concern me fah. angry

Unfortunately sir, the real Christians are more concerned about Heaven... not your useless satan dominated country...


Your useless countries alongside the rebels of Armagedon will one day burn off grin grin


Live with it, bro cheesy



oh you just have to accept it cheesy
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Polio: 8:03pm On Dec 23, 2013
jmoore:
Open your eyes! Comprehend! Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ.

And when was Jesus born?!
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Nobody: 8:04pm On Dec 23, 2013
honey001:


http://www.punchng.com/news/christmas-is-idolatrous-kumuyi/
It is not good to be religious. Religion cripples. Religious spirit is a filty spirit.
To me, what matters to me is the Gospel and preaching of it. If a song is sang that a small babe who was and is still the Saviour of the world was born, then the Gospel is proclaimed right there. And if the whole stands still in a season because of this glorious event, that's enough for me. I am not interested in old wives fables and history of this idol and that pope. I don't know them and I don't want to know them. Anyone can go on about their religious doctrine. I am not interested in that, and I am sure the God I serve is not interested in that in man-made doctrine, dos and donts. Celebrating Xmas doesn't unchristianise you or make you a bad one. Not celebrating Xmas doesn't give you access to heaven or make you a better xtian. Many religious Xians, over the years, have tried to perfect their faith thru dos and donts without really knowing the Master intimately through the Holy Spirit. So many of them have ended up giving up and miserable and in extreme case bound.
Any celebration that reminds us that Jesus came, died, rose again, and is coming back again- I will participate in that celebration. I don't care what any man or old prophet. Pls note I have a lot of respect for Kumuyi and I honour his ministry but that is where it ends.
Even the whole story of commercialising Xmas is utter nonsense. If people (including) xtians want to spend their money any time of the year, it is their choice. That is not different from washing your car and keeping it clean for a Sunday service.
So many people just want help God on things God is not attaching weight to. If I am a business man and see a trading opportunity during this season, I will take it. I remember my mum being persecuted by religious people who aren't even don't even know d scriptures because she used to open her shop on Subdays. Who says Sundays are special days. No they are not. Just another religious nonesense.
They that know their God shall be strong and they shall do exploits. Know the Master and be free from the doctrines and traditions of men.

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Juvante(m): 8:05pm On Dec 23, 2013
Unconfirmed reports states that the reason for part of his message was that an unsanctioned carol programme was organised at the Deeper Life High School,PH. So, quit complaining and commenting bout every issues under the sun!
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Nobody: 8:11pm On Dec 23, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:



the reason why its not right is because christians killed many Pagans and spoke against Pagan beliefs.

and then you use our festivals.

It reeks of hypocrisy.
Old wives fable. I wasn't there when it happened. So this means nothing to me.
You can live a and exist in that past if you want. This history is an idol for those that are bound by it.

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by SELFWORTH: 8:14pm On Dec 23, 2013
Polio: Apart from what Kumuyi is talking about...Jesus was not born on 25th December, widely regarded as Xmas day, so what the fu..ck is being celebrated?!


Please what is " Xmas"?
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by PAGAN9JA(m): 8:15pm On Dec 23, 2013
EBK2:
Old wives fable. I wasn't there when it happened. So this means nothing to me.
You can live a and exist in that past if you want. This history is an idol for those that are bound by it.

your face is an idol for your teeth bound by it.
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by fredagu: 8:16pm On Dec 23, 2013
Kumuyi dat one naah ur bus u wan may we dey dress like stupid deeeper life people
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Nobody: 8:16pm On Dec 23, 2013
EBK2:
Old wives fable. I wasn't there when it happened. So this means nothing to me.
You can live a and exist in that past if you want. This history is an idol for those that are bound by it.

for your Benefit the corrupted History of the Bible has you bound to Hell. sadly

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Acidosis(m): 8:20pm On Dec 23, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:


I dont believe in your imaginery fairytale hell. I will be reincarnated.

If there is a hell, I will probably be sharing a boat with you.


your a big liar for spreading these imaginery tinz to scare and blackmail people.

Believe it or not, if you do not turn away from your wicked ways, it will shock you by the time you find yourself naked and burning off in hell - a place without exit! Once you're in, it is finished! No forgiveness, no mercy!

Right in that place of pathetic and everlasting torment, Lucifer will remind you of all your negative posts about the true message of Jesus christ and how you turned yourself away from the truth.



A place of terrible cry and agony!


You had better turn from your ways and quit licking the ignorance of the multitudes who call themselves 'christains' going to places where they get pathetic lies and corny motivations..


Stop feeding your belly with ignorance...


Hell (Satan) is not a respecter of humans...

I warn you again, stop licking the as.ses of those who go to places where Pastors hide the truth from them, e.g the agonies in the book of Revelation...


Once you miss Heaven; hahahhahhaha oboy na H E L L oooo

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by PAGAN9JA(m): 8:21pm On Dec 23, 2013
Acidosis:

Believe it or not, if you do not turn away from your wicked ways, it will shock you by the time you find yourself naked and burning off in hell - a place without exit! Once you're in, it is finished! No forgiveness, no mercy!

Right in that place of pathetic and everlasting torment, Lucifer will remind you of all your negative posts about the true message of Jesus christ and how you turned yourself away from the truth.



A place of terrible cry and agony!


You had better turn from your ways and quit licking the ignorance of the multitudes who call themselves 'christains' going to places where they get pathetic lies and corny motivations..


Stop feeding your belly with ignorance...


Hell & Satan is not a respecter of humans...

I warn you again, stop licking the as.ses of those who go to places where Pastors hide the truth from them, e.g the agonies in the book of Revelation...


Once you miss Heaven; hahahhahhaha oboy na H E L L oooo

use this to scare some kids.

IT wont work on me.


Just because your grandpapa was scared by this blackmail, doesnt mean we will be.
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Acidosis(m): 8:25pm On Dec 23, 2013
PAGAN 9JA:


use this to scare some kids.

IT wont work on me.


Just because your grandpapa was scared by this blackmail, doesnt mean we will be.


Okay, sir...

You are the driver of your own life...

You have the key to drive yourself to wherever you want

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Nobody: 8:31pm On Dec 23, 2013
Juvante: Hate the man or leave it. How many of you watched the Akwa Ibom Carol Night last year? What did the compere of the night say about his presence there? Find out first before commenting blindly. Secondly , you say he can't control his children, tell me how well did God Almighty control the tribes of Israel in the Bible. Does that mean God is a bad father? Maybe you have not heard about free will to choose. Thirdly, tell me how many church leaders have the courage to gather their congregation world wide for over 39 years without missing a year, on Xmas day to listen to Scriptural teachings!
I was there yesterday and I can tell you that he is being quoted out of context ! A few phrases and you think you got the whole picture! As for him preaching against the television , I have never heard him say that he will never preach on the television! Ask the older ones and they will confirm that in the 80s, he was preaching on television!
The pastor of the largest Pentecostal church in Ukraine during their 17th anniversary,Pastor Sunday of Embassy of God, Kiev, said emphatically that he got converted through his tv preachings, and called him his spiritual father. It is all there on YouTube . So quit your moanings and listen to one of the best mathematicians that ever emerged from Africa, a First Class mind who abandoned his lecturing job for the gospel!


ORIGINALLY YOU DARE NOT FIND TV IN THE HOUSE OF ANY DEEPER LIFE MEMBER BUT KUMUYI HAS CONVERTED THE IDOL(TV) FOR THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST..HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA
SO YOU ALL ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO THE IDOLATORY CLUB
HE EVEN WORSHIPS ON SUNDAYS(NAMED AFTER SUN GOD) HAHAHAHAHHA

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by OgologoDimkpa: 8:38pm On Dec 23, 2013
Rastamann: What about marrying a second wife within few months of the death of a first wife.
sharrap! Death have done them part so he's no longer accountable to her.
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by donodion(m): 8:43pm On Dec 23, 2013
Acidosis:

Unfortunately sir, the real Christians are more concerned about Heaven... not your useless satan dominated country...


Your useless countries alongside the rebels of Armagedon will one day burn off grin grin


Live with it, bro cheesy




oh you just have to accept it cheesy
And bro...who are the "real Christians"? by their bible quotes or oratory eloquence?? abegi jor...all na showbiz.Church in Naija na business venture and mass member accumulation. grin grin grin grin

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