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Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by honey001(m): 9:52am On Dec 22, 2013
The General Overseer of the Deeper Christian Life Ministry, Pastor W.F Kumuyi, has again warned members of the church against celebrating Christmas, saying the annual celebration of Christmas is idolatrous and unscriptural.

Kumuyi warned that partaking in the celebration made Christians to go back from the commandment of Jesus Christ.

The cleric said this on Saturday at the annual national December convention of the church, which held at the church’s camp ground in Ogun State.

He said, “We don’t celebrate Christmas. It actually came from idolatrous background. That is why you don’t hear us sing what they call Christmas carol. Never! We always say it is the December retreat. We are only gathering together because it is the holiday period and love the Lord more, and rededicate ourselves more.

“When you find anybody coming in, or any leader, trying to introduce the idolatry of mystery Babylon, that they call Christmas and you want to bring all the Christmas carol saying that is the day that Jesus was born, and you don’t find that in the Acts of the Apostles or in the early church, then you don’t find that in the church either. If you don’t know that before, now you know.”

He warned that any of the church’s leaders that tried to introduce the “idolatry of Christmas” into any section of the church would be sanctioned, while also encouraging other believers in Christ to jettison the celebration as part of their sacrifice to perfection.

Kumuyi said the duty of the church was to make people more like Jesus Christ and not join in worldly celebrations.

“We are not trying to make the church turn like the world. We want it to be like Jesus Christ, and more like the Apostles. If you don’t have that mind with us, then you have permission to go to other places,” he added.

But the Director of Social Communications, Catholic Archdiocese of Lagos, Monsignor Gabriel Osu, in his reaction to Kumuyi’s proclamation, said, “I don’t know what he means by saying the practice of celebrating Christmas is wrong.

“Is he saying that Christ wasn’t born? That he didn’t come to die for us? Does he not celebrate his own birthday? Do Kumuyi’s pastors not celebrate him? It is not everything I react to; some people just seek attention. If Kumuyi is a Christian, then he must believe in Christ.

“The celebration of Christmas didn’t just start today; it is too public an event for anyone to say that they don’t know what it is about.

“If Kumuyi is condemning the commercialisation of Christmas, I can understand that. Christ came to redeem us from our lost state; this was actualised through his coming, his birth; that is why we celebrate Christmas. It is the fulfilment of God’s promise.”

“I saw him on the television a few days ago. He was in Akwa Ibom State and was the chief preacher during their Christmas celebration event. Kumuyi is just saying what he feels; he is not making any doctrinal statement.”

The spokesperson for the Christian Association of Nigeria, Oshodi chapter, Lagos State, Pastor Barnabas Otoibhi, said that Christmas was worth celebrating.

Otoibhi told one our correspondents in a telephone interview that the origin of Christmas was not as important as its essence.

He said, “The origin of Christmas, as we know it, could be traced to Roman Emperor, Constantine. Christmas was a day for celebrating the Sun God. However, because Constantine was a Christian, the day was changed to commemorate the birth of Jesus Christ.

“The tradition has continued to date and since the aim of Christmas is to celebrate Jesus since there is nothing bad in honouring Jesus. Also, the worship of the Sun God was done in Rome and not everywhere in the world, so it is not part of our history.

“We mark Christmas with the singing of songs as a day, which has now been consecrated.”


http://www.punchng.com/news/christmas-is-idolatrous-kumuyi/

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Danhumprey: 9:59am On Dec 22, 2013
It's a pagan tradition,no doubt. For one,we don't know exactly when Jesus was born. We only give speculation about the day we think he was born,which may not be true. It shouldn't be about celebrating December 25th,rather it should be about celebrating Jesus.

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by xynerise(m): 10:00am On Dec 22, 2013
Jesus wasnt born in March. He was born in October


Besides, we are celebrating Jesus not Idol

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by slimthugchimee(m): 10:00am On Dec 22, 2013
I have 5 things to say to this post
1:dont make me waist 5 mins of my life reading this
2:this is why i support abortion
3:how does that consign us
4:am sure u be hausa
5:how did u know

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by opyzy(f): 10:17am On Dec 22, 2013
Iro gbu! are u a jehovah witness? By d way how is it idolatry? do xtians offer chickens or any other meat to idols?smh christmas is jus to celebrate the birth of jesus

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by bebe2(f): 11:29am On Dec 22, 2013
I dnt know about it being idolatry but I dnt believe D date of jesus's birth is right. December 25th is a winter festival as its the darkest day of the year.

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by tpacalipse(m): 12:13pm On Dec 22, 2013
Me I know who I celebrate, and He is God. Your opinion ain't matter to me on this. So, shove the hell it!

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by GeneralShepherd(m): 1:54pm On Dec 22, 2013
Sometimes I wonder how some people reason!

You claim people should not celebrate xmas because it has links to roman gods, do you know that everyday of the week is dedicated and name after a roman god?

Do you know the meaning of SUNday?

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by glimpse(f): 3:14pm On Dec 22, 2013
GeneralShepherd: Sometimes I wonder how some people reason!

You claim people should not celebrate xmas because it has links to roman gods, do you know that everyday of the week is dedicated and name after a roman god?

Do you the mean of SUNday?

Even thursday means THORsday

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Princewell2012(m): 3:16pm On Dec 22, 2013
Actualy the bible did not give us the specific date when Jesus was born. We are only guesing about about the date, nobody is 100 percent sure of, when Jesus was born, therefore i may choose a particular date, and name it chrismas , and i begin to celebrate on that day, each year, it is not an offence nor do i comited any sin .nowwhat matter most is the motive behind it.

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by honey001(m): 12:03pm On Dec 23, 2013
Just did some research on it now, I think Christ was not actually born on the 25th, dat day is linked to pagan idol worship....

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Demainman1: 12:16pm On Dec 23, 2013
KUMUYI is a nobody in the scheme of things!. His children do not even obey his church declared doctrines talkless of me. Remember the white wedding and daughter inlaw makeup things?

Na im wahala be dat. I'm sure if you visit his children on the 25th, they sef will be celebrating Christmas!

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Demainman1: 12:17pm On Dec 23, 2013
glimpse:

Even thursday means THORsday

And monday is MOONday i belief cheesy

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Nobody: 12:27pm On Dec 23, 2013
sureteeboy: The pastor in a message
broadcasted live said the birth
of Christ should not only be
celebrated just once in year but
everyday.

Doesn't this sound contradictory?. If Christ is to be celebrated everyday. Is December 25 not inclusive?
I even noticed Kumuyi is on facebook. omg has anyone told him that the founder of facebook is not even a Christian.
I also thought TV is not in the bible but it looks like he was on TV too. Facebook, TV's etc are not in the bible o but him and his members are using them. So he not only allows his members use them,but he too? cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy


Well I guess he's just seeking attention Because since after he was caught on camera smiling from cheek to cheek at his son's wedding when the wife was dressed in everything he preaches against(more like a wedding made in hell fire), I concluded he probably agrees that nothing is wrong with some of those things he condemns. It's always the members that will carry everything he says on their head.
I wont be surprised if him and his children are caught on camera again rocking Christmas celebration(afterall his sermon suggests that Christmas should be celebrated everyday not only December 25th)

I also hope he doesn't hold church services on Sundays until he shows where sunday was mentioned in the bible and since when sunday worship became scriptural cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
He even travels by flight while Jesus travelled with donkey.smh.

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by PAGAN9JA(m): 1:48pm On Dec 23, 2013
Paganism is the true essence of humanity.

Take it or leave it.

You cant deny that you have lost it.

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Coldfeet(f): 1:48pm On Dec 23, 2013
Here we go again! Your son did wedding! Went for honeymoon! That's not celebration? Once upon a time deeper lifers aint allowed to have tv or radio in their houses why? Because its worldly! But what do we have today? Pastor Kumiyi does live tv and radio broadcasting!. Deeper lifers aint allowed to braid their hair or wear weavon why? Because its from the marine world! Today their women use wool and shoe maker thread as hair extensions!! Marine world no sabi produce that one? Smh! I respect this Pastor a lot o! But recent events is giving me reasons to categories him among the likes of Okotie. God is watching all of us.

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Krasid(m): 1:49pm On Dec 23, 2013
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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by moscobabs(m): 1:51pm On Dec 23, 2013
so there is no need to celebrate the birth of Jesus ?

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by PAGAN9JA(m): 1:51pm On Dec 23, 2013
Why do catholics accuse us Traditionalists of Idolatory when they use idols themselves in church?

what do you gain from worship an israeli god instead of worshipping your Tribal God.

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Lilimax(f): 1:51pm On Dec 23, 2013
I've heard it several times sad?
BUT,
Whether Our Lord Jesus Christ was born on Christmas
day or not is immaterial to me undecided?.

The most important thing is that a Saviour was born to salvage mankind from
God's wrath smiley.

If Christ was not born, my life would have been miserable.

Thank you Lord for giving us Jesus Christ.

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by djeezy(m): 1:51pm On Dec 23, 2013
They are indirectly celebrating christmas hiding under the guise that its public holiday, hence converge coz they love the Lord more. If it's not scriptural, atleast he should show us the courtesy of telling us the bible verse that says its idolatrous.

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by damibravo(m): 1:52pm On Dec 23, 2013
Sadist!

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Nobody: 1:52pm On Dec 23, 2013
Some historical views a lot of us hold here are uninformed. We give undue credits to pagan religion by saying pagan worshipers started this or that. Come to think of it; an event, either of religious belief or not, must have its origin started from somewhere. Paganism in the real sense of the word isn`t a religion, paganism to those of past generations was meant to be a way of life they lived. The vain among them personalised a custom which was a way of living life to them as a religion. Let Joy, Love, Peace, Compasion, Kindness and other fruits of the spirit live in our hearts, pagan religion will vanish because people will stop patronizing herbalist and joining witch-craft e.t.c Since all needs and good desires are easily met.

A man who is comfortable and contented with what he has, will never seek spiritual means to satisfy his belly or vain desires by switching to pagan religion.

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Victoriousvic(m): 1:52pm On Dec 23, 2013
Abeg, what are they practicing? Religion or bondage? undecided

Chai! What's my own sef?
Most of his members don't even have the money to celebrate it, so it makes no difference.

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by PastorOluT(m): 1:54pm On Dec 23, 2013
The origin of Christmas is not as important as its essence!

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Elnino4ladies: 1:54pm On Dec 23, 2013
Jesus christ neva instructed his disciples 2 celebrate chrismas..it is of pegan oringin..d bible does nt giv d date of christ birth...kumuyi is tryin rilly hard 2 emulate jehovah's witnesses..

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by PAGAN9JA(m): 1:55pm On Dec 23, 2013
Demain_man:

And monday is MOONday i belief cheesy

SUN day

MOON day

TIV sday

WODEN sday

THOR sday

FREYJA sday

SATURN sday


Âll names of Pagan Gods.

still you guyz abuse and curse us.

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by MRL1MPoPoTM: 1:55pm On Dec 23, 2013
wats wrong wit the present crop of nigerian ministers sef. everyone wna sound controversial. First was Okotie's lewd opprobrium on catholis,now it's kumuyi again. I'm totally dismayed to ce kumuyi i hold in high esteem condescend to reason lik a cretinous brain-dead drake. Damn angry

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by unmask: 1:56pm On Dec 23, 2013
Demain_man: KUMUYI is a nobody in the scheme of things!. His children do not even obey his church declared doctrines talkless of me. Remember the white wedding and daughter inlaw makeup things?

Na im wahala be dat. I'm sure if you visit his children on the 25th, they sef will be celebrating Christmas!
kumuyi is not asking to be a somebody in the scheme of things....... He is simply stating what his research told him..... Just as God's children have disobeyed him severally, would you say he too is a bad father?

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Snoggy(m): 1:56pm On Dec 23, 2013
Mtchew
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by djeezy(m): 1:57pm On Dec 23, 2013
[quote author=Pastor Olu T][/quote] Don't be too hasty fake pastor.hehehe, lol
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by rafhell(m): 1:57pm On Dec 23, 2013
This is a reoccurring topic. I remembered that we trashed exactly this time left year.

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