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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Hanihairy(m): 1:57pm On Dec 23, 2013
We all knw dat dere is nt 1 place in d bible were jesus date of birth was specifically mention n dat was by no means an omision cos if jesus wantd us 2 celebrate his byday d date wuld av bin clearly recorded n his early apostle wud av bin d first 2 celeb. him...

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by PAGAN9JA(m): 1:57pm On Dec 23, 2013
GeneralShepherd: Sometimes I wonder how some people reason!

You claim people should not celebrate xmas because it has links to roman gods, do you know that everyday of the week is dedicated and name after a roman god?

Do you the mean of SUNday?

Exactly! Thats the point!

christianity is a fake religion plagarized from Pagan Religions.


so return to the Religion of your ancestors now!

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Nobody: 1:58pm On Dec 23, 2013
Stup1d and weed pastor, seeking for attention, hahahahahaha people don't give a dammit about his church again, na for that church you go see women over 50 years without husband, because of them stup1d lifestyle, the animals believe say na them holier pass.

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Oletty: 1:58pm On Dec 23, 2013
Pastor Kumiyi is right. Christmas is idolatrous, but so are most other aspects of Christianity. The purported virgin birth, divinity of Jesus Christ, his crucifixion, resurrection. These are not unique to Christianity but abound in other ancient religions around the present day Middle East. Open your eyes Africans, there is nothing historical about Christianity--it, like all other religions, is allegorical. Jesus Christ may or may not have existed but outside the Bible he is not mentioned anywhere else except in the writing of the Roman historian Flavius Josephus who refers to a Christ.

December 22 is Winter Solstice when the sun fades into the azimuth in the Northern hemisphere and 'dies for three days'. It only begins to rise on December 25th. Coincidence that December 25 was fixed as the birth date of Jesus? Of course not. Jesus Christ, like most ancient deities, is likely a personification of the sun. Twelve months in a year, twelve apostles. Sun dies for three days and rises and so does Jesus Christ. There's a lot more. Only the intelligent and wise can understand the symbolism in Christianity. It's all myth and allegory. It is not historical. Wake up Africa. The Europeans who brought the religion to you no longer believe in it literally.

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Lilimax(f): 2:03pm On Dec 23, 2013
Kingscee: Stupid and weed pastor, seeking for attention, hahahahahaha people don't give a dammit about his church again, na for that church you go see women over 50 years without husband, because of them stupid lifestyle, the animals believe say na them holier pass.
Stop abusing a man of God angry

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by IamDebola: 2:03pm On Dec 23, 2013
This post is funny.. The comment on the thread is more funnier!
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Well, I'm the funniest!
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by unmask: 2:03pm On Dec 23, 2013
Victoriousvic: Abeg, what are they practicing? Religion or bondage? undecided

Chai! What's my own sef?
Most of his members don't even have the money to celebrate it, so it makes no difference.
you might be surprised to know how rich deeperlife members are..... You should have maybe said they don't show off..... But saying they are not rich..... Then you are sorely mistaken

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Jayses(m): 2:04pm On Dec 23, 2013
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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by jimino(m): 2:06pm On Dec 23, 2013
Christians dat celebrate christmas celebrate it in d Name of Jesus Christ nt in d name of any gods mr pastor
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by candor4(f): 2:07pm On Dec 23, 2013
Demain_man: KUMUYI is a nobody in the scheme of things!. His children do not even obey his church declared doctrines




talkless of me. Remember the white wedding and daughter inlaw makeup things?

Na im wahala be dat. I'm sure if you visit his children on the 25th, they sef will be celebrating Christmas!

Focus on d topic nt on his kids....................................

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Malakh: 2:08pm On Dec 23, 2013
all you pagan Christians can go ahead and celebrat the birth of the sun,or winter solstice, Christ never observed mass hence christmass

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by jmoore(m): 2:08pm On Dec 23, 2013
Christmas means celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ.
Why is that too hard to comprehend?
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by nawtikid(m): 2:09pm On Dec 23, 2013
slimthugchimee: I have 5 things to say to this post
1:dont make me waist 5 mins of my life reading this
2:this is why i support abortion
3:how does that consign us
4:am sure u be hausa
5:how did u know
wat a dissapointment...smh
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by PAGAN9JA(m): 2:10pm On Dec 23, 2013
jimino: Christians dat celebrate christmas celebrate it in d Name of Jesus Christ nt in d name of any gods mr pastor

why did you capitalize jesus and not GODS.

so now jesus is bigger than the GODS?


you fellows need to be saved from man-worship.

TUFIAKWA!
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Lilimax(f): 2:12pm On Dec 23, 2013
jmoore: Christmas means celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ.
Why is that too hard to comprehend?
I wonder o sad?
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by UceeGod: 2:13pm On Dec 23, 2013
Kumuyi's message is simple, true xtians shouldn't join in Xmas celebration cos it's of pagan origin, if u must celebrate d birth of Jesus, do it anytime. A lot of people don't read b4 making comment.

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by vislabraye(m): 2:14pm On Dec 23, 2013
Christmas is also known as Christ Mass. It originated from pagan religion.
But if U use the celebration for something +ve, you'll be better for it.
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by CODEEATER(m): 2:18pm On Dec 23, 2013
The General Overseer of the Deeper Christian Life Ministry, Pastor W.F Kumuyi, has again warned members of the church against celebrating Christmas, saying the annual celebration of Christmas is idolatrous and unscriptural.

Kumuyi warned that partaking in the celebration made Christians to go back from the commandment of Jesus Christ.

The cleric said this on Saturday at the annual national December convention of the church, which held at the church’s camp ground in Ogun State.

He said, “We don’t celebrate Christmas. It actually came from idolatrous background. That is why you don’t hear us sing what they call Christmas carol. Never! We always say it is the December retreat. We are only gathering together because it is the holiday period and love the Lord more, and rededicate ourselves more.

“When you find anybody coming in, or any leader, trying to introduce the idolatry of mystery Babylon, that they call Christmas and you want to bring all the Christmas carol saying that is the day that Jesus was born, and you don’t find that in the Acts of the Apostles or in the early church, then you don’t find that in the church either. If you don’t know that before, now you know.”

He warned that any of the church’s leaders that tried to introduce the “idolatry of Christmas” into any section of the church would be sanctioned, while also encouraging other believers in Christ to jettison the celebration as part of their sacrifice to perfection.

Kumuyi said the duty of the church was to make people more like Jesus Christ and not join in worldly celebrations.

“We are not trying to make the church turn like the world. We want it to be like Jesus Christ, and more like the Apostles. If you don’t have that mind with us, then you have permission to go to other places,” he added.

But the Director of Social Communications, Catholic Archdiocese of Lagos, Monsignor Gabriel Osu, in his reaction to Kumuyi’s proclamation, said, “I don’t know what he means by saying the practice of celebrating Christmas is wrong.

“Is he saying that Christ wasn’t born? That he didn’t come to die for us? Does he not celebrate his own birthday? Do Kumuyi’s pastors not celebrate him? It is not everything I react to; some people just seek attention. If Kumuyi is a Christian, then he must believe in Christ.

“The celebration of Christmas didn’t just start today; it is too public an event for anyone to say that they don’t know what it is about.

“If Kumuyi is condemning the commercialisation of Christmas, I can understand that. Christ came to redeem us from our lost state; this was actualised through his coming, his birth; that is why we celebrate Christmas. It is the fulfilment of God’s promise.”

“I saw him on the television a few days ago. He was in Akwa Ibom State and was the chief preacher during their Christmas celebration event. Kumuyi is just saying what he feels; he is not making any doctrinal statement.”

The spokesperson for the Christian Association of Nigeria, Oshodi chapter, Lagos State, Pastor Barnabas Otoibhi, said that Christmas was worth celebrating.

Otoibhi told one our correspondents in a telephone interview that the origin of Christmas was not as important as its essence.

He said, “The origin of Christmas, as we know it, could be traced to Roman Emperor, Constantine. Christmas was a day for celebrating the Sun God. However, because Constantine was a Christian, the day was changed to commemorate the birth of Jesus Christ.

“The tradition has continued to date and since the aim of Christmas is to celebrate Jesus since there is nothing bad in honouring Jesus. Also, the worship of the Sun God was done in Rome and not everywhere in the world, so it is not part of our history.

“We mark Christmas with the singing of songs as a day, which has now been consecrated.”



Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by freda506(f): 2:20pm On Dec 23, 2013
Yeah! Watching t.v and driving cars can also not be found in Acts of apostles angry angry

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Nobody: 2:20pm On Dec 23, 2013
xynerise: Jesus wasnt born in March. He was born in October


Besides, we are celebrating Jesus not Idol

Yea Right.. using Pagan Symbolism to Celebrate Jesus Christ.. you should be celebrating Santa Claus and say it honestly not masquerading behind Jesus to engage in Idolatry .. sheeez

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by OILOFGLADNESS: 2:21pm On Dec 23, 2013
honey001:


http://www.punchng.com/news/christmas-is-idolatrous-kumuyi/

I AM A GENUINE CHILD OF GOD, AND I LOVE PASTOR KUMUYI'S MESSAGES SO MUCH.
I ALSO UNDERSTAND HIS MESSAGE CONCERNIG CHRISTMAS, BUT I WANT TO DISPUTE THE FACT THAT JESUS BIRTH SHOULDNT BE CELEBRATED.

[color=#000000]NOBODY IS SAYING THAT JESUS WAS BORN ON DECEMBER 25TH, RATHER ITS JUST A DAY MARKED OUT FOR THE CHRISTIANS TO REMEMBER THE BIRTH OF OUR SAVIOUR.


I AM NOT IGNORANT OF THE FACT THAT MANY CHRISTIANS FALL INTO DIVERSE TEMPTATION IN THIS PERIOD BECAUSE OF ITS ABUSE.

CHRISTMAS CAN BE CELEBRATED IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

THE DEEPER LIFE CELEBRATES IT WITH RETREAT EVEN EASTER(CHRISTMAS AND EASTER RETREAT)
THE REDEEMED CELEBRATE IT WITH CONGRESS
THE ANGLICAN AND SOME OTHERS CELEBRATES IT WITH CRUSADES AND CAROL
THE WINNERS IS SHILO ETC.

THE ONLY DIFFERENT WITH DEEPER LIFE AND OTHERS IS THAT; DEEPERLIFE CHOOSE TO FIX THEIRS WITH 25TH INCLUSIVE

WHILE OTHERS DO THEIRS BEFORE OR AFTER TO ALLOW THEIR MEMBERS HAVE TIME FOR THEIR OWN PERSONAL OR FAMILY PROGRAMMS AND CELEBRATION.

ANYBODY THAT IS CAPABLE OF MISBEHAVING ON 25th CAN ALSO MISBEHAVE ANY DATE.

MEANWHILE THE ESSENCE OF DECLARING 25TH PUBLIC HOLIDAY IS COS OF CHRISTMAS IF NOT WORKERS WONT BE FREE TO ATTEND THE RETREAT
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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by magnusalbertus(m): 2:21pm On Dec 23, 2013
slimthugchimee: I have 5 things to say to this post
1:dont make me waist 5 mins of my life reading this
2:this is why i support abortion
3:how does that consign us
4:am sure u be hausa
5:how did u know
consign. . lol
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by ochallo: 2:24pm On Dec 23, 2013
I heard this on the radio and I was taken aback . Nigerian Christianity is really turning into something else, we act like Nigerians are the ones who are going to be in heaven alone, but there wold be a great surprise. Yes we don,t know exactly when Jesus was born but Christmas remains the greatest evangelism for christ. Recently I was with Indians who knew nothing about Christianity but they knew about Christmas and the love and joy it brings and wanted to share in it. The responsibility of Christians is to ensure that people don't forget the real meaning of Christmas.

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by OduntanGabriel(m): 2:24pm On Dec 23, 2013
What I knw abt christmas is that we are celebrating 2 festivals 2geda... Christ-Mass. The romans chose dec 25 to fall on the day they are celebrating MASS(festival of fire) and that is why u see knockouts and lotta fireworks this period. It is the celebration of christ and mass (christmas). No matter what,my instinct and common sense shows me its not idolatry. Na christ me dey celebrate, no be kumuyi
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by phiszo(m): 2:26pm On Dec 23, 2013
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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by ITbomb(m): 2:28pm On Dec 23, 2013
To my knowledge , Kumuyi was invited to Akwa Ibom Christmas night once and he attended. I wonder what happened between then and now
Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by crystalballs: 2:29pm On Dec 23, 2013
Oletty: Pastor Kumiyi is right. Christmas is idolatrous, but so are most other aspects of Christianity. The purported virgin birth, divinity of Jesus Christ, his crucifixion, resurrection. These are not unique to Christianity but abound in other ancient religions around the present day Middle East. Open your eyes Africans, there is nothing historical about Christianity--it, like all other religions, is allegorical. Jesus Christ may or may not have existed but outside the Bible he is not mentioned anywhere else except in the writing of the Roman historian Flavius Josephus who refers to a Christ.

December 22 is Winter Solstice when the sun fades into the azimuth in the Northern hemisphere and 'dies for three days'. It only begins to rise on December 25th. Coincidence that December 25 was fixed as the birth date of Jesus? Of course not. Jesus Christ, like most ancient deities, is likely a personification of the sun. Twelve months in a year, twelve apostles. Sun dies for three days and rises and so does Jesus Christ. There's a lot more. Only the intelligent and wise can understand the symbolism in Christianity. It's all myth and allegory. It is not historical. Wake up Africa. The Europeans who brought the religion to you no longer believe in it literally.

correct.

Christianity is not a religion, he who have ears let him hear.

Desist from it and find the true religion.

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Coldfeet(f): 2:29pm On Dec 23, 2013
Jesus Christ still remains the reason for this season!!! Brethrens DON'T forget that this Christmas. No matter how or where you chose to celebrate yours make sure Jesus Christ will be happy to attend afterall its His bash!!! Right?

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by kinethic: 2:31pm On Dec 23, 2013
This is not about Kumiyi or not. Lets be reasonable if you are a Christian and a bible believer , a doer of word of God u would understand that Christ encouraged us remember only his death not birth. The problem is there are a lot of human and ancient traditions mixed in all these.
The only time birthday was mentioned was when Herod was having a banquet for his birthday and we knew what followed that was the beheading of John.
Also in proverb or Ecclesiastes it says that the day of death is better than the day of birth.
If we claim to love and fear God we won't get ourselves entangled in all these religious rites and celebrations because it was never mentioned in the bible.
I have seen churches celebrating Halloween . Could you believe that? So Easter ( not even when Christ was raised ) Good Friday ( not even when he was killed , Christmas, whatever celebration which is not mentioned in the bible I personally believe is men's tradition . It's contrary to Gods word .
Millions of Christians are now entangled in these that it is difficult to see that they are all wrong.
Devil is deceitful imagine all the evil that happens during Xmas period.people spending the little money they have, killing , stealing etc
It is the time for merchants to make money.
Lets reason in the light of the word of God.

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Nobody: 2:32pm On Dec 23, 2013
Youtube vid please.

Yea so many things bout the Christmas celebration suggest idolatery..think bout the red-white ish;santa clause; Christmas tree,which scripture verse instructed us to erect a statue and put stars and make it Adorable in the name of christmas??

Everyone needs to rethink,roman catholic introduced many celebrations,most many churches considered wrong and so dnt celebrate,only Christmas is generally acceptd,but general acceptance by all doesn't justify it. It seems Christmas has no spiritual relevance,even during christmas sexual immorality and oda wickdnes are rampant, hmm.
GOD HELP US

#NB.. Mind your words, you might be raining curses upon yourself.. Pastor Kumuyi is a servant of God.

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by Nobody: 2:32pm On Dec 23, 2013
One of the very few pastors whose moral voice is not drowned by the hum of a private jet.
A man like kongi. WS

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Re: Christmas Is Idolatrous And Unscriptural - Pastor Kumuyi by jmoore(m): 2:34pm On Dec 23, 2013
UceeGod: Kumuyi's message is simple, true xtians shouldn't join in Xmas celebration cos it's of pagan origin, if u must celebrate d birth of Jesus, do it anytime. A lot of people don't read b4 making comment.

"The earth is the lords and his fullness thereof." Everyday belongs to God.

That a land was used by pagans in the past doesn't stop christians from building a church on the same land.

There was a time Kumuyi said TV is satanic. They own a TV channel now.

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