Ranchhoddas: @JMAN pls give a straight answer to that quote jor.if u can't just say so.i've followed this thread to page 15 and i'm yet to get anything meaningful from you and your cohorts.i dey vex o.

JMAN05:

ok sir, you can try another person. Like I said, if I am the one asking the question, the answer is so clear for me.

Image123:

i do not understand or comprehend what you said, so it definitely cannot be what i am saying.

rudedough:

I'm the Devil agreed and Jesus is the "master of the earth" but could you please explain this part of Jesus to us. You Christians have been avoiding this post I've re-posted about 5 times now.

"Peaceful Jesus" telling his Disciples that he is not any different from his father, he's not come to bring peace but war and he has come to cause a rift between a son and his father, daughter against her mother and destroy the family union.

Matthew 10:34-36
34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn

“‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’

Can Christians please explain this passage to me cos i was made to believe that Jesus came to give us life, peace, love, unity and eternal life.

OlaoChi:

that's because your previous post was a silly statement
You should really stop playing that card it doesn't tell well

Image123:

Can you reasonably attempt to prove how silly the statement was?

OlaoChi:

It's above silly to say someone can't understand something because he doesn't believe it
That's like saying You can't understand Star Wars because you don't believe it

Btw the dude was a believer, so stop accusing him of not believing

Image123:

Oh no, you are not the devil, don't overrate yourself. You are a slave to the devil and i doubt if you even know it. It's that bad. Confirm that you have seen the great lack of thinking you exhibited concerning the colt passage, promise never to repeat such again. Then we'd move on to the next point.

JMAN05: If this clear explanation does not satisfy you, I am sorry you have to ask another person. If I am the one asking similar question, this answer is sufficient to clear the misunderstanding.

OlaoChi:

The Bible cannot be held as prove for the existence of your God, the Bible can easily be accused of being made up and full of lies to suit the needs of some people.

Wat makes your Bible more reliable than the Yoruba Ifa? Ifa also gives prophecies and reveals mysteries
Ifa seems far more reliable and magnificent than the Bible that is based on ridiculous racist movements and political agenda

Image123:

i said one needs to be CONVERTED to better understand. You cannot compare a dog's understanding of human language to a human's understanding. The dog will need to be converted to a human being to really flow. That's what the Bible itself says. The natural man does not readily understand. That's why you need a conversion, or to at least listen to those who are converted.

truthislight:

Hehehehe.

Dude, you remind me of one Mr Macof.

And you are following only @Pegan9ja.

Why is your profile reading 'f' ?

truthislight: @RudeDough

There are so many questions of mine you have not answered.

Answere the one on red below please.

see it here:

When this slaves had became populous and many in numbers, he took them under this state/condition devoid of tradition of men to the promised land, and on the way, gave them all the 613 laws and.

Do you think those slaves had the capacity to developed those laws for themselves under that conditions in the wilderness ? Laws they could not keep ?

Answer that ^ pls.

Am waiting.

truthislight: Is it NL that turned you to Atheism ?



If you are talking about Jesus, say so, dont use that to threaten people.

Jesus death was fortold that his faithfullness to the end will be a scrifice to God and a reason/answer to satan, that will make God consider his effort and reconsider what our parent did under the taotulage of satan.

The action of Jesus life and his shade blood open up the way to Yahweh to all men.

Jesus faithfulness gives an answer to all of Satan's accusations against Yahweh, that humans will not love Yahwah without selfish gains expecially if their lives was at stake.(read the book of Job and see what satan told Yahweh).

Sacrifice goes as a ransom, what is used to buy back or change a situation without twisting or banding Justice > Yahweh is a God of justice and his justice dictactes his actions with intelligent creatures.

Blood for blood, life for life, what Adam lost was a perfect life and what exchanged to change the sentens of death on Adam's children was equivalent to what was lost by Adam. No injustice with Yahweh, and not when he had the power to restore any life. But his justice must hold and sets a precedent that should never be repeated by disobedience.

Even, on a situation that Yahweh was angry due to the actions of the household of Saul, Yahweh also specify that to correct the situation, the people have to be presented to him, not just any person, but the specific people concern, all of them and not from another house hold.

Precedent sets in the bible was to averts repeating certain ills, hence, death is almost always the sentence for defiance as to keep this nation clean and ready to welcome the promise messaiah that was the reason for the Existance of the nation of Israel at the first place.

Yahweh build the nation of Israel in the bible for the sole purpose of bringing forth the messaiah, and any contrary action to that end was instant dealth to removed obstacles on the set objectives.

The bible is not a text book to explain the life history of Satan or to explain the way satan dealth with other nations that have been worshiping him in the absence/seperation from Yahweh in Eden, but rather, a book to explain the process of the reconciliation of man back to Yahweh via the Messaiah, and we know the cause of the problem in the first place.

Satan is only mentioned in passing in the bible some of the times that his action to destroy this plans for the messaiah is considered.

But Yahweh knows and says that the rest nations except the Nation of Israel worshiped satan directly and indirectly, hence, Yahweh had to warn the nation of Israel not to get involved with any other nation and share with them in their worship, so as not to give room to satan into the Nation of Israel, that he will have access to the coming Messaiahs plans taking place there.

Along that ^ line, Yahweh had to build the nation of Israel devoid of the traditions of other nations, he sent the nation of Israel to grow in the land of Egypt, in a condition they cannot assimillate the traditions of Egypt > 'slavery'.
And the traditions of other nations that was influence by the anemy of Yahweh.

When this slaves had became populous and many in numbers, he took them under this state/condition devoid of tradition of men to the promised land, and on the way, gave them all the 613 laws and.

Do you think those slaves had the capacity to developed those laws for themselves under that conditions in the wilderness ? Laws they could not keep ? Your answer pls.

This ^ arrangement by Yahweh ensured that the sons of Israel was a unique nation, absolutely different from every other nation dwelling upon the sufface of the earth, hence, any contermination was cutoff.

Meanwhile, all other nations under the influence of satan hated them, that explains why the Nation of Amalekite will attacked the innocent harmless slaves from Egypt on their way to the promised land, by the dictate of their God(unless the Amalekites had no god, but Egypt does).

It was Yahweh that has the ability to directly see and know the plans of satan and the effort he puts in to thwart the coming of the Messaiah, who he satan knew will destroy him at the end.

I think i am not in the best position to asses Yahweh and pass sentens on him owing to my limitations, since there are more than meets the eyes.

But since you say you know better, i beckon on you to come foward and educate me.

Thank you.

OlaoChi:

Pagan9ja is the only one following me, I simply followed back

F? Asin female?

truthislight: @RudeDough

You seem to be skipping comment.

This is the third time i am posting this.

Answere the question on red below please.



see it here:

When this slaves had became populous and many in numbers, he took them under this state/condition devoid of tradition of men to the promised land, and on the way, gave them all the 613 laws and.

Do you think those slaves had the capacity to developed those laws for themselves under that conditions in the wilderness ? Laws they could not keep ?

Answer that ^ pls.

Am waiting

rudedough:

[b] You have very little or no knowledge of your bible.

* Those slaves you called God's people attacked an innocent nation, killed everyone including women and children and stole their lands and properties, they looted the nation and took the virgins to be ra.ped. You Christians keep claiming God gave the israelites lands without looking at how they got the land. Do you guys think Canaan was just sitting somewhere in the wild?

Deuteronomy 2:33-34
"And the Lord our God delivered him over to us; and we defeated him with his sons and all his people. 34 So we captured all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, women and children of every city. We left no survivor."

* On their way to Canaan God in his blood thirst also killed a lot of the Israelites that would have been alive should they have remained in Egypt for complaining about food and water and all other stu.pid reasons including Moses.

Then later, hour gave them some 613 laws to kill children for disobedience and ra.pe little girls without problem etc.

Bro if that's the way God gives people land flown with milk and honey. I don't want to be a part of it.

Ask your Pastor to stop preaching "God gave the Israelites a land flown with milk and honey" and Preach to the congregation that "God instructed them to kill everyone inside including men, women and children and ra.pe their virgins while they loot the nation. After which they took over the land and called it milk and honey.

You Christians are sick in the head I swear. Go tell those cheap lies to someone who haven't read the Bible Bro. [/b]

truthislight: @RudeDough

You seem to be skipping comment.

This is the third time i am posting this.

Answere the question on red below please.



see it here:

When this slaves had became populous and many in numbers, he took them under this state/condition devoid of tradition of men to the promised land, and on the way, gave them all the 613 laws and.

Do you think those slaves had the capacity to developed those laws for themselves under that conditions in the wilderness ? Laws they could not keep ?

Answer that ^ pls.

Am waiting

rudedough:

[b] You have very little or no knowledge of your bible.

* Those slaves you called God's people attacked an innocent nation, killed everyone including women and children and stole their lands and properties, they looted the nation and took the virgins to be ra.ped. You Christians keep claiming God gave the Israelites lands without looking at how they got the land. Do you guys think Canaan was just sitting somewhere in the wild?

Deuteronomy 2:33-34
"And the Lord our God delivered him over to us; and we defeated him with his sons and all his people. 34 So we captured all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, women and children of every city. We left no survivor."

* On their way to Canaan God in his blood thirst also killed a lot of the Israelites that would have been alive should they have remain in Egypt. But God killed them for complaining about food and water and all other stu.pid reasons, he even killed his loving servant Moses.

Then later, he gave them some 613 laws to kill children for disobedience and ra.pe little girls without problem etc.

Bro if that's the way God gives people land flown with milk and honey. I don't want to be a part of it.

Ask your Pastor to stop preaching "God gave the Israelites a land flown with milk and honey" and Preach to the congregation that "God instructed them to kill everyone inside including men, women and children and ra.pe their virgins while they loot the nation. After which they took over the land and called it a land flowing with milk and honey."

You Christians are sick in the head I swear. Go tell those cheap lies to someone who haven't read the Bible Bro. [/b]

So you don't know that God killed the Israelites for asking for food and water. Read your bible bro. I'm an Atheist, I don't have to show you everything about your bible like a 10 years old Child.

rudedough:

Shut up Bro and explain the passage. You like beating around the bush like you've been doing on the topic of tithing.

Just explain the passage you quoted or shut the hell up. We don't have time or server space to play around a topic as sensitive as that.

OlaoChi:
Ok keep deceiving yourself with this excuse, it's so pathetic

rudedough: @Truthislight I don't know why you like going back and forth, you asked about the law and I have answered that in the highlighted blue below.

You also mentioned the promise land and I have told you how the Israelites got their "Promise land" which you have completely ignored.

Tell me that you know before now that the promise land was actually stolen from an innocent nation that was invaded and slaughtered. #TheHiddenThingsYourPastorsWontTellYou

Do you have anything to say about your God killing innocent people to steal their lands and properties and ra.ping their virgins Sir?[/

So you don't know that God killed the Israelites for asking for food and water. Read your bible bro. I'm an Atheist, I don't have to show you everything about your bible like a 10 years old Child.

Image123:

What passage did i quote? It seems an evil spirit is disturbing you ba?

rudedough:

I'm the Devil agreed and Jesus is the "master of the earth" but could you please explain this part of Jesus to us. You Christians have been avoiding this post I've re-posted about 5 times now.

"Peaceful Jesus" telling his Disciples that he is not any different from his father, he's not come to bring peace but war and he has come to cause a rift between a son and his father, daughter against her mother and destroy the family union.

Matthew 10:34-36
34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn

“‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’

Can Christians please explain this passage to me cos i was made to believe that Jesus came to give us life, peace, love, unity and eternal life.

truthislight:

The land that God gave to the Israelites is the land that Yahweh asked Abraham to leave earlier, Yahweh told him that he will give that land that he left to hii future generations/children and he fulfild it to the sons of Jacob > sons of Isaac > the Israelites.

Yahweh did not killed the Jews for asking him for food, the other reasons they died for was murmuring against moses and Idol worship and disobedience.

Is there anthing you can teach me from the bible ? Hehehehe,

that will be interesting, but then, you have nothing to teach me.

You have a lot of erroneous ideas about Yahweh, thats all!.

Peace to you though.

rudedough:

Bro honestly you will make a bad lecturer. Just explain the damn verse and stop reading me verse 10 and 38 all those are irrelevant.

Just explain a short text where Jesus talked about him not coming to bring peace like you Christians claim.

rudedough: I don't like it when Christians look at a thread with some healthy questions and run away in an attempt to sweep the question under the carpet.

Christians these questions are not going to answer itself or magically disappear, just give me a YES / NO answer to the questions so that i can present my facts. That's not too much to ask is it?

JMAN05:

By your insisting to follow Jesus' direction, and viewing his direction as more important than your family's, their are sure to be division in terms of opinions, likes and dislikes, fashion, entertainment etc. Why the division? Because of your belief in Jesus. That's the point. That is what Jesus meant when he said he came to cause division between father, daughter etc. Just the belief in Jesus causes all that, division, lack of peace cos the christian can't stomach all the relatives believes as against his belief in Jesus. it is in that sense that he came to bring war, not peace. It does not mean that he encourages you to create war, but the belief in him, will lead to your being persecuted and lead to division in terms of opinion, belief, fashion etc. After all when Peter wants to get even with the soldiers, Jesus reproved him.

If this is not enough, please look for another person. the fact is that your not accepting it changes nothing. The truth remains.

JMAN05:

I think it's time you ask yourself: Am I really telling myself the truth or do I stay blind when the truth is glaring? I see you really have problem in that. Always following the blind Lawrence Krauss who sees truth and chose to lie to himself to win argument. I really loathe that Idiot. He isn't sincere at all. Dawkins is far better than him.

Truthislight: The land that God gave to the Israelites is the land that Yahweh asked Abraham to leave earlier, Yahweh told him that he will give that land that he left to hii future generations/children and he fulfild it to the sons of Jacob > sons of Isaac > the Israelites.

Yahweh did not killed the Jews for asking him for food, the other reasons they died for was murmuring against moses and Idol worship and disobedience.

rudedough: Was Canaan, the land "flowing with milk and hor'ny" a vacant land?

Did the Israelites kill everyone in the land, loot the nation and ra.pe their virgins before taking over the land "flown with milk and hor'ny"?

Did God kill the Israelites for complaining about food and water?

rudedough:

[b][size=10pt]Your ignorance is second to none and the most annoying thing about it is that you insist that you are right but when you are shown proof, you start giving apologetic excuses.

Now i want to put you and other Christians to shame again. So i will ask some questions so you guys don't deny or twist like you always do.

Did God kill the Israelites for complaining about food and water?